Double check to make sure everything is aligned and seated well (all screws and clips in correctly). Shouldn't be happening.

It's on the spool, right side.

@@shit2fly I’m taking about a new one, a 160 lber smoked my drag washer

@@ismaeljimenez6670 have you tried ordering a replacement from penn? They have a parts store. You're local penn dealer should be able to do it for you as well. reelserviceorders@purefishing.com

@@ismaeljimenez6670 s7d5.scene7.com/is/content/purefishing/407-FATHOM%2040NLD 117A 1309899 117A-FTH40NLD2 Drag Was her (Assembly)

This is lever drag.

Interesting, you may need to crack open the side plate and take a look at the gears to see if there;s any broken, deformed teeth or if the dragwasher on the spool is fixed securely...not entirely sure.

Yep.

Has it been like that out of the box or after some time? Sounds like something is worn, when engaging the shift button try rocking the handle back and forth to see if it will drop in.

hmmn, you'll have to check the cam and make sure it's on correctly and not reversed. Otherwise it might be a factory error with the cam machining.

Hey man, same process as this one. The only change is in the most recent visx. All the previous models use the same shift system.

Hmmn, fathom 25 star or lever drag? If it's the star drag, sometimes you need to cock the spool back a bit. It may not engage well under tension since the pinion has to 'catch' the spool to mate.

@@shit2fly it seems that once the eccentric jack is disengaged and pulled out to put it back into gear, the pinion yoke doesn’t fall down so it kind of grinds for 5 winds until it catches?

@@kydula3141 Yep, I think it's kinda common with the fathoms actually. But I don't think it's really a serious issue per say. Even my old Speedmasters do the same sorta thing. But you can take a look at the pinion to see if anything is deformed or rounded off.

@@shit2fly yeh I’ve taken it all apart in perfect condition just doesn’t push back down properly

Only a little, there is no antireverse bearing only the 2 eared dogs, so there will be a tiny amount of play but not much to be very noticeable. If it is significant, you might have to check to make sure if both dogs are engaging properly.

No, it's cast aluminium and there;s a protective coating over it. The flagship version of the fathom however is: The Penn Torque Lever Drag

Yes, it can. There;s just a retaining clip holding it. Remember there's grease on the back of it so sometimes it may feel like it's stuck but just use a little flat edged tool to raise it off the spool once the retaining clip is removed.

@@shit2fly Thanks! 👍

@@shit2fly one more question? Do you grease drag washer? And what kind of material drag washer is ? Thank you.

@@napok10 Penn's drag material in the fathom ld is duradrag, it's the same material in the internationals. It can be run dry and i believe penn actually recommends to run it dry, however going on the information from gurus like alantani, you can apply some cal's grease on it and wipe it off completely so just a skin remains on the surface of the drag. But it's fine to not grease it. Dura drag essentially is already greased. www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/penn-dura-drag.570653/

@@shit2fly Thank you my friend.

Make sure the preset button isn't overtightened, also check that the cam is properly seated. Otherwise there might be some binding or damage to the pinion bearing or another defect.

Hey Rock, it's just going backwards. Start by removing the preset knob and the lever, the cam and then the screws on the right sideplate. You can look up John Tuttle's tutorial over at alantani, he does a breakdown of the fathom as well the torque. They're both essentially the same.