PCI Express 7.0 is INSANE

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@kaystephan2610 Ай бұрын

PCIe version felt like: PCIE THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FOOOOUUUURRRRRRRRR FIVESIXSEVEN

@pranavbadrinathan6693 Ай бұрын

More like: THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FOURRRRRRRRRRRRR FIVE67 lol. Six was released yesterday, I swear!

@naveentechs Ай бұрын

4 was shorter than yall think

@Hypnodog_ Ай бұрын

It really doesn't feel like it but the time between 4.0 to 5.0 is shorter than 2.0 to 3.0 (2 yrs vs 3). 5.0 to 6.0 and 6.0 to 7.0 are also 3 years apart respectively. I legitimately thought the 6.0 video came out last year lol

@scythelord Ай бұрын

Actually it would be more like "THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FOURFIVE S...SEVEN" PCIe4.0 hadn't released a single device before 5 was a finished standard which is kinda why intel opted to ignore 4.0 and wait the year or so to adopt 5.0. Then I don't honestly even remember so much as hearing about 6.0 and we're now on to 7.

@Anankin12 Ай бұрын

Pcie 4 was available with B550/X570/Z590, proper availability with A620/B650/X670... Which is when pcie 5 was made available. There wasn't even a full generation of wide availability for PCIe 4 before 5 came out.

@KiltedCritic Ай бұрын

I'd love to be in the meetings for the PCI standards group: "Next version is due out soon, are we all agreed we double the speed as usual?"

@portalwalker_ Ай бұрын

PCIe naming is just the opposite of USB

@jdbertel33 Ай бұрын

In 2002 or so I job shadowed an engineer at intel for a couple days. Got to see a 10ghz Northwood ALU and sit on a call discussing the physical spec of pcie 1.0 with reps from like, dell, hp, asus, and others. Was wild.

@dennisfahey2379 Ай бұрын

Pretty much. The same in networking. The goal is 10X and often there is an intermediate 4X baby step. What's interesting is these internal expansion buses used to be parallel (ISA, EISA, VESA, PCI) but the PCI-E broke away and became more of a network topology. In fact the "rate determining" bit is a thing called a serial/deserializer or SERDES. And the ubiquitous and high volume PCI-E and Ethernet keep pushing that function to its next plateau. PAM4 started in the networking side of the game and once it was in the chip library slid - very naturally into the SDRAM and PCI-E functions. Datacenters drive the progression and CXL is going to be HUGE. It will liberate the dedicated coprocessor market. (GPU's were a dedicated coprocessor - many many more exist.)

@timramich Ай бұрын

@@dennisfahey2379NVMe is what is driving this progression. Why use 4 lanes for an SSD when you could use 1? Get into a high number of drives and you run out of lanes. Then you look into running multiple servers just to network out data to a main data controller server. This will bring things more in line with what SAS did. Multiple JBOD chassis worth of drives connected via PCIe to a single server without needing any kind of PLX type of thing.

@ZeroUm_ Ай бұрын

The "what" is easy-ish, knowing how to do it is why one gets to the SIG.

@Icon1306 Ай бұрын

Nice... Now my next laptop will have PCIE 4.0.

@FusionC6 Ай бұрын

nice

@josephgood2704 Ай бұрын

These jokes would be better if 4.0 wasn't out for more than a year on laptop.. Like manufacturers have plenty to make fun of. We don't need to make up any.

@Raul-pg1pf Ай бұрын

@@josephgood2704You just didn't get it

@jogizy Ай бұрын

Still on X9000 cpu with ddr2 667 2x4 on the laptop lol

@ghajik. Ай бұрын

@@josephgood2704he is broke so he's gonna get an old laptop

@PLAYCOREE Ай бұрын

It feels like we were stuck on 3.0 for years and now we are just speedrunning pcie and ddr standards😂

@williehrmann Ай бұрын

Yeah that is strange. I just switched from 16 GB DDR3 to 64 GB DDR4 about 2 years ago. Now we already talking about DDR6 soon :D. Before that I was having DDR3 for like 10 years straight. At least I got a PCIE5x16 slot so if GPUs are gonna need it I'm gonna have it. But NMVEs still gonna just be PCIE4 x4 for me for years to come. Well I still have my 2005 320 GB HDD with low health installed in my new rig as a side storage so I see no problems there.

