The new lady = Mumu Naomi = Mumu + Ode. Nice one Toun and Nedu Lovely coordination Husband material

Please remember and consider the fact that the whole issue of fraud doesn't only affect the adults. Sometimes kids end up marrying siblings. These things cause psychological and emotional trauma. They grow up planning to migrate to be with their dads and paternity tests required by the embassy shatter the child's world. The hands that rock the cradle rule the world. One doesn't justify the next. If there is doubt, test it out. Love ya'll. Good to hear Naomi change her mind in the end. Nice one sis.

Nedu and Husband Material spoke well. Unless Noami is acting out a script, she's a disaster waiting to happen. ❤️💡

One thing I’ll point out here that they should be careful with - one of them mentioned a woman should leave a man because he’s “shooting blanks” and that not making him “man enough”. That’s very toxic. We don’t want to call women that can’t get pregnant “not woman enough” and suggest men leave them. That girl needs to learn accountability

I've watched every single episode of this show and I can't recall a time that Naomi spoke sensibly, lmfao

There's no basis for justifying paternity fraud. It is psychologically devastating especially to the man . Toun actually takes time to analyse the matter at hand and she is very objective rather than taking sides , and avoiding the facts.

Understandably a very emotional topic for Nedu. Stay strong fam.

Paternity fraud can never be justifiable...it's just extremely wrong on so many levels.

Deceit is harmful to anyone. You will be questioning your whole existence when you find out your spouse has been hiding anything; it hurts. Trust is important in any relationship. Protect yourself both men and women.

We might as well justify yahoo and embezzlement with poverty

Toun is so calm and only smile when Naomi is talking nonsense, Toun is the best 🌷

Lmaoooo. It’s justifiable until it hits home, and it’s their brother or close friend and family member that becomes a victim of paternity fraud.🥴🥴

They are not even considering the angle that the child can find out one day and suddenly realise that an important part of his/her life has been a lie. This is where and when the thin line btw love and hate happens.

Husband material always makes the most sense. People always listen to Husband material 👏🏾

Kira and Naomi are justifying stupidity, It's like saying I killed him because he offended me

There's a point that everyone seemed to skip is that the case of paternity fraud and the man having a family outside, its still the man that pays for it in both cases.

The more I watch this show, the more this thought is reinforced "Toun is the only girl here that has sense." 😭 I'm not tryna shade Naomi or the other lady but...😭😭😭 I'm trying to understand their thought process but it's tough to align my moral bearing with their words and actions.

Thinking about this and conversations about Prenup comes to mind. Ladies say Prenup conversation is disrespectful. DNA conversation is disrespectful. Marriage itself is a contract. A lot of T&C's needs to be addressed.. People have used "Love" to blurr so much common sense. Let's love with our hearts and figure things out with our brains. People should get married to individuals that think and see life from the same point of view. It's simple. There is no excuse for paternity fraud. No excuse to stay in a toxic relationship where cheating is the norm.

These ladies are clearly unreasonable (except Toun). The only people that contributed positively to the topic in my opinion were the men and of course Toun.

Naomi, Kiera🤐...if they have men in their lives, I'll advice them to run for their lives. As much as cheating is Not good, paternity fraud is wickedness to both the man and the child!

LMAO!! Naomi 🤣🤣 The internet never forgets. Na you get your mouth sha.

The lack of accountability from the women here is frightening “women cheat because of what their men do”? Haha damn women are such angels.

I know we as men joke that accountability is women's kryptonite, and rather die than hold themselves accountable for their own poor decisions that affect then and other people negatively, but this is just ridiculous. How can you respond to paternity fraud with.. "get over it" "your life isn't over cuz u are taking care of a kid that isn't yours"... Imagine if a woman gets raped and a man says "get over it your life inst over cuz someone forcefully had sex with you". These women disgust me

This just shows accountability is like kryptonite to women.

Keira and Naomi gave bases that are unrelated to the topic. Keira's first example depicted fraud for real but it's not needed in this discussion. It's another topic entirely. Naomi mentioned error - It's different, sis. It's not paternity fraud. I could go on and on. Husband Material, Nedu, and Toun did well.

I hope the way Naomi and Keira thinks is not the same way women in Nigeria thinks.. Cah I’m shocked 😮

Listening to single ladies like Keira n Naomi argue publicly about this topic, make me realize why marrying most of these so called celebrities, media influencers never works. No shame of any kind.. It's a pity for this our generation. God help us

WOW, i love this podcast this is the best podcast in the world

I really hope that Naomi is just playing devils advocate...Coz if this is the way she's wired, mhen she needs a rehab for real

I think DNA tests should be a normal routine in hospitals. To save victims the stress I’m the next 20years. Because if DNA test was a normal procedure in hospitals, nobody will have a cause to disagree with it or say it’s disrespectful. So to save fathers that might fall victim of Paternity fraud the stress, let’s all do a test as a normal procedure. Just to be sure that both parents are parents of the child. SELAH!

