Have you considered using a weak link in the line made from a smaller cross section string, such as monofilament fishing line? It's available in many sizes. The test strength is typically a bit under the actual strength but by how much varies by manufacturer. Knots reduce the strength, using a wrap around something with a reasonable radius keeps most of the strength and would keep things more consistent. The 3D printed weak link is a cool idea, but I suspect you may get some inconsistent annoying fatigue failures using the out of plane tensile strength of the material with such small section.
@harrisonlow5 ай бұрын
This is a great idea! I could use the string that I was originally using for all my actuators (kevlar kite string) as it has a breaking strength of ~70N which is exactly what I'm after. I think for now I'll stick with the printed fuses and see if I have any issues with them. If I do, I reckon I'll swap to your idea. This is the best fuse idea I've seen yet!
@yeroca4 ай бұрын
For quick power connect/disconnect, you might consider barrel connectors. There are wireable female and male versions of these.
@harrisonlow4 ай бұрын
Do you mean banana connectors? My cursory search suggests they're not rated for the full power I'm currently using (45 V @ up to 12.5 A), and I like having plugs that are overspecced for everything I might be doing. As it happens, the XT60s have been really easy to modify to make them more separable, just using a pair of pliers! I'll explain in the next stream 😊
@yeroca4 ай бұрын
@@harrisonlowNot banana plugs. Barrel connectors are coaxial, but yeah a 12.5A one would have to be a pretty large diameter. I'll look around a bit.
@yeroca4 ай бұрын
@@harrisonlowIt seems quick connect in this voltage/current range aren't common. I know it sounds lame, but one possibility would be to use standard AC electrical connectors, at least until you get out of the prototype stage. Those can typically handle 240V at 15A.
@yeroca4 ай бұрын
You might get finer control of the breaking strength by using a smaller nozzle, like 0.2mm, which would double the number lines to needed to make the same diameter.
@harrisonlow4 ай бұрын
Very interesting! I don't think I'll try this myself though; I rue having to change the nozzle on my printer and haven't changed it from 0.6 in years. Such a pain to do! Someone on Zulip suggested trying lower print temps to allow a large diameter (and hence more perimeters) at the same breaking strength. In theory, more perimeters = more repeatability, so I wonder if this might achieve the same effect? 🤔 Cheers for the idea!
@joewalp5 ай бұрын
Soldering larger wires requires delivering power quickly to the weld. Lots of electronics soldering irons can't deliver sufficient heat flux. In that case, a mechanical connection is the way to go. Roughly in the order of increasing price for connecting stranded copper, your options include: (1) twist together; connect via a copper split bolt; wrap with electrical tape .. (2) crimp ring terminals or lugs; connect via a bolt or a bus bar .. (3) attach mechanical lugs; connect via a bolt or a bus bar .. (4) (for marine applications) apply Noalox; connect via an insulated multitap wire connector. All of this hardware can be purchased at an electrical supply store or an online industrial supply retailer. In the US, Grainger tends to be convenient. For reference, see the following path in their online catalog: Electrical > Electrical Connectors & Wiring Devices > Wire Connectors, Terminals & Terminal Blocks.
@harrisonlow5 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for writing this up! I had no idea some of things things existed and it's very helpful to have this all spelled out for me. I think I'll give a busbar a go and hopefully that fixes these issues (or at least makes it easier to see what might be going wrong). Cheers 😊
@joewalp5 ай бұрын
@@harrisonlow Glad to help. I admire your relentlessness.
@hankb77255 ай бұрын
It reminds me of how Carlos Alcaraz or Roger Federer catch the ball with the racket. Sounds like that's what you were looking to do. It looks like they move to meet the ball and once they make contact, they quickly slow down. so you probably never have to be going faster than the ball, only be going the same speed as it makes contact.
@fox25_fpv195 ай бұрын
XT-60 advice: you could try to compress the pins in the male side with plyers. There are slits in the pins that you can stick a screwdriver into to expand the pins if its to loose, and you can make them more loose by just compressing them
@harrisonlow5 ай бұрын
I'll give this a go - thanks!
