PC Gaming & Emulation - Snapdragon X Elite // An Early Look at the Surface Pro 11 // Windows on ARM
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Күн бұрын👉 Join me as we take an early look at Microsoft's brand new Surface Pro 11 which is powered by Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite chipset which promises to be quite the leap forward for Windows on ARM. Not only that but Windows now has the new PRISM translation layer which improves compatibility with x86 games and apps. Please join me as we briefly examine the potential for PC gaming using this new translation layer as well as native ARM emulation with Playstation Portable, Playstation 2, Gamecube, and Wii as well as others like Switch emulation.
Follow-up video (full PC Game showcase)!: • PC Gaming on Snapdrago...
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📑CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
00:41 Surface Pro 11
01:24 Microsoft PRISM
02:06 PC Gaming
02:56 Grand Theft Auto V
04:00 Ori and the Blind Forest
04:50 Tetris Effect
05:21 Stray
06:05 Doom Eternal (Vulkan Issues)
07:09 God of War
07:48 Hades II
08:47 What Doesn't Work?
10:01 Emulation
10:23 Playstation Portable (PPSSPP - ARM)
11:15 Nintendo Gamecube (Dolphin - ARM)
12:12 Nintendo Wii (Dolphin - ARM)
12:37 Playstation 2 (AetherSX2 - ARM)
13:37 Playstation 2 (PCSX2 - x86)
14:10 Switch (Sudachi - x86)
14:43 What Doesn't Work? (RPCS3, Xenia)
15:11 Wrap Up
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@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
Let me know what you might want to see tested! 🙏
@Pridetoons 25 күн бұрын
Various Generations of 3D Games as well as Windows Game Compatibility with older and newer 2D PC games.
@hellspinner8378 25 күн бұрын
Nintendo 3ds Emulation
@hellspinner8378 25 күн бұрын
Also Cemu for Wii U
@olnnn 25 күн бұрын
Supertuxkart lol - it's not very demanding but it actually has a native windows arm build which would make it easy to make a comparison between native and x86 emulation for a game
@protect-chickens-c50 25 күн бұрын
docker 😂
@NZtechfreak 25 күн бұрын
Finally a look at emulation on one of these, this is the kind of gaming I'd be looking to do on here.
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
There will definitely be more testing!
@PolecatReturns 24 күн бұрын
Exactly, I'm not looking to play AAA games on this thing. I just wanted to be able to drop into a few games of Mario Kart in Dolphin when I'm not doing any work.
@christianr.5868 24 күн бұрын
Honestly, and it’s great!
@rohanayush 25 күн бұрын
Now that is a review ! Thanks so much .
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
You’re very welcome, I’m glad it was helpful! 🙏
@zinilom 24 күн бұрын
Im so glad you made this video ive been considering getting this and emulation is my main form of gaming so this is so useful man. Great video!!
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
You’re very welcome! I figured this would be helpful for many considering these new devices. I should have more videos coming soon 🙏
@greatrespect1549 24 күн бұрын
Great video. Thanks for emulation testing.
@PhuLa 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for this video. A random itch I was curious about when I was looking at Surfaces.
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
You’re very welcome! 🙏
@chocho2188 25 күн бұрын
This is cool as hell!
@andreaslassak2111 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for review. What controller you used?
@shirokuro73 24 күн бұрын
Definitely performing better than I would have expected, game wise! I got the Surface Laptop 7, which is the same chipset and RAM as this, and so far the only game I've tried is World of Warcraft, which is compiled for arm, and runs flawlessly. I can get it over 60fps by lowering settings. Thank you for the look at emulation, I'm mostly interested in nintendo platforms, so it's great to hear Dolphin has a native arm build, and I will test that. I'm going to look up SNES and GBA emulators and try those. Thanks for a great video!
@JoelFabiani 25 күн бұрын
Great video. Really impressed. Out of curiosity, have you tried install an ARM Linux? I would love to dual boot on it.
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
I’ve started to research the best distro for it. The main thing I’m worried about is compatibility because the hardware is new. I am definitely curious to see how performance is over on Linux ARM.
@mr_droide 24 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdad I heard in videos from some reviewers that at Computex some tests presented by Qualcom were on Linux.