The is one of the most real conversation of my life

When Nedu said, "Kedu onye bu ifa?"🤣🤣🤣. I don see something wey pass Nedu mouth 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Thank God for women like Toun!

Abeg what is Keira saying!!..she disappoint me with that her 1st statement!..abeg she is not making sense!!!. NAOMI KEEP QUIET!!

The intro too sweet 😂😂😂 Naomi and d ABA. Women😂😂😂😂😂

See as i dey wait, last episode was a blast though i have a few points, the episode with the topic what do you bring to the table, i feel like every opportunity Nedu has to pick on Naomie he takes it to the extreme, and Toun you're a very talented woman, I've in past podcast heard you speak, it's good to listen but it's your own show please try dey talk small na plus i love your voice, husband material omo eh your blood dey hot ooo, at a point it looks like you're deviating from the topic the beauty about it is you always fall back in place, apart from that its a very beautiful podcast... I love you all from the producers to the podcasters... Una Sabi

Hahahahaha! I have been laughing since the beginning of this show. Well well, according to a lawyer… in Igbo customary law, if a man’s wife goes and gets pregnant for a different man (while married), that child belongs to her husband even though he isn’t the biological father. And this goes the same for the wife when she finds out he impregnates a different woman. The truth is paternity fraud is wrong. No justification to it. It breaks heart and families. However, let’s remember that kids are involved… even if you must get a divorce, would you abandon a child who already calls you father? I won’t blame any man that does though cos I have no idea how I will feel if it were me.

Lol when Kiera first spoke I love how shocked Nedu was 😅… interesting topic.. on a more serious note IT IS WRONG to cheat at all

Yedu I like your sense of understanding keep ot up

Big ups to Toun. She's a woman with sense. She has more than common sense abeg. We need more women like Toun in this world. I don't agree with all her stands in every episode but she's just the only woman with sense on this show.

Naomi: what were you doing when your wife went to sleep with another person Also said:women cheat because of what their men do What's funny about this is when a man cheats is the man's fault, when a woman also cheats is the man fault This new mentality some women have these days is just crazy when a man cheats it's the man's fault and when a woman cheats it's the woman's fault 💯 don't justify your wrongs with crazy ideology The lack of accountability naomi has is on real. I also see this a lot with some women these days She also said: when the woman mistakenly cheats 😂😂 so na only man dey do things with clear eye Shout out to husband material and nedu 💫

To be honest with ourselves when a woman gets pregnant there is no way she won’t remember all the people she had sex with which could have resulted to that pregnancy be it her husband or if she is cheating . So her not wanting to think about it or calculating when the last sex occurred is her own decision to either defraud her partner or have faith that the child is for her partner (lol)... Most times these women actually know that the child isn’t for their partner so Naomi and Keira please stop talking blindly.....

I love this podcast like mad😂😂😂😂

I love husband material & nedu's energy soo much..

I feel like woman sometimes should at least allow the men to decide on raising the kids by been transparent about their origins. Hiding a kid under a man's roof that isn't his is borderline WRONG PERIOD.

Let’s put ourselves in these men shoes , I as a man wouldn’t find it funny raising another’s man child. Transparency should be the core in any marriage, if the child is not his , she should be woman enough to tell the man the truth likewise the men.

That Husband material's analogy (Cyber crime & Robbery)... thats a clever argument!

This Naomi confuse pass that bird for Moana

Omo fraud na fraud There's literally no scenario where paternity fraud can be justified Which one is get over it Like say arsenal lose match Make i get over say my child is not my child

As a woman, if you have the balls to cheat you should also have the boss tell him she's pregnant for someone else

I agree with toun 💯 percent agree from the beginning.

Well well, late to the party I am but 3 points; 1. That "cheat your own back” thing no dey ever work. Two wrongs never did make a right. 2. This thing fit pain. Imagine building on a land that you thought was yours only to discover that it wasn'ti yours from the start. 3. I sabi say e dey hard but let's learn to be accountable to persons with whom we have committed relationships with. Whatever happens afterwards happens.

Naomi intentionally chooses to be annoying 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I enjoy this show becose of nedu. I love he way he speaks with so much calmness, Insight and understanding of things. He can be very funny at times lol.

Oga o, this woman totally underplayed this thing biko

What is bad is bad, it shouldn't even be justified or compared. If anyone cheats on their partner its bad, no excuse should be made.

The freaking confidence that Naomi and Kiera have to justify a crime. Then drag gender bias into the mix. A shame.

Naomi always intentionally saying rubbish is just a form of act 😂😂😂

This topic is sensitive and emotional..I wont come here and form an opinion like i have fathered a child..I totally feel for any man who have gone through this trauma...I pray he heals and love the children as his own..For the kids, they suffer the most especially when they have grown up to find out that their whole life was a scam...Lastly shoutout to the men who know they have sexual problems, know their wives cheated to save their marriage and dont judge her for a day...It takes emotional maturity and unconditional love for a man to face this issues even if it bruises his ego...Shoutout for kiera, she was a breathe of fresh air...Hope to see her more in the show..

