Wow, it's great to see you on youtube and commenting. I *love* telling people about how great you are as a bassist and use this song as an example. You definitely inspire me as a bassist!

😍🤩

Love you with Steven Wilson , He's no fool . You are a amazing part of the band !

One of the best memories of my tween years.

Thanks for helping me survive my childhood. ❤

Absolutely!

I'm a big Duran Duran and John Taylor fan, and a bass player but, technically, he's not in the same league as Nick Beggs.

I've seen Nick Beggs play with Iona ( Jazz / Celtic / Prog / Fusion ) a few times. Great musician !

JT, divine! 💜

I taught him everything he knows about bass 🔊 😌

He still is! ❤

I can only think of Mick Khan from Japan he was quite good Glen Matlock Pistols solid bassist don't forget Mr Beggs was at the age of too young for the 70 s he was of his age 21 early 1980 s excellent to hear he still plays well

@@65Antonis… for example with the mighty Steven Wilson!

​@@enduser63Mick Karn "quite good" lol

I just discovered this channel today, and I was just going to comment about John Taylor but you beat me to it. I remember reading that Bernard Edwards of CHIC was his biggest influence and if you don't know the bass riff from GOOD TIMES by CHIC, then you just don't care about a good bass line. I also think Bernard Edwards willed one of his favorite basses to John Taylor after he passed.

Love love love John Taylor. The bass line on Rio is truly epic

@@babybear9740 I was about to say the same.

That is a MEAN and epic bass line. The bass makes the whole song.

Whenever people talk about pop / yacht rock bass lines from the 80s, it's either this one or Rio that they mean.

Absolutely right. If you HAVE to play some pop... Start on pop when you're very young. Then NEVER look back. Never play it except for a laugh: remember when we played this? Pop is poison. Classical is the growth medium, Prog is the goal.

@TheUprightLuthier-1959 what a laughingly and disappointingly small minded view

@@phillymopwater Your fallacious observation was proven false over 2000 years ago. Reductio ad absurdum is one of several apagogical arguments with too many exceptions to count rendering the statement false without additional claims. I'm laughing at you. Pop is short for popular (in case your small mind lacks the prerequisites) Popular is the lowest common denominator (same) where music is made for the expressed purpose of appealing to the most different people with different tastes and different cultures. You have to remove elements of composition, that are too complex for the simple-minded (like you) to appreciate. Remove anything; from alternate time signatures, discordant melodies, counter melodies, progressions. You have to stick to cookie-cutter recipes, with familiar form and chords, add a hook and throw it against the wall to see if it sticks. Make a thousand more and you might have an album. We call it "selling out". Prostitution. OR: The music biz. My view is that of a retired professional, my advice is normally expensive, only an idiot would not appreciate it for free. I was in what is now called a boy band in college, I played in an american philharmonic for 30 years, I am now in a symphonic metal band. The structure still has me learning, practicing, getting better, and enjoying the music. If I had to play ANYTHING LESS, I would drink bleach. Pop is determined by the ignorant. They wouldn't know QUALITY if it bit them on the ass.

@and321now Throw Beggs Chapman playing into the mix!

Idk he comes off as a little pretentious... I guess that's because he's English lol

Well said, Rob. And I agree.

And this was from a teeny bopper band lol. They as well as lots of other British pop bands from the 80s were schooled in music. Can't say the same when we hit the 90s lol

100 THIS

Probably because the music as a whole was quite corny. This track rather sucks, except for the good bits focused on here in this video.

The musicians in many synth based bands are top quality. All of Duran Duran are accomplished musicians. I don't like all their stuff but Ordinary World has a unique, complicated chord structure rarely found in rock music. It's amazing.

Don't forget Mick Karn of Japan!

​@@forwardsdrawkcabyou're crazy. This song is crazy dope.

@@forwardsdrawkcab I disagree I think the song is great and catchy. You think too technical and not enough emotionally, which is how a song should relate.

I agree. Nick Beggs, John Taylor, Mark King, and also the Stock Aitken Waterman trio made fantastic bass lines.

On point with those 2....although most people with a little more than average interest in music would recognize Mark King's bass skills as phenomenal. Simple minds' drummer.....oh hell yes he's great! Never heard him get much credit....but he's a beast.

I remember reading an article a out mel gaynor from simple minds in the 80s describing him as the best drummer in the world at that time

Mark King is a Legend all across the world!! Facts!

Yeah, no-one forgot Mark King and his incredible thumb.

Ah yes - Level 42 - if memory serves, Mark (King) was one of the (very) few to be offered/given an Alembic. Sweet!

Really? What’s his rating??

@@jumpinjojo 98

So if I rate him high does that still make hime underrated? Stuppid remark

I love the bassline in the live version of Index.

Came here to say this. Love his stuff with Wilson!