@samiraperi467 Ай бұрын

Just PCIe. DDR6 isn't happening soon.

@jimkan8215 Ай бұрын

Yup, still on 3.0

@dawnraider0072 Ай бұрын

@@williehrmann DDR3 stopped being current on consumer platforms in 2016. So you may have been running it for much longer than that, but it was not modern for quite that long.

@FastSloth87 Ай бұрын

@@dawnraider0072 My 10 year old DDR3 PC still runs Windows and most games I play very well, I remember things going sluggish much faster and by a giant degree back in the day, maybe it's a Windows Vista era bias, idk.

@robotko_ruslan Ай бұрын

I don't even have pcie 4, and 7 is coming soon? that's crazy

@Xeon451 Ай бұрын

I’m still on PCI-E 3.0 🤣

@FenixQubes Ай бұрын

It felt like PCI-E 3.0 was there for like my whole life, and now every other year there's a new standard. Time flies.

@sierra5065 Ай бұрын

Pcie 5.0 was released back in 2019 and there still isn't a single consumer GPU that uses it. So soon isn't the word I'd use for 7.0

@OrionCV1 Ай бұрын

to be fair pcie 3 and 4 don't really affect fps all that much

@robotko_ruslan Ай бұрын

@@OrionCV1 i looked up some stats on my rtx 3050. On Pcie 4 motherboard it has about 12% higher performance than pcie 3

@epicswordmewz7007 Ай бұрын

PCIe 4 NVME: can run without any cooling 5: Needs a heatsink for full performance 6: Needs a heatsink with a small fan 7: Needs a large heatsink and a 120mm fan 8: Needs an AIO or to be integrated into a cooling loop 9: Needs its own cooling loop with atleast 360mm radiator 10: Needs its own air-conditioning unit outside of your house that it's hooked directly up to

@randomfootages9120 Ай бұрын

PCI 5.0 really needs cooler otherwise it will get overheated and performance will be reduced quickly

@ernieoporto1111 Ай бұрын

PCIe 8.0 slots to require water-cooling and a 1000w PSU for the slot itself.

@madguitarist Ай бұрын

...but still only 75W power delivery via the slot.😉

@sznikers Ай бұрын

Waterblocks for redrivers 😂

@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Ай бұрын

Well thankfully your new $120 per foot, 2 inch thick USB 6.1d/ThunderBolt 11 cable can run the AIO pump. But nothing else. Because it's the cheap one from Amazon Basics.

@portalwalker_ Ай бұрын

Just imagine a future, where motherboards don't even have a Chipset anymore but everything is just connected directly to the CPU with one extremely high speed PCIe lane each

@peterwstacey Ай бұрын

Can't speak for AMD Chipsets, but for Intel this is already the case - DMI is effectively a PCIe-like interface that wraps PCIe, but also other formats like USB, SATA IDE, and even UART - basically all data from the PCH. This is why DMI is written as 4.0x4 - a similar nomenclature to PCIe

@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 Ай бұрын

So kinda like the Apple ones and the new Snapdragon

@adventureoflinkmk2 Ай бұрын

What if you could change a chipset like you can with a cpu

@shanent5793 Ай бұрын

Those are systems-on-chip and have been common for several years, eg. AMD Ryzen and EPYC CPUs

@kreuner11 Ай бұрын

That's called an SoC

@JohnToddTheOriginal Ай бұрын

Yes! Pet the cat. And the dog. You wanted them, now give them love!

@z0phi3l Ай бұрын

I actually pet my cat, again, when it was mentioned, she deserves all the pets

@mrmensa1096 Ай бұрын

My cat gives me disapproving "humms" - when I try to pet her

@SEOdev Ай бұрын

@mrmensa1096 mine has finally started to ask for strokes, it's never on my lap and he never comes ro me but he calls out for them from the other side of the house. I'm sure she'll soften up at some point.

@Run187 Ай бұрын

I lost my lass dog after I had a van accident, she had to be adopted out . I woke up out coma to hear that ..

@z0phi3l Ай бұрын

@@mrmensa1096 The threat of loosing a limb is part of their charm

@myonen4402 Ай бұрын

It's primarily for data center use. They can use an x16 link over wire to interconnect to other blades in a rack. Like a PCI link to a dedicated SAS enclosure or an enclosure loaded with compute etc. moving forward generally expect consumer platforms to be about 2 generations behind enterprise in PCI generations.

