That’s hilarious! Reminds me of God I’d love. Love is blind. Ray Charles is blind. Ray Charles is God

This is fuckin' amazing! XD

Basically

Lol

You made my day 😂😂 thanks

He's right, in a way his humanist take on the church community proves God

@@litgamer6205 wrong

They just don't see it. Even if you use that analogy on them. They wouldn't be able to make that connection. Religion sucks. I only wish it wasn't as mainstream as it is, or had the power that it does.

@@defaultdan9715 Feel the same way here. Everything you stated.

That is my go to analogy as well, because it really is believing in the same thing.

@@caribgirl726 Santa is more real as I got gifts from him as a child, nothing from that god character though😉

LMAO :D

One's religion cannot be judged by another person's experiences. Religion should be a life experience, ever changing and growing just as the human body changes and grows. It is morally wrong to expect others to believe in something, or in the case of atheists not to believe in something, based on one's personal life experiences. Every person is entitled to live however they choose in their pursuit of happiness as long as it does not interfere with the happiness of others. If someone believes in a god and are happy, great. If someone does not believe in a god and are happy, great. But, just because someone does not believe the same thing as you does not give you the right to belittle or degrade them. Which is why I refuse to debate religion with anyone.

I hope they are not the devils marshmallows with the corn syrup. Only true believers choose the ones made from sugar.

The real question is how the fuck do u have ur name in bold lmao

Don't forget to make that smug "gotcha" face and act like you checkmated the non-believers. I'll tell you why I don't believe in Leprechauns though: childhood trauma.

God is far more scientific than we give him credit for as the action of our universe even existing requires 3 fundamental truths. Light has to exist, time has to exist and physics has to exist and they all had to come into existence at exactly the same point in time. They cannot exist independently not even light as we know light travels an action completely dependent upon the basic laws of motion and time itself. Time cannot exist if people cannot move or see to observe it making physics reliant upon both time and light. Light and physics cannot exist if time ever stands still. This should be enough to prove the existence of God as to blink those 3 things into existence required a power we cannot even begin comprehend. Never let stupid people in the church ever turn you from an idea God exists when science itself. Particularly quantum physics and classical physics forces us to understand that without those 3 things we would not be here and proves his existence. This goes beyond the basic understanding of the big bang and even the atomic level of science and resides in a sub atomic level of reality. If anyone can come up with a compelling reason why those 3 things can exist independently which they can't because it requires an action outside of our concept of reality (God like level). I cannot for the life of me think of a single solitary being other than God who could perform such an outrageous task. Hell is not reserved for Atheists. It is reserved for those who attempt to turn people from God through fear......aka....organized religion. Atheists deny to be governed by evil men and they have taken the largest spiritual leap as they understand that evil deeds are wrong and the church has many evil deeds under its belt. God does not live in the church. He was simply never there from the moment they chose to use their free will to crucify the human embodiment of God himself and not listen to what he had to say. Atheists are 5 times more likely to feel the love of God before anyone who adheres to the ideology of man. I cannot say enough bad things about the church itself as this belief is responsible for so much evil. Organized religion is based completely in the idea God is an evil being. God is incapable of being evil so by default organized religion is literally founded in Satanic ideology aka EVIL SHIT. Fear mongering is an evil deed and God himself said he does not abide the wicked and ignores them. The bible is simply the misinterpretation of what God said. Free will (God's greatest gift to mankind) is why he cannot stop evil things from happening as evil is simply a byproduct of free will. To deny us free will is indentured servitude which is the very idea of slavery. God said how much he hated that shit. If you have ever felt sad and lost and asked the question why do we treat each other the way we do? Then you asked exactly the same question that makes God feel the same way. Think about the sense of loss and depression and sadness of a loved one and then realize God feels that 9 billion times as much. This gives just an absolute sense of sadness for mankind as you can see most are simply oblivious to it. You govern your relationship with God not human beings and they are most certainly wrong when they attempt to do it. All anyone ever has to do is ask for him to help them understand. I assure you he will. We must remove all human influence (ignore what others say) to be able to ask him anything. I am simply suggesting all of this and no I do not pretend to know 100% the mind of God because I realized it presented me with way too many paradoxes because our reality is fixed because we make it that way. With the advent of free will God gave us a power we don't even understand as we have the ability to remove him completely or to get to know him. The bible is probably true but is largely misinterpreted to fit into the meaning of mankind's idea of societal structures and governmental control. You have to ask yourself if what people told you about God makes him seem like a socialist, fascist dictator in favor of slavery then it is proof it is misinterpreted and needs a big ass update to grow with everyone. It is a good book to get you started down the road and understand Gods existence but was only ever to start up an inquisition into how God fits into our reality. It was never meant to dictate. The simple action of saying someone will go to hell if they do not heed God's word is an action that requires the removal of free will, a gift God said was his greatest gift above all others. It is basically calling God the biggest liar of all so by default it makes organized religion inherently wrong and comprised of evil and wicked people. They could change it but most refuse thinking God will look down on them when he is probably saying "No you morons, you missed the point entirely". The biggest face palm in history was performed by God. Who knows if that face palm resulted in the Big Bang????It could have.