Not because you didn’t know him that he’s underrated, simply.

He was voted best bass Prog rock musician for 5 years straight. Wake up.

Tony Levin left his Chapman Stick at my house a week ago and I think I could give them both a run for their money now. Nothing about my comment is based in truth.

My wife tossed a bra at Nick Beggs at a Steven Wilson concert while he was playing the stick and singing backing vocals… he smirked and didn’t miss a note

@@finnmcginn9931 A Great Joke that I will pass on to Tony Levin if/when I see him again at one of the local Bars here in Kingston NY where I live about 25 blocks or so from Tony Levins nice old Colonial House. Tony grew up here and is just another local yokal. A very nice educated Man. People who grew up in small towns are more grounded in life I should think.

@@finnmcginn9931 of course Tony Levin is a colossus player in his own right. Besides the Chapman Stick, there's the Funky Fingers

@@finnmcginn9931 you're Tony Levin's barber, aren't you???

No he wasn't.

@@MohammedSinghar jealous?

@@russisaac813 i mean i dont agree he was overlooked, he was in every BASS magazine for years.... sure maybe teen boppers don't know who he is, but bassists do... i dunno, maybe he was.. have a nice weekend

Oh... why... oh.... why... did you remind us of THAT!!!??? Cruelty I say!! Cruelty!!

@@keithmurray9241 Reminds me of back when they started playing the 80's stuff on the "oldies" station. It was a slap in the face as to how much time had gone by.

​@@scottdaniels8129....no time has gone by......😂 We are moving, changing, adapting but time is eternal.... ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

Same for me.

Kaja gaa gaa Kaja goo goo?

Hah! I actually contacted him for lessons

Whereabouts is he?

it's pretty dope!!

He is, I love him ❤

That’s what he’s doing with these videos

I think they were promoted as a "boy band" or whatever the term was back then but I can remember Nick Beggs being interviewed in serious music magazines. Nick Kershaw was popular around the same time and he's a very proficient musician but the music press ignored that.

@@geoffpoole483 yes, Kershaw, too. agreed.

I keep telling my friends that Kajagoogoo had an avant garde edge, but they insist that they are a generic sounding 80s pop band, and that I’m just trying to be unique. Too bad that they can’t see what we see.

Image was the BIG thing at the time. It was crucial a band looked outrageously glamorous on stage. This was at the precise moment in time when it started to become too exaggerated to the point of ridiculous. It may have fed the pop-star mania but it also turned people off the musicianship. Nick's look was too much for many, I'm sure he wanted fame and fortune over being recognised as being a good musician. I did think at the time, this guy was talented. Howard Jones is a great musician as is Nick Kershaw.

Frayo has a mind-bendingly good bass solo as well

Yessss!!

SAMEZIES

Yay, we’re all besties.

Same!

Thanks for the heads up! I thought this guy was a producer, but this band smokes.

Nick’s a great dude too. You can’t go wrong with anything he’s played on.

I was looking for this comment. Mr. Beggs amazing Chapman Stick right into Guthrie Govan's guitar solo on 'Regret #9' is the stuff of legends.

Re: Steven Wilson, I was thinking the same thing.

It didn't quite get it exactly but it's certainly nice. Here is Nick playing it live you can see some differences. Still a great review. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrSGrM-FqMuZfY0.html

That was Mark King wasn’t it.

@@kevinstoneham1245 yep!

Ahhhhhh yes...Something About You..,another killin' it bass line from the 80s. This was one of my favorite songs from that era. Used to think myself "dancing my azz off" to this song back then🤣😂Mark King was the f'ing man in those days. 👊🏾👍🏾

Level 42 weren't underrated! They were the dog's bollocks at the time! Mark King was a household name.

Worth noting that Nick Beggs sang while playing too and he was pretty bonkers at it. Huge Mark King fan too.

Exactly the comment I was checking for, before making it myself 😊. No doubt great bass player but the Taylor/Rhodes sound is all over it.

Synth sound similarities from Steve Askew, yes. Probably...but similarities from the bass? Nope. Nick's bass was nowhere near John's. I'm a Duran Duran fan too...the fact that Nick Rhodes found this group was simply because they're different. CMIIW, Wally Badarou was also present right? He's also present in Level 42 album productions.

Nick Beggs said once that they wanted to sound like Duran Duran, in terms of musical maturity. Their blueprint.

I did not know this.

Colin Thurston also produced Whits Feathers.

The interlude would’ve sounded better if he played a double octave.

Bro, it was the contrary for me! Nick Beggs started me up on picking up the bass! He's got the smoothest basslines ever. (the guitar and piano was a bit confusing to me at the time. With all those chords and all...Lol)

I picked up bass for the first time a couple of years ago, after twenty of playing guitar and dabbling in keys, and this is probably the channel that most influenced me in realizing it is, hands down, the coolest instrument. The understated passion in every video is compelling.

