Can a peepless bowhunting rig be as accurate as a using a peep? What are the advantages?
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@brokenarrow6491 Жыл бұрын
I've been hunting this way for 30 years now. I use xl kisser and 3 finger pinky release and i would never go back. I line my string up with the inside edge of the riser. My old eyes can shoot deer at first and last light with no problem. Glad to see someone else doing it this way.
@weekender3810 ай бұрын
Just found your channel. Been bowhunting 54 years and only 1 hunt with a peep sight. Couldn't get the peep off fast enough after I let the BIG boar hog walk cause I couldn't see through the peep. I have killed 100s of animals without a peep, only a kisser button. I like the looks of this nose button you have.
@KeithGyarmati4 жыл бұрын
Love the Bowmar nose button.
@danielback32364 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing this for about 8 years now. It took me a while to learn my anchor point. But once I did I don’t think I could ever go back. Every deer I’ve ever killed has been this way. Glad to see more people looking into it. I haven’t tried the nose button yet but I may try it in y next set of strings.
@thomaspiercy210129 күн бұрын
Dude, I took it a step farther on an old vintage Browning Nomad Deluxe compound today, I removed the peep and the sights completely, and adjusted the tiller for a three under tab release. I put a Black Eagle vintage 500 full length arrow with 175 grain tip in the 12 multiple times, then I got my old Mathews MQ32 out, had already removed the peep, and after a few minute sight adjustments was driving tacs in the target, I'm really glad to here your success. I also shoot a Mesa hybrid longbow 37# just as accurate
@whitetailpoet4243 Жыл бұрын
On 70° days in my backyard I have no issues with my peep. But the last two late season hunts, with snow on the ground, I've struggled in the cold and low light situations getting my peep lined up on deer in my shooting lane. This tip confirms what I was thinking so I'm going to give it a try. Thanks for the video.
@rickabbott40164 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I knocked my peep site out while walking to my stand about 7 years ago, and started shooting without it. Haven’t looked back. When combined with a single pin adjustable sight, hard to beat combination for whitetail hunting.
@MickyMouseLimited3 жыл бұрын
Man you are so correct. I just realized that my anchor point was way off because the pipe was to high. I was getting tired to hold the bow steady because I have no refence point. I pulled the pipe out and start practicing now my anchor point is perfect the d loop is on the corner of my mouth and my nose is touching the string. I am shooting as accurate as before if not better but I see alot more and I have a solid anchor point.
@ChenagoOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
I've been doing this for 3 years and my groups have gotten better.
@spudkidmandudebro2 ай бұрын
In the early 2000’s I used to put some drops of light stick fluid on my peep and flick the excess off. I’ll have to try this
@nozrep Жыл бұрын
very cool. been wanting to try this. Didn’t know the nose thing existed. But now I do!
@natecarter54 жыл бұрын
Glad you posted this video. Same set up I’m running this year.
@tonyherbers49027 ай бұрын
You're so right on, I have always used a kisser button and I shoot great. With a peep it's so fuzzy and hard to focus on my dot. Kisser only is the way to go. Thanks for your video.
@beforethehunt3 жыл бұрын
I like the added speed of no peep
@jonathansimmons42532 жыл бұрын
That is the reason I went peepless. I was getting deer at low light and couldn't see them through the peep, so I took it off. It did take a lot of practice to get use to shooting that way, but I was able to get shots off last season at low light since I didn't have the peep.
@dieselsmithsАй бұрын
I have always used my anchor point along with a pin sight. I use a Concho style rope release as I have always felt that I get a more accurate anchor point as the pivotal position of the anchor is farther away from the string and therefore the string is less influenced by any torque or angular misalignment on my part. Never had a need for kisser buttons either. I feel that I am more accurate than with a peep or kisser due to the consistency of feeling my exact anchor vertically, horizontal,as well as draw length.