It's wordplay.. they're trying to sneak their god in through the backdoor. High time people let go of superstition, but I doubt it's gonna be in my lifetime.

god of the gaps argument...it will never end

Exactly. Love doesn't need temples to worship it, you don't need to go to a special place every other week to "talk" to love and have someone explain you what love means and why love is doing a certain thing.

Love is capable of sending you to hell, but not forever, and not because you don't believe in it. Rather, because you DO believe in it, but others don't.

Sorry but no applause since this so called atheist president you speak of pretends to be a believer to take advantage of the gullible theists as every other Republicans constantly does. And I hope this isn't a shock for you but Hitchens is also one of the dead guys, sadly.

Jeff C Not me, I was indoctrinated to be a Christian. Only later in life did I become an idenependent rational thinker and become athiest.

In general atheism is about what doesn't happen and theism is about what does happen to you as a child, because research has shown the most theistic areas of the world area generally the poorest and most dangerous, and even in some of the more wealthy areas it's political pressure that causes high rates of theism.

@@bmac4039 That's why i'm sort of agnostic, I don't believe in anything in particular. For me, there isn't enough proof either side to sway me.

@@bmac4039 I might give it a look, I would like to believe in a God. Hopefully, there is an afterlife where we live on with our passed loved ones ..

@@bmac4039 God is a possibility, but i agree with you as long as you aren't arguing for the existence of a theistic god.

The Diet Hipster Actually, I'm from a family that has a very strict faith in the Ancient Greek Pantheon, but when I was a child, my dog got hit by lightning, so I started to wonder why Zeus' love would permit such misery. I talked to my priest and to the local oracle, but neither proved able to strengthen my faith again. Now I'm simply a lowlife prostitute with a gambling addiction. Listen to your parents kids!

The Diet Hipster There are WAY too many supernatural accounts to be dismissed as being hoaxes. I'd recommend you look up and watch the documentary "Hell's Bells". That will show you all of the proof that you need.

Don Ray---your bar for believing things is far too low.

I think you'll find they are unsubstantiated claims of the supernatural (that's without seeing the video, I'm not trailing through 40,000 uploads of ACDC to find this video, but if you post the link I'll systematically go through each claim and tell you why it isn't verified, and therefore isn't "proof") I suspect most of these claims will be from the bases that our eyes are good instruments to measure something that is happening, they aren't, our eyes are completely and utterly unreliable, our eyes are rubbish. this is why we test, this is why we measure, this is why we use maths, because we are pretty shit at ascertaining truth without these things.

Fergus Denoon he was making a joke dumbass

I feel like Penn acts more like Jesus than a good chunk of Christians today.

I could not disagree more. These people especially "preachers" need to "called out" on what they preach and why. They are simply liars and cheats selling something that does not exist, and they likely know it.

@@juliancuratolo8928 Why would anyone want to act like someone that lived 2000 years ago. Well, maybe if they wanted to be very ignorant, callous and wrong about most things we take for granted to day. I would say you have likely insulted Jillette.

@@veronicats100 maybe stoics who also want to model someone who lived about 2000 years ago as stoics model aurelius, plato, Socrates....

To be honest I can't agree. Their questions were very prejudicial and rude. To assume that someone suffered psychological harm during childhood just because they're an atheist... yikes. Especially when the data shows the opposite... religious solace is not taken up by many people in countries with high metrics for happiness and contentness. Probably because if you're content with your life today, you are less incentivised to seek some hypothetical afterlife in the hereafter.) And then to try an monopolise the idea of love as though Christianity has intellectual property on the universal emotion of love... is just ignorance and shows a lack of empathy because he can't step out of the religious worldview and realise that Penn doesn't attribute every good human quality to some supernatural being.

