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@patriciaribaric3409 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. I bought a mini Camping Moon lantern with a mini canister that I need to fill. Watching it being done is very helpful.
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
After doing it once you feel very confident with it.
@patrickhawkins9087 Жыл бұрын
Great video Paul, Just the job for filling my jet boil canisters.
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@drkmaes Жыл бұрын
Keep up the channel, I love it well done. Well everything you do that saves you money is considered danger. I refill from a 12 kg butane gas bottle. Make sure you never put more gas in the canister than the given amount on the canister, if you overfill let some escape until you get to the correct weight. Follow the rules and you will be fine. Just do not do this by the campfire wile smoking a big cigar, that is not good for your health in more than one way.
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@robertwebb5586 Жыл бұрын
Paul: I've been doing that for years I also mix the butane with propane a 1 to 3 mix and it works great.
@hotdoug1000Ай бұрын
You mean a butane to propane of 3:1 ratio (B:P).
@hypo345 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I purchased a SOTO gas refill adapter and didn’t have much luck getting gas to transfer. In the winter one would still need the propane isobutane mix. I have stoves for summer and winter use so I don’t really need to transfer gas as most of our camping is done when butane will work perfectly well and just suffer the silly gas mix prices for the occasional winter use or use white gas. Always good to have a back up system in place though and at that price it’s worth another try.
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@sg7392 Жыл бұрын
I just use the adapter and put the butane can straight onto the Trangia gas burner because it preheats the fuel line not bad when colder as well. Cheers Steve from Aus.
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve
@toktokwan63175 ай бұрын
Thanks Paul, its from a full aerosol butane can as you demonstrated to an empty kovea canister.
@grahamcheeseman1321 Жыл бұрын
Great idea, Paul. I use the adapter with tube on one side to refill my canisters but your system is much better. As always, I always enjoy your informative videos.
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks
@asd67lkj Жыл бұрын
Great video, Paul. I use that longer cans for a single burner stove and when I find my trangia will use this method. saved...
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
I also have a table top gas stove that takes the big cans.
@stoff4963 Жыл бұрын
Nice Paul I brought the last one you demoed a while back but this one looks a much better version Keep em coming bro 👍🏻🇬🇧
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@rogercude14592 ай бұрын
I've used that home bargain gas in -4 and just as good as the premium brands.
@macaw6718 Жыл бұрын
hi paul, nice bit of kit thanks. great vids, keep them coming. kind regards.
@garym2595 Жыл бұрын
Nice hack gadget Paul, i got one couple of years ago that has small flex pipe, two fittings with taps to transfer gas but this one is lot less of a faff. I also got the one you did video that can transfer gas from butane lighter can . Tend to use alcohol in my trangia 27 but gas is godsend if weathers is very windy. Cheers Paul for the info, might buy one. 👍
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@hunterthompson8450 Жыл бұрын
Very informative Paul, thanks. Just bought it on Ali 👍🏻
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Nice one!
@scottl5028 Жыл бұрын
Nice work Paul 👌🏽
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@jasonorme41805 ай бұрын
It was very annoying that I had to buy the temperature gauge plus metal pan insert so I don’t burn anything which should be with it when you buy it.i say again thank you for a great idea
@janmariolle Жыл бұрын
Useful tip. Thank you!
@magneto263 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul.
@TheBill9999 Жыл бұрын
Good vid Paul. Nice looking shirt i like that.
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@alexmorgan3435 Жыл бұрын
Very useful.Thank you. I just bought a big 13kg propane cylinder £48. I also bought a 2.7kg Camping Gas cylinder for the extortionate sum of £45 for my CG two burner stove. Camping Gaz is a rip-off! I already had empty cylinders for both so no extra out lay for these or to enter into service contracts. I have a propane regulator and when the CG is done I plan to run my two burner stove from the propane cylinder.
@drkmaes Жыл бұрын
The heavy blue camping gas are ok with propane, but do not refill the small canister with propane , Propane has a higher much higher pressure than butane. most of the canisters from the store have a 70% Butane and only 30% propane.
@alexmorgan3435 Жыл бұрын
@@drkmaes Thanks for your reply. I do realise this. Butane regulators are set lower at approx 28-30 mbar where as propane regulators at around 37 mbar. I do not plan to refill any smaller cans with propane just run the cooker off the 13kg bottle with appropriate regulator. I do have some empty butane bottles as well which I might get exchanged for full ones which I could also use.