@Bhargav_Gadekar 24 күн бұрын
*Yes finally someone reviewed what I'm looking for in these chips* 😊😊😊
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
I should have more coming in the next few days! 🙏
@Andrew-Night 11 күн бұрын
Please could you specify me which detachable controller were you using on the Surface pro 11??? I am looking a controller like this, which one did you use ?? At the beginning of the video (first 4/5 seconds) Thanks!!
@apredator4gb 25 күн бұрын
Cool. Thank you.
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
You’re very welcome! 🙏
@matca1 23 күн бұрын
curious about the joystick hardware. Even after visiting the amazon link, does it attach correctly to the side USB ports of the surface? Looking at my surface, I guess it could, just lined up a little higher?
@ItsLewisTV 24 күн бұрын
Very informative video! What controller were you using that could fit onto both sides of the surface pro?
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
It's a RedMagic Shadowblade 2, which is a rebrand of the Gamesir G8 Galileo. It can be modded to accommodate large tablets! amzn.to/3KTrDHU My friend, Shem over at RetroBreeze has a great video on the mod: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rcd5jaV327nRop8.htmlsi=OT2M6dWM6xKty7Jg
@ItsLewisTV 24 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdad awesome! Thank you
@pandaengine 24 күн бұрын
Great video! I’ve been excited for these laptops. Can you try Diablo 4 by any chance?
@LittleBoobsLover 24 күн бұрын
yeah and dota2 on low, medium and high on dx12 and vilkan comparison.
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
Yes, definitely! Diablo 4 is a go-to test game so it’s on the list for sure. 🙏🙏
@pandaengine 22 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdad thanks! I’ll be waiting
@25eazi 25 күн бұрын
loving my surface pro 11. i cloud game through game pass mostly myself. or i stream from my series x when home here and there. Cloud gaming is only improving.
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
Cloud gaming has definitely improved a ton. GeForce Now is really solid.
@ZangetsuBrian 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for reviewing this chipset! I was curious about Emulation and this pretty much answered all my questions. I was thinking about replacing my old laptop with these new Snapdragon ones because of battery life and performance. How is the standby time? I know Windows is notorious for sipping away battery if you don’t shut the pc down and just go sleep mode overnight.
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
Battery life has been really nice so far for me but I will be exploring battery performance in-depth in the coming days. I've honestly just been having fun exploring the gaming/emulation capabilities and seeing how the translation layer handles things.
@fallinginthed33p 25 күн бұрын
These new ARM PCs are something else. You'll get maybe 1% or 2% battery drop overnight.
@liamness 23 күн бұрын
I would guess it won't be long before a build of Sudachi with the NCE (native code execution) feature is available, like on Android builds.
@nanodesu9031 24 күн бұрын
how about android emulation? Im considering this my next on the go device if android run decently enough as well.
@lebombe8342 25 күн бұрын
Daaaammnnn ❤ So cool. I hope MS save one Surface Pro for me 😎
@johncandelaria770 4 күн бұрын
Rob, I love your videos. But we need more. I feel like you could do more if you didn't do the podcasts. Your work is miles beyond that.
@patrikvonkohler8739 23 күн бұрын
Hey! Do you happen to have DayZ so you can try it out? It's the only game I want to play on PC so I would love to see how it performs on a Snapdragon X Elite!
@lululemon0424 25 күн бұрын
is there possibility to run macos on these machines natively?
@Grave79 24 күн бұрын
What are you using for the FPS overlay? I've tried RivaTuner and MSI Afterburner but my games keep crashing if I have them running. Closing them, and the games run fine.
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
That's weird, that's exactly what I'm using with HWInfo for additional metrics.
@Grave79 24 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdad Thanks for confirming! At least I'm on the right track :) Turns out it depends on the game. Hades crashes within seconds every time if they're running (haven't tried Hades 2 yet). Other games seem to not care. Not a huge deal since I don't plan on doing much gaming on it. I just think it's a fun thing to play with.
