Paul Krugman Attacks Bernie Sanders

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The Young Turks

The Young Turks

8 жыл бұрын

Paul Krugman has a new article in the New York Times called “Sanders Over The Edge.” He's been bashing Bernie for months, but now he's truly jumped the shark. Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, breaks it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below.
"Many analysts concluded years ago that the answers to both questions were no. Predatory lending was largely carried out by smaller, non-Wall Street institutions like Countrywide Financial; the crisis itself was centered not on big banks but on “shadow banks” like Lehman Brothers that weren’t necessarily that big. And the financial reform that President Obama signed in 2010 made a real effort to address these problems. It could and should be made stronger, but pounding the table about big banks misses the point.
Yet going on about big banks is pretty much all Mr. Sanders has done. On the rare occasions on which he was asked for more detail, he didn’t seem to have anything more to offer. And this absence of substance beyond the slogans seems to be true of his positions across the board.”*
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@Darkraisvictim
@Darkraisvictim 8 жыл бұрын
These attacks by Paul are so frustrating because in any other situation, I love him. He knows all about Keynesian economics and is great at pointing out the flaws in austerity. But unfortunately he's been bought and is now stuck in the Clinton machine. #Bringbackpaul
@Cettywise
@Cettywise 8 жыл бұрын
agreed
@3sm1rost84
@3sm1rost84 8 жыл бұрын
+Darkrai's Victum Exactly, I have no other explanation for his behavior. It almost seems that Bernie based his policies on Krugman's book "the conscience of a liberal". Now, if Krugman had some argumentation to attack what Robert Reich and others say, it'd be fine for me. But he just questions Bernie's morality and gives for granted that he doesn't know how to run a country.
@jojiecastro7343
@jojiecastro7343 8 жыл бұрын
I read the NY Times article, and Paul actually brings up 1 unfair point, and 1 fair one. Krugman's argument that predatory lending was not carried out by big banks, and hence implies that big banks did not do wrong in the financial crisis -- a specious argument at best. The fair point Krugman makes is that Clinton has done what every other Democrat is doing in the party in terms of raising funds, and voting in a populist way in Congress. Sander's attacks on Clinton's qualifications is indirectly an indictment of the Democratic Party as a whole, and fuels the "Bernie or bust" crowd. I don't blame Krugman for being a Democratic Party apologist -- the only rationale way to address Krugman's concerns is for Bernie Sanders to address reforming the DP -- a daunting issue considering Bernie has to do it without alienating superdelegates at this point.
@StephanieL180
@StephanieL180 8 жыл бұрын
Piketty & Stiglitz > Krugman.
@steh8831
@steh8831 8 жыл бұрын
+polymath7 well said.
@TimBradleyFromOz
@TimBradleyFromOz 8 жыл бұрын
*The Democrats have lost me.* #BernieOrBust
@avis119
@avis119 8 жыл бұрын
+Anony Mous Bernie will do better.
@IanLEAU
@IanLEAU 8 жыл бұрын
+Anony Mous No, you absolutely don't need Hillary for the Supreme Court vacancy. She'll only elect a judge that would look out for the interests of big banks in America. She's not centralised at all, she's a subliminal right winged politician. She might as well become a republican.
@katiemottram1783
@katiemottram1783 8 жыл бұрын
+Tim Bradley I wasn't and now If Hillary wins the nom I have to go green. Why is the Democratic Party asking me to vote for someone who voted for the Iraq War? Hillary is already republican in all the ways that scare me about not voting Democrat, gaslighting won't work. I am already scared of her.
@fod1202
@fod1202 8 жыл бұрын
+This Guy Did Obama vote for invading Iraq?
@IanLEAU
@IanLEAU 8 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine what America would be like if Al Gore won the democratic primary back in 2000? He is pretty much preaching the same thing Bernie Sanders is. Please America, don't make the same mistake twice. You do know if Hillary wins the Primary, there is absolutely no way she is winning the presidential campaign.
@cinephobiac
@cinephobiac 8 жыл бұрын
Another classic Cenk takedown of the Chones! Nice work.
@zachcouch8654
@zachcouch8654 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@robertvysther1138
@robertvysther1138 8 жыл бұрын
+Stuart F. Andrews Did you see the film "The Big Short"? A great film that explains everything that took place during the crash. The Big Banks were certainly involved.
@amandagirlygirl12
@amandagirlygirl12 8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Vysther but not the main problem. Obama reigned them in already.
@DonnyStanley
@DonnyStanley 8 жыл бұрын
+amandagirlygirl12 Oh he did, huh? Is that way they've begun selling CDOs under a new name (BTOs)?
@commodoor646
@commodoor646 8 жыл бұрын
I use to like Krugman. The appeal of the dark side is quite strong.
@gyorgyimre6004
@gyorgyimre6004 8 жыл бұрын
My uncle actually knows Krugman, and says this isn't the first time he has used his clout to influence public opinion despite knowing what he was putting out was untrue.
@dch3348
@dch3348 8 жыл бұрын
+György Imre Interesting. And therein lies the problem. Krugman has the reputation of being a policy wonk, and so he uses that to his advantage. In reality, he's not really a policy wonk, he's a pundit. As the the great Upton Sinclair said, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"
@seroccoprime2774
@seroccoprime2774 8 жыл бұрын
+György Imre So Krugman is a manipulative faux progressive, basically?
@Inferno361
@Inferno361 8 жыл бұрын
Paul Krugman is a sellout.
@edwardbernayse6665
@edwardbernayse6665 8 жыл бұрын
+Inferno361 i think that he has been paid by the clintons and has been promised a cabinet position if he helps hillary get elected. that's my theory that i would be willing to bet on.
@wongdor
@wongdor 8 жыл бұрын
I used to respect Krugman before all these incredibly hacky Bernie articles he's been writing. I guess he's like the Ben Carson of economics.
@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII
@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII 8 жыл бұрын
Steve Keen demolished him in that little spat they had.
@fredguy2
@fredguy2 8 жыл бұрын
+wongdor I feel the same way about barney frank aswell. It's like the moment Bernie is a threat to Hilary all her soldiers line up for the firing squad.
@ramzabeoulve9820
@ramzabeoulve9820 8 жыл бұрын
Now the left knows what its like to get sjw'd
@lizatanzawa7910
@lizatanzawa7910 8 жыл бұрын
....sjw'd?
@polymath7
@polymath7 8 жыл бұрын
+Jesse Wagner Never expect a coherent answer when asking people who think in vacuous buzzwords what they mean; they don't know.
