I knew you would be interested Kongs lol..

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@@Brad-D I def will. Great content

If you look at the bottom-left of this page: service.globalvr.com/downloads/ffl/diagrams/power_dist_gun_games.pdf you will see the guns power harness diagram. Bit the wire color and even order isn't always the same when getting these guns from AliExpress. You need to be sure what wire is 12V, what wire is 24V, and what wire is Ground. Sometimes they are labeled and sometime you have to use trial and error by hooking up one wire at a time or using a continuity tester between a wire and the contacts on the lights (lights are 12V and the recoil is 24V). But once the wires are identified, just connect them to the correct voltage terminals in a power supply. I used this one and its working great: www.amazon.com/Arcity-Switching-Adjustable-Machine-Cocktail/dp/B07RT54H9V/ref=pd_lpo_23_t_1/133-4673328-7039818?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07RT54H9V&pd_rd_r=b21e34f7-27a1-4ad6-9344-fccffcd87b5f&pd_rd_w=rEbcG&pd_rd_wg=dp7j3&pf_rd_p=16b28406-aa34-451d-8a2e-b3930ada000c&pf_rd_r=ECHFRX49RB6S9KRZF0G5&psc=1&refRID=ECHFRX49RB6S9KRZF0G5

@@Brad-D thank you so much for the reply. Your build is amazing and can't wait to make one of my own and start playing with my son

I have those and many more now :) I’ll be posting an updated playlist video soon

@@Brad-D House of the Dead 5 and Time Crisis 5 are now also working on Teknoparrot!

Thank you! Salvation and Armageddon aren't available (yet) they both use USB dongles to real-time decrypt the games so getting a rom dump working will take some doing. But I have a few that I consider "modern" games. Aliens Extermination and Gundam Spirits of Zeon are both from 2006, Haunted Museum is from 2009, Transformers: Human Alliance is from 2013, etc. etc. And these aren't light guns, the act like analog joysticks, POTS in the base of each send X and Y axis movement to the on-screen crosshairs, so it works on any TV. Any Game/Emulator that can use Analog controls for AD Sticks or Lightgun controls inputs can use these guns

@@Brad-D Purely out of curiosity: Is that how the arcade versions worked? Only I've got an old Sniper Scope gun that I've been meaning to do something with, and this might be that!

@@eliotcole Maybe! most games with mounted guns were analog like mine, but a few still used lightgun tech and will only work on a real CRT monitor

@@Brad-D Cheers! I actually just found out on another video that it is very much built the same way. HURRAH!

I started with this kit and modified it: us.amazon.com/LEP1-Customs-Easy-Assemble-TPAP/dp/B07SPYBMHW?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07SPYBMHW&pd_rd_r=69500491-b6c8-4ba1-a116-e6e36013ac6c&pd_rd_w=PYGRf&pd_rd_wg=MwswA&pf_rd_p=bdc67ba8-ab69-42ee-b8d8-8f5336b36a83&pf_rd_r=F0HZZM79FXZSE9DY6WRA&psc=1 www.ebay.com/itm/223860645925?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACMBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkNhEMXTu%252Fq1Qu7DzD5a9Hs4SBvsPr0MxmmVskMlbBbgQTB94DWuM4b0ZN%252BZgCOxoM0LpXj%252BeAFh6CdtOAuY677ncZDTObsGPauPUUkRwpwtIQe727OY1mby9CHAjN7TCFRyv2aVF6%252B%252B8yTM1fY1CPkrhT1xRaVPCVW4u4UAeIkVN7kRCLteC%252F6Zmw6cJsZkrrEYC8FbvHr95y7jfjh3YyEbZFwiqki42BFElqJ10PY0mSs7a0UQF7AB1S1EHOq8hNtFo6EXLGdxMTbDIQysnPVVT8ZWBlW1ciGPWoEAT%252FH9Bnex4cjqasDBvugwCpjwop4Yvfcyz9P5SIas908olRh32q51YBOUARIvCzB3aDS%252FRMQrK8X20llC1PBKI%252Fv5tDj7QC%252FFmmdSQ2kk7I%252FAQwiWtbetbWoPfRvDATOhQdDsxQOkIXxntHRQMndACiBNt0BhOxQbdBArzFUp1FWXp%252BpW%252FahLWZyEzcgKtTWwEawRkD1uRdo1jfBoaEiQYqrmNfMmFVYlgQCqg6oiY3XK0So9iOBqbHM3LuyrosFMg81lHUm4cYs99NbxH8kw3FDH4FlHbZilHkYWk%252F3QdGXln%252FgGV2eqcMOLsbVfo6VDEBgsFQ8xawc9Ane6QaE5w%252FQZHyuCyYyN2gCOsaMfmjwi2lpuqvJSg%252B2lCH%252B41KIURqO8885w4PQtmGK5JY506Kf%252Faj%7Ccksum%3A223860645925dcb88c9305644772bd48fa7dd1f9e071%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A3268220&chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=223860645925&targetid=1068323852870&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9007765&poi=&campaignid=11612431353&mkgroupid=114626995633&rlsatarget=pla-1068323852870&abcId=9300456&merchantid=6296724&gclid=CjwKCAiA6aSABhApEiwA6Cbm_2uKHXRbN_6gsagDQsFhtE8neqOEvfCy44BZewC_ucChF0Ct9ueIcRoCCMoQAvD_BwE