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
@Grave79 Oh yea, it’s always fun to test! One of my favorite things to do with new hardware 🙏
@ArcaneCoyote 24 күн бұрын
So my ideal device is a tablet, or a 2-in-1 laptop with enough gaming chops to be a competent road-trip companion, but also, ya'know, provides the comforts and convenience of a tablet form factor. X Elite is OK, but not quite what I was hoping for in terms of performance. Is it possible we'll see games that run via translation improve as devices with the chipset are out longer and there's more work done on them? Or is it more likely I'll be waiting for Strix Halo or Intel XE 2 to find their way (hopefully) into a Surface Pro or similar device in the future if I'm looking for better gaming performance and don't necessarily care if it's ARM architecture or not?
@retrotechdad 23 күн бұрын
Yes, I do expect things to improve on that front. This is already a massive improvement over prior generations with the translation layer. There are a few 2-in-1 options that might be interesting to you including the Minisforum V3 which has the 8840U in a similar large-screen tablet form. It's not quite as elegant as the Surface Pro but the 8840u will be much better suited for gaming. There is also the OneXPlayer X1, which has the Core Ultra and will also be shipping shortly with the 8840U. I've covered the Core Ultra model specifically here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qJZ6fcyasMzbd40.html I will be covering their 8840u revision in the future. Finally, Microsoft did release the Surface Pro 10 for Business, which almost no one knows about. This specific model is interesting because it ships with the Core Ultra 5 or 7 (135U or 165U): www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/business/surface-pro-10
@elsyee3457 24 күн бұрын
can you try honkai star rail and genshin? I play both games on my dell xps 13 2-in-1 which is an ultra thin, fanless 2-in-1 and I'm just wanna figure out what would be a good upgrade path for that niche style of laptop.
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
Yes, for sure! They are on my list already since I think many will be curious to see how and if it works with the compatibility layer.
@morm2173 24 күн бұрын
Should I buy the book 4 ultra or book 4 edge for intense gaming and business?
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
The ultra will be better suited for gaming for sure 👍 🙏
@turbolenza35 12 күн бұрын
Can you try if Far Cry 6 works fine??
@Unicornpirate 10 күн бұрын
What about Yuzu? I know its not supported but a lot of Switch games can run on it still
@vmafarah9473 24 күн бұрын
does emulation increases input lag?
@ritskumaarana1980 21 күн бұрын
I tnk Ardeno X1 chips also supports Vulcan 1.3 with shader 6 .?.!
@TalesOfTheJimny 25 күн бұрын
That glitchy doom eternal looks good 😂
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
Vulkan and PRISM are NOT a good mix. 😅
@jarosawborowski3018 25 күн бұрын
Please check if Genshin, Honkai Star Rail and Wuthering Waves are runing on Snapdragon X Elite
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
Will do, I had those on my list of games to test! I'm curious if the anti-cheating methods will be an issue for those games.
@josher14 25 күн бұрын
Genshin runs on the x plus just did a video 👍
@hexagonal7075 25 күн бұрын
Can you try eGPU.. try to install the x86 gpu drivers.. see whether it installs and works
@xperiafan5370 25 күн бұрын
No egpu drivers are available for these devices just yet
@niveZz- 24 күн бұрын
nvidia and amd might add drivers for arm soon tho and qualcomm said the snapdragon x elite would support dedicated GPUs so maybe we'll see a laptop with a dedicated gpu in the future
@xperiafan5370 24 күн бұрын
@@niveZz- In future, yes. In the next 2-3 months, no. Nvidia started developing GPUs for ARM PCs just recently. So I'd expect them to take some time to get everything working before releasing them.
@samh5886 2 күн бұрын
Where to get the windows version of aethersx2?
@masdi727 12 күн бұрын
Can u use egpu?
@aliboghaith1989 24 күн бұрын
Is it good with city skylines 2?
@otozinclus3593 22 күн бұрын
14:24 Ryujinx *does* run natively on ARM. You just have to compile it yourself. And it runs games really well. If you like to, I can send you my own compiled version, if you don't have much expirience with compiling yourself.
@retrotechdad 22 күн бұрын
Are you using the Linux ARM64 build to compile? I know the Ryujinx team has been working on a Windows on ARM version but there's such limited information out there. I'd love to be able to get this working natively and show off some of the capabilities of the SDX since I have an upcoming emulation focused video in the future.