@dragonsfoe99
@dragonsfoe99 8 жыл бұрын
Ramza would vote for Bernie if he was real.
@bodhipeace
@bodhipeace 8 жыл бұрын
+Liza Tanzawa SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR. -ed
@jonnyvelocity
@jonnyvelocity 8 жыл бұрын
+Bodhi Rus I think they know that the word means, it just has no business being in the sentence. New rule: Social justice is apparently bad when banks are treating everyone unjustly...
@Diatonic5th
@Diatonic5th 8 жыл бұрын
I'm seriously disappointed in Paul Krugman. I read the article last night and couldn't believe what I was reading.
@Lius525
@Lius525 8 жыл бұрын
Krugman sold out hard
@lsobrien
@lsobrien 8 жыл бұрын
+Kenpachi Zaraki He was always an Establishment shill.
@jakutapau3990
@jakutapau3990 8 жыл бұрын
+Kenpachi Zaraki “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” Upton Sinclair
@Ou8y2k2
@Ou8y2k2 8 жыл бұрын
+jak utapau Ironically, Krugman occasionally posts that on his blog.
@killertigerace
@killertigerace 8 жыл бұрын
Kurgman once was a decent outsider, but the dark side of the establishment has taken him
@WrecklessEating
@WrecklessEating 8 жыл бұрын
Those poor innocent banks LOL
@davidstewart8906
@davidstewart8906 8 жыл бұрын
+WrecklessEating Keep in mind, everyone, that Joseph Stiglitz is still in favor of breaking up the banks. (I can't post a link for some reason, but just do a quick search on youtube for "Stiglitz breaking up the banks")
@Jamail44
@Jamail44 8 жыл бұрын
First it was, "Obama Boys" (Black guy) now its, "Bernie Bros"(White guy).. What's next?? Victorio Vatos? (Spanish guy) 😂😂😂 #DesperateHillary
@Voider6211
@Voider6211 8 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show that you should NEVER take anyone's word, no matter what their credentials are. If anything, people who have the credentials should be subject to more scrutiny.
@G0DofRock
@G0DofRock 8 жыл бұрын
Thinking Bernie Sanders secretly wants Donald Trump to win is like thinking Trump-supporters secretly want a Muslim president.
@nateslovebug
@nateslovebug 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a pregnant mother and wife, and I am I "Bernie Bro"... *sigh *
@2011blueman
@2011blueman 8 жыл бұрын
+nateslovebug maybe the baby is messing with your hormones enough that you're now anti-women :)
@geejep8579
@geejep8579 8 жыл бұрын
+nateslovebug I hope you know you're a sexist pig and hell is your final destination right? how in your right mind can you not vote for Hilary knowing you are now sexist and will burn i hell if you don't?
@Rafael_Fuchs
@Rafael_Fuchs 8 жыл бұрын
+nateslovebug You're a bro carrier. That sounds like an STD for some reason...
@ajaypasricha9855
@ajaypasricha9855 8 жыл бұрын
Also, I want to add that Krugman said back in 09 on Bill Maher's show that we need another FDR and he was hoping that Obama would be that person but realized he wasn't. He literally just went back on all the progressive shit he used to say. I don't wanna sound like a typical Sanders supporter that calls him a "shill for Hillary" but honestly I have no other way to explain this. He literally took back everything and became another tool of the system. And I used to respect him
@indioside376
@indioside376 8 жыл бұрын
+Ajay Pasricha The hard Left apparently is blind to the legislative blockade of the GOP. A president can have push back from Congress, the Courts, the media, foreign powers, states and local government, and activist of all kinds.
@ajaypasricha9855
@ajaypasricha9855 8 жыл бұрын
+Indio Side Contrary to what people like to assume, both Clinton and Sanders are going to have trouble governing. It's not like the Republicans are rolling out the red carpet for her. However, for me it's mostly about foreign policy. I don't trust Clinton to keep us out of the wars in the Middle East.
@indioside376
@indioside376 8 жыл бұрын
Ajay Pasricha I think she would hold the course on military intervention, as the nation has no taste for war, currently.
@MIKELIN8
@MIKELIN8 8 жыл бұрын
Paul Krugman seems to be in the bag for Hillary. It seems he'll say anything in an attempt to smear Bernie.
@edwardbernayse6665
@edwardbernayse6665 8 жыл бұрын
+MIKELIN8 money and powerful job positions being offered to you talk in DC i suppose.
@MIKELIN8
@MIKELIN8 8 жыл бұрын
When does one's integrity kick in? Is everybody for sale to the Clintons?
@dercannabist-infoaufklarun8938
@dercannabist-infoaufklarun8938 8 жыл бұрын
people I respect: - Bernie Sanders - Noam Chomsky - many others - -Paul Krugman-
@GregoryWonderwheel
@GregoryWonderwheel 8 жыл бұрын
+This Guy Did you misread the list? Krugman "was" on the list, but has been scratched off.
@gabrieldunin-borkowski201
@gabrieldunin-borkowski201 8 жыл бұрын
+ZeGermanGamer Noam Chomsky as in the "useful idiot" who denied the camboyan genocide, citing for proof a book where over 30 of the 50 citations came from the Pol Pot government itself?! Yeah thanks but no thanks.
@ziroth12
@ziroth12 8 жыл бұрын
+Gregory Wonderwheel perhaps that it is differently formatted on mobile? Im on the Android app and there isn't a strike through, although the comment makes more sense that way.
@oNTiger
@oNTiger 8 жыл бұрын
I don't think most of you guys understand, because this really fuckin weirds me out, as I have read and watched Krugman for some time now, and I know his real opinions. I implore anyone to read his book "End This Depression Now!" (2012), even if it's just the introduction and first two chapters. Krugman should massively be on Bernie's side because Bernie's proposals are all almost perfectly aligned with what Krugman begged for in the past. Bernie's politics also sharply punches right in the mouth the very political issues that Krugman talked about in his collection of NYT articles in "The Great Unraveling" (2003) in terms of recent Republican history of blunt political force. This has to be a Washington bubble of NYT he's stuck in or maybe he's just not that into doing real homework on the candidates, but anyway you look at it, it makes no sense for Krugman to waste so much energy on opposition to Sanders.