@iambenmitchell Ай бұрын

Can’t wait for this to not be useful outside the server space until PCIe 12 is out

@concinnus Ай бұрын

That's unfair...it will also be useful for workstations.

@iambenmitchell Ай бұрын

@@concinnus I doubt it

@MaddJakd Ай бұрын

How awful. Didn't they know they are OBLIGATED to make everything immediately useful for basic folk DAY 0!A!1!!!

@MaddJakd Ай бұрын

@iambenmitchell doubt all you want. Once you move away from pushing pretty pixels, there is a need for the high bandwidth and features afforded by pushing this spec. Hence why it's pushing. While the video games aren't demanding that much, other areas are an entirely different story.

@iambenmitchell Ай бұрын

@@MaddJakd yes. I know that. That is why I said "Outside of the server space" 🤦‍♂

@4RILDIGITAL Ай бұрын

The advancements in PCI Express 7.0 is monumental. However, the application and necessity of such high bandwidth in home PCs is still debatable. The projected release window of around 2027 is quite far. Until then, appreciating the current technology we have seems like the best course of action.

@silvy7394 Ай бұрын

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@4RILDIGITAL Ай бұрын

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@setop123 Ай бұрын

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@amosreginaldjr.4200 Ай бұрын

When did 5 and 6 come out?

@StolenJoker84 Ай бұрын

I believe PCIe 5 is on AM5 and newer Intel chips. PCIe 6 is likely an enterprise thing at this point. We won’t see PCIe 7 anytime soon.

@delfean2666 Ай бұрын

5 exists but they just skipped 6 or it existed only behind closed doors

@RandoWisLuL Ай бұрын

6 was announced in 2019 and 7 in 2022

@HontoNeet Ай бұрын

5 wasn't released outside of Japan because they thought it was too difficult, and 6 was actually localized as "3" (this is a Final Fantasy joke, I have no earthly idea why the PCIe standard is so far ahead of what people can actually buy)

@CynHicks Ай бұрын

@HontoNeet It makes sense when you think about it. It's always been ahead to some degree. If you were planning a city and anticipating a lot of growth you'd make the highways wider than immediately needed.

@Shinchan1221 Ай бұрын

Hope it runs Subway Surfers at 60fps on my $5000 gaming PC

@mrkcrtr508 Ай бұрын

maybe if you turn off ray tracing

@Zvxers7 Ай бұрын

@@mrkcrtr508not enough, might need to turn on frame gen 4.3

@LittleMopeHead Ай бұрын

$3000 of that is the GPU *sigh*

@oladrolahola Ай бұрын

Of course, just need to check the monitor's settings...

@patrickm.4469 Ай бұрын

Fortnite is still going to run like garbage

@AZACKAL Ай бұрын

The cats face at the end with the shopped on smile killed me lol

@Aragorn7884 Ай бұрын

Yeah, but...can it run *Crysis?* 😏

@Aragorn7884 Ай бұрын

@@Tanks_In_Space Is this memes?

@tiestofalljays Ай бұрын

I feel like PCI Express 4.0 just came out.

@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 13 күн бұрын

basically may as well as next years graphics cards will just start needing them, at least the one/s better than the 4090 desktop lol.

@ThePhilGrimm Ай бұрын

You surprised me with the optical rather than copper suggestion. That could expand the possibilites in all sorts of ways if they can figure out how to do it at a price point.

@icecremer Ай бұрын

Literally just bought a new PC, and got myself a nice, small, and fast PCIe 4.0 SSD after using an actual hard drive for almost a decade. And now there's PCIe 7?!

@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 13 күн бұрын

apparently for home use a gen 4 is even still way above and beyond what's needed as the rtx 4090 just barely fully utilizes a gen 3.

@AndrewMorris-wz1vq Ай бұрын

The optical link was the first I was looking up during this video lol Being able to expand connections with a rack to maybe even inter rack level is huge for some types of computations! Exciting stuff to see for sure!

@ulrichkalber9039 Ай бұрын

16 lanes PCIE 3.0 = 1 Lane PCIE 7.0

@wossle73 Ай бұрын

😉My Cat, Went OUTSIDE, when You said PCIe 7.0!🤣🤣🤣

@vladislavkaras491 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the news!