@otozinclus3593 22 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdad I just downloaded the source code from the GitHub (click on the green "code" button, then install zip), Unzip that. In that folder you have a README file and inside of that is somewhere a 3 step tutorial on how to compile it yourself. It will automatically build iself for the architecture you are currently using on your device, in this case Arm64. Performance seems good. Metroid Dread runs with 60FPS in docked mode, BOTW with mostly 30FPS in handheld mode. The big problem is, that in certain 3D scenes, the screen gets all buggy and messy, BOTW is a total mess to play. Some games don't seem to suffer from that issue that much, Metroid Dread has it occasionally, but to an extend that I would deem playable.
@christianr.5868 21 күн бұрын
@@otozinclus3593considering the raw cpu power of this chip. I’m sure it’s capable of more than that. Hopefully the bugs get ironed out
@gnoclaude7945 25 күн бұрын
This will be great when the power increases. Imagine if the xbox store is available on snapdragon mobiles. Its going to be great days for emulation when windows is fully playable.
@flat_stickproductions209 24 күн бұрын
It's not worth it right now. AMD 8840 or even the new AI 9 series outperform this chip by a mile and are cheaper.
@andrescarrasco1248 24 күн бұрын
Best video of the arm windows 11 x86 emulation, just as everyone suspected it's not good, why Microsoft can't get it right?
@user-fp5xu1gj3o 23 күн бұрын
Bro thanks for the review, I like it if it's not difficult, test it on emulation of VeraCrypt, Undetectable, Dolphin Ant and Remote Desktop Manager (free).
@yungcashmere5201 24 күн бұрын
Would this run counter strike 2?
@KyleRuggles 25 күн бұрын
This is awesome, though I could easily tell GTA 5 was not running natively, it's so skippy, prism at work! From what I can tell, the games aren't really playable imo. GOW, like... wow.. I'm sure the 1% lows are horrible. I dunno man, even GOW on PPSSPP looks skippy, not sure if it's your capture card but 60fps should look much smoother than that. 10:59 Well it has plenty of room to grow, looking forward to when it does! I think we're quite a ways away from getting these chips in handhelds. Great review! I'm way more impressed by it's productivity. Could you test out Premiere and Lightroom? I'd more likely use these chips with everything else aside of gaming, for now.
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
I'm definitely gonna do more testing and comparisons as well!
@Pridetoons 25 күн бұрын
No it's definitely the Translation Layer. The Phawx ran into the same issues.
@dgevert 25 күн бұрын
Looking at the power drain rate and trying to guess at the tdp being used here...but what I'm seeing doesn't suggest drastically better battery life than the existing x86 handhelds. Windows on ARM doesn't really seem impressive to me.
@pedrolopez8104 21 күн бұрын
i hope this processor comes to a top tablet like samsung or xiaomi
@Saif_is_1 24 күн бұрын
Can you try the galaxy book 4 edge bc it has the best snapdragon x elite 84-100 , I want to check if it deserve
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
I would love to since I’m curious about the higher end SKU. It’s just not in the budget after purchasing the Surface Pro 11 😅🙏
@Saif_is_1 24 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdadI am planning in buy the 1tb ssd / 16 microsoft surface 7 laptop but does it have the same performance in emulators? And do you need to charge the laptop for performance difference? + can you do another video focusing in ps2 games such as ape escape 2 / god hand / urban reign / dragon ball budokai tenkaichi please?
@iamraihan3203 24 күн бұрын
Windows on Arm is very impressive and solid and the prism translation layer too. The gpu is weaker. Hope the next gen X will be focused on gpu perfo5.
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
The gains over the prior generation is definitely substantial. I can’t wait to see what’s next! 🔥
@Penz Күн бұрын
Have you tried Elden Ring yet? I'm curious.
@Penz Күн бұрын
I also would like to see a test on the native ports of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask
@lpvarov4499 24 күн бұрын
Online games ?
@ZeFoxii 16 күн бұрын
About the Vulcan backend Microsoft knew Vulcan would be an issue and chose not to put development hours into it. I don’t know why, I’m not going to speculate as to why. The facts are they knew it would be an issue and didn’t put much if any time into it.
