Penn State beats Iowa and Iowa Coach Brands is MAD!

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3 ай бұрын

Iowa Wrestling coach, Tom Brands, holds a press conference after Penn State downed Iowa, 29-6 on February 9, 2024. Please Like And Subscribe

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@gregwhitsel5052
@gregwhitsel5052 3 ай бұрын
I think it’s safe to go ahead and put Penn State on a pedestal
@jimmygolfbjj
@jimmygolfbjj 3 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@scott729
@scott729 3 ай бұрын
.... and fully "concede"
@everythingmatterstheory7043
@everythingmatterstheory7043 3 ай бұрын
@jomama969
@jomama969 3 ай бұрын
Iowa City may be Wrestletown, USA. But Happy Valley is Titletown, USA.
@theduder232
@theduder232 3 ай бұрын
100% would rather have my kid coached by Cael than this maniac.
@pauls8879
@pauls8879 3 ай бұрын
The different coaching philosophies between the two coaches are stricking
@tommycryptic
@tommycryptic 3 ай бұрын
Very stricking, whatever that means
@pauls8879
@pauls8879 3 ай бұрын
Very different approaches to meet the same end
@combatspeed6392
@combatspeed6392 3 ай бұрын
The Brands philosophy is focused on winning championships.the Sanderson philosophy is focused on being the best wrestler you can possibly be. Ironically the one focused on being your best, is the one that produces more championships.
@jomama969
@jomama969 3 ай бұрын
@@combatspeed6392Yup. Iowa and Penn State have their own common trends- Iowa wrestlers tend to make noise and turn heads in their freshman and sophomore seasons only to stall out their junior and senior seasons. Penn State wrestlers tend to improve in their performance every year.
@mikeslear6291
@mikeslear6291 3 ай бұрын
Even when over half his team was from Pennsylvania he couldn’t beat them 😂😂😂😂
@davidpetersen9276
@davidpetersen9276 2 ай бұрын
Pennsylvania has always been the hot bed. It's why Cael left ISU to go there. He couldn't recruit the top level from Pennsylvania so he ran away.
@floydrigby1587
@floydrigby1587 3 ай бұрын
One is just a regular coach, the other builds character, strength and leaders, not just talk and bravissimo. One is a lot of talk, the other completes his work in training and quietly sits by to support his warriors.
@willgregory9848
@willgregory9848 3 ай бұрын
what?!
@TimM-wk1zx
@TimM-wk1zx 3 ай бұрын
He’s kindly saying that the world has passed by Brands
@JD-qr5iy
@JD-qr5iy 3 ай бұрын
it’s easy to sit and support when you have every, literally every call goes your way-and when one doesn’t you just challenge and the challenge goes your way. I more so talking about nationals not this particular meet but Cael most definitely doesn’t just sit there calmly when things don’t go his way-Taylor/cox
@JD-qr5iy
@JD-qr5iy 3 ай бұрын
before any and all transfers ended up at Penn state it’s not like cael is a model of character-he perhaps took the biggest thug lowlife transfer ever from Iowa st and tell me again why suriano left psu
@floydrigby1587
@floydrigby1587 3 ай бұрын
@@JD-qr5iy Naturally, and neither would you. This isn't about challenging, it's about deep respect for the sport and handling yourself like an adult and instructor rather then ranting like Brands. Cael is strongly behind his athletes and reacts accordingly, but when you look at his history his actions are respectful and he takes defeat like a gentleman. Did you catch Brands reaction to the meet? Total idiot, still ranting. The athlete's deserve better. No respect for him. (BTW Taylor, if I am ever in a fight I want Cael there for me, no ranting, just action:)
@JG-re2bb
@JG-re2bb 3 ай бұрын
Brands never has a coherent answer to any questions
@MikeHoffey
@MikeHoffey 3 ай бұрын
The same excuses over and over. Enough of how much you love your guys and like our guys. Talk about technically how superior the opponent was and what as a coach he can take away from that to better his squad.
@sshhhhh9227
@sshhhhh9227 3 ай бұрын
Shut you’re damn mouth Mike were sick of you
@joshshimak1622
@joshshimak1622 3 ай бұрын
Cry more.
@bryanthanos7871
@bryanthanos7871 2 ай бұрын
Brands is a Neanderthal that doesn't understand technique. He thinks all losses can be attributed to not wrestling "tough" enough
@gosiahodge3462
@gosiahodge3462 3 ай бұрын
Iowa wrestling reminds me of Penn State football...both once great..now with coaches who talk the talk but dont walk the walk.
@ericday2427
@ericday2427 3 ай бұрын
Franklin the fraud! He definitely has to go
@ajnewhouse6217
@ajnewhouse6217 3 ай бұрын
the only difference is iowa is always 2nd while penn state is always 3rd
@mattfore6824
@mattfore6824 3 ай бұрын
I never have confidence that Brands will have his team ready for any important duel or tournament.
@tommycryptic
@tommycryptic 3 ай бұрын
Yet he's won 4 team titles, I'm sure you could do better recruiting and managing college kids
@scott729
@scott729 3 ай бұрын