@BrotherAlpha
@BrotherAlpha 8 жыл бұрын
+Lightspeed "This has to be a Washington bubble of NYT he's stuck in..." Or while he agrees with Sanders more on broad policy, he doesn't think Sanders has what it takes to get it done. I certainly do think Sanders has any clue how to turn his ideas into laws. He claimed he would lead a voter revolt and that Republicans wouldn't dare standing up to the voters. After Sandy Hook, support for a Universal Background Check was at nearly 90%. It still didn't pass.
@cynthricsgamingchannel9177
@cynthricsgamingchannel9177 8 жыл бұрын
+Lightspeed Clearly he's abandoned his ideals for money at this point.
@TyRyos
@TyRyos 8 жыл бұрын
+Lightspeed I feel the same way, I read a lot of Krugman's articles over the years and he always struck me as a very progressive economist. This surprises me very much, even more so than Barney Frank's attack on Bernie supporters. This now have me questioning a lot of the progressive intellectuals that I once believed in. +BrotherAlpha Bernie's goal isn't just to become President, he has stated that his goal is a total political revolution. He doesn't plan to work with Republicans, he intend to push them out of congress and the senate by exciting the voter base to become engaged in the political process and get out to vote. That's the real power in a Sanders presidency, he'll get more liberals elected as people feel empowered and begin to believe that it can be done.
@spencermerritt3891
@spencermerritt3891 8 жыл бұрын
+Lightspeed Krugman got like this back in 2008, too. It seems he has a "Clinton running for president" switch that, when flipped, causes him to utterly abandon any ideology that conflicts with the Clinton campaign message. He's typically a great source and a reliable progressive economist unless there is political goodwill to be won, it seems.
@awill891
@awill891 8 жыл бұрын
+BrotherAlpha Opinion polls for background checks = "a voter revolt" in your mind? We get it, you hate Bernie and think all his supporters are stupid. He's talking about peaceful protests like the fast food workers did which led to $15 minimum wages for 60+ million Americans. He's talking about rallying & informing young people so they'll vote in a progressive congress even in the mid terms to help him get his laws passed. You may not think that's possible and that's fine but to equate his "voter revolt" to a poll for background checks is ludicrous.
@SallyHampton
@SallyHampton 8 жыл бұрын
Democrats have lost me and Paul Krugman has lost my respect.
@reinux
@reinux 8 жыл бұрын
Krugman sold his soul.
@mshara1
@mshara1 8 жыл бұрын
Since when did Krugman become a minion of the #Hillbeast? Oh wait, its the NYTimes, nvr mind.
@jasonwyman1873
@jasonwyman1873 8 жыл бұрын
+mshara1 *#Hildebeest
@ThatsMRdouchbag
@ThatsMRdouchbag 8 жыл бұрын
+mshara1 ___He wants Tim Geithner's old job
@imwyrmfood9925
@imwyrmfood9925 8 жыл бұрын
Please New York. We need you. Help us put an actual honest politician in the white house.
@polyglotdreams
@polyglotdreams 8 жыл бұрын
Krugman is selling out!
@laurenroot1420
@laurenroot1420 8 жыл бұрын
+Keeley Tim Selling out is right. $$
@seanwjones07
@seanwjones07 8 жыл бұрын
+Keeley Tim He's been selling out...he believes in the federal reserve...
@ubuhubbub
@ubuhubbub 8 жыл бұрын
Nicely done exposing Krugman's hypocrisy, Cenk.
@snowbaordguru
@snowbaordguru 8 жыл бұрын
We Nationalized the risk and kept the profits privatized.
@snowbaordguru
@snowbaordguru 8 жыл бұрын
***** Same thing...
@snowbaordguru
@snowbaordguru 8 жыл бұрын
***** Yep. What people don't realize is the Democratic part of the title (Democratic socialist) Sanders uses as his mantra; meaning "by the people".
@razaakbari3140
@razaakbari3140 8 жыл бұрын
"This is a giant butt" -Cenk Uygur, 8th April 2016 (2:40)
@bnijj
@bnijj 8 жыл бұрын
+Raza Akbari Dang it you beat me to it haha
@tonydimeo1882
@tonydimeo1882 8 жыл бұрын
+Birinder Nijj That's what she said.
@razaakbari3140
@razaakbari3140 8 жыл бұрын
Birinder Nijj ;P
@razaakbari3140
@razaakbari3140 8 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Seale It was a joke.... One wouldn't use 'this' when referring to another person anyways....
@MrGrowslikeatree
@MrGrowslikeatree 8 жыл бұрын
Raza Akbari ok...
@bobsal993
@bobsal993 8 жыл бұрын
i like how passionate Cenk gets sometime about the future of Merica!! #feelthebern
@joeschmo2693
@joeschmo2693 8 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I used to admire this guy. Does nothing prick The Conscience of a Liberal?
@TheFarmanimalfriend
@TheFarmanimalfriend 8 жыл бұрын
Why is Paul Krugman saying this crap? I used to respect the guy, but not anymore.
@darrenfunk8440
@darrenfunk8440 8 жыл бұрын
I want to know what edge Bernie is "over" so I can join him
@DescartesRenegade
@DescartesRenegade 8 жыл бұрын
I love that these people are coming out for Hillary, Bernie will know who to discredit and dismiss when be becomes president.
@ashleypeterson924
@ashleypeterson924 8 жыл бұрын
He probably won't be president though.
@samasoku
@samasoku 8 жыл бұрын
+Ashley Peterson probably this that. life is full of surprises 😉
@ashleypeterson924
@ashleypeterson924 8 жыл бұрын
+Samasoku True, but statistically, the odds are not ever in his favor, they are in hers.
@questworldonline
@questworldonline 8 жыл бұрын
+Ashley Peterson Sanders doesn't seem to be the kind of guy who would do such things. And even if he's not the president, he pretty much stirred up the hornet's nest. When some governor says he's going against the popular vote for Bernie and vote Hillary anyway as a Super Delegate, people are going to pay attention. After all, it's not just about the presidency, it's about cleaning house top to bottom.
@ashleypeterson924
@ashleypeterson924 8 жыл бұрын
+questworldonline But Hillary is winning the popular vote, by like 2.4 million votes.
@MikeD0011
@MikeD0011 8 жыл бұрын
Lehman Brothers was never a small bank. In 2007, a year before they filed for chapter 11, Lehman Brothers had 28,000 employees, at least a dozen subsidiaries, and about 250 billion $ in assets. So tell us again, Paul, how Lehman Brothers weren't a big bank.
@MarkHogan994
@MarkHogan994 8 жыл бұрын
I read this article yesterday and was fuming. I feel very vindicated now that Cenk has demolished Krugman.