@chrisochoa12224 жыл бұрын
I am a very successful shooter and I have tried this and despite shooting very good with a peep the freedom you feel and how great the vision is with out a peep is hard to beat. The way I got into it is I purchased a bow with a peep 10" so i just started looking through the V of the string below it and wow how great it felt! Since than it has been on my mind to go completely peepless! Great video!
@CarlosRamirez-kq2bd2 жыл бұрын
I've been shooting "peep free" for over 25 years. I use a bow anchor sight, and serving in where my nose touches the string acts as anchor point as well. I shoot both eyes open for a better field of view.
@coreykolenosky59743 жыл бұрын
I haven't shot with a peep sight in 15 years....I used to use a No-Peep and when they sold to I.Q I went to AnchorSight.....and it will also prevent bow torque....by showing you the torque in your grip. You can also shoot with both eyes open.
@josephtreadlightly5686 Жыл бұрын
I had 30 years with a kisser button & no peep. But I wear a mask & really like the nose button much more. I've seen alot of bad hits on deer videos. I've always wondered how many people torque their bows when they shoot with a peep & hit to the left or right? I think it's higher than many would think. I have a rock solid anchor & a very solid instinctive shot progression with my thumb release. When not using a peep the 1st thing I do after the nose button hits the same spot on my nose is make sure the cables lineup with my sight picture riser. This makes sure u r doing the same thing everytime. My brain craves for an open sight & I use the EZV bow sight this way. I've shot alot of recurve & I aim as I'm drawing back my bow with a recurve. I draw a compound the same way but I'm always just a little low on the target when I get to full draw due to my anchor with a release is much different than when shooting fingers. So it's important to have a shot progression & a rock solid anchor point b4 letting it fly.
@JWHITEHEAD134 жыл бұрын
In the process of dialing my anchor system, peepless is the future!
@Adlautz4 жыл бұрын
Bow season starts in 2 weeks here in Ohio. I took my bow to the shop and had my peep taken out! I already love it without. All I use is my anchor point and a bowmar nose button. I highly recommend this setup
@robolyn2 жыл бұрын
I'm on the other side of the spectrum. Have never shot a peep sight. Grew up never using one and have never felt I needed one. I understand the accuracy that can be attained by using one but I tried putting one in this year for the first time and shot with it for about 2 weeks and yanked it out lol. I feel like I'm boxed in with that peep, like I can't see anything. Also I use a single pin slider sight and I set the peep halfway through my range which is 50 yards. At twenty yards I had to scrunch my head down to see the pin and at 100 yards I could barely see the pin over the bottom edge of the peep. Not for me boys. I just got a bowmar nose button and I will be installing it to see how it goes with that. I have a feeling it's gonna be great with nose button and no peep👍
@bkbowhunter14 жыл бұрын
Ive had the low light problem in the past as well. might give it a try
@henrybrylowski13324 жыл бұрын
I just took my peep off about a week ago too. For a different reason, I was using a peep with an aligning tube. I got tired of the tube breaking all the time and getting caught on brush and stuff. Making my set up simpler and more rugged.
@TheUntamedHunt4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff man! Definitely has me interested. Also, nice shirt! Haha - Kirk
@HuntAppalachia14 жыл бұрын
The Untamed Haha thanks man! Gotta represent some fellow WV boys! 👊🏼
@agi65213 жыл бұрын
Jared, years ago I shot without a peep, but for some reason which I don't remember, I switched back to a peep. Recently, I found this video, and decided to go peepless again, already using a nose button, pulled the peep, and haven't looked back. Im actually more accurate w/o the peep!!!!
@HuntAppalachia13 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@paulcrave31124 жыл бұрын
I’ve been peepless for about a year or so, for all the reasons you stated. Works for me.
@manvsdeer4 жыл бұрын
This is a must try for sure. My peep constantly twists, I can still shoot but it is annoying
@andysmith82953 жыл бұрын
while watching this i noticed that your D loop is twisting because of your release angle... it might torque the bow string a little. Just something I noticed. Great video btw.