Kongs-R-Us kzfaq.info/love/PbUB6I2ov_2AuQOx5ZfxMA is posting a video on 3/25/21 talking about how these guns wire up

I don't but thanks for your interest. I am more than happy to offer advise and answer questions about any similar builds though

I used this one and its working great: www.amazon.com/Arcity-Switching-Adjustable-Machine-Cocktail/dp/B07RT54H9V/ref=pd_lpo_23_t_1/133-4673328-7039818?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07RT54H9V&pd_rd_r=b21e34f7-27a1-4ad6-9344-fccffcd87b5f&pd_rd_w=rEbcG&pd_rd_wg=dp7j3&pf_rd_p=16b28406-aa34-451d-8a2e-b3930ada000c&pf_rd_r=ECHFRX49RB6S9KRZF0G5&psc=1&refRID=ECHFRX49RB6S9KRZF0G5

Shoot me an email bdiederichs@gmail.com

I actually just bought this generic pedestal kit off Amazon, modified it a bit, added a wood panel cover to the front, and drilled the holes on top by hand LEP1 Customs, TPAP Easy to Assemble Arcade Pedestal Kit for The Tankstick Pandora's Box Atari Legends Gamer Pro and Other Joystick Units DIY Kit a.co/d/bQStrrJ

You can force mame to map the controls in a specified order based on their hardware ID’s I talk about how this is done in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bduBitpe2cq3mWw.html

Yup Just be sure you are getting the version with USB. There is another set that wire up via an interface board instead of USB (don't get those)

Anything that can use analog joysticks. Any MAME game. If you have an emulator that doesn't recognize analog joysticks you can still get them working with a bit of configuring in programs such as Joy2key and DemulShooter

Yeah, there is a recoil solenoid in each gun :) you can adjust the amount of recoil in the Game options for each game that supports it

Windows sees them as generic analog joysticks

Perfect thank you

the USB version is mostly plug and play, yes. But windows sees them as joysticks so they will not act as a mouse unless you configure them to do so in a program such as joytokey

do you sell builds? this is amazing.

@@rcadenow7543 I don’t, this is just a hobby for me and I don’t have the space/time to build in any quantity. But I’m always happy to answer questions and give advise!

I gifted this cart to my brother (huge Aliens fan) And my schedule/workspace doesn't really making building commission viable. But I'm happy to offer advise and share build techniques/software scripting! I know at least one other person (in the UK) who has made their own version of this cart (and greatly improved on it aesthetically) and I helped him get it wired up and configured via DM's

@@Brad-D Thank you very much for the response and the offer to help! I really appreciate it! I also currently don’t have the time or the workspace, but I will definitely let you know if I do take on that project. I would love to have it. Thanks again!

I got a set off eBay but they are also for sale on AliExpress

m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001604624073.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.44a02QlJ2QlJuP&browser_id=f1c52a97699447748d2dd33fbca1635a&aff_trace_key=&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=hapagutfxk4cauf017e20a60b381ea6731a5cf2a57&gclid=

@@Brad-D thanks bro i will check them out! Just subscribed to your channel

The USB cable conveys all of the input to the computer and will also power the LED ammo counter The 12 V/24 V wires power, the other lights and the recoil The lights to 12 V, the recoil takes 24 V, and they share a ground So there should be a three wire harness wear one wire is 24 V, another wire is 12 oh, and the third wire is ground Here is the power supply I used Arcity 5V 12V 24V Output Arcade... www.amazon.com/dp/B07RT54H9V?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

@@Brad-D Thank you so much , for the quick reply! I just bought one now. Is there any think I should know more? Before getting started?