Naomi is a Mumu 💀💀 you can’t make this shit up 😂😂

Kiera is the definition of fine girl no sense

With all the justifications for paternity fraud, all I can say is......... It is finished. SMH

Nedu na man u be 💪this ladies have to stop being emotion for this conversation to move forward

Sleep been full my eye when I start to watch this episode, but the moment your guest open mouth my brain load. WTF did she just say.😢😮

Having seen recent episodes, it's amazing how much conscious effort Husband Material has put into calming down. He communicates much more calmly and effectively these days 👏

Husband material is one of the toughest debater here... Very reasonable!

If paternity fraud is a crime, then it should be a crime for a married man to have kids out of wedlock . It should also be a crime for a spouse to infect his/her spouse with an sti

I'm totally in shock as to what Naomi and keira is saying though. Cheating is a related topic but totally different from paternity fraud!. It's the same way you would be shocked to know your husband has other kids outside. Then again, that's the spice to the show.

11:30 Husband material your are right. Keria distracting from the topic at hand is called deflection. Women do it a lot when the discussion is going against them.

Kiera’s opinion on this issue is so terrible 🤮

God abeg I use God beg you what ever I do or any sin abeg forgive rather than giving me a daughter that thinks like this Naomi what kind of human being is this and the fact Many people have this mindset is worrisome she is just thinking about like buhari and that is why Nigeria is going like it is

i love u noami...following u already

I hope Kiara finds out her dad is not her real dad 😏

Everybody keeps talking about how the women or men feel. The big question actually is...HOW DO YOU EXPECT THE CHILD TO FEEL? Especially when they are old enough to know what is right from wrong. We can do better.

Husband be calming down for d ladies, allow then to speak n complete their sentence. Very Sensitive topic,No man should be put Tru such Trauma . It's an unforgivable thing to do to any Man

E be like I suppose dey this podcast,let me fly to Lagos asap...

I beg please screen people before bringing them on the show... When one finds it hard to call out a bad behavior and is bent on trivializing it for justification, you know the person lacks empathy, morals and is most likely conditioned by trauma or the media in a negative way.

The lady on dread and the one on white is saying rubbish. Lol they’re forming “women supporting women”😏The woman isn’t forced to accept the children and she doesn’t invest financially emotionally and all on the children so how is that equal to paternity fraud. Abeg use your head. If you have a son and his wife does that, buy d wife a gift and congratulate her nonsense . Dumb talk.

Omooo....these ladies are bursting my head cos wtf.

A man that’s unable to get a woman pregnant, and went ahead with the wedding without telling the woman is a big time FRAUD

No matter what the excuses are paternity fraud is paternity fraud . Take it or leave it

I really hope Naomi's and Keira's responses are scripted. Because if these are their real life opinions, it's just sad

Keira came from an angle where she did not give the man the right to decide what he wants to live with

Nedu wan enter ground listening to that kira babe....🤣🤣🤣🤣

Comparing paternity fraud to having children outside is absurd Cause having your children and finding out that your husband has other children and you decide to leave him no problem But having to find out that the children isn’t yours and you are to leave that marriage you are going with nothing So they are totally different my dear

I think FG should make this DNA stuff compulsory so that no one feels disrespected

the truth really be madder than fiction

This Keira na nyash.

Big shout out to husband material, Toun and Nedu❤️

See for me there is no reason or excuse why any woman should give some else child to another person, very very very wrong There is no comparison to what men do, the emotional damage that this situation cause to men is alarming, as parents when we work for our children in our youth we expect our children to look after us in old age if e no be your own e no fit be your own

Yes you guys are right paternity fraud is not nice at all but don’t forget to do maternity text too because it might just be a case of baby swipe.

If na me marry Noami nothing wey no go allow me do DNA 😅🤣🤣.. God Abeg oo

Naomi and Keira are the true definition of supporting women's rights and wrongs😹😹

Nedu can relate to this so well. IYKYK

When you say get over it you dont know anything about what it feel like to be a farther or dad 👨🏽 and that means the feeling of the man dont count

Kiera de sc.atter my head 🤕 Nedu no fit believe wetin him de hear from these women. If na these kind women remain make God just blow trumpet make we de go. Me wen de watch de ves 😢 In conclusion lets all return to the ways God had set for us to follow and we'll all be fine.

I'm quite curious, is Naomi saying all these just to balance the conversation or this is how she really thinks?

Small away match😂😂😂

i think say the keira get sense oo after the praise not knowing say na jst upgraded ode lol

Hmmmm, what abt the situation whereby the child was exchanged at the hospital by the nurse nko?cus, I was exchanged at the hospital in ibadan 1993, my mum died immediately she gave birth to me. So 2020, we did a dna test whereby my so called father is not my father. My Dad went ahead and did dna test for my elders and all was positive. So my dad went back to the hospital, requested for the hospital record as at 1993, so later we found out that My so called mother gave birth to male child not (me)famale. Since 2020 till now, i'm homeless and no parents. Who's to be blame? Is my case a paternity fraud???