@dominicelis8331 Ай бұрын

cats DO need love. It' not just all about the dogs.

@TSRB87 Ай бұрын

So are we going to get a redesign of m.2 because at 5.0 speeds their getting a little toasty at 7.0 i now see why there was all these nvme water coolers at computex

@lucth16 Ай бұрын

That creepy AI video @<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="210">3:30</a>

@Bombingham Ай бұрын

I didn't even know 6.0 was out lol

@marcus_cole_2 Ай бұрын

PCI Express 7.0 will likely be used for neural processing units (NPUs) on local computers, allowing users to buy specialty cards for that purpose. These NPUs will be at the top of the PCI Lane motherboard layout, with the GPU lane underneath. As AI and AGI continue to advance, people will want self-contained units for tasks ranging from video editing and overlaying to full-on Jarvis-like capabilities. Alternatively, PCI Express 7.0 might be dedicated to external boxes handling AI, AGI, and GPU units through fiber-optic or proprietary plugs. The average computer, with a GPU and basic NPU, currently takes up 4 to 5 card slots, making it challenging to utilize all PCIe slots efficiently.

@bocahdongo7769 Ай бұрын

Just add more lane, like you know, AM5 eventually did add. Much more easier, cheaper, and possible than pouring extra money to speed up the development for consumer grade and make consumer deal with the 100% extra price on top of already overpriced motherboard. If you concern dies are getting big, you can shove dual arm retention bracket that Xeon already used from 15 years ago.

@markusTegelane Ай бұрын

here i'm chilling with PCIe 4.0

@RandoWisLuL Ай бұрын

im here chilling with PCEe 3.0 and DDR3

@TitanRocks619 Ай бұрын

@@RandoWisLuL me too 😀

@RandoWisLuL Ай бұрын

@@TitanRocks619 haha nice

@urdsama06 Ай бұрын

@@RandoWisLuL Me too 😁

@geminitheavali5018 Ай бұрын

meanwhile chilling here with PCIe 2.0 & DDR3

@-Bill. Ай бұрын

I'm using PCI-E 3, works fine

@Clobercow1 Ай бұрын

This is very good for everything. Fewer lanes, smaller slots, to do the same work. GPU on a 2x PCI-E 7.0 slow sounds weird, but totally do-able leaving lanes for other uses, maybe even bringing back dual GPU's.

@6XGate Ай бұрын

The idea of RAM through the expansion bus sounds so 1970s (think IBM 5150/8088). But I suspect expect it's going to act more like how the Amiga functioned with fast and slow RAM, just not for the same architectural reasons.

@TatsuZZmage Ай бұрын

Isn't that what the swap file is slow ram?

@myne00 Ай бұрын

Ram cards have existed on and off several times. Last onei heard of was in the ddr2 era

@SuperSmashDolls Ай бұрын

In order for any component to be usable as RAM in a system, it needs to be on a system bus that can answer memory requests, and that bus needs to operate at very high speeds. Modern CPUs don't have a single generic system bus for both external hardware and memory devices; instead they have PCIe, DDR, and other pinouts. Only the DDR bus will actually show up to software as RAM. Other storage devices are incompatible; not only are they too slow, but they also work with data at the wrong size. e.g. DDR5 is two 32-bit data channels, but hard drives work with data in 4096-byte chunks that have to be read or written all at once. Swapfiles are how you get around this limitation, by having OS code manually juggle data between slow storage devices and fast memory devices that the CPU can natively access.

@RepChris Ай бұрын

@@TatsuZZmage the swap file, as the name suggests, is a file, not actual RAM. Its used to swap out sections of RAM with memory on the disk if your tasks need more RAM than you actually have. It doenst have the "Random Access" of Random Access Memory, but yeah in a certain sense it is (very very slow) RAM. Not by the proper definition of RAM of course, but it is part of the virtual memory the OS manages. Technically the swap file memory isnt even ever actually directly accessed, it just gets swapped back into the RAM, with another part of RAM being put in the swapfile instead.

@michaelsegel8758 Ай бұрын

Interesting. I'd say its not just memory but sub systems for persisting data. You'd cache the data in memory that then moves it to the NVMe drives. This would work in composable system designs. For home use? There are a couple of use cases.