​@Brad-D was this one power supply enough to power both guns at the same time? Do you actually know how many amps are required? Also, what does the green wire?

Yup!

4th gen i7 16GB RAM NVIDIA graphics It’s just a small form factor HP workstation that I already had. But these games would run on far less power

Amazing. Great work. 👍

The guns do need both 12v (for the lights) and 24v (for the recoil) I installed one power supply and spit it out to both guns. Most power supplies can supply multiple Voltages, I got one that had both 12v and 24v outputs.

@@Brad-D hey bro I seen the link you provided for that power supply you used in a comment below... but it only has 1 output for 24v and 1 output for 12v. So did you split each output into two seperate connections? So the 24 volt split to each gun and same with the the 12v? And if so, then how did you do it? Did you have to solder/cut wires to perform this task?

@@deceptionz187 yes, I spilt each out to the two guns. If you look at the cut-away showing the power supply wired up in this video, you will see a single set of wire coming off the power supply the. It goes to a Molex Y-cable that I spliced into the guns power wires

@@Brad-D can we talk on email or something? I will even pay you money for a detailed explanation. Through Paypal if you would like. I have spent $90K in my Mancave so far and my guy (whos making my 4player custom arcade machine) would like to build me and himself, a pedestal like the one you have... we ordered the guns from Alibaba and want to get this to work... here Ill give you my email address, please contact me and we can talk further bro! Just need help in figuring out the connections. I will gladly pay you for your time. I can also send you photos of my mancave setup so far :) If its cool with you, then I can post my email here. And I will delete the comment (containing my email address) after you contact me. Cool with you bro? :)

@@deceptionz187 You can shoot me an email and I'll help as best I can :) You can get my email address in my channel about page: kzfaq.infoabout

Yes. TeknoParrot will override any native gun support so don't use it. You can launch Aliens via the dehasped.exe file. If you get an error opening Aliens make sure you install the old DiVx 5 codecs that it used for its cut scenes

@Brad-D I finally got it working without TP. I forgot you had to move it your C drive. Thanks Brad. Is that the same for Farcry?

There are some very smart people who have figured out how to use mamehooker to send the recoil signal to the guns for some other games but it's still a work in progress

The barrel lights activate with the ammo counter. Both stay inactive until you go into a globalVR game that can activate them. So I open Aliens or Farcry first. Then when in game, I press P1 and P2 start. This initiates the LED amount counter and barrel lights. Once activated, the barrel lights stay active until power is turned off again and will light up when ever you pull the trigger in any game But not that, even if activated, The ammo counters and recoil still only work in global VR games like Aliens and Farcry

@@Brad-D thank you!

I'm using Launchbox/Bigbox www.launchbox-app.com/premium

Probably around $800-$900 with materials. There is also a panel you can get to slide the guns into for around $100. It makes it easier to mount.

The loose green wire is another ground for static discharge The guns barrel lights start working after the gun has been “activated” It’s the same with the LED amount counter. These become active after you hit start in Aliens Extermination (since that game send commands to the guns lights/ammo LED, and recoil) Once activated though, the barrel lights up whenever the trigger is pulled in any game. But once power is cut, they stay off until “activated” again. Note: while the barrel lights work whenever the trigger is pull (after initial activation) the recoil only works when getting a signal from a supported game such as Aliens Extermination or FarCry. Meaning the recoil won’t work in other games.

@@Brad-D Thank you for the reply, unfortunately in my case the led strip doesn't work even after the game activates the ammo counter, recoil and etc, did you have the green wire connected or floating?

Another thing to note, i already opened up the gun to check if the led strip works, and with direct connection to 12v it works just fine, just not via the trigger for some reason.

@@F0xHole I connected the loose green wire to one of the Ground terminals on the power supply. that's so odd about your barrel lights. But since you have the shell open, maybe you could just wire them up to the same 12v power that goes to the button light bulbs and put a contact switch on the trigger. That way they would always light up even if the gun wasn't activated first

@@Brad-D thanks for the reply. Yeah, that's pretty much what i thought about doing too, but i just didn't understand why it wouldn't work like it should even though i didn't find any issues with my multimeter with the wiring.

Pedestal guns, like these are actually light guns. Some people call the X/Y guns. The up/down and left/right movements are picked up by potentiometers in the base and translated to ex and Y coordinates on screen They’re essentially to giant analog joysticks

@@Brad-D Very interesting. I had no idea. Thanks for the reply. I've been working on my own retro bat build for quite a while. Just ordered the retro shooter light guns to add to my multi-cade style pedestal.

