Props to Twitch for trying to make their website more profitable by making their website significantly less profitable.

Charlie, please don't bash Plutonium mixed with Stupid Juice. that shit slaps

I swear. Twitch and Blizzard (Activision as a whole) are fighting for the title of the most incompetent company ever

This is madness. These policy changes are completely absurd and will extremely limit the content available on the platform....unless there are shadier things going on behind the scenes.

Lifecycle of a company: 1. 3 dudes in a basement get an idea 2. they work their ass off to make it work 3. they are suddenly rich and make an actual company 4. they retire and let other people take care of it 5. those people implement dumb changes because their company ego is too high 6. eventually people get tired of their bullshit and move business elsewhere

Imagine having a 45 billion dollar company and deciding, "You know what. That goose that lays golden eggs eats way too much..."

Charlie needs his own streaming service with staff. The perfect platform.

I'm so sick of so many platforms turning to shit, if you do leave twitch I'll follow whatever platforms you move to because you're one of the streamers I enjoy watching for the games, commentary, and the community

"We missed the mark." The line every soulless corporation says when they are only sorry they got caught.

Twitch fans: "Twitch is impossible to kill" Twitch staff: "Observe"

I can see a lot of larger streamers threatening to leave the second the contract is up thanks to this. If they enforce this and start banning people its gg there will be a mass exodus to other platforms.

Never underestimate a corporation's ability to pull out of their ass new ways to force people to give them more money.

Charlie tied up his hair for this special occasion of Twitch taking yet another common L. Truly a professional.

You know it’s a serious video when Charlie is both moist from sweat and critical of something.

I remember when KZfaq went through policy hell in 2015-17 with demonitization and almost entirely banning swearing and people started moving to twitch once it started advertising it’s less strictness and now it’s the opposite twitch is being money hungry and streamers are moving to KZfaq for near risk free streaming

Well, this sucks. Fortunately, I'm not big enough to worry about sponsors, so I'll still stream tomorrow. Still scarry.

Twitch’s ability to self-destruct is truly inspiring. Their website is already borderline unusable, they cut everyone’s pay, and now they’re doing this shit.

Frankly, if KZfaq decided to actually _try_ at making their streaming section more navigable and fleshed out instead of just occasionally bribing Twitch streamers to switch over, Twitch wouldn't stand a chance. Every year I witness Twitch sink deeper and it perplexes me why KZfaq won't invest more time into improving their streaming interface.

I've rarely ever watched Twitch, but I have definitely noticed lots of youtubers I watch starting to stream on youtube and fully abandoning Twitch for youtube

I'm a Twitch affiliate as well and I've noticed myself the mass exodus of viewers from the platform as well. This is truly the death of the platform for ALL of us regardless of what you're talking about anyway. Is it time to jump ship and go to KICK now!?

It feels like Twitch is acting like it really thinks it's the only streaming service people can use and that they can do whatever they want because there's nowhere else to go. The ironic part is that these changes are giving other streaming services the opportunity to take over.

"We do not intend to limit streamers' ability to enter into direct relationships with sponsors" That's literally what you did.

Over the last day or two the group I am with has noticed that Twitch has silently made 6 different revisions in their ToS without publicly notifying folks each with varying adjustments as if they cannot decide on what they want to do. My friend legitimately went to have something for lunch and not even after that short amount of time did he press f5 to reload and they changed stuff in it again from what he's been keeping up with.

Unfortunately very similar to the Wizards disaster about the OGL. Hopefully the community can stand up once again.

It takes pure dedication from a company to go to such lengths in order to ruin itself like Twitch does

Honestly, the way Twitch and Blizzard have been competing so valiantly for the #1 spot in the Shoot Yourself in the Foot any% speed run without Charlie even offering the speed run challenge bounty is nuts. This is speed running at its finest

5:00 this fma reference make me lay on my khnes

When I saw this, it reminded me of what happened several months ago with whole wizards of the coast and dungeon and dragons thing when they tried to change the ogl(open game license) and the community blew up

creators cant burn in ad bits any more but twitch can completely hijack your stream to place ads whether you want them to or not. Truly an incredible development.

Gotta admire Twitch's dedication to pissing everyone off at once, including streamers, advertisers, viewers, and their own damn employees

We lost mr cow.

The damn ads like every second an AD that app is dying

Very kind from Twitch to give other streaming platforms a chance

Twitch took the phrase “don’t bite the hand that feeds you” to a different level. They’re literally massacring the hand and saying “what? I didn’t do anything wrong?”