Expecting special levels of respect for simply allowing the rights of free speech . . . just shows how much we have been conditioned to seeing religious people try their damnedest to shut down free thinking.

@@rmcdaniel423 more like the atheistic liberal community shutting down opposing views with their cancel culture.

@@rmcdaniel423 You dont have a right to free speech on a private platform. That's not what free speech means. It means the right to say what you want without government intervention.

Santa Clause is real. He is a Bishop in modern day Turkey. Other than him being known for giving money to the poor children he was also known for slapping a heretic.

Speak for yourself I was molested by an elf

Oh gee, who informed you that a metaphysical being cannot be sensed physically?😂

Well said.

Ikr. There have been thousands of religions in the history of mankind, but I'm supposed to believe that the one you're preaching to me at this very moment is the true one?

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Yes. it's called a secular education.

When we were child we dont think that there imaginary friends.

It's called common sense

, Your absolutely right !!!! My short story on why I took another path: In 1982 I decided to close the door definitively , but it already started in 1977 !!!! It was a forbidden thing to ask any critical biblical questions , just accept it like that , and so .... Of course , those wacky believers won't accept such a thing , it's their way or the highway !!!! Their greed for power & money ....

If you read the bible, hate can also be offered as proof that their god exists.

God and salt pillars used to be synonymous, but then God found out that too much salt was bad for your health.

Well some people love genocide therefore God is synonymous with the love of genocide.

And the slavery and rape.

I don’t think he’s done yet he’s just letting us breathe a little

"now that he's gotten all the genocide out of his system" But god and love ARE synonymous. God LOVES to watch people suffer, god LOVES to cause their suffering ( eg: the flood, watching people drowning when he could have simply erased them from existence), god LOVES to extend their suffering and show off his powers ( eg: pharaoh was ready to free the Hebrew slaves several times, then god took away his free will to keep him from freeing the slaves then god sent down a plague because pharaoh didn't free the slaves after god kept him from freeing the slaves)

Ó Slattarra well love would only be possible if good exist,by that I mean objective good not subjective. Cause yes a human could feel love but how is this nothing more than just a chemical reaction like a food that taste good? Love itself would only be possible if god exist.

Christian, its just your assumption. There is very good reason for mankind to develop emotional pair-bonding as it gives far better chance of protecting and surviving offspring. Are you saying atheists and people following (and genuinely devoted to) tioehr religions cannot love, be loved or be in love? Wouldn't that damage the whole industry of bollywood indian film making?!Love is of course possible, as is kindness, humility, generosity and respect, with or without belief in an almighty supernatural deity.

Al Heeley but is it objectively right? You still haven't answered that,because I'm pretty sure that atheist love to follow science. No where has science proven any of those be objectively correct.

love of science is not restricted to atheists. You are basically stating the old fallacy that goodness (does good = love?) and morality cannot exist outside of christianity (or insert own brand of religion here) and that has been debunked many years ago. Basic morality is the glue that holds us as social animals together, and we are stronger in groups.

Al Heeley I never said that science is restricted to atheist but science is what atheist rely on heavily to prove things, such as the big bang or that zebras are related to horses. The main point I am bringing up is that under science love is merely just a chemical reaction in the brain. Secondly you bring up that goodness and morality can exist without an authoritative standard like god, well you still haven't brung up any studies that prove that under naturalism these things are objectively right to care about others and not to harm. The third thing you raised is that "basic morality" is good for us because we are social animal's and that we are stronger in groups, but from what I see from animal's that are in groups infact our closest related animal cousin the chimpanzee, have been known in the wild to kill other chimps in their own group and also kill other chimps to eat or just for territory, so would you say that those actions are objectively wrong? If not and these are neutral acts then under your worldview such thing's as war and murder to benefit a side or country are indeed completely neutral aswell. Because if we are merely sophisticated animal's then nothing is wrong with killing someone, chimps kill other chimps all the time aswell but is that objectively wrong? And if so prove it.