@daveanddanniejacobs94324 ай бұрын
Thank you i have actually been contemplating for some time how i could alliminate the peep sight out of my everyday target shooting. Now i have more info n im gonna check on the nose spike lol. Cant remember the name of it but yeah. Good info.
@jasonbarger89913 жыл бұрын
Just did this, seems to be plenty accurate , maybe more accurate in low light
@ryanboyer967010 ай бұрын
Awesome video man, I recently became partially blind in my dominant eye and I think this may work to still let me shoot my compound.
@gblan3 жыл бұрын
Zinger fletches. Love 'em!
@vociferonheraldofthewinter22843 жыл бұрын
What are those? (Newby. Trying to learn)
@HumanTimeMachine3 жыл бұрын
2:24 “I’ve been shooting 0 to 70 yards”
@softsmoken3 жыл бұрын
Since I started archery ive wanted to just tie a tiny red knot on my string where peep would go, I already use a nose button... anyway glad to see im not crazy and there's people doing things like this
@Im.hurtnLinda2 жыл бұрын
With index release shooters, anchor index knuckle under ear and touch nose to string works good also.
@robertshepard84823 жыл бұрын
Getting my bow restrung now and going to try this method now that I have lots of time before the season starts.
@JoshWheelers3 жыл бұрын
I've been peep free for about three years now and like it a lot. I've been using a Perry's No Peep to help with alignment & torque awareness but I'm now considering the nose button instead of the No Peep because I have a problem seeing the bubble level around the No Peep housing. Which hasn't been a huge issue, I just level then aim but it's just another thing to try out.
@Elwood558 ай бұрын
I lost my peep it was 2 seasons ago . Remember it like yesterday .
@kennethrobie87894 жыл бұрын
we were doing this 30 years ago as well
@6saturdaysaweek Жыл бұрын
Great video, love the trophy room behind you. I might try this out after our season ends here in NC. I’ll have to go with a kisser as I can’t see me spending a dime that goes toward the legal defense of that fraud and poacher Bowmar.
@josephtreadlightly5686 Жыл бұрын
U can make a nose button with bow string serving. Much better than a kisser & also lighter too. When it gets 🥶 I'm leaving my mask over my mouth & try just to breath through my nose. Keeping your mouth shut makes a difference when u r trying to ambush prey animals @ close range.
@6saturdaysaweek Жыл бұрын
@@josephtreadlightly5686 I’ve put dloop material through the string, and tied it in. That works pretty well, also.
@josephtreadlightly5686 Жыл бұрын
@@6saturdaysaweek That's a great idea. What kind of string separator did u use?
@6saturdaysaweek Жыл бұрын
@@josephtreadlightly5686 I put it in a press and use a bohning string separator
@ijaxon66752 жыл бұрын
Imagine: Myths in Archery. "Gotta have a peep sight" or "Need a $350 release."
@lisavanhouten78064 жыл бұрын
Great advice!
@tjhoss6729 Жыл бұрын
Great video, totally agree...
@tonyviers-de9qi Жыл бұрын
Every hunter should be taught this. Personally, I believe no matter what you will shoot better with a peep. Pro’s use them for a reason. However, I think if everyone would train like this , it would be better for them
@JeremyReger4 жыл бұрын
I've always fought with this myth... Im going peepless bro... thanks! haha
@HuntAppalachia14 жыл бұрын
Try it man! I know I love it!
@v.n.68864 жыл бұрын
About 20 years ago we utilize a No-Peep to prevent shooting errors by torquing the bow when we shoot w/o a peep. Same principle is in the IQ-Sights nowadays. Did you see how much you twist / bend your string with your d-loop? Maybe try a softer loop material.