@Mrs.Twilight-wt6jb 23 күн бұрын
I csnt wait for thr prism to be refined even further snd for thr snapdragon chip to be refined furthet
@kurbasw8 25 күн бұрын
Try using fex or box64 for cemu and rpcs3
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for this, I will give this a try! 🙏
@RomuloTechNews 21 күн бұрын
I want see it too, a arm soc running Wii U and PS3 emulatores😃
@JoeHoeDoesSomething 8 күн бұрын
If you can test out Linux, Ryujinx has a native Arm version for Linux
@cosmiccat17 25 күн бұрын
It's as...-optimized, how is it possible that it doesn't run a small Switch game well when low-mid-range cell phones can handle that?
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
It's not designed for the architecture. The emulator is running through a translation layer. The Snapdragon X Elite itself is more than capable of Switch emulation and hopefully we will see a native ARM emulator for the platform. Ryujinx for Mac (Apple Silicon) is a good example of that.
@cosmiccat17 24 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdad Thank you for clarifying my doubts, I hope that with the next big Windows update they will optimize the programs more. Speaking of Apple, it would be good if they took advantage of the existing apps for Android Arm just as Apple did with theirs on iPhone for the Mac M
@guythat779 24 күн бұрын
Can you try warthunder please?
@ragingtyga 25 күн бұрын
I'm wondering if anyone has tried dual booting something like this with Android. I've seen certain Android native devices setup to Dual boot windows on arm, but doing that on this would be amazing
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
I like the way you think! I'll have to look into this. 🙏
@lebombe8342 25 күн бұрын
Need to see on Civilization 6
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
Nice choice! I'll add it to the list of games to test. 🙏
@TheLazyGamers 24 күн бұрын
It’s come a long way, but it’s still got a long way to go. It’s worrisome that Microsoft plans to use these Arm chips in the new Xbox, and how they now have a dedicated team for forwards compatibility (emulation). I can’t see this ending well in the long run, even if they get the emulation perfect, will developers support the switch to Arm when gaming is still dominated by X86?
@bulletpunch9317 24 күн бұрын
Xbox games shouldnt have any problems with arm, itll just be switch but 20x more powerful or something. But extra work for pc ports.
@christianr.5868 21 күн бұрын
Considering the switch is the most successful console right now, and the switch 2 will get a TON of support, arm is currently dominating the gaming market
@TheLazyGamers 21 күн бұрын
@@christianr.5868 yet many 3P developers that you find publishing on PC, PS & Xbox still choose to skip the switch, often some of the largest games currently, like COD, GTA, R6 etc. Almost all the games he tested other than Fortnite aren’t available on switch either.
@christianr.5868 21 күн бұрын
@@TheLazyGamers the only games out of the ones that he tested that isn’t on switch is god of war, because it’s a Sony game. And hades 2, which isn’t on any console yet but will likely also make it to the switch since the first ones on it. GTA V, I have no idea by it’s not on switch yet, but Doom eternal, stray, Ori and the blind forest and Tetris effect are all on switch. The thing that’s holding the switch back is its graphical capabilities, not its architecture. When the switch 2 comes out. Everyone is gonna try to get their games on that thing
@impuls60 25 күн бұрын
I would notice it, the hitcing is wild. I hope GTA runs better IRL.
@itsmilan4069 24 күн бұрын
3:34 pretty sure people would think it running on 7-8 year old hardware
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
No Surface device from 7 or 8 years ago would be running GTA V. 😉
@itsmilan4069 24 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdad dunno coffelake did run GTA V undee 30 fps back then
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
Hell yea, I was one of them crazy enough to do it 😅🤣 I love my potato gaming.
@mamideck 24 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdad kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbqJdtmiprrPqmQ.html
@dorukbebek 25 күн бұрын
geforce now would be a good test on it, lets do it and see how it performs.
@TVCHLORD 24 күн бұрын
Setting fps caps on a fps test is a genius move
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
Not meant to be a FPS test, very clearly stated in the beginning of this video.
@TripleJ16 25 күн бұрын
EGPU Test!
@Deathdemon65 25 күн бұрын
I don’t thing the problem is the x elite I think the problem is the prism emulation layer some sort of software bottleneck
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
Absolutely 100%. Native ARM software will fly on it.