Looool well said

my love for the deliciousness of pasta makes The flying spaghetti monster exist

Odin promised the end of all Ice Giants...i don't see any Ice Giants

How the fuck religious nutjobs can come up with this shitty ideas and arguments. go away seriously

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you claim you did not say anything to the person but the you go on to vividly describe their actions. specifically, "teaching them about an invisible, supernatural father figure who watches to see if you are good or bad and only rewards those...". I can only assume since you did not ask her about her situation, that these are assumptions that you made and possibly your specific outlook on the situation??? in other words, is it not possible that you are missing some vital information to their outlook and/or projecting your own assumptions to their situation?

he sends u to hell for not loving him

Can you worship Jesus Christ, but denounce God? Because in your book, God is an evil entity that is driven by absolution and is dictator fascist to send the lesser beings into eternal torture which he created to be a kingdom for rebelling angels, souls etc. to suffer and get tainted into darkness, but his son Jesus is actually the martyr and savior of the people. This God sounds like Hitler or Stalin to me; make all the ones you don't like *poof!* *disappear*

@brad renfroe Oh yeah the great sacrifice Jesus supposedly made where he died for our sins and then came back to life days later, what a sacrifice. Btw according to the bible god made those rules not us. But then again he's such a good judge and so righteous he had to wipe out the majority of life on earth except for one family and some animals, sounds to me like he's the one that continually screwed things up and then punished us for it. Good thing it's just made up though. C'mon though god through some divine miracle, aka rape, impregnates a human woman who births his son, he then let's his so called son sacrifice himself for our sins but then let's him come back later and that was what it took for us to be saved as long as we bend the knee and love and worship him. Sounds like a right load of nonsense to me. Also based on what you said "Jesus died on the cross for us to pay for the sins of the world with His life so that anyone who accepts Him as savior can be found innocent in the eyes of God and be able to see heaven one day" that means you could be the worst kind of person on earth but as long as you accept him as your savior you have a golden ticket, that's some good old fashioned morality right there, but that take differs depending on which Christian you talk to since not even Christians themselves can agree on anything most of the time.

@@hairtrigger8317 you forgot the fact that the family that he selected to survive was one where the father drunkenly raped his own daughters.

@@hairtrigger8317 your comments are proof that you fail to understand justice and consequences. God gave a set rules, just like governments do. If you break those rules, even if you think they're unfair (like taxes), you won't get rewarded, but punished. If you steal, you'll get punished. If you kill, you'll get punished. Adam and Eve did something they were not supposed to, and were punished. Christ came to undo the consequences, which are very much strong in our lives. And no matter how much you repeat it's not, this is very real.

That is precisely his point. He is quoted elsewhere as having been challenged by a Christian that if he doesn't believe God as a moral compass, then what stops him from raping and murdering as much as he wants. His reply is that he rapes and murders as much as he wants, and that amount is ZERO, but what is more disturbing is the thought of some Christians that, without God, they would rape and murder.

Rea Ality First time I've seen someone talk so much sense in a KZfaq comment. Atheists do good things without the expectancy of an eternal life. I couldn't think of any better person than someone who would be kind and loving without expecting a reward in return.

I love without God. I think I know myself better than he does. And while we're at it, which "god" do I have? Is it the same one you have? Or is it different? I bet it's the Christian "god". Why? Because he's christian. I apologize for my rant.

It's a little bit repulsive when they do this, I don't fit in a box with my religious beliefs, so there's a target on my back. I know myself better than a couple of my (Christian) freinds know themselves. It's crazy how stubborn they are in their belief of Christianity.

Well if you are an atheist..you believe love is nothing more that neurons and chemical reactions

@@thegrigs777 lmao what stupid nonsense

@@thegrigs777 yes

lol. I think we should run an experiment in trying to get these people to believe in the flat earth theory.

Yeah its getting on my nerves, just because I don't believe in any mainstream religion, just because I do and don't believe in the possibility of a god, doesn't mean you can sneak and enforce your beliefs on me. It's repulsive...