The game(s) themselves have to send a signal to the guns for them to recoil, if the game in question that you're playing never used these types of guns in the arcade they won't send the required signals.

@@Brad-D lol. There are quite a few arcade games that use these types of guns. Funny enough, House of the Dead 3 used pistols in the arcade.

@@deceptionz187 you're right :) but to get these specific guns to recoil natively the game had to use these exact "Aliens" guns. Such as FarCry Paradise Lost or Fear Freight Land. Other Pedestal Gun Games, Like LA Machineguns for example, wouldn't make these guns recoil either. Games that didn't use these Aliens gun need to have some extra software sending the correct signals to activate recoil. For example, My copy of House of the Dead 3 doesn't send any recoil signal to these guns because I don't have the version of House of the dead that was indented for the "bundle" of games that was sold with those 3 in 1 Bundles that had a (non USB) version of these guns like this: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002484390314.html?spm=a2g0o.search0302.0.0.434e7036nGgoqG&algo_pvid=883d4f63-9c90-48fe-91cd-539f5159538f&algo_exp_id=883d4f63-9c90-48fe-91cd-539f5159538f-0

@@Brad-D yes that is correct. So... wouldnt you like to make all your rail shooter games work with recoil? There is a way you know.... but Im surprised you havent figured it out yet.. I recently found out myself from my Arcade builder

@@deceptionz187 can you tell me how please

no, but they will work with most MAME and TeknoParrot games on PC

These guns have USB interface is an automatic detected by windows as analog joysticks. I’m using a mix of emulators (MAME, TeknoParrot, Model2, etc.) to run all of my games. The front of that launches everything is called bigbox.

@@Brad-D Thanks, I want to build a system like yours! about the guns can you explain how did you configure it to show the ammo counter for each game? also to what PSU did you connect them? a guide for everything you did would be very appriciated. and a link to buy them? I found a lot on aliexpress but don't know which one to choose, also a guide on how to setup all the games with the software you said.. I really want to build this. thanks a lot in advance!

The same way you would for any other game in TeknoParrot. Just be sure to go into game option and set the control to Direct Input (not Xinput) Then you can go to controller settings and map everything. These guns should be recognized as direct input analog joysticks with buttons

@@Brad-D Thanks, the buttons work now (trigger, flame and grenade) but the movment of the gun (the cursor) doesn't work.. like it's stuck in the middle, any idea how to set it up?

Original Aliens Arcade guns with TeknoParrot? Nope!

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@@Brad-D Thanks, it works, but the crosshair isn't visible, do you know how to enable it? anyway it finally works so that's nice. now how do I set it up to play other games like far cry paradise lost and more.. ? please

A lot! LoL Really any gun game or game that uses an AD stick. The only gun games that don’t work too well are ones where you shoot offscreen your reload. But I have plenty of them in here now too, I just had to set reload to a button instead.

I did but it did not :( must be a specific version. There is also versions of Aliens Armageddon and House of the Dead 3 that supports these guns out there somewhere, but the versions available online for these games don't work with these guns natively. Thank goodness for DemulShooter, TeknoParrot, and Mamehooker :)

@@Brad-D Yeah. No joke. Thanks for clarifying

I haven’t, no. But your results may vary because not all suppliers build these to the same quality spec. If it really starts becoming a problem, you always have the option to open up the shell and replace the solenoid with something higher quality/newer

For the Aliens game? I wrote an AHK file to launch the game. That file also sets my Esc key to force-close the game program

@@Brad-D great. Could you share it! Please.

@@giangdiygaming4918 be sure to instll autohotkey www.autohotkey.com/ then paste this in a notepad file and save it in your Alines game folder as a .ahk (not .txt) run, "C:\PC\aliens\DATA\aliens dehasped.exe" Escape:: Process,Close,aliens dehasped.exe Run,taskkill /im "aliens dehasped.exe" /F ExitApp return

No these are detected as analog joysticks, not pointing devices. For games that require pointing devices, I use either Demulshooter to override the input or JoyToKey to emulate a mouse

@@Brad-D thanks for the reply!

@@Brad-D I was seeing if I could somehow double this up to use in place of a usb mouse on PlayStation 2 original hardware for the Silent Scope series (really just a curious experiment) as that game doesn’t support light guns on ps2(controller and usb mouse only). I’ve got the Xbox version with the gun but results vary and screen brightness is cranked up (not a traditional light gun in the sense). I’m wondering if anyone has made some sort of converter from analog joystick to mouse. I really should be doing more productive things 🤣.