@niveZz- 24 күн бұрын
the gpu is kinda mid too tho
@apfelschorle1988 24 күн бұрын
@@niveZz- the GPU is really not that bad. Should pretty much run every emulator if its optimized. Including Switch.
@niveZz- 24 күн бұрын
@@apfelschorle1988 yes but compared to similarly priced amd and intel integrated GPUs it's not that impressive
@mannyw_ 24 күн бұрын
Dang, it’s even worse than Intel’s integrated graphics?
@rushmore3927 14 күн бұрын
Emulating x86 to emulate another platform emulated on x86 seems obtuse. I compared this to the 155H and 8840HS. They both smoked it for PC gaming and PS2 and PS3 emulation. The translation layer does not have much ceiling for ARM to x86. Added: Heavier games on MAME like the newer Gauntlets also had X chip performance issues. Seems better to get a device with those chips. Still amazing battery life for lower resource tasks. Especially the 155H after recent updates.
@flanflanjp_ 25 күн бұрын
Wish they'd have made a chip with no npu and a bigger gpu. Oh well, maybe they'll have a version with an Nvidia gpu next year.
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
It would be interesting to see, I get why it's there but for my needs I'll never utilize the NPU.
@bulletpunch9317 24 күн бұрын
I dont think qualcom would ever use nvidia, but mediatek had some plans.
@welshmouse 25 күн бұрын
Wow, that performance is much lower than I anticipated. That's less than half the performance of something like a steamdeck, perhaps even 1/4th. There go my hopes of windows on ARM finally being competitive.
@KyleRuggles 25 күн бұрын
It's a baby, give it time before it can walk. Nothing is perfect from the get go. Exclude gaming and it's a great chip!
@welshmouse 25 күн бұрын
@@KyleRuggles compared to apple silicon launch, that isn’t really a reasonable stance, especially since this is based on hardware and software that is much longer standing. qualcomm has been making these chips much longer, MS has had their x86 translation layer much longer. So this is a pretty poor start.
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
Time to do comparisons next!
@welshmouse 25 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdad comparisons with m3 mac and steamdeck would be interesting for sure.
@Valk-Kilmer 25 күн бұрын
@@KyleRuggles It's also fucking $1500+
@emuPoco-F3 19 күн бұрын
🙏 You just tempered my hype 😂 I ain't buying it, gta V runs even on a surface pro 3
@vleong94 20 күн бұрын
Does NBA 2k24 work
@niolss 20 күн бұрын
Now compare a good x86 pc to the arm x86 performance. Benchmarks
@najeebshah. 19 күн бұрын
Much better than the paid crap ETAprime does. Almost something to note the top variant has a gpu thats 21% faster than this laptop, that should help
@retrotechdad 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for that 🙏 I would've loved to check out the Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge with the higher-end SKU of the SDX Elite.
@sunnyhansda 25 күн бұрын
Just waiting for cheap arm windows devices to come
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
Yea, the cheapest right now is $999 for the Elite Plus.
@sunnyhansda 24 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdad will wait till it drops to $500
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
It will be a bit, Surface devices tend to hold their value quite well.
@sunnyhansda 23 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdad not the surface I meant to say about more devices will be released and then the price will become cheaper.
@uncaringbear 25 күн бұрын
Looks promising, and things are bound to improve. The sooner Windows is rid of Intel x86, the better.
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
For sure, this is a massive improvement over the prior gen Snapdragon Windows on ARM devices!
@GameTechTalk 25 күн бұрын
I was having bigger hopes for X Elite but in all fairness, this thing has to go through so many translation layers. Lowkey, I wish that chip was shipped with a desktop AndroidOS solution. I'd jump on a Samsung DeX laptop using an X Elite but for Windows on ARM, I think this is too much to ask for too little performance in the trade.
@blu_vin 20 күн бұрын
I would've at least expected steam deck performance, but they are far away from that
@LuisPerez-5 25 күн бұрын
$2,000 for an ARM chip.