@brandonedwards7166 Ай бұрын

I'm tired of most motherboards being limited to 16 pcie lanes and splitting them between all the slots. By the time I add a GPU, Dual 10gb, and a HBA as well as a couple NVME my GPU is bottle necked.

@OctavioGaitan Ай бұрын

The question is, will it still be backwards compatible with older PCI Express stuff?

@TrioLOLGamers Ай бұрын

Optical fiber? That can be a good thing if it becomes reality. Imagine not having the issue of fixing your GPU to the case, the possibility to hot swap GPU like a big PSU box...

@cinderwolf32 Ай бұрын

I think you already can hot swap GPU like that, even with pcie 3.0

@TrioLOLGamers Ай бұрын

@@cinderwolf32 yeah, but the connector is really big and more of a lane than a connector, with a plug you'll be able to move the GPU everywhere. Yeah, there are exteenal GPUs for mobile, but not for desktops

@bocahdongo7769 Ай бұрын

@@TrioLOLGamers PCIE optical extension already exist, like any hardware PC enthusiast dream of. The problem is It's only for enterprise and PC community keep expecting enterprise grade hardware with fast food cost.

@BlueEyedVibeChecker Ай бұрын

Here's a list of all the peripherals that support different PCI-e generations. PCI-e Generation: 3: GPU, storage, extra ports, adapter cards 4: GPU, storage, extra ports, adapter cards 5: 6: (Does this one even exist? 7: Personally I don't get the point other than "In theory, this multi-hundred dollar upgrade will be worth something in ten years time when the first GPU to support it comes out, so give us more money".

@LRK-GT Ай бұрын

Gen 5, 6, and 7 at the moment are not really meant 'for consumers'. Even consumer-available Gen5 PCIe x4 NVMe SSDs, are (IMHO) only 'a value' for for-profit content creators, media professionals, and high resolution photographers, etc. People who are making money, and are losing it waiting on data to on-/off-load from a drive. 'Big Data' and the growth/integration of 'AI' in business is what's driving wider and faster interconnects; we get 'the trickle-down'. The amount of data needing to be processed and stored is orders of magnitude larger than anything us home users/gamers would ever see.

@silversonic1 Ай бұрын

Ya know, I'm glad someone else also thought about using the potential of using multiple voltages to send more data. I'd considered it since around the first time I heard about people trying to use DNA in processors.

@Nostalgia_Realm Ай бұрын

Probably should wait for PCI-e 7 SP1 before switching over :)

@Melechtna Ай бұрын

Huh, could this possibly rebirth ram cards and do away with the need for ram card slots? That might be a really cool way to reduce the number of slots needed to a motherboard.

@WillCMAG 23 күн бұрын

I wrote this before the ad break. From the sound of it it looks like PCIE is pushing towards becoming a new vesion SCSI standard acting as a back plane. It wouldn't surprise me if we see PCIE used as a cpu interconnect. Intel is working on a optical cpu link as well or they might be done with it already.

@FireCestina1200 Ай бұрын

I have heard about PCIe Gen 5 in a video of LTT for the 14Go/s Nvme. But I didn't even know gen 6 was out only to found out there's geb 7 ?

@CosmoSlicer Ай бұрын

PCIE 8.0 will be even crazier!

@MisterMarin Ай бұрын

PCI Express slot: My frequency has doubled since the last time we met, Processor. CPU: Good. Twice the frequency, double the speed!

@ChrisGrump Ай бұрын

I am still on pci 3. Cant even imagine why i would need more.

@seanjacobs4723 Ай бұрын

I only have PCie 4 and they already coming out with 7. 😮

@learnalanguagewithleslie Ай бұрын

Yeah in researching what new motherboard to get (with PCIe 5) I heard about this version 7.🥴

@latebloomer2 Ай бұрын

Already PCIE 7.0... Well my 2013 PC is still suitable for 99% of what I need.

@ohiocitydave 14 күн бұрын

Who’s going to make the mini-AiOs we’re going to eventually need for every component so they don’t melt through our motherboards? They’re going to be so cute. All those little tubes and radiators stuck above their little pumps.