@kellyraeofsunshine
@kellyraeofsunshine 8 жыл бұрын
Mainstream media attacking Bernie? Shocked. Why would the establishment dislike the anti-establishment candidate.
@jamespeterson4275
@jamespeterson4275 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah but its still disgusting
@magellan8449
@magellan8449 8 жыл бұрын
Well, it took quite a while until TYT realized that Paul Krugman isn't that bright despite his Nobel Prize. I've been following Krugman for more than 15 years now for my personal amusement as he has been comically PROVEN wrong on almost any prediction and analysis he ever published. Just three of hundreds examples: 1.) In 1999 he wrote an article on Enron's fantastic company and business culture. Unfortunately, Enron collapsed in 2001 due to accounting fraud. 2.) There is a meme regarding Krugman's misunderstaning of the importance of e-commerce (referring to an article published by him in 1998): static1.businessinsider.com/image/52c173566bb3f7bb746167bb-960/krugs.png 3.) In June 2010 Krugman criticised Germany as federal budget cuts would damage the German economy and lead to a collapse of economic growth. Lo and behold, Germany's GDP grew in 2011 and its economy remains the strongest in Europe until today and ranks among the four biggest economies worldwide. Okay, here's a bonus: 4.) Krugman predicted the collapse of the Euro at least ELEVEN times between 2010 and 2012 alone. For example: www.nytimes.com/2011/09/12/opinion/an-impeccable-disaster.html?ref=paulkrugman&_r=0 www.nytimes.com/2011/10/24/opinion/the-hole-in-europes-bucket.html?ref=paulkrugman www.nytimes.com/2012/05/18/opinion/krugman-apocalypse-fairly-soon.html?ref=paulkrugman etc. The bottom line is: if Krugman ever praises the company you're working for, better look around for another employer. If he commends your country's development, try to get dual citizenship somewhere.
@WonderTuff
@WonderTuff 8 жыл бұрын
Economists are shit at predicting stuff though.
@WonderTuff
@WonderTuff 8 жыл бұрын
***** And yet they try to, and fail.
@charliefranklin5921
@charliefranklin5921 8 жыл бұрын
Hahaha you legend Cenk. I literally read that article he did last night, and I actually used to quite like Krugman (he did a great piece on the austerity illusion in the UK) and was so shocked. I literally could not believe it was him writing this smear, and then for you to do this video now has literally made my day. Thank you.
@StephanieL180
@StephanieL180 8 жыл бұрын
Krugman knows plenty about economics. He's simply ensconced in the establishment. Krugman's made his own arguments for single payer healthcare - now that an outsider candidate is actually advocating it, it's a stretch too far. Krugman's made his own arguments for banking reform - now that an outsider candidate is fighting for it, it's preposterous and unrealistic. Piketty & Stiglitz > Krugman.
@dch3348
@dch3348 8 жыл бұрын
+Stephanie L: I suspect he might not have ever really believed in ideas like single-payer that he often advocated for, he just knew there was money in being the lone voice at the NYT saying that stuff. He basically had a monopoly on those positions, so he didn't have to compete with other pundits. Now that there is a candidate that might make that a reality, he is probably really freaked out that he'll have to pay some slightly higher taxes as a millionaire. My other theory is that he's under duress from the NYT execs. Who knows, maybe he's writing from a locked tower somewhere being guarded by a dragon. Or he could be a robot, and Bernie's policy platform exceeds Krugman's original programming in his logical circuits. You know, if I'm covering all of my bases.
@elismaclaugh1349
@elismaclaugh1349 8 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that Krugman does understand. He's holding out for a job in the Clinton admin.
@jonnyvelocity
@jonnyvelocity 8 жыл бұрын
+Leigh Schmitt A liar lying for a liar, you say?
@elismaclaugh1349
@elismaclaugh1349 8 жыл бұрын
I say.
@fastzander
@fastzander 8 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Krugman had been bashing Sanders for months. I thought Krugman was a democratic socialist, like Sanders is?
@lnhart7157
@lnhart7157 8 жыл бұрын
+Alexander Bars He's kind of a leftist. But also an economist. An Nobel price winning economist, too. Maybe he thinks Sanders doens't have a clue about politics? I mean, Sanders is anti free-trade. No sane economist is protectionist.
@VEGITAS4
@VEGITAS4 8 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised this isnt a Cenko unchained segment
@rybpo7
@rybpo7 8 жыл бұрын
Dang, Cenk! Bringing down the hammer and hard! Go, brother, go!
@ceep356
@ceep356 8 жыл бұрын
Additionally the banks abandoned all rational credit review - no income verification, no collateral, little to no appraisals, false ratings of the mortgage securities by the rating agencies. Banks were generating fees by churning bad mortgages after bad mortgages while paying out massive bonuses.
@timmyandsachi9147
@timmyandsachi9147 8 жыл бұрын
the name of the recession in Japan is called "Lehman Shock".
@justinrice5405
@justinrice5405 8 жыл бұрын
Keep telling people, vote Green. A vote for Clinton is a vote for Neo-Con foreign policy and Reagan-lite, "Third Way" economics. Either way, two Republicans will be at the heads of the two-party tickets.
@bronsondixon4747
@bronsondixon4747 8 жыл бұрын
This is what Krugman actually said: "the crisis itself was centered not on big banks but on “shadow banks” like Lehman Brothers that weren’t necessarily that big." This is actually factually correct. The manipulation of credit ratings, derivatives created the issue. The banks were forced to actually grow in size through nationalization and subsidized purchases for stabilization. While this wasn't optimal.. It was one of the only ways to get some stability at the time. If the issue was the size of the banks this would've never been an option. Cenk literally manipulated the context of his comments so much he wouldn't even quote an entire sentence.
@questworldonline
@questworldonline 8 жыл бұрын
+Bronson Dixon But Cenk did say that whole sentence.
@TheKeivan324102334
@TheKeivan324102334 8 жыл бұрын
Wow ur either stupid or REALLY reaching
@ABCInfinit3
@ABCInfinit3 8 жыл бұрын
+TheKeivan324102334 How is he reaching? That's the quote, and Cenk neatly cut around it to make it sound like Krugman absolved any bank of any responsibility. And then Cenk proceeds to talk about the mortgage crisis as if Krugman didn't mention it but as anyone who read the article can see Krugman referred back to another article he wrote, this one: krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/six-doctrines-in-search-of-a-policy-regime/ Which goes into detail into the exact things Cenk ranted about. Cenk then says "he goes on to say preposterous things like 'shadow banks' like Lehman Brothers weren't necessarily that big". As if it wasn't part of the exact same sentence. This video is trash, it's dishonest, it very intentionally misrepresents Krugman. The people who really went over the edge are the regressive left and TYT jumped over the cliff right with them.
