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Ahhh yes Fighter, the one class where the sheer amount of 10 pages of feats allows you to bonk people...creatively.

Fighter: "Say the line, GM!" GM: "The enemy stands up from prone."

One pro you kind of forgot to list is that for several of those builds, you don't need a lot of feats (plus the 2 flexible feats per day of the fighter help even more) so it makes them prime for archetype

Ok, now that the *easy* class to build is out of the way, i have a challenge for you, Nonat: make a cleric build video, specially warpriest... or maybe a bard video. XD

One of my favorite Fighter feats is Dual-Handed Assault, which encourages you to fence with a Bastard Sword or Dwarven Waraxe.

0:10 Yay! Doing one of these things! We get another Desk-Build-Video!

Love this video. The level of thought and strategy you express in this one is a great direction for the channel imo

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Thrown Weapons Fighter is my favorite. It's great that they throroughly thought of that niche. It's very hard to decide which class to play, since rogues, swashbucklers, barbarians and fighters have great thrown weapons feats! LOVE IT!

Got a buddy who is about to run a PF2e game and it will be my first. Watching bunches of your videos to learn everything I can and to help get character ideas brewing. Thanks for the content!

I have to say, I'm really glad I found your channel. Thank you for all the content you make.

I feel like many of the Bully feats you covered are in fact tied to either the Fencer or the Big Weapon builds with their requirements, since many require having a hand free or wielding a two handed weapon. The fun thing with PF2 is that even these general builds you described aren't even that rigid, and you can very easily combine stuff to have some kind of Archer / Fencer, a Two-Hander/ Bully, or a Two-weapon/Sword and Board (using a shield boss and a short sword for instance).

Is it just me, or are Nonat1s' canines pretty big? I think he might be a vampire...

Thank you for all the information that you provide to us!!

A bit late here but I love this format of video because it helps me learn about the general build layouts of each class at a glance.

I run a warhammer and shield warden. She's essentially a bully as she crits, she knocks prone, they stand? She AoOs Crits again, and keeps them on thier butt. She has 2 AoOs a turn so she can end up wasting a creatures whole turn, or forcing them to fight on the ground.

Another con for sword and board is your shield's durability. I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be, but it does feel like having trained crafting and the quick repair feat is almost required if you wanna make use of shield block!

The only thing I don't like about the video is that it took you almost 4 minutes to get into the actual topic of the video. Keep going, love your content and dedication to the system. Don't let any furniture stop you in your way.

Thank you so much for making these videos.

Love the video can't wait for the other class videos.

Hey Nonat! Awesome vid. Just to point out that double slice is an awesome feat for shield and board builds. Almost mandatory!

Great timing. I’m helping my friend make his first character. He’s making Wade Wilson Deadpool. So this is very helpful

Will be making my first fighter, A dual weilder automaton when guns & gears comes out, Your feat recommendations are very useful so cheers man & wish me luck!

Btw this kind of videos is among the best content I’ve seen in your channel.

This is awesome cant wait to watch even tho I don't play fighters

Thanks for your video series on pathfinder! Some friends and I are finally taking the plunge after getting fed up with d&d. Though we haven’t started yet officially, in finalizing a cavern elf fighter at level 3, picking up the wizard archetype at level 2 to blend together with a fencer-style fighter for added defense while keeping a hand free for casting opportunities. A bit late to the party, but wanted to show my appreciation beyond the like and subscribe.

The first part of the video with the KZfaq logo freaked out my cat. Good Job!

I'll admit it: it's hard to not make a great weapon fighter. But oh well, I also like Giant Instinct Barbarians so maybe there's a bias somewhere. Do Alchemists next Nonat, I dare you!

No one forget that you can Double Slice with a shield bash or shield spikes!!

love the content

One thing you forgot unless it was not out at the time was that power attack is needed for a later feat at level 6 that makes it only take one attack instead of two

very informative thank you

I have a 7th level well-spring gnome with the glass shield Cantrip and duelist dedication….he attacks at reach with a gnome Flickmace and uses the knockdown feat to trip opponents….defensively he uses glass shield until it’s broken, then switches to dueling parry. This is in addition to his “unexpected shift” gnome ancestry feat, which grants a 25% chance to enjoy DR 7, which will go up to a 50% chance for DR 9 at 9th level. He’s also specialized in mobility with quick jump and wall jump and Rapid Mantel. Hard to catch, hard to hit, and does nice damage from reach with a penchant for tripping. Baddies often have to use an action to get up (Attack of Opportunity), move to attack and then hope the one attack hits. Even if it does it’s likely to be at least partially resisted, especially early in fights. Love the PF2 fighters!

Note for Sword and Board. Dual weapon warrior is actually a pretty useful little archetype to take. Shield bosses are weapons after all!

Hahahahaha, loved the intro, you have my like good sir, well earned !

O'no not the algorithm. Love the video keep'em coming

When you're doing these, could you just mention which archetypes you thing pare best with what you're talking about (esp Monk and Rogue).