This is a stepping stone. As you said, this is a means to force every streamer to get their sponsorship through Twitch. However, eventually Twitch will adopt a policy similar to the UFC where if a sponsor is not directly affiliated with Twitch, you are not allowed to stream in association with that sponsor. For context, the UFC adopted a similar policy where a fighter can only dedicate a small percentage of their kit to endorsements. A short time later, UFC fighters had to adopt a policy where a fighter was banned from endorsing competing companies who were otherwise directly affiliated with the UFC company brand. I. E. a fighter endorsed by Under Armour or Nike could no longer where Under Armour or Nike kit because the UFC as a company now has a contractual sponsorship with Reebok. Refusal to adhere to UFC policy invalidates any agreement to fight in the UFC forthwith. So imagine for a moment that a game streamer could no longer stream or had to suspend their stream because it was found out that this poor streamer was using a PC built by CyberPower, or Origin, or Digital Storm; and they violated Twitch policy because company policy clearly states that in order stream you must adhere to the company endorsement and be using a PC made by Acer or maybe even Apple; and this just steamrolls down the line. To what boom mics you can use, to what headsets can be used, what books livereader's are allowed to feature; all the way down to what chairs you are allowed to sit in should you even decide to continue live casting instead of Vcast.

Twitch basically saying “Sorry that you’re all so stupid.” in response to the backlash is a BOLD move.

The worst part is that Twitch’s response was to try and gaslight the community That’s utterly disgusting

this is what happens when corps believe they're too big to lose and fade away, until exactly that happens

Even call of duty removed their Twitch from the CDL rewards page, looks like they will only stream to KZfaq on 15/6 ti 18/06

I'm not surprised that this happened

These corporations are going to learn soon that they aren't nearly as fail proof as they think they are, praying on their downfall.

This is when we get another tv…set it behind the streamer and let it play the ad. If twitch has something to say you let them know that the tv is part of the sponsored package deal and their policy says you’re allowed to have the physical sponsored content behind you during stream.

Wait no directly inserting ads, but if you can have the physical products in the stream background, then just make a cardboard advert to hold up

If KZfaq took this opportunity to refine its streaming, it could destroy twitch

For a second I thought Charlie cut his hair and I almost started freaking out. Never ever cut your hair Charlie, it will be the downfall to our society.

Charlie don't scare me like that for a second I thought you cut your lushes locks

I wish i knew how to code id make a better version of twitch. With the heart and passion for the streamers... i think the adds would bring in enough

I can't think of anyone more detached from reality than people in charge of social media

Twitch and Netflix both seem to be masters at making bad decisions

I gravitated away from twitch and streamed to KZfaq mostly. I hope this can be fixed or other video platforms can exist. It doesnt seem fair to streamers at all.

I hope something replaces for now, I just learned about the moist tournaments on OperaGX calendar :c

Twitch is the embodiment of:"If it aint broken,break it."

Twitch: We're sorry it was too confusing and causing you to misunderstand us. Translation: We made the mistake of writing up rules that were too transparent and clear to show our true intentions. We will write up a more convoluted set of rules, filled with legal jargon that blurs the lines enough so that people can't see our true intentions.

I'm kinda tired of seeing ads on KZfaq despite having KZfaq Premium. This is a double-edged sword. The only solution is how the advertising sponsors change their guidelines. I don't want my fav creators going broke and I also don't want to get ads despite paying my hard-earned money for Premium. That's just my perspective

It’s always a bad time when policy isn’t enforced because there’s always that threat of them making a example of you

its crazy to see a company try this hard to fail

Genius move by the new CEO to destroy Twitch as fast as possible. He's going for the world record.

anyone else make the connection between this and how tipping is taxed now? Only difference is that Twitch has competition and government doesnt..

This is by far the funniest thumbnail I've ever seen, it goes perfectly with the title. I'm losing my shit right now

I genuinely can't imagine how Twitch is this out of touch with its user base. There has to have been thousands of videos with millions of views talking about how top streamers are leaving and all of these policies are garbage yet they still refuse to change course at all. They will be shutting down with no revenue and simply won't know why. Truly a ship with no captain.

Twitch really saw all of the bad choices that youtube gets bashed for and took that as a challenge

I've been on twitch one time this month, had 14 2 minute ads in an hour

I seriously thought he cut his hair for a day and got so scared, now watching this video again I'm so relieved.

It is genuinely insane to me how companies think tightening the leash for extra money is ever a good idea, these are the people who pay your bills. They would be absolutely nothing without their creators, yet they treat them like they are lucky to even go live. They should be on their knees, begging for advice, yet they are too diluted to ever ask for help.