@theslimbin Ай бұрын

PCIe feels like it went from a consumer standard to an industrial standard really quickly

@alexanderbelov6892 Ай бұрын

Optics has huge latency, so it can be justified only on distances higher than 100m (0.1km). The only option that may work is transmission line for electromagnetics waves implemented like some kind of coaxial cable on PCB (one transmission line per copper wire on PCB).

@gsestream Ай бұрын

at those speeds, you dont need separate memory interfaces, pci-e 7 is the memory interface. I remembet that rtx 4000 series memory bandwidth is something like 500GB/s. bit or bytes, make it clear. B can be bits or bytes. small or large.

@Ultrajamz Ай бұрын

Can’t wait for my nvidia gpu to block all my pcie slots anyway because its so huge

@darkkrafter Ай бұрын

Yes this is what my factorio mega base needs

@lasvista2tech Ай бұрын

what we havent even fully done pcie5 yet

@Anxiou5Panda Ай бұрын

I haven't even heard of 5 and 6 and we're now at 7.

@moortu Ай бұрын

I'l finally be able to send a REEAAAALLYYYYYYYYY high quality cat photo, really fast

@IFD2 Ай бұрын

Why does it jump from 4-7?

@LRK-GT Ай бұрын

It didn't. 5.0's been out on desktop and server for awhile now. 6.0 has limited deployment in-industry.

@__--JY-Moe--__ Ай бұрын

hair looks great gramps!

@CaptDust Ай бұрын

Loved on my cat, thanks for the reminder

@sapunjavimacor Ай бұрын

damn, i gotta keep up i'm still on PCI-E 2.0

@earthtaurus5515 Ай бұрын

We'd need a heatsink the size of a case I guess? Joking aside at this point we'll need AIOs for NVMEs lol lol....

@Oddlot0930 Ай бұрын

At what point do we forego DIMM slots and just use PCIE for RAM?

@graemepennell Ай бұрын

Riley, who killed the 3rd pin @1.27 on the led jumper block...

@GEEKOMPC Ай бұрын

really shocked!

@wolfrig2000 Ай бұрын

With PCIE 7.0 is that speed fast enough to use a CPU in a PCIE slot? Possibly have a mobo thats just all PCIE slots?

@Dominus4776 Ай бұрын

I'll wait for pci 16.0

@NotReallyLaraCroft Ай бұрын

What, there are PCIE 5 and 6 already? I'm still using a 3.0 board with a 3060

@immnlshn Ай бұрын

I actually just had a lecture today about parallel programming with graphic cards. And the low bandwidth of pcie rn is a huge bottleneck. I'm curious how this will impact cloud computing or as you said data centers.

@brugj03 Ай бұрын

PCI Express 7.0 getting hyped up over something that`s already faster than fast enough.

@robertobokarev439 Ай бұрын

PCI-E 69.0 will probably use diamond or fullerite for data transmission

@jarvisstark3987 Ай бұрын

we got pci 7.0 annoucement before pci 6.0 wild

@haloharry97 6 күн бұрын

my current pc is PCIE 4 my last pc used PCIE 2 I wonder if my next pc will skip to PCIE 6?

@Johnnyynf Ай бұрын

Still living in PCIE 3 world gang🙋

@aliaxundoff7172 Ай бұрын

That is amazing

@GhanashyamSateesh Ай бұрын

Riley, you forgot to mention the fact that external GPUs could hugely benefit from this. As you know eGPUs are limited to 4 lanes and gen 7 4 lanes equals gen 5 16 lanes! Heck yeah!!! Maybe the traditional desktop form factor will be dead and the thin & light PCs are the future 😮🤯

@V1N_574 Ай бұрын

$500 budget MOBO coming soon boyyyy

@magicmanchloe Ай бұрын

More like $1500 this is server only for now

@octia2817 Ай бұрын

They just keep doing a 2x speed increase every generation. That's it, pretty much. And it's wild every time

@bokami3445 Ай бұрын

Currently we don't have anything that requires PCI v7 speeds but we WILL. I hope I'm around long enough to see that. We live in exciting times...

@faenethlorhalien Ай бұрын

Sounds good.

@codyhake1932 Ай бұрын

Doesn't signal integrity also depend on the software that deciphers it? Say, the faster piece of software can interpret a signal, the more that "signal" can hold? Like say, 8 Track vs Stereo Casette? Both using a magnetic film roll, both having different capabilitie because of the hardware that uses them? Like, doesnt it go both ways? Isn't that why GPUs no longer really saturate the lanes?