@@retromod6488 JoyToKey can make one of the guns act like a mouse

@@Brad-D sorry, I meant getting to work with PlayStation 2 hardware itself. I did some digging and think I can achieve this with an Arduino Micro and their mouse library!

I used this power supply, but any one will do that has both 12v and 24v www.amazon.com/Arcity-Switching-Adjustable-Machine-Cocktail/dp/B07RT54H9V/ref=sr_1_3?crid=12GF6GPYPV5YO&dchild=1&keywords=12v+5v+power+supply&qid=1610481394&sprefix=12v+12v+5v+power%2Caps%2C177&sr=8-3 I also grabbed a few Molex connectors and a splitter to connect the guns to the power supply but that is optional if you want to wire it directly. Just match up the guns 24v/12v/ground to the corresponding terminals on the power supply, plug the guns into your PC's USB ports and you should be good to go

@@Brad-D do you have a link to the splitter (I like the plug way to extend) and type of molex needed. What about the AC cord for power?

@@raychow5419Here is the splitter I used (I wired one end to the power supply's 12v/24v/Ground and then connected the two split connectors to the Molex extension cables Here is the splitter a used www.amazon.com/Computer-Supply-Splitter-Internal-Extension/dp/B07Z84K6Q2/ref=sr_1_2_sspa? Here is a Molex extension cable I used. I got two - one for each gun (and cut one end off each, soldered to the gun power wires and connected the other ends to the output from the splitter) www.amazon.com/dp/B07BMJ7GD9/ref=dp_prsubs_1 as for the power cable that goes into the power supply, go get any three prong extension cord and cut off the female end. Then strip back the cable and inside are three wires (green white black) connect the black to the power supply hot/Line lead (labeled L) connect the white to the power supply neutral AC in lead (labeled N) connect the green to the power supply Ground lead (in between the N and 24V connections on this power supply)

@@Brad-D Thanks Brand. With all the parts list provided, I can see where everything connects. I should have no problems hooking this up. For the control decoder is there one you suggest or a controller package?

@@raychow5419 any generic USB encoder can be used for the joystick/buttons EG STARTS Zero Delay USB Encoder... www.amazon.com/dp/B01L8K21CK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

They are both on the wrong side of the country to see in person, but both have seen my videos :)

These guns were originally used in a number of different arcade games. Some had the guns wired to an I/O board that connected to the PC via USB. But later ones just had the guns connect fire t to the PC via USB You can find both versions of the guns (usb and I/O board) on Ali express nowadays

you can sometimes find them on eBay from a seller in the States, but here is a link from ali express: www.aliexpress.com/i/32696146193.html

h5.aliexpress.com/item/32696146193.html

@@Brad-D That was a really quick reply! Thank you for your help.

Each gun has its own USB plug

I inverted them in software. Both mame and Demulshooter have reverse x and y axis options You can also reverse them physically. Retro Ralph swapped the wires on the pots to reverse their positions

@@Brad-DThanks! Demulshooter works, but I still have an issue with the aim range - it is limited to a partial square. Did you have this problem? did you solve it?

@@jerrysmith3171 check out this video here :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLpxoq6Fqc6wemQ.html

@@Brad-D Amazing. Thanks Brad!

I saw in another video that you managed to get farcry working. But it doesn't have a demulshooter going, so how did you pull that off?

The recoil only works with the couple of games originally intended for these guns. But The sky is the limit for playing other gun games (without recoil) If a game/emulator can recognize an Analog joystick, then it will recognize these guns.

@@Brad-D thanks again for the reply! I hope recoil can work with other games in future but atleast there are plenty of games available to play. If its not to much trouble could you tell me the dimensions of the box you built around the guts of each gun? Gonna be at least 3 weeks until mine arrive and would love to make a headstart on the cabinet. No worries if not. Thanks 😀

@@lewisdolan6990 I actually just eye-balled the boxes. You just have to have a small gap on one side to allow the gun to swing freely side -to-side. I'd take a measurement but the I gifted the cart to my brother: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jtaSo7lenJvVY2Q.html I don't get down that way as much as I would like, but I'll see if he can send me a rough measurement

@@Brad-D thank you I'll leave the boxes until the guns arrive. I'll start on the cabinet in the mean time. Thanks again. Subscribed looking forward to more of your content 🙂

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These actually aren't lightguns. The just have X and Y analogs in the base that send the up/down & left/right to the game. Windows just see's them as analog joysticks. So there is no need for any sensor bars