@harrisonlow4 ай бұрын
Just tried this and it worked a treat! I wasn't expecting so much of the grip force to be from the pins but tweaking the pins has made this much better. Cheers for this suggestion 😊
@jonbeno99265 ай бұрын
I'd be interested in seeing the physics simulation. I'll get over to Zulip and reach out. I've done some system modeling but have an interest in doing more of this. The compliant hand is definitely a cool thought, though the impedance of the hand is something to consider. If you can get the hand impedance (reflected linear inertia) close to the ball, then this would work great. Depending on the hand gear ratio, you may have quite a bit more inertia in the hand, and the ball will want to bounce off before it can accelerate the hand. Some damping will be very helpful in getting stable catches, I'm thinking bean bags vs rubber bouncy balls. It's a fun problem, perhaps a 1 DOF test stand to toss vertically would be helpful to test ideas. Assuming the hand impedance is low enough, then trying some ideas with controller gains to improve catching would be good. I think gain scheduling through the catch to the throw should be sufficient to avoid mode transition.
@harrisonlow5 ай бұрын
Nice! Definitely message us on Zulip. The best place for this would probably just be General > Random and that way Josh will see your messages as well and will be able to help with any debugging necessary. All the code can be found on github (link in this stream's description) 😊 I agree a 1 DOF test will be critical in getting this system tuned well. Also thanks for this writeup! You've used some useful terminology here that I wasn't familiar with so now I have a better idea of what to Google / ChatGPT 😁 Cheers!
@Ziraya05 ай бұрын
Instead of having beefy wires joined in a big harness, it would be more reliable and flexible to have a couple of bus bars, or bridged terminal blocks, with separate wires for each destination as well as the source
@harrisonlow5 ай бұрын
Yep, I think you're right here. Now just to re-do that wiring for the nth time! 😂
@frollard5 ай бұрын
58:00 xt connectors are a little stiff, but should easily come apart by hand. That seems to be a cheap-choice problem.
@harrisonlow5 ай бұрын
Good to know! I'll put "not cheap xt60s" on my shopping list. Cheers for the confirmation!
@DMSparky5 ай бұрын
Nice lash splice 😄 were you inspired by the NASA wiring guide? Since I’m a lazy electrician I probably would have just used a terminal strip.
@harrisonlow5 ай бұрын
Haha I had no idea this type of connection had a name! You might be on to something with the terminal strip idea... That seems a lot easier to work with 🤔
@DMSparky5 ай бұрын
@@harrisonlow Yes, its a method I have only read about. It's found in section 19 of the NASA document "Workmanship Standard for Crimping, Interconnecting Cables, Harnesses, and Wiring"... Which is the kind thing I like to read in my spare time hahah. So its good enough for NASA!
@hankb77255 ай бұрын
maybe instead of movement compliance you can create friction to slow down the ball to catch it. what about some kind of funnel with a fabric surface? the funnel can be flexible or a bit springy so it has give as it enters and is also getting slowed down by the fabric friction. as it enters it gets tighter since it's a funnel shape. to throw you can relax the funnel and expose a harder rounded surface below like what you had before to throw it
@harrisonlow5 ай бұрын
Interesting idea! I'm not a huge fan of the 'funnel hand' idea as it feels a little bit like cheating to me, but I'll have a think about how friction might be useful here. Very creative idea!
@hankb77254 ай бұрын
Ok. I'm a big fan of the "simplest thing that can possibly work" approach. So I was thinking of whats the easiest way to grab the ball since all we care about is capturing it and throwing it. If you don't like the funnel idea, maybe consider the mousetrap approach that instantly clamps down, maybe with 3 to 4 fingers around the ball. Then no need to do complicated compliance calculations... just grab it! :) Love your videos man! very cool. @@harrisonlow
@harrisonlow4 ай бұрын
@@hankb7725 Yeah, I agree with that general mentality, and it's not quite true that I'm dismissing the funnel idea just for aesthetic taste, it's just tricky to verbalise all the contributing factors in a YT comment 😅 I really like the idea of a 'trap' to hold the ball, and this is something I think I might include in a future version of Jugglebot, especially one that does aggressive moves while holding the ball. Baby steps, though, and I think the compliant hand is a more robust way to solve the problem than having the ball slam into a trap each time. Smoothness = good form 😊 Cheers!
@hankb77254 ай бұрын
@@harrisonlow I’ll excited to see it become a reality asap. So after tossing a ball and catching it a few times I realized I was just mostly grabbing it on the spot, not really moving down. But I agree to be more robust and support much higher throws and possibly heavier balls, it would be good to be able to slow it down. Either way I’m sure you will make it work. Since I don’t understand the compliance calculation, for me it seemed easier to grab it on contact :) but you have the expertise as an engineer so you have more options. Thanks for the engagement. I’m on the chat platform too. I can chat there going forward.
@harrisonlow4 ай бұрын
@@hankb7725 Yeah the compliance is something that doesn't really become obvious (or necessary) until you're juggling more balls, or higher throws I agree - I'm very excited for this to finally start working! It feels so close 😁