Agreed!!

I started taking bass seriously in the early 90's and was lucky to know a bassist whose approach to music was as wide and deep as pdbass. As a rock bassist, that guy I met inspired me to go way beyond playing the root notes & fifths. And it's also good to know that pdbass' name is Paul. 😅

His name is Nick Beegs,…I’ve been studying him for years,…If you want to here some Madness,..get the album White Feathers,…only above average bass players can handle those songs!

I couldn't have said it better mate. Cheers from the States! Happy New Year.

Bass player lead singer from Level 42 is great. I’m sorry I forgot his name.

@@markusantonio4866 Mark King

same here, 52yo and still rocking with a 5 strings! Thanks to Nick Beggs, among others (John Taylor but also Geddy Lee or Johnny Myung...) Cheers from a swiss bass guy

Ok...we all know that white boys can't jump. However, white boys can thump the crap out of a bass line if your name is Nick Beggs. I'm 68 years old, Black and I've been playing bass with a pick and my thumb for 53 years. After hearing "Too Shy" back in the day, the only thing I could pick was my ass and thumb my nose to people..... ....."Badass Beggs"!!!

a word that screams 80s? I say: gay-ass-sex

Did you catch Nick playing with John Paul Jones a while back? That was cool.

80's reigns supreme!!

ABC "Lexicon Of Love" is a phenomenal album with some incredible basslines by Mark Lickley (fretted) and Brad Lang (fretless),,,,its a near perfect pop album - like a dance-pop version of ELO's "Eldorado" lol

@@Rib13Bass I don't often find myself saying this, but I completely agree. It was a masterpiece of music and music production, not least due to the efforts of producer / engineer extraordinaire, Trevor Horn.

Joy Div/New Order, some Depeche Mode (personal Jesus & l feel you are great).. But Kaja Gugu? The joke use to be.. If U wore jeans that are so tight.. itd KajaGugus I'd understand Killing Joke, Cave etc.. but not the sugar coated droll shite dished out weekly.

I also saw him on tour with the Steve Hackett band in Norway a few years ago. My friend spent the first half of the concert asking me who the leggy blonde with black leather skirt and bass guitar was. (We had seats a good distance from the stage - I'll give him that 🤣 ) I held him in suspense until he googled the band members ... But it was a great gig, and I have listened to quite a lot of Nick's solo work after that. A really brilliant musician, and as you say; his great performance suited the old Genesis classics as well as Steve's solo material without being "flashy" and trying to show off in any way. A concert to remember!

The way he sits at the bass pedals playing them with his fists during Shadow of the Hierophant was so damn cool

@@JohnnyTronny19841 I don't think he used that trick on the gig I saw - that must have been on an earlier tour ... But I've seen it later on video and have to agree it looks pretty cool (and a bit "flashy" as well, I have to admit .. 😅)

@@attepotterrmmefiremerkersm68 yeah! To me it just added to the dramatic feeling of that track - felt like it went along with how I feel about the track...ominous, heavy, foreboding, majestic, etc

Saw them in NYC opening for King Crimson

@Mark T Collins that was the :thunder thief" tour

I recorded the boston show and shared it everywhere on all the cdr trading sites.

He was playing in the type of band whose musical abilities were often overlooked. He's also pretty good at playing the Chapman Stick.

He’s rated exactly where he belongs.

@@jumpinjojo 100 times better musician than you, that's for sure!

@@RARDingo Oh course. I’m not a bass player. 🤣🤣

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@@leonidasrosales9315 salud!

whoa, didnt know the steve wilson connection...

Same here!

Very well said!

Everyone you listed is great, but Mick Karn has always stood apart from many other bassist. No one sounded like him before, during or really after. His sound and technique was in my opinion truly unique and instantly recognizable.

@@carriersignal Bang on! My bass idol...

and John Taylor

Karn - greatest pop bassist of all time.

Check out Bassist John Ferrara from Consider The Source, and more recently doing some solo releases and side projects too.

Agreed! Mick Karn was a beast!

Mick Karn was amazing. The stuff he did with David Torn was awesome. However, I'm pretty sure I read that Karn didn't even know who Pastorius was until after Japan had become well known. I think he has acknowledged Percy Jones as an influence.

@@davidevans6514 He really was a great player and this can often be the case, not knowing musicians like Jaco, until later. Just depends on your musical exposure. I was into everything, it helped having an older brother who turned me onto all the great bands and musicians. I saw Japan live twice, fantastic. Percy Jones is a tremendous player.

@@matthew4694 without doubt. He had the cool movements on stage too. I wonder if that was anything to do with Jaco’s cool swagger and dance style.

Mick Karn was exemplary, such an understated man and gifted as a sculptor too. I really like his work with Pete Murphy in Dalis Car, for me even better than Japan.