@freakyfreak1
@freakyfreak1 8 жыл бұрын
+Bronson Dixon you are literally reaching
@WhiteZilla117
@WhiteZilla117 8 жыл бұрын
They are coming at Bernie from all sides and its doing nothing but pissing me off and making me like him just that much more. The American people are getting sick of it and honestly the tactics being used are nothing but underhanded and desperate.
@bowlofrice1006
@bowlofrice1006 8 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked that Krugman was heard seeing how the static noise machine he borrowed from Hillary was turned on.
@keith3139
@keith3139 8 жыл бұрын
it pisses me off that clinton gets away with any and every smear she says about bernie but bernie says shes not qualified and the media explodes screaming sexism
@intouchre
@intouchre 8 жыл бұрын
Bernie sits across from Matt lauer this morning and I think Matt was more comfortable with a camera up his arse. The tax man is coming mr media .... Time to pay up....
@SettingTheLowestBarPossible
@SettingTheLowestBarPossible 8 жыл бұрын
Ok, so... full disclosure, I'm a conservative (far-right) service-member, who happens to watch Young Turks, and read Krugman from time to time because its unfair to argue with opposing view points without knowing their viewpoints. I read the Krugman Op-Ed yesterday and I'm glad TYT is taking him to task on it. And I'd also like to say that there is nothing wrong with being a "Bernie Bro", I felt the same way for Ron Paul in '08 and '12, and its a shame that there is no Saunders equivalent on the republican side in this election. My primary hope of this election cycle is that we see a rift in both parties, which is happening now, and that in 2020, the wonderful people of this country, left and right, will have four, five, maybe even six legitimate parties to choose from. We need to have more accurate platforms to stand behind, so please, don't vote for Hillary (if she is nominated), no mattter how tempting it will be in the face of a terrible Republican nominee, we know the long term benefits will be tremendous.
@tonystockell8870
@tonystockell8870 8 жыл бұрын
Remember in November
@sh4rksh4d0vv
@sh4rksh4d0vv 8 жыл бұрын
+Tony Stockell Protip
@ashleypeterson924
@ashleypeterson924 8 жыл бұрын
Remember what?
@jayejacobs5985
@jayejacobs5985 8 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show you...when you threaten these bought and payed for Democrats money, they come after you with avenges....
@kalsizzle
@kalsizzle 8 жыл бұрын
hackiest article ever
@daver787
@daver787 8 жыл бұрын
Matt Taibbi did a great rebuttal article for Rolling Stone magazine about this. TYT should really try to schedule an interview with Mr. Taibbi. He has insight into the banking industry to a degree that nearly no one outside the industry has. He's a very brilliant man.
@Dryfee
@Dryfee 8 жыл бұрын
Listen you can disagree all you want with Krugman, but you can't argue that you (Cenk the lawyer turned pundit) knows more economics than Paul Krugman (nobel laureate in economics turned pundit).
@kvnd7331
@kvnd7331 8 жыл бұрын
if you don't think Cenk is willing to think he knows better than everyone about everything you don't know Cenk
@DavidMiller-dt8mx
@DavidMiller-dt8mx 8 жыл бұрын
WTF? Krugman is contradicting himself. He does understand it - he's written many a column on the failures of the banks.
@TheDrexill
@TheDrexill 8 жыл бұрын
exactly. Krugman isn't ignorant, he's playing an angle. he's very obviously trying out for a job.
@SomeChillStuff
@SomeChillStuff 8 жыл бұрын
The part where you talked about Lehman was incredibly dishonest. Krugman saying Lehman wasn't that big is not contradictory to his previous column but quite congruent. It's his whole point. Lehman wasn't that big BUT it still posed a huge risk to the global economy. Therefore just the size of a bank is not a great indicator of how much risk it poses to the economy. This is why it's silly to just "break up the big banks" when the big banks aren't necessarily the ones who pose the greatest risk and breaking them up may not lower risk. Krugman saying the Lehman wasn't all that big is not a reversal on his previous comments about how much risk it posed. They are both true and both prove his point. It was incredibly disingenuous how you presented his views and his statements. It just goes to show how far you're willing to go to push your agenda, even if it means distorting the truth.
@hnam1111
@hnam1111 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think he's twisting anything deliberately. He probably has a very shallow understanding of economics, as is the case with most alternative media outlets.
@edgaracosta9976
@edgaracosta9976 8 жыл бұрын
I wish the young Turks could have people like this guy in their show and then tell them how wrong they are in their face. Would pay to see that reaction
@TheNavigateur
@TheNavigateur 8 жыл бұрын
It's interesting what a few dollars can do to the integrity of some people
@ElNingyou
@ElNingyou 8 жыл бұрын
Hill got a lot of cronies, each jumping into irrelevance one after the other. Martyrs of foolishness.
@hone1er
@hone1er 8 жыл бұрын
2.8 million subs! I've been waiting for you guys to break that lol
@davidpark7035
@davidpark7035 8 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. Systematically breaking down the smear piece. Wrecked.
@888strummer
@888strummer 8 жыл бұрын
Krugman loses a lot of credibility from that article. The largest bankruptcy in American history before Lehman was MCI who had debts of around $110 million. Lehman's bankruptcy was shocking as it was more than 5 times the size of MCI's with dents exceeding $600 million. For Krugman to downplay their bankruptcy is simply a 100% lie on his part because he is way too smart to not know the enormous debt that Lehman had.
@dodopoopinpoop
@dodopoopinpoop 8 жыл бұрын
170 economics came together and said Bernie's plans are absolutely the best for the country. Everytime someone says Bernie is wrong there is literally 100's of more qualified people saying the opposite.
@davidstewart8906
@davidstewart8906 8 жыл бұрын
+dodopoopinpoop I wouldn't say "more"qualified. I would just say "qualified." Here's an interesting reply to Krugman, for those who are interested. www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-the-banks-should-be-broken-up-20160408
@rahn45
@rahn45 8 жыл бұрын
So one of the most respected people in 'economics' say the banks weren't the cause of the economic crash? I guess respect's going price must be pretty cheap these days.