@alcinoos4013 24 күн бұрын
What is the point of the video if you cap the fps and can’t see how it really performs ? This video is clueless 💀💀💀
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
The point of the video is to demonstrate the compatibility of Windows on ARM with x86 games. I made it clear that this is not an in-depth test of performance or benchmarking. There's a reason for the capping the fps so that the gameplay is stable. You're more than welcome to make your own video since this one is clueless. 💀💀💀
@alcinoos4013 24 күн бұрын
Give me your laptop then 💅💀
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
😅🤣 Head on over! We can benchmark together 🙏
@Gertbfrobe407 24 күн бұрын
Try emulating Windows on winlator on the Snapdragon X-Elite. 😂
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
Haha, great way to take my power grid down. 💥 🤯
@AnTran147 25 күн бұрын
Qualcomm really needs to start improving their GPUs. They had no reason to on mobile as Nvidia shifted Tegra to just AI crap and while Apple is a direct competitor in the mobile space, they're not an immediate competitor. And there really weren't any other threats on mobile, with not many games needing higher end GPUs on Android. Now though, they try to bring their anemic mobile GPUs to PC and they just can't actually touch AMD or even Intel on anything besides benchmarks (which don't matter).
@bulletpunch9317 24 күн бұрын
Their gpus on mobile are bigger than apples. Beating apple in every benchmark in perf and efficiency, even rt. These games being bad could just be emulation problems.
@TalynOne 25 күн бұрын
Its clear if you want to game you need to buy its direct competition, Apple M series laptop.
@marcopolopiol 25 күн бұрын
not for gaming
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
Lots of things aren't for gaming, but it's still fun to test and try.
@Coconutgl 25 күн бұрын
gaming performance similar to steam deck, it is fine.
@williamwong5831 25 күн бұрын
$2000 hmm …
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
Starts at $999 for the Surface Laptop.
@khusbusVlog 24 күн бұрын
Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤❤
@retrotechdad 24 күн бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@seppeseppe-jq7nr 25 күн бұрын
history comming back , grafik bugs and low fps like allways on microsoft surface devices , big pass !!
@raffgaming7707 23 күн бұрын
Try winlator 😂
@michaelbenny659 25 күн бұрын
Handhelds that say LEG, laptops with ARM. Trading them in the marketplace will cost you an ARM and a LEG
@leaphardotnet 13 күн бұрын
Gta 5 run terrible compared to my gtx 970m laptop from 9 years ago ! Prisme is a joke, that's why bechmarchs came after release !
@saaleempanhalkar846 3 күн бұрын
1 lakh+ laptop and cant handle games. Its terrible. I don't know who its made for.
@Pridetoons 25 күн бұрын
Basically in short, Windows ARM stills sucks.
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
I think part of the problem with Windows on ARM is while these advancements and improvements are welcome, what's the end goal here? Efficiency has improved on the x86 side and we don't need to deal with any translation layers/compatibility. Of course, I still can't resist my curiosity and so testing continues! 🔥
@Pridetoons 25 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdadI just want Linux to continue to grow as a gaming platform and Windows to become less bloated.
@Robin-wr3qv 25 күн бұрын
Gaming on arm sux, Windows on arm is awesome ! *
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
I'm still pretty impressed by what's happening here on the gaming side with the translation layer.
@Robin-wr3qv 25 күн бұрын
For a first iteration, qualcomm really nailed it !
@worldstarkeys8328 25 күн бұрын
ngl even the base m1 mac air is miles better than this....
@MobileDecay 25 күн бұрын
Windows on arm is trash. I don't arm to be a monopoly so I'm glad it sucks.
@retrotechdad 25 күн бұрын
I think there's a long road before that happens especially with massive gains on the x86 side with efficiency.
@christianr.5868 25 күн бұрын
Arm can’t be a monopoly because other companies can make it. Nvidia can make arm computers. And it’s a matter of time before windows on arm gets good. But x86 isn’t going anywhere. It’s just more of options for different users
@MobileDecay 25 күн бұрын
@@christianr.5868 Okay I mean I don't want arm to be the only processor in existence.
@christianr.5868 25 күн бұрын
@@MobileDecay that’s not gonna happen, but out of curiosity, assuming it gets to the point where everything works great on arm, why not?
@Deathdemon65 25 күн бұрын
@@MobileDecayeven if it wanted to it can’t cause we talking like huge library of apps that need x86 instructions
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