@tronosgamingwizard Ай бұрын

With PCI-E 7.0 being out, is all good. Yet there's no sign of PCI-E 5.0 GPUs (at the moment). tho they'd have to firstly up the Bus width to like 1024-bit

@mahmoudibrahim1320 Ай бұрын

Your expressions in the last pet comment reminded me of those of Jim Carrey .....ever thought of acting (other than KZfaq videos)

@Richdadful 19 күн бұрын

7.0. I had 4.0 and I thought its just 1 generation back than 5.0. But we are have PCIe 7.0. When did 6.0 came?

@PhoenixNL72-DEGA- Ай бұрын

"Why is there a need for that much bandwidth?" Me: Probably for letting the next generations of GPUs/AI Neural Networking Cards talk to one another

@Targetlockon Ай бұрын

PCIe 10.0 coming soon 😂

@chaosfenix Ай бұрын

You missed the best benefit that this can mean for consumers. Using fewer lanes. It has 8x the bandwidth which means that a 4090 could be kept fed with only 2 PCIE lanes. Given that consumer boards only have 24 PCIE lanes coming off the CPU and 4 of those going to the chipset being able to dedicate only 1-2 lanes per device means you could actually connect a ton more devices in a standard consumer computer. With these faster speeds I would love for x16 slots to fall out of favor and for us to drop down to x4 slots for devices like GPUs and down to x1 slots for storage. They are already overheating trying to reach 16GBps. 32GBps which is the x1 speed of PCIE 7.0 will be plenty for storage.

@bocahdongo7769 Ай бұрын

Good luck finding AM5 motherboard that both cheap and has x8/x8 split PCIE

@chaosfenix Ай бұрын

@@bocahdongo7769 Yes my comments are forward looking considering AM5 is only PCIE 5.0. This is what I would like for them to do with future consumer boards.

@Szklana147 Ай бұрын

We need more PCI-e lines and more PCI-e m.2 slots.

@bcredeur97 Ай бұрын

I want to start seeing x4 and x8 gpu’s and x1/x2 nvmes So I can have more devices that use fewer lanes

@LRK-GT Ай бұрын

Protip: NVMe (and most PCIe) devices will function w/ less lanes. [I used to run Solidigm P41+ 4.0 drives in X570's 4.0x1 slots] -Optane M10s were Gen3x2, 990Evo is Gen5x2 -RX 6500series were 4.0x4 (M.2 adaptation invitation, IMO) + a myriad of GPUs are x8 (reaching back at least into the RX5*0 series)

@JustFun598 Ай бұрын

PCIe 6.0: Ok guys, fu** off!!! What`s the point in releasing me? Let me live a bit

@BlackEagle352 Ай бұрын

Sorry, you're too fast for gamers. But too slow for data centers

@motoryzen Ай бұрын

At this point what is the point of even advertised newer PCI Express gen items? We don't even have PCI Express 6 generation motherboards available for sale to the masses yet last I recall

@lifigrugru6396 Ай бұрын

My question for what do i need this? its a l'art pour l'art project?

@tosemusername 20 күн бұрын

Yeah. I'll probably be excited about this.. 10 years from now.

@Kiyuja Ай бұрын

Now that we actually use stuff like GPU decompression and ReBAR, we can actually can take advantage of higher bandwidth of PCI-E. To be honest tho, to truly take advantage of Gen 5 and beyond we need more CPU lanes and chipsets.

@yezakd 20 күн бұрын

I wonder if PCI-E 7.0 is enough bandwidth to bring back SLI without the need for a bridge.

@Mihnea729 Ай бұрын

Sure !

@rexquinton2nd457 Ай бұрын

Riley, this particular outro stung me exceptionally hard. I just lost my dog, I got back after work and he was just dead there. He died alone and probably in pain. Instead of being there for him I was trying to fight inflation. All i have left is being super depressed and everything is just as expensive. I wish I would have spent five more minutes rubbing his belly. ❤

@Respectable_Username Ай бұрын

I'm so sorry for your loss 🫂

@arklanuthoslin Ай бұрын

Sincerely, my deepest sympathies.