@andrewblythe46564 жыл бұрын
Any DIY suggestions for removing, carefully of course without any razor blades, the peep without a bow press?? I've seen a couple instructional videos using scissors carefully. I'm Very curious in trying but if I can save a trip to my not-so -local bow shop and try it out I would like to go once if I need the peep re-installed. Already touch nose and have kisser. I think it'll really help with low light like you said.
@HuntAppalachia14 жыл бұрын
If the peep is served in you’ll have to cut that. Not really any way around it. As far as getting the peep out the smooth end of two sharpie markers pushed between the string will open it up enough for the peep to come out. Hope that makes sense lol
@airwolf2693 жыл бұрын
i draw to my right eye looking straight down the arrow. i have been shooting this way over 30 years with no sights my Darton SL50 30" draw at 80lbs and a old flipper rest 2 that's it. Even bow fish the same way with same set up i used back in the 80's.
@slickironmarc90862 жыл бұрын
Trying this for sure. Thanx
@johnstansbury50972 ай бұрын
I ditched the peep bcuz of hunting in low light no kisser button no nose nock ..my form and anchor point is solid from thousands of hours of shooting..sick of people trying to tell me that it's like a rear sight on a gun lmfao a peep is basically just training wheels for people that don't put in the time on the range
@michaelgmcauliffe4 жыл бұрын
awesome peep sights are a pain in the ass the tubing keeps braking
@jacobcarrillo78966 ай бұрын
Just bought a compound bow having issue cuz I am right handed using right handed bow but im.left eye dominant so I just keep both eyes open looking down I can still see light silhouette of peep around the 3 pin but I feel like it throws me off I feel like ur video helps alot cuz I felt stupid thinking I should have got a left handed bow
@danielpearce4247 Жыл бұрын
Great video,I shoot without peep and sights much easier and pretty accurate,just need to practice.
@chuckdean2603 жыл бұрын
Great content!
@RippinLipsAndEatinBass2 жыл бұрын
My peep fell out on my hunt tonight so this is now my set up we will see how it works tomorrow am
@williamfrost40553 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest it was after legal hunting hrs.
@backstraps4me3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about dropping the peep and using the EZV setup
@milomilkman3 жыл бұрын
@mike Lawson did you ever use this setup with the ezv?
@ronin6158 Жыл бұрын
lot's of room for potential head tilt with this, but like he said, if you're experienced and have solid lock, it should work. question: given that the eye must not be perfectly in line w string (otherwise we could not see the pins), would that not induce angle of arrow flight in relation to sight line?
@faceinthecrowd58103 жыл бұрын
IQ pro one, just ordered will remove peep .
@mikebartlett7728 Жыл бұрын
I pulled my peep sight out of my bow. I do a lot of turkey hunting and the peep don’t help at all
@jeffcarr057 Жыл бұрын
Question here. I've been trying to find a better way to shoot peepless with the nose button. I'm assuming you're looking around the string to see your pins based on what you said. I have been anchoring the button on the right side of the very tip of my nose and anchoring index knuckle in socket between back of jaw and ear and letting the string split my pins. The problem im having is that being right eye dominant if im perfectly aligned i cant even see my pin because its directly in front of my string. My question is. How can I anchor the way I currently am and look around string and be accurate. It seems that if im looking around the string the correlation between my pins and the target isnt true and ill be off to one side, especially at longer ranges. Any advice would be helpful. I really wanna be able to shoot around my string with good field of vison.
@markallen48414 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video, what fletching are you running?
@HuntAppalachia14 жыл бұрын
Those are the new Zinger Z4’s. They are awesome! I did a review of them on this channel check it out!
@flushot65133 жыл бұрын
use kisser button for yrs tried peep but didn't like it feel like simpler the better
@JedlyMT3 жыл бұрын
I just added a Kisser button(homemade, paracord) and really love the anchor. Thinking I'm gonna take my peep out now.