How are atheists not bias?? You formed an opinion, human behavior dictates once you form an opinion you are always going to be bias towards your opinion. So as I keep saying Atheist are no different than people who believe in God, they also will fail to see the hypocrisy in their statements and what they believe. They even say it as if they know it is a fact God does not exist, making a statement of knowing means you know for a fact. But they don't. The honest answer is made by Agnostic people. Thats an honest "I don't know". They make no claim that they know. Thats admirable. Atheism is stupid because it is most certainly an assertion God doesn't exist and assertions require explanation (even in court). Unwilling to do that then its a stupid belief made for a stupid reason. Here I'll even prove it. Atheist: There is no God. Theist: What gave you that idea? Atheist: I don't have to prove anything. then comes the SJW storm off. Thats about how that goes every time. Its so predictable that you can set a goddamn clock to it. You have your preachers peddling their books, you just call them lectures. They literally try to convince you to be an atheist because it affects their bottom line. WTF. That is literally the same shit. They even claim you will reach a level of understanding greater than those around you.......oh you mean they reach righteousness???? Yep its the same shit, its a linear form of organized religion, you people even incorporate a villain, you call them "Theist's" (that your devil) and basically chastise your own specie. But sure you people are smarter........OK if blindly following shit without knowing why you are following it and then being a dick to people who oppose it then sure you're smarter. Thinking you are in some kind of exclusive club then yeah you traded one system for exactly the same system and just too dim witted to realize thats what you did. Cue all the atheist's who are about to be butt hurt after reading this. Won't make it any less true.

He gets nothing out of that... He's much better off being nice

No, he wouldn't. I've known Penn for 30 years. He's always polite and respectful, even of people who disagree with him, if they do so in good faith, and with good intent. He's accepted bibles from fans, and thanked them.

Mmm that's another mischaracterisation of Einstein's beliefs. He made it explicitly clear that he did not belief in any diety, much less the Judeo-Christian one.

It's because they've never known anything else, it was ingrained into them since childhood.

Many time this is true, I don't fit in a box when it comes to religion so they always target me, I end up getting a conversation about god, right after I explained my religious beliefs, makes you want to scream sometimes.

Type in on you tube. Three Athiests who died and went to hell. Tortured in hell lived to tell. 23 minutes in hell. Proof we are spiritual beings by God. Shawn weed. Christine eastell. Many more my ignorant friend. Repent or perish. Beileve in jesus and take Him as your Lord and savior. before its to late for you.

@@jesuschristislord9792 I don't believe you.

I dont no how to tell you this but ive interveiwed over five thousand people who have come out of there bodys and looked down on them selves some went to hell were they had there arms and legs ripped off comes back ripped off comes back and so on. you can forget about leaving this planet unscaved wen your times up it will never happen without jesus. Theres a posh lady who went to hell on you tube type in christine eastell. Theres a us soldier who went to hell type in shawn weed. My out of body testimonys and God's judgnent in part2 type in proof we are spiritual beings by God. Last and not least type in three Atheists who died and went to hell. Oh by the way your not soppose to believe your soppose to be tricked and then go to hell thats whats been happening for the last 2000 years Gods having mercy on you lets see if you figure it out

+buddybleau Always reminds me of George Carlin's bit on God. "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!" Religion is the biggest con mankind has ever pulled. And Christianity actually goes against what Jesus supposedly taught. The man was anti-religion. And what happens? People build a religion around him. It's like they don't get the central message of just "be excellent to each other". And strangely enough Penn is a better representation of that than these charlatans in their $1000 suits, Rolex watches and expensive cars.

@@danielcooper1294 You say you don't want to start something but you immediately call Penn an antitheist. You want to point to me where he's said that he's against theism or theists? The term is atheist and it's somebody that doesn't believe that God exists. That's all the baggage you can unpack from that word. As to the next part, it's really stupid unless the judge in this case decides to send the son to the basement where he'll be tortured every second of every day for the rest of his life just because he, as you put it, had fallen short of the standard for innocence. Now dan you tell me of any crime so heinous that torture for the rest of your life is an acceptable punishment? Remember, we're using your terms here. And then the same judge will condemn somebody else to the basement torture room simply because they don't believe the judge has any real power. That's their only crime. They're a good person who has never done anything bad but just for that they'll be tortured for the rest of their lives. Is that fair? Of course not. So how can it be fair for God to send somebody to hell for the simple act of non-belief? I don't believe in God. I've never killed anybody. I've never stolen from anybody. I've never raped anybody or committed a crime so foul as to be charged with anything. And yet your God will send me to hell simply because I don't believe he exists. And you wonder why atheists just shake their head in wonder in how Christians can actually believe this crap.