Thanks for the video(feeding the algorithm)

Falling in love with P2 more and more.

If you use overwhelming blow, do you increase multiple attack penalty before of after the hit?

One of my current characters is a Hobgoblin Fighter, and I'm planning to go with a combination of Sword & Board and Bully, focusing mostly on tripping with my flail and demoralizing things. I'll also be going into the Marshal archetype for some of those Intimidate-related feats. Overall I'm aiming for a front line battlefield controller, with a mix of feats to give me options for mitigating damage/enemy opportunity in different situations. Also, I thought Fighters were OP, but that Algorithm is SUPER OP.

this video right here got me to subscribe, ring the bell, like and comment, thank you so much, your videos are hilarious

Missed the single most coolest fighter build! The two-hand free-hand fighter. It is honestly just a high ceiling blend of your categorized fencer, bully, dual weapon, great weapon categories that can do all of them at once or switch between them with a single interact action. Typically the build involves a two-hand trait weapon (generally a bastard sword or Hooked hammer if you wanna be super optimal hahaha) and a gauntlet/free-hand weapon. This build allows you to play around with some incredible versatility enjoying the benefits from dual handed assault's massive damage bonus (attacking with the die of a two handed weapon while keeping a free hand plus bonus damage) using dual slice with a gauntlet for high consistent damage and potential crippling crit fishing effects (hooked hammer and gauntlet assailing you at the same time with full fighter accuracy is bound to score nasty crit specialization effects), last but not least, doing all of this while keeping a free hand to grapple, trip and shove to your hearts content with the athletic's skill and assist with any potions or doors that need opening/closing! All in all, a very advanced build for players who have mastered every aspect of the fighter and simply want to adapt on the fly to any situation the battlefield demands.

The first 4 minutes were hard. Many people will leave until the content really starts. Good video tough.

Would love to see a Cleric build for a Master Healer. I've made one myself for my Kobold and would really appreciate to compare them.

About Sword & Shield: wouldn't a buckler allow for the use of a healing potion?

Love it

A bully build with a dip into the Marshal Dedication feels like it could be fun.

Hey idk if its already been done or suggested, but have you thought about a video that rates or goes over pros and cons for different weapons? Idk about anybody else, but I find myself falling back on the same weapon (bastard sword, because that versatility is too good) with way too many of my characters and would love to hear somebody talk about the pros of other options. Also, great video! Looking forward to the other classes

I started building a fighter recently (group playing Ages of Ashes, originally playing a dragon instinct Barbarian but she killed the dragon she hated so she “lost” her rage/rage powers) at level 15. I was the main damage dealer, but now I’m kinda trading elemental fixed damage for more dice (which is kinda nice cause everything was resistant/immune to fire). The build I am going for is bully/Great Weapon fighter hybrid. Intimidation class and skill feats, furious focus (which gives flat footed on AoO which is helpful for my ranger), knock down, power attack and the like. What I feel like you should have mentioned is that Combat Flexibility and Improved Flexibility Class Features are a thing. That at level 9, you can take a level 8 or lower fighter feat, and at 15 you can take a 14 or lower fighter feat (including ones with a prerequisite feat that combat flexibility filled). With these, you can take the class feats integral to your build identity and then take an extra two to diversify your options. (If you said this and I missed it tho, I’m sorry. Love your content as always and thanks for introducing Deadly D8! The channel seems fun and I expect a ton outta of them!)

Grabbing a "Bully" feat or two sounds like fun on a polearm based fighter. Knockdown/Trip into brutish shove means that anyone who doesn't have reach is going to eat an Attack of Opportunity from you pretty much no matter what. AND you still have a respectable d10 damage die if you just want to kill something and make it dead.

In the Extinction Curse campaign my brother is playing a staff acrobat fighter (no free archetype though) and hes loving tripping everything with his scythe and getting free AoO against them when they stand.

Looking forward to the Wizard one.

Do any of the archetypes help the thrown weapon idea?

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I play a "Bully" fighter with Marshall dedication & a Polearm... it's actually pretty awesome.

I'm currently playing around with the idea for two characters. One is a goblin fighter/ranger with a longspear and heavy armor, going heavily into power attack, that wants to becoma a hellknight... don't ask me why or how, I just find the idea amusing. The other is a two-weapon fighter with the dual weapon warrior archetype that goes heavily into a hand-crossbow (later maybe firearm) and a one handed agile weapon.

Would throwing a weapon pull you out of point blank stance, since you wouldn't be weilding a ranged weapon after its leaves your hand?

So this is CRB only? No APG?

What do you guys think about unnarmed fighters? Like with the martial artist archetype

With a Bully Fighter you really want something like Meteor Hammer. Reach Trip is a great way to screw up an enemy's action economy. Trip 'em from 10' then safely swing at them while they're flat footed. Then on their turn they have to stand up triggering AoO (which might put them back on the ground if you crit), move to you if they don't have reach, and then with their third action they can attack if you didn't crit them with the AoO.