@VitalVampyr
@VitalVampyr 8 жыл бұрын
I think it must be very expensive. After all the respected economist is prostrating himself before the banks.
@GardEngebretsen
@GardEngebretsen 8 жыл бұрын
I love how Hillary supporters are always focusing on her being "strong with black voters". I feel like the importance of their vote is over-emphasized. Traditionally, and actually, black, and other minorities, voters vote for the democratic candidate with an overwhelming majority. Wouldn't it be much wiser for the democratic party to have a candidate with the greater popularity among the voter group that actually fluctuate between themselves and their opposition? Namely white voters? Considering the minority vote would always go to the democratic party. Whether or ot 75% or 80% of the minority vote for a candidate is much less important than whether or not 45% or 55% of the white vote votes for your candidate from a pure electability point of view.
@PetersonSilva
@PetersonSilva 8 жыл бұрын
+GardEngebretsen Not to mention independents.
@marywelch3291
@marywelch3291 8 жыл бұрын
+GardEngebretsen Actually, and it's no surprise, the MSM are failing to report that new polls show minority demographics rapidly and massively changing support from Clinton to Sanders. Exit poll data showed Sanders had more blacks voting for him than Hillary in Wisconsin - which is an industrial state, not just cows and cheddar cheese, ya know? Clinton is rapidly losing the black vote and saying so long to the Latino vote over the past few months, beginning all the way back in SC. See Tim Black's KZfaq channel. Check out the other African American political and news KZfaq channels in the sidebars of his videos. Google exit poll data demographics. It's all over the net, but not on main stream news at all.
@GardEngebretsen
@GardEngebretsen 8 жыл бұрын
Mary Welch My point was that Hillary always makes a point out of how she has the edge on minorities. However, democrats always do - and the difference between her and Bernie on minorities wouldn't have any great effect in a general election. That the minorities have finally understood that Bernie actually defend at least their interest better than Hillary I see as a positive sign.
@Robin-bk2lm
@Robin-bk2lm 8 жыл бұрын
I just read the Krugman piece and was extremely disappointed in the professor. Uyger dismantles the prof's dishonesty completely here. Well done.
@8r8i8c8k8
@8r8i8c8k8 8 жыл бұрын
+This Guy I see you're posting in multiple comments defending Paul. Let me tell you something: in a debate, it doesn't matter who is more intelligent. It doesn't matter what is your job. The only thing that matters is your arguments, and how you present them. Cenk just showed that the guy was lying through his teeth, not only with arguments but with facts. If you want to be helpful, make counterarguments, saying that someone is an economist and another is a reporter doesn't matter at all.
@8r8i8c8k8
@8r8i8c8k8 8 жыл бұрын
***** He accuses Krugman of selling himself to Hillary Clinton and drastically changing his position on the banks to attack Bernie. The man said the Lemon Brothers was just a SHADOW bank, when he ADMITTED on a previous article that it almost broke the entire world economy. What? He also says that the crisis in 2008 was not due to the big banks. WHAT??? Man, you don't need to be a genius to realize this guy is completely biased and twisting the facts to meet his opinions. Are you going to deny all that too? The guy even goes to say that Bernie is trying to get TRUMP ellected. WHAT?????? This is just insanity.
@8r8i8c8k8
@8r8i8c8k8 8 жыл бұрын
***** I see, so your point is that the government was at fault for banks that approve mortgages to people that have poor credit! Alright, that makes perfect sense! You really should think your position again man. If you think it was the government's problem, then really vote Bernie. I assure you he will increase the regulation over the banks.
@8r8i8c8k8
@8r8i8c8k8 8 жыл бұрын
So you're going with... shit happens? lol Bernie has a specific plan to get this sort of stuff not happening again or, in the scenario that it does, it doesn't bring the whole country/world down with it. Isn't this better than 'just suck it up'?
@8r8i8c8k8
@8r8i8c8k8 8 жыл бұрын
***** Man, nobody is trying to predict everything that will happen. Bernie is trying *to avoid* making things that *already happened* to happen again. Do you see the clear difference between 'let's make it impossible for recessions to happen' and 'let's prevent another recession to occur in a way that almost devastates our country'. Now, I've never studied economics in college classes, but this that we are discussing is not economics, is just simple logic. The amount of regulation you would use surely is something that I can't define here, but I would say 'enough to ensure the fall of a bank doesn't mean the fall of a country'.
@jarodtall7876
@jarodtall7876 8 жыл бұрын
Reading this article made me laugh, then cringe, and then laugh again.
@AndreB23
@AndreB23 8 жыл бұрын
Sell-outs. Sell-outs everywhere.
@creamy8033
@creamy8033 8 жыл бұрын
Krugman was promised a job in a hypothetical, now impossible, Clinton Administration.
@braxtona.8895
@braxtona.8895 8 жыл бұрын
You are misquoting Krugman here - he states that it wasn't the "Big Banks" that are the source of the systemic risk, but rather the shadow banking practices. Now many of the large banks participated in this, but the fact that they are large is not what CAUSED the crashed. The too big to fail notion comes in when we talk about stabilizing the financial system, which is a separate issue. You mention shadow banking towards the end of the video, but again you are a bit off in your interpretation of Krugman's comments. Shadow banking is, relative to the overall financial sector, small. It does, however, posses a huge potential to expose a broader group of institutions to risk - largely a result of allowing financial institutions to consolidate their holds with banks (all things Krugman has said).In summary: Krugan is an Economist, who is correct in his assessment (though often a political hack), and you are displaying your ignorance of the economic forces underlying the crash.
@Eli-pe6ku
@Eli-pe6ku 8 жыл бұрын
+Braxton A. Exactly.
@sheldondunnjr
@sheldondunnjr 8 жыл бұрын
Paul Krugman: avowed Keynesian and Hillary lackey. That's two very significant strikes.
@Socialism_on_Roids
@Socialism_on_Roids 8 жыл бұрын
I'm half-tempted to burn my copy of Paul Krugman's book 'Conscience of a Liberal' over this.
@charlesw5919
@charlesw5919 8 жыл бұрын
+Activeassholeonroids Don't burn it, sell it, the same way Krugman sold his conscience.
@mshara1
@mshara1 8 жыл бұрын
+Activeassholeonroids Sell your copy and donate proceeds to anti-Clinton forces. Its what Clinton would've done.
@careywheaton
@careywheaton 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. How shocking and sad.. I used to respect and admire Krugman. Makes you wonder what the heck is happening backstage.