Feels like that Fine Bros REACT move. Whatever the reason they say, the optics on it seems like a greedy goblin move to scrape percentages from everyone from "smaller" sponsored streamers to Esports and events.

Your Caption - My word, I was like... bro its been 7 months, you late to the news? XD RIP Stephen Laurel "Twitch"

Twitch: You now have to play ads to be a profitable streamer Also Twitch: You can no longer play ads

This really is one of those "I expected nothing, and I'm still disappointed in you" scenarios. Depressing how often those have been happening.

You know Charlie is serious when he leaves up the poney tale.

It's sure interesting how the champions League finals allowed to show ads in there video that aren't KZfaq's but no one else is lololol

As a youtube premium user who still has to sit through burnt in ads and "sponsorships" I fully back this

It's always nice to see a big company thinking they are above it all only to crumble and die by their hubris.

Damn, rest in peace twitch, i didnt know them personally but hope their family can get past this

See the bounty board sounds like a great idea for upstarting streamers and what they should have done instead of trying to force already successful streamers that don’t need them for brand sponsorships to take part in stuff like that- is incentivize newer streamers to part take in it by actually helping them grow their presence Until their also big enough to do their own thing rinse and repeat with another person.

Whooo Charlie dropping yet another “Twitch is dead” video only for twitch to keep kicking

I think the craziest part about this is that it doesn’t necessarily matter if they push this through or not - big creators that have their own ties to brands and their own networking are likely already planning exit strategy just because they even suggested this idea at all

This is informative, and unfortunate. I deleted my account one year ago. I missed out on tens of thousands of dollars as a result, but it was worth it to give the middle finger based on how badly they were treating loyal creators that spent a decade on the platform at the time. This feels validating, and hopefully more people do the same. I stand with destiny!

This reminds me a lot of the COPPA youtube scare that everyone thought would destroy youtube.

I wonder how league tournaments will be after this.

Always strange when a corporation completely doesn't understand the industry in which they operate.

I swear, all modern companies are actively competing with each other to be the worst.

Riot games uses lots of these types of ads for league and valorant pro play, love to see if twitch is ballsy enough to step on riots toes bearing in mind that league and valo are huge on twitch

I was more freaked out by the thumbnail than by the title because I thought Charlie had cut his hair

Another AWFUL change they slipped under the rug was the ability to multi-stream for non partners/affiliates. If you want to stream on twitch in ANY capacity, you are bounded to that site and that site only. KZfaq, Kick and Rumble do not have this policy, so now aspiring streamers have to choose between simultaneously streaming on 3 different platforms all on the upswing, or shackle themselves to Twitch as the boat hits iceberg after iceberg. The optimal career move is becoming more and more obvious and time goes on…

Twitch even made Charlie pull his hair back because it took up more than 3% of the screen. They've gone too far

They fr said “If we aren’t making money, no ones making money” 💀

I wonder how proplay overall would even manage at all on twitch also. For example WOW, League, Rocket league etc etc.

I love how every company and game studio are getting so bold in their greediness that it backfires, and results in them kneecapping themselves. Every. Single. Time.

Company: "we will do this for this reason." Company 1 hour later: "Everyone misinterpreted our admittedly unclear message."

"Jun 7, 2023 - Twitch says it's "immediately" removing guidelines it announced yesterday that would have limited sponsored ads in streams." - several sites covering the changes Phew.

Suddenly kicks user numbers are skyrocketing through the roof

Whoever wrote this poor 'apology' tweet is clearly a professional youtuber

Stuff like this is why I've made a hobby out of laughing at companies who think they're too big to fail, and then make decisions that cause them to fail.

This brings a thought. Where will people go next? Obviously there's plenty of options but what would the new default be.

Twitch is in their “fuck around and find out” arc and I’m here for it

Twitch is like a restaurant owner that underpays their empoyees and tells them to make it up with tips but then takes 90% of the tips too.

This is happening at the same time as Reddit cracking down on third party clients. Just plain old corporate greed ruining these platforms. Don't know if an alternative will become available.

in terms of contracts for the higher viewer streamers.....twitch will potentially be in legal hot water under "breach of contract" clauses, by knowingly ending almost all revenue to their contracted streamers, those streamers are not going to be contractually bound to stream anymore

I remember Linus tech tips made floatplane because what they had been using stopped working.streamers should make there own platform like how streamers made starfoge systems. That way they could make it how it was best for the people who use it

Honestly this is YT's biggest opportunity to convince creators to come stream here