@@danielcooper1294 "Firstly, I never claimed to not understand" - But you don't understand. It's evident in your words and your choice to use "antitheist" instead of "atheist". Penn himself has said on one of his Penn Speaks bits that he expected and actually welcomed people talking to him about God not because he believed in such a being but because *they* did and *they* were doing it out of their desire for him not to go to hell. It didn't matter if he's a non-believer. They're believers and they're the ones that are concerned with his afterlife. And in that he feels they're acting in a way that is in line with their beliefs. How is that being an antitheist who is one who is against God or against the idea of God? In fact here's a video of him mentioning this. It's already cued to the right point: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bNOUaZZp2NO1lGw.html The man is not an antitheist. He's an atheist. What I object to is your cavalier use of term which carries baggage. No, he'll do so because I don't believe. Here's the thing I searched for God when I was younger. I grew up an atheist but I never read the bible and in my late teens figured I really ought to give it a try. So I read it cover to cover with the intention of letting it take me wherever it would. If the words "reached me" I'd go with that. But I get to the end and all I could think about was how much of a slog the OT was and how there were so many contradictions in it where one story contradicted another. I then went out and spoke to priests and pastors and padres and whomever I could get a couple minutes with to try to understand what was going on. And they all told me the same thing. I needed to pray and invite him into my life. That the words didn't matter so much as the sentiment behind it. So that night I did. I got on my knees, made myself as humble as I could and I just prayed. I said all the words I could think of and invited him into my life. And nothing happened. There was no great feeling of warmth, no light in my heart, no burning bush, no image of Buddy Christ giving me the thumbs up. Noting had changed. For the next week I was waiting for something to happen. Maybe see a miracle. Or hear a thunder on a clear day. Or I don't know but life just went on as it normally did. Now God knows my mind right? God is able to peer into my heart and he knows that I require evidence to believe in something. I can't just believe in something that doesn't have evidence. Personally I think it's impossible for anybody to do so without fooling themselves into doing so. I can only gather two things from that. Either God doesn't exist which would make the most sense. Or he doesn't want to know me.

Sounds disgusting

@@danielcooper1294 he’s atheist not Antitheist

Have you ever wondered how black people in the U.S. became Christian? The BuyBull condones slavery(Leviticus 25:44-46) and says slaves should obey their masters(through out the New Testament) with the fear of God and the slaves with believeing masters shall not retaliate against their masters but are to serve them better and if they do that then they'll be rewarded in heaven(when they're dead). Now there's no proof of heaven or that they'll be rewarded but just take it on faith.

There's still time for you, I know many atheists who've had it easy and something changes their mind

No, atheism is just a very comfortable position that many choose for convenient reason. Reason (which you didn't even spell correctly) isn't the cause of atheism. Pride and arrogance, on the other hand, is.

"If a god existed, you would know it as fact." How?

Whitney D. I think he means that if god existed there would be proof. *I think.*

I think he means that people cant say ''god exists'', because there is no evidence (believes dont count). Ofcourse you CAN say it, but its wrong. Even if god exists, it would be wrong to claim something like: ''I know god exsists''. Simply because we cant confirm it.

Exactly, if god was real and we didn’t believe in him, then that would just be his fault for providing the lack of evidence.

He's nice to everyone except Kreskin. 😂

You'll have to explain the reference to me.

unlike religion penn doesn't push his beliefs on other people

That was good Jacob I’m glad you agree they are conmen

Not when they look that guest in the face and deliberately distort what he just said.

Not in this case. They didn’t have him because they were open to his ideas. They wanted to prove him wrong. He was just a piñata for their bias-confirming circle jerk.

So when did you lose your mind and why? ;-)

In our genes? True, but who put them in our genes? Some random, unguided process? Probably not. Everything that we see around us (i.e., a car, house, iPhone) had a creator, and we are infinitely more complex than any of those items.

@@marilynwong9784 go watch a couple Richard dawkins videos on the subject. He'll explain to you why your wrong. That example of cars and technology etc etc having a creator therefore humans need a creator is false. He tackles that question often trust me. It's an old theist standby.

Jay's World Of Magic & Mystery You really believe we got here by chance? Something as unbelievably complex as humans? The analogy of the car is a perfect one - if you stumbled upon a car for the very first time you wouldn’t believe it just came out of nowhere. You would marvel at it, and wonder who created it. As humans, we are infinitely more complex than a car, so it clearly indicates there was a creator. It’s really just common sense.

Jay's World Of Magic & Mystery You can put your faith and trust in Richard Dawkins, but he won’t be there with you when you have to stand before God one day.