@RevolutionarySM
@RevolutionarySM 8 жыл бұрын
Revolutionary socialists reject the private market and call for the full and total nationalization of the banks and the whole financial sector. Because the capitalist circle will never end as long as the means of production remain in private hands. Socialism is what we stand for, not social democracy which keeps capitalism alive!
@onewomanandsomesongs
@onewomanandsomesongs 8 жыл бұрын
What's gonna be funny is Bernie winning the presidency, and Krugman slapping his forehead going, 'damn, I would have had a job with Bernie had I not wrote that hit piece!'
@GregoryWonderwheel
@GregoryWonderwheel 8 жыл бұрын
+OneWomanAndSomeSongs Yes, Krugman has joined the side of "the Three-card Monte, the flim flam, the okey-doke, the rooty- poot, the high jinx, shenanigans" as Spike Lee has so eloquently named it at the Bronx appearance this week.
@liofalba
@liofalba 8 жыл бұрын
I generally respect this program's commentating but this just seems over the top. Firstly it can be both true the Lehman was a relatively small bank and that its collapse set of a domino that crashed the system. All banks were weak and Lehman exposed this. Secondly it is true that shadow banking "i.e. unlisted derivatives & CDOs" that really made the crisis worse, a point you seem to make but then ignore. Thirdly it is true that reinstating Glass-Steagal would only affect banks like JPMorgan or BofA would not really do anything to stop the next crash. And finally, and this is the real kicker, breaking up the banks is a STUPID idea, small banks are more expensive to run, less efficient and more unstable. The solution is to regulate banks tightly, like a public utility, and a concentrated banking system makes this easier. Liberals are the party of smart people, please stop pushing a dumb idea, because it fits well with your skepticism of big business, we have to do better. Also as a parting note does everyone who ever disagrees with Bernie have to be a moron or a corrupt shill? Can't we just disagree about policy like normal human beings?
@BlunderCity
@BlunderCity 8 жыл бұрын
+Lionel Fernandez-Alba Breaking up the banks is not a bad idea since they got a lot larger since the crisis. But unless it is done worldwide, I'm not sure what that achieves apart from weakening the US banking system. A big foreign bank blows up and it's Armageddon in the US banking sector.
@liofalba
@liofalba 8 жыл бұрын
That is a fair point, I generally think that larger banks are more stable and easy to regulate, the crisis we had in Spain (I'm Spanish) was caused by many small banks handing out crazy mortgages. But you are right that just breaking down US banks only puts them at a disadvantage against foreign banks. More global regulations are obviously needed, Basel III did not go far enough at all.
@Retotion
@Retotion 8 жыл бұрын
I think it's bordering demagoguery when we can't even consider the fact that Bernie might not be infallible
@BelCamryn
@BelCamryn 8 жыл бұрын
I practically got called sexiest and a Bernie bro simply because I am Australian
@BelCamryn
@BelCamryn 8 жыл бұрын
***** Want another shrimp on the barbie mate?
@theworddoner
@theworddoner 8 жыл бұрын
To think I used to respect Paul Krugman.
@2011blueman
@2011blueman 8 жыл бұрын
Krugman, the Clinton economic advisory, isn't in favor of Bernie. Not shocked.
@nathandrake5544
@nathandrake5544 8 жыл бұрын
+Leggo My Ego Rob Reich, who was Secretary of Labor under Clinton, is pro Bernie
@EazyE11
@EazyE11 8 жыл бұрын
Im starting to think this country doesn't deserve a candidate as pure as Bernie yet.
@ItHappens117
@ItHappens117 8 жыл бұрын
Here in Canada we have 4 massive banks and had a far smaller recession. Increasing things like capital requirements, and requiring firms to hold on to a significant portion of the assets they create (disincentivizing creating shit mortgages/other assets with bad counterparties supporting them), and generally creating a far more regulated banking industry solves this problem. I love Bernie's message generally but I wish his campaign would hire some folks with more expertise on financial regulation to outline a detailed plan on the type of regulations he'd like to use. Would really cause a big blow to Clinton if his campaign totally outsmarted her on this.
@bigdsolutions
@bigdsolutions 8 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed in TYT here. You disagree with Krugman on a couple of points, it should be OK. HE IS ON YOUR SIDE. He is a progressive. You cannot deny that. Progressives should be allowed to disagree with one another from time to time without accusing each other of corruption. I read the piece several times and I don't think he is accusing Sanders of being racist or sexist. He is accusing him of lacking policy sophistication, with which is OK to disagree if you think so. But rather than simply disagreeing you are accusing him of covertly working for the Clinton campaign. Based on what exactly? Simply agreeing with her on some issues and by using 'Bernie bro'? On the issue of breaking up big banks, Krugman has criticized this idea since at least 2010: krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/11/too-big-to-fail-fail-2/ And he might be right. The US government broke up AT&T and the former parts just continued acting as one entity - ripping off consumers and not competing with one another.
@BlunderCity
@BlunderCity 8 жыл бұрын
+dimitar1901 Anyone who disagree with Bernie Sanders is bought. That's the message from from Bernie supporters. I'm sure during the Weimar Republic they were plenty of idiots who didn't think it was Hitler who was the problem. They though it was that establishment candidate. Yeah he was a much bigger problem than Hitler!
@HunkMine
@HunkMine 8 жыл бұрын
i really like krugman and he is a great economist. i don't understand his opeds though, this isn't his first attack on bernie
@marcokiener7312
@marcokiener7312 8 жыл бұрын
Bernie should get Joseph Stiglitz in his team. This guy would finish off Krugman
@karasmith2928
@karasmith2928 8 жыл бұрын
What's even funnier is this was the exact oped he wrote about Obama in 08. Cut and paste much Krugman?
@nme2197
@nme2197 8 жыл бұрын
Do we really need professors or would education be better with a technological criteria, professors are just people pushing their bias opinions and frankly with the internet today we don't need them.
@prideventues
@prideventues 8 жыл бұрын
Was always a fan of Krugman but I read this too and found his attitude in this commentary obvious. He is behind Hillary and it is so obvious. I am fine with someone having an opinion on a candidate but this is Hillary's issue politics takes place of respect for other opinions. Then they blame Republicans for being extremist?
@TheNavigateur
@TheNavigateur 8 жыл бұрын
+Maurice Jones . somebody's writing a big fat check with krugman's name on it
@TheNavigateur
@TheNavigateur 8 жыл бұрын
Teriek Williams . Extremism for justice = correctness.