@nickd4579 Жыл бұрын
Sad part is they they say you need this and that years ago when shot compounds with fingers and no peep sights no nose buttons and we still killed lots of deer
@rickyanke9407 Жыл бұрын
Also sad when we wound lots of deer. Paper plate accuracy at 20 yards used to be accepted. Thankfully that has changed and whatever methods you use, 1" is what you need to be working for.
@jesusoftheapes2 жыл бұрын
I am debating a kisser and a nose button. I started archery with a kisser button a long long time ago then got talked into a peep but am ready to try this nose button out and wonder if anyone out there is using them with kissers and if they like using both.
@richgaines4839 Жыл бұрын
I use both kisser n nose button. Field of view is way better n I'm just as accurate if not more so in early morning or towards evening or overcast days or even those times I take a stand back in the river bottoms or deep woods where it gets darker sooner. Good luck!!
@75superfan Жыл бұрын
Would it be beneficial to use a kisser button with the nose button. It's getting close to being able to shoot since winter is finally leaving. I think this would be the perfect time to try this setup since I haven't shot for a few months. Then I'll have the whole year to practice before bow season. For me the issue is my eyes. Things either blurry through the peep or I see two sets of pins.
@T2XXX.7 ай бұрын
So I just bought my first bow. It has a front sight but no peep sight so I’m having trouble figuring out how to position the string to aim with the sight. It has 2 little strings that hang off the bowstring that I’ve tried using but I can’t seem to figure it out. Already lost 1 of my 6 starting arrows -_-
@dyakr43682 жыл бұрын
How do you line up your correct yardage pin for different yardages? Do you still look through your string as if there is a pin and line up each pin on your target?
@curte7739 Жыл бұрын
I really wish I could shoot peepless sightless and releaseless in other words 100% instinctive
@timothymattson38833 жыл бұрын
Wondering if you are still shooting peepless with the nose button?
@richgaines4839 Жыл бұрын
I do n overcast or low light it makes it like night n day.....literally. Bigger sight window without trying to find exactly where you are aiming at the animal. Keep it simple
@silentassassin11083 жыл бұрын
I would do this if I could shoot with both eyes open. I am right handed and left eye dominant. I have a lazy right eye and they don’t focus well together
@ryanq84594 жыл бұрын
Did you struggle if you had a thin face mask on? Thinking about doing this but was worried that wearing my light face mask will it make it hard in a hunting/quicker situation to shoot and find anchor point.
@TimSomero6 ай бұрын
I would love to get rid of my peep site. Question that I have, though, do you lineup your eye right on the string or slightly to the side?
@chrisao19872 жыл бұрын
Works great for people who wear glasses
@josephcope87923 жыл бұрын
Question for all you no peep folks: what reference do you use for horizontal alignment? Meaning where do you put the string in your vision? This seems to be the missing link for me getting right. I line string up with very right side of sight housing. Too far from center?
@joedryna1612 жыл бұрын
His/our alignment is consistent once you have two solid anchor points on the jaw and on the nose. The tip of the nose can work for some, if it's left or right that's your que. His set up would be how much pressure or lack there of is on the side of his nose. Of you are shooting take far you could have a secondary visual anchor as well. Once you dial in your anchors and get consistent at 30 and less just take a gander and see where the string lines up in comparison to the riser or sight. Honestly though once you learn and trust the string on the nose it's nothing you will even worry about. Only way if ever shoot a peep again is if I ever got into competitive shooting. That's not something I plan on doing though cuz I don't shoot enough to compete with any of those guys. I just enjoy shooting and hunting. Yank the peep when the season is over, take his advice and be patient. You will never go back
@OzarkHoller2 ай бұрын
Do you not have to line the pin up with the side of the string? I don't know how many times last season.I had to climb down 10,15 minutes early because it's too dark to see out of peep also struggle with idomics.