@drkmaes Жыл бұрын
@@alexmorgan3435 The pressures you mention are the working pressure however most gas burners for camping ,use the pressure from the canister, no regulator in between. The pressure in the canister is dependent on the temperature of tank propane has a pressure of 129 psi @ a temperature of 27 C Butane 23 psi @ 27 C propane has a pressure of 197 psi @ a temperature of 43 C Butane 47 psi @ 43 C The small canisters have been engineered to withstand the pressures of the Gas mix of 70% butane and 30% propane, but the higher pressures from propane would give a problem. Your blue camping gas tank should have no problem with the propane. You can refill the camping gas tanks yourself, all the adapters for that are on the market.
@vincesmith9138 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you putting the videos up again Paul Will we see you in the woods with the dd xl again or has your outdoor pursuit taken you on a different road. Keep em coming Paul.
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Thanks, i still hammock! The weather is so awful this year. You will see it again.
@modestadventurers7 ай бұрын
Just a heads up. Go outdoors are doing the propane/iso mix canisters 8x£10 at the moment.
Have you ever had a cold burn? Interesting video, I may even try that out for myself. I grudged the cost of a small canister, the large one made more sense but it's awkward to pack away into the Jetboil.
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
I have a Fire Maple " Copy of the JetBoil" so i have to get the cans that nest into it. I refill until they start getting a bit rusty.
@Bigblueone Жыл бұрын
4 of these at my local home bargains are £6
@PaulBissekerBushcraft Жыл бұрын
That's weird. I have been to 3 different shops and they are £4.49 for a pack of 4
@rogercude1459Ай бұрын
Just started doing this Certainly a cash saver! Can you empy the top home bargains can or does it get to a point where no more gas transfers but there's still some gas left in the can?
@PaulBissekerBushcraftАй бұрын
Yes you wont get it all out
@davidwalker1652Ай бұрын
If you put the can to be filled in the freezer for 30 min and the donor can in warm water, you can get most out. Might need to repeat this a couple of times if you want to squeeze out as much as possible. I just refilled mine from a 227g net weight bottle, and there was ~17g left at the end. (Emptied the bottle fully to check). So that's only ~8% wasted. If you don't want to muck about getting every last drop out, then you'll easily get 75% or more out of the bottle. Don't forget it's also in liquid form inside the can due to the pressure, so it's not just a question of balancing gas pressure -- you're literally pouring some of the liquid across too, provided you keep the donor on top. The main thing to do is always use similar gas mixes. If you refilled a butane bottle with a pure propane, for example, you'd be putting the bottle under massively more pressure for the same weight of contents, and risk exceeding the design pressure of the bottle you're filling. That can lead to catastrophic results. (boom!)
@kurtsteiner8384 Жыл бұрын
All it does is equalise the pressure. The empty can taking content from the pressured can. Divers do this all the time, may be betted if they had a pressure gauge with it. Should be okay if you are careful.
@davidwalker1652Ай бұрын
Don't forget that most of the contents are actually in liquid form due to the pressure, not gas. You're transferring liquid when the donor can is on top, so it's not just a question of a 50% transfer of gas. If you're careful with your fill percentages and temperature differentials you can get 90%+ out of your donor cans. You're right about the pressure gauges -- as this method is going only by mass, It's important to only refill with similar mixes, so you don't exceed the design pressure of the container you're filling. e.g. NEVER fill a butane or butane-mix bottle with pure propane -- it's MUCH higher pressure for the same mass and temperature.
@toktokwan63175 ай бұрын
Hi Paul, I live in Malaysia, and its very humid here. So here's one question. Does one need to freeze either donor or receiving tank prior to the transfer, or can one just transfer the gas without the freezing process? Please note that I plan to do this on the field where freezing either cans could not be done. Anticipating your reply. Thank you.
@PaulBissekerBushcraft5 ай бұрын
if you can make the gas that you want to transfer colder than the receiving tank it would make it easier. If that isn't possible,. You would get more from a full can to an empty can at the same temperature than two half full cans. Don't expect to empty a full can on transfer. You can get an adapter for the can you want to transfer from, if you are going to have it with you out in the field then you don't need to transfer.
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@leonardpearlman4017Ай бұрын
Humidity has nothing to do with it! It's well for the receiving tank to be cold, so that the Butane tends to condense and lowers the pressure in the receiver, just makes everything easier. That silver adapter with the valve sometimes also has a little button on it that VENTS the lower tank head space, and allows more liquid to flow. It's well to do this job outside. Also (I just did this today) you can help things along by putting some heat (I used hot water from the kettle) in the base of the upper bottle, it makes a little cup. That makes an increase in the pressure in the upper tank and moves some more liquid. You can hear it moving!
@wc45723 ай бұрын
how many times can you refill a canister?
@PaulBissekerBushcraft3 ай бұрын
until it starts rusting. Give it a good visual examination each time you use it.