@@marilynwong9784 believe what you will. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Believing in a creator god is easy, it takes no work or study. You just have to have faith in it. If you want to understand how humans came to be, you can read the research that explains how simple one celled organisms transformed into what we know as humans today. The information is out there. A snowflake is a complex and beautiful thing, none of which are the same. Yet they were not created by anything. The raw materials for building a car are far more complex and do not exist as is in nature. All of the ingredients, which are actually pretty basic, very abundant and common for making life are all over the universe.

I mean, chocolate companies are getting african water supplies these days, so I wouldn't rule it out.

inkwell flood When you feed the poor, that is Love. That is what Jesus advocated that we do.

I actually will agree, but not because "God isn't real". They didn't quite explain themselves right.

And allows babies to die at the rate of 7 a minute

And sends you to hell if you dont believe in him

Read that bible and if you see love your ass just don't know how to read, or dyslexic or something.

Though I agree with you and am an atheist, you're exaggerating a bit by playing a victim. People who get offended all the time are really annoying.

It's not that such things make me feel victimized, and I want nothing less than to be constantly offended, but the idea that I'm simply who I am, how I am, because something made me sad, the idea that if I had a better more sparkly love-filled childhood that means that I would believe Santa Clause was real, just pisses me off. This idea that I chose to not accept a story with so many holes it couldn't catch a whale shark because I blame a god or lack thereof for my less than great parts of life is an extremely discounting and rude idea, it invalidates me and provides a barrier to hide behind preventing any argument I could make from holding any weight with those hearing it. Especially since it's not MY life that makes me take this stance. When I have someone tell me that god is all-loving and all-powerful, that he wants only the best for all, it's not my issues that I think of. It's the children starving to death right now in other nations and even our own in places supposedly most touched by this "god". It's the people who act with the intent to harm others, sometimes BECAUSE they think their god wants it. The people who cheer when there is death, or disasters. The people who say god is all-good, and made all things, and then blames this straw-man idea of a devil for things that do not jive with their first claim. The idea that I have to be a victim to be against these ideas, that I have to feel like I'm being bullied at school, is just another insult. I have the right to argue my point, and to say what I need to to be clear, and frankly, this idea that I somehow need to feel like I'm being attacked to have reason to speak up is bullshit.

I think you're misunderstanding me. I believe that all religions are nothing but myths and that people are relating to them because they're a part of their identity rather than actually thinking about what it means to believe in their religion. Basically, I'm on your side, and for that reason think that all religions should be debated. It's just the approach you're using, which makes it sound like you're crying about it (which I'm not saying you ARE - it just comes off as that), that I complained about. I never said that you had to be a victim to be against the ideas or anything like that. Just beware not to sound like a drama queen, for the simple reason of it sounding annoying.

If the goal in speaking to people is to not annoy them, you have entered into a realm of superficial posturing wherein you pretend to capitulate to their intents and opinions, rather than trying to get your point across. If someone intends to confront me, alleging that my choice in lack of faith is because something bad happened to me in my past, I reserve the right to get offended and respond as disrespectfully as I feel they met me. I will not hold back my thoughts and emotions because someone might not approve. I will not stay on a neutral plane so as to "not stoop to their level". I will not pretend they did not offend me, and I will not pretend they have no right to be offended. That is disingenuous, rude, and condescending. I would rather annoy someone, than let them think I see them, fellow humans, as my lesser, regardless of their chosen ideologies.

I do things out of spite There are certain foods that will make us sick.

I would think finding evidence that this Jesus fella is the "Christ" would be more important. Because otherwise you can be duped into believing a false religion. Likewise, if you were raised to pray to Allah, it would be more important to try to verify the accuracy of Islam, before you waste your life praying to a deity that doesn't exist.

Demonstrate that what you just said is actually True & then I’ll listen to you.

We need more commenters like you

God is love. Love is blind. Ray Charles was blind. Ray Charles dead. So god no longer exist. Checkmate You see saying something really stupid proves nothing. Even when I follow it with checkmate. When one person hears an invisible man talking he institutionalized When 100 people here invisible man talking they call it a cult. When I thousand people here in invisible man talking they call it religion. Then they get to condemn you because you don’t hear the invisible man talking. Then they will burn you at the stake, throw stones at you until you are dead, or worse yet try to force you to become part of their invisible man murder circle.

dishonest?