@kinseyw8546
@kinseyw8546 8 жыл бұрын
+Teriek Williams You sound like Aunt Jemima.
@SoftwareAgentsTV
@SoftwareAgentsTV 8 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought that was Christoph Waltz in the thumbnail. I guess Hans LAnda has it out for Bernie, too, huh?
@Antebios
@Antebios 8 жыл бұрын
Now, I have to dismiss Krugman? Say it ain't so!
@wizardzrii
@wizardzrii 8 жыл бұрын
This man has lost all credibility and the NY Times for printing.
@GregoryWonderwheel
@GregoryWonderwheel 8 жыл бұрын
+Harry Rankin The connection is obvious. As soon as Krugman got the NYT gig he turned to the center and became a poster boy for establishment neoliberal economic policy. Krugman is no better than Howard Dean and Barney Frank who have betrayed their previous progressive base of supporters and have become paid lobbyists who are now on the gravy train shilling for Hillary. I'm on the progressive "Love Train" with Bernie as Cornel West calls our movement.
@gregoryodonnell3793
@gregoryodonnell3793 8 жыл бұрын
+This Guy Do you know what "radical" means? Liberal is by definition a moderate position. Do you know anything about political theory?
@gregoryodonnell3793
@gregoryodonnell3793 8 жыл бұрын
***** What? Again, you seem to know nothing about political theory. "Radical" does not mean "dramatic change." Radical refers to the rejection of philosophical liberalism (i.e. revolutionary socialism). Sanders is not only liberal; he's quite moderate by liberal standards. The leading luminaries of liberal theory over the last fifty years -- John Rawls, Thomas Nagel, TM Scanlon, Samuel Freeman, Brian Barry etc -- are far more leftwing than Sanders. Rawls believed that the welfare state wasn't nearly enough to achieve distributive justice, and Brian Barry favored a global difference principle (Keep in mind that Rawls is not just a mainstream political philosopher; in many ways, he created modern political theory) As for Sanders policies, go look up any definition of center left politics. It includes a mixed economy, public healthcare, public education, public provision of child care, social insurance programs for the poor, elderly, infirm and unemployed etc., a wealth tax, progressive taxation and public investments. Everything about Sanders's platform is center left. It's just a standard, run-of-the-mill social democratic platform. Again, you seem to know very little about political theory. Being on the leftwing of the Democratic Party, or the rightwing of Republican party, does not make a politician "radical." Radical" has a particular meaning in political theory.
@gregoryodonnell3793
@gregoryodonnell3793 8 жыл бұрын
***** What a stupid thing to say. It doesn't matter what "US standards" are. You can't make up your own words. Political terms have particular meanings. They have textbook definitions. Center left, far left, leftwing, rightwing, center right, far right, radical, liberal, reactionary, fascist, communist etc -- all these terms have fixed meanings. Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to use any political term. Political terms would just be a matter of context-dependent opinion and perception. (By the way, Rawls, Nagel, Scanlon, Freeman etc are all American)
@gregoryodonnell3793
@gregoryodonnell3793 8 жыл бұрын
+This Guy lol again, staggeringly idiotic thing to say. It's amazing that the people who know nothing are always the most confident. What you're referring to in your "bare" example is words that have different parts of speech. But we're not talking about different parts of speech here. The term "center left" is synonymous with social democracy. Again, do yourself a favor and look up any definition of center left politics you can find. As for the word "radical," if you go around saying that the center left is "radical", people will think you're an idiot. The word "radical" in left politics has always been associated with Marxism. Take the following definition, for example: "the faction representing extreme left-wing political views, often Marxist or Maoist in ideology." (www.dictionary.com/browse/radical-left) This has nothing to do with Sanders. This is a simple matter of political taxonomy.
@freddylubin
@freddylubin 8 жыл бұрын
Why is expressing an opinion an "attack" and "smear"? The article itself doesn't have the smirk that's in Cenk's voice when he quotes.
@3sm1rost84
@3sm1rost84 8 жыл бұрын
+Freddy Lubin Krugman questioned the morality of Sanders. This an attack.
@davidstewart8906
@davidstewart8906 8 жыл бұрын
+Freddy Lubin Actually, the article devolved into an attack on Sanders's character. Have you read the article? Krugman's criticisms are directed at Sanders's integrity. But even if we set that aside, what bothered me was the use of the term "bernie bros." It's completely inappropriate for a respected academic to use an epithet in his published work. That's completely beyond the pale. It's one thing for a twitter troll to use it, quite another for an award winning academic to use it.
@InfectedByEli
@InfectedByEli 8 жыл бұрын
+Freddy Lubin Because he's knowingly voicing untruths in order to make people distrust someone else. How is this NOT an attack or smear?
@freddylubin
@freddylubin 8 жыл бұрын
I don't agree = untruth
@davidstewart8906
@davidstewart8906 8 жыл бұрын
Freddy Lubin You are welcome to mischaracterize our arguments if you want. That's your prerogative. Keep in mind, though, that two of the replies to your original comment complained not about the economic analysis in Krugman's piece, but about the personal attacks against Sanders's character. (As for the economic analysis, remember that Joseph Stiglitz also advocates breaking up the banks)
@ukbullseyeldn
@ukbullseyeldn 8 жыл бұрын
Seriously, you're saying Paul Krugman doesn't understand economics? You realise he is a Professor of Economics who graduated from Yale & MIT? I'm not a great Krugman fan but trying to claim he doesn't know about economics is kinda like saying Hillary isn't qualified for President. I guess that's just the colour of the sky in BernieWorld
@D13GOR
@D13GOR 8 жыл бұрын
"Mmmmm enraged me" 😂😂😂
@HIRUKOC
@HIRUKOC 8 жыл бұрын
He's absolutely gross.
@Ebalox
@Ebalox 8 жыл бұрын
This is the single least literate, most condescending nonsense I've ever been unfortunate enough to watch. I'd recommend you spend some time in a real economics course, such as the one which Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman teaches. Furthermore, in future please try to refrain from creating such blatant straw man arguments when trying to make a point, and refer to the actual text in question.
@cosmotagliafierro8055
@cosmotagliafierro8055 8 жыл бұрын
" Oh what a tangled web we weave - when first we practise to deceive ! From Krugman to Crookman. Enjoy your 30 pieces of silver Paul.
@amandagirlygirl12
@amandagirlygirl12 8 жыл бұрын
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