You're a bit wrong on the great weapon build, you can remove a hand for free thus you can drink your potion for example with no additional actions, but you need to spend an action to put your hand back on the weapon

Objection! The Thrown Weapon Fighter has a pro you didn't mention - thrown weapons add the Str bonus just like close combat attacks, meaning that a Thrown Weapon Fighter with a decent strength gets to be dangerous at all ranges; plus, it combines real good with two weapon styles - basically, anyone who thinks closing in to the weirdo tossing hatchets will cripple his combat ability is in for a VERY rude surprise.

KZfaq entity told me "algorithm" and I can't seem to stop myself from commenting, liking, and subcribing, please help, I'm under some sort of curse

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't taking your second hand off and putting your second hand on a weapon your main hand is holding a free action/not an action? GWF can't use feats that require attacking with a hand free, but they can still retrieve and drink potions and such, right?

Since my bard died, i rolled a Half-Orc Fighter! She uses the straight forward Power Attack with two handed weapon! Took the barbarian dedication feat so she has access to Rage, so she Hits So Hard in fights, and when she crits with that weapon... HOO BOY!! Its So satisfying to hit the Big Bad for 90+ damage in one hit!

So... Bully and then add Barbarian Archetypes ... yeah, that's what I'm here for

So, something I’m toying with making is a spiked gauntlet and shield bash character. I’m thinking champion, with a fighter dedication to get access to some of the feats for bully builds.

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I guess I still think in 3.x in that power attack is the best thing for a fighter. Great weapon, or two handed if I recall correctly, allowed to finish a fight quickly so that less damage can happen. Also from 3.x thinking is please never heal in combat, get through it as fast as possible as the enemy can out pace the healing quite fast. Thank you though for an awesome video.

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After the intro I was so disappointed it wasn't a video on building desk.

For the bully I suggest Assurance in athletics. If it's your third attack just ignore MAP!

I wonder how would you build Superstition barb. Wecan assume that he has Chirurgeon alchemist in pt.

This gave me the idea of a throwing weapon fighter, with the acient elf ancestry to get the rogue or washbuckler dedication to be able to take the furberrie? Feat...the one where u can take a deck of cards ss ur weapon

haha! the KZfaq skit peering through the door XD

Umm... what happened to the Inventor Feats video?

probably playing 2e for the first time soon. I like the idea of taking a bastard sword to swap between 1h and 2h grips depending on how the fight is going. Is that a solid way to play?

Okay, I'll like and subscribe. Just this once, because I'm afraid that that thing will eat my soul if I don't

Can you please go over the grimstalker in pathfinder 2e?

I wish thrown build got more love

the crooked door is driving me nuts

i am not sure this is how the commenting bit works but i am gonna do it anyway

I've been tossing around playing a fighter next time I get to play. But, I'm torn between a straight up fighter and a Druid Fighter. We usually do Dual Class PCs because we have a small table, so I get to have 2 full classes most of the time. I see a lot of interesting combinations being a Bully Crocagator Lizardfolk, which could just be fun. Alternatively, I feel like nobody ever uses the Flail class of weapons, so using one of those and doing a Sword and Shield/Bully could be great too. Not sure what I'd do alongside that, but if I wanted to be a master at blocking things, I could see Champion or perhaps even an Inventor with some sweet armor or a fancy weapon.

Which one of these is the best damage dealers overall?

You can't carry a great weapon in one hand? Is that in the rules? I have always allowed a character to hold it in a single hand but not attack with a single hand.

Are there other videos on this subject line but for other classes? Or did the name of the series change?

In p2e if you are wielding a 2h weapon, say a greatsword, can't you hold it in one hand to access items with you're now free hand? Similar to holding a bow?

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So what you're telling me is that the desk building one really was Inventor 2

I wasn't that interested in the Fighter until the Guns and Gears playtest. I think the Inventor makes for an interesting combos with the Fighter. My first thought for the Inventor was a Green Arrow type character who uses a bow Innovation and fighter bow feats. Later I though it would be cool to try and mix the dual weapon fighter with a fencer fighter and baseline only gauntlets allow for that, but weapon innovation Inventors can get Integrated Gauntlet at level 9 which opens up some silly combinations (especial when combined with all the other modifications).

Sword and shield is also duel weapon as well.

Perhaps you should do a dance video, or a drum solo. You know, to feed the algorythm!

The great weapon fighter does great offensively but I'd like something that helps mix it up with some cool defensive stuff I was trying to make a bastard sword duelist until I figured out letting go of your weapon takes the interact action.

I’m doing a Fighter with a glaive that will archetype into barbarian (I know, how original) to take the giant instinct, and by level 6 be able to use the large weapon. It’ll end up being treated as a great weapon fighter once I have that level 6 feat to get the instinct. 1d10+STR+6 with reach and deadly with the fighter’s high accuracy just feels too good.

Wouldn't it be possible for a character to combine fencer with bully? Since they both need a free hand

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