@graytbowhunterfinefigureof44134 жыл бұрын
Did you by any chance experiment with it while your peep was still attached to your string and just not use it just to see if you liked the Bowmar? Kinda wanted to try it to see without removing my set up
@HuntAppalachia14 жыл бұрын
I never did actually. I started without the nose button and was shooting great but wanted that extra point of reference for hunting scenarios. The nose button is meant to work with a peep so i'm sure it could be done.
@graytbowhunterfinefigureof44134 жыл бұрын
@@HuntAppalachia1 ok, yeah I been seeing this and would love to ditch the peep, as I've gotten older my close up eyesight is not what it used to be! My front sights are good,but my peep is a blur and getting even harder to get lined up in low light, thanks for the review man!
@allanstriber5272Ай бұрын
Look down the edge of string
@jkpisces3 жыл бұрын
what sight do you used with this setup? is it necessary to use IQ bowsight?
@martyhobby98112 жыл бұрын
Peep free for 3 years I use a Kisser button and EZV sight and have taken 3 big bucks in the last 3 years
@richie2dicks468 Жыл бұрын
In high school my girlfriends dad set up a used bow I bought and he started with a kisser button and that’s how I learned. In a few days I was hitting 60 yard shots in good groups consistently. I never understood why anyone uses peep sights. Both are nothing more then a fixed reference point so you line the pin up from the same position every time. Both do the same thing.
@ReelAnglerReviews Жыл бұрын
I noticed that when you draw back you're using both eyes to aim. Would you suggest this method to help someone that's cross dominant? I'm having a hard time using a right handed bow aiming down the peep sight with my less dominant eye.
@juliodeoliveiraf84703 жыл бұрын
I started in compound today No interest in having a peep after this video Greetings from Brazil
@ukjw22 ай бұрын
Why do you use the nose button vs a kisser? I mean location, not brand/type.
@HuntAppalachia12 ай бұрын
I believe the sharp points on the nose button are going to be more consistent than the round kisser. I know some guys that use both tho. The kisser for corner of the mouth and nose button for the edge of your nose. I don’t feel like I need both
@GaryLiseo2 жыл бұрын
How different is shooting without a peep from with a peep, aside from the obvious part of looking through the peep? I’m thinking about trying this but don’t know how much I’ll have to change (adjust sight, anchor point, etc.). My anchor point now is the corner of my mouth on compound and used to be jaw when shooting recurve
@josephtreadlightly5686 Жыл бұрын
Think of it this way. U get to watch the animal more carefully. There r so many things that your brain catches in the moments b4 about the animal & it's body language. Alot of times I can read this & get a better shot moments later or shoot when I want to & not have to. Allows for better decision making & being much more in tune with u & your bow. I think peeps r for target archers & not real life hunting scenarios.
@engelbrechtbowhunting6893Ай бұрын
Just a question did you try it out further than 60m
@CRinthewild3 жыл бұрын
How close of a group are you getting at 70 yards with no peep
@Zeph952 жыл бұрын
Hey just got a bow for Christmas how do u find an anchor point
@Glock-13 жыл бұрын
What kind of fletching are you using I like those?
@gblan3 жыл бұрын
Zingers, they're great
@waynealderton78672 жыл бұрын
It's the only way I've ever shot ....tried peep for half dozen shots never used again
@waynealderton78672 жыл бұрын
I actually have the pins set up that my impact sight is exactly beside the pin ball not on the pin ball it takes a little practise but once you get it it's so much easier
@jukelohnson5095 Жыл бұрын
The minute I ditched the peep, everything just fell in place. As along as your anchor is consistent and your pin is riding just outside your string, your arrow is going where you want it.
@jw-vx8im2 жыл бұрын
do you recommend this method for a new compound shooter. been a barebow recurve shooter for many years
@anotheryoutuber_2 жыл бұрын
give it a go! i shoot from barebow and compound, i like the systems being a little closer, makes it a bit closer to jump between the two.
@ryanq84594 жыл бұрын
And is the string not in the way of ur sight picture/view?