@@tommycryptic No he couldn't. That is why he isn't sitting in that seat. But his comment is valid. When was the last "team title", hotshot? Why do people like you always throw that comment around when you are frustrated after someone points out a flaw in a coach or athlete that you are fond of? If you disagree, why not disagree with something that has substance, instead of attacking the person that made the comment? Weak, dude.
@mattfore6824
@mattfore6824 3 ай бұрын
I absolutely could not do better. I just have no confidence that the coach can do better.
@joegreen9629
@joegreen9629 3 ай бұрын
The NCAA championships is what it’s all about and he’s won 1 in his 17 seasons. C’mon man!
@jstrusins8753
@jstrusins8753 3 ай бұрын
Could Brands time at Iowa be nearing the end? @@joegreen9629
@joedepersis4296
@joedepersis4296 3 ай бұрын
Everyone seems to forget Cael wasn't beating Iowa when he was at Iowa State... Great move on his part to PSU and he is still thriving with the new era of NIL.
@antisocialextrovert5062
@antisocialextrovert5062 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like an excuse to disregard Cael’s and PSU’s success
@joedepersis4296
@joedepersis4296 3 ай бұрын
@antisocialextrovert5062 Just spewing facts. At ISU finished 2nd, 5th, 3rd. The Move to PSU finished 9,1,1,1,1. Pretty solid move according to statistics. Even he said by moving to PSU there is a bigger talent pool. So don't be so defensive, Francis.
@TimM-wk1zx
@TimM-wk1zx 3 ай бұрын
It’s a backhanded compliment….Taylor and others were on the way to Iowa State, and the wins would have come, just not as fast as immersing yourself in the best talent pool there is. Also, I believe up until this incoming next year, Iowa STATISTICALLY has gotten higher ranked recruits than PENN STATE in the last few years. Where is the production. And what will Cael do with the incoming number 1 class? Lillendahl, Duke, Sealey, Mirasola’s….What happens if he gets Bassett in 2 years? If you wanna see development, watch the Haines/Franek match, and watch Levi grab Frank’s wrist and control his arm, and fight off a good TD attempt by Franek, and in turn, get the TD. Plz tell me the last time you’ve seen that. Cael is getting better production through a better environment for kids. If you don’t think that Dual was the best recruiting video for potential new kids coming in, you are kidding yourself.
@combatspeed6392
@combatspeed6392 3 ай бұрын
If the team "Wasn't Ready" that's on you Coach Brands. Its YOUR JOB to get these guys ready, and if you're saying "WE WEREN'T READY" you failed at preparing your guys.
@TimM-wk1zx
@TimM-wk1zx 3 ай бұрын
Have u in memory, heard a wrestling coach throw a wrestler “FRANEK” under the bus like Tom did? Maybe he doesn’t LOVE that transfer so much.
@lenbenfante5013
@lenbenfante5013 3 ай бұрын
Brands might not be the answer in IC anymore, but the real question is does it even matter? The Mecca of American Amateur Wrestling is located in Central Pennsylvania with no change in sight. The best recruiting ground in America is in PA, Ohio, and NY/NJ. The best post collegiate training program is The NLWC in State College, PA. The top junior club in America M2, headed by one of the greatest Nittany Lions of all time is right nearby. There is even a growing MMA Gym sponsored by American Top Team that Nickal, Cassar, and others train at after leaving school. All of this is overseen by the greatest American Wrestler of all time. It’s a fantastic time to be a Lion Fan not so much for everyone else.
@wesmcfadden9860
@wesmcfadden9860 3 ай бұрын
Excuses will be excuses, all I hear is "we need to step up our recruiting game". This is why Iowa will always be #2 to PSU...
@billgadient8567
@billgadient8567 3 ай бұрын
Can we please get an actual answer to the questions presented and reassure us you know what you're doing.
@everythingmatterstheory7043
@everythingmatterstheory7043 3 ай бұрын
No. Just keep going harder theory.
@bryanthanos7871
@bryanthanos7871 2 ай бұрын
@@everythingmatterstheory7043 Exactly! If you didn't win its cause you didnt wrestle hard enough
@Coffee993
@Coffee993 3 ай бұрын
Iowa needs a coaching change. Get one of Cael’s assistants or something
@cburns1398
@cburns1398 3 ай бұрын
Ouch!
@frankrizzo6316
@frankrizzo6316 3 ай бұрын
Hard facts
@michaelhayes6209
@michaelhayes6209 3 ай бұрын
Agree
@opaca512
@opaca512 3 ай бұрын
How Iowa wrestlers are always injured needs investigation!
@marcelmallory2761
@marcelmallory2761 3 ай бұрын
I have said for years that I feel that the Iowa guys are overtrained. They are broken after 3/4 of the season is over. When they are supposed to be peaking they are just trying to stay close to healthy.
@bmichael2291
@bmichael2291 3 ай бұрын
Brands is always mad. The people are asking questions are obviously intimidated by Brands so they don't ask tough questions.
@kineticsage8137
@kineticsage8137 3 ай бұрын
Think Iowa wrestlers lack creativity. Great foundation, yet, ultimately, wrestling is an individual sport and kids/adults need to explore
@joelmiller4623
@joelmiller4623 3 ай бұрын
"Be ready!" that's good analysis there! "Keep scoring" more high level analysis
@joshshimak1622
@joshshimak1622 3 ай бұрын
He also talked about take downs and riding time. And other aspects. You are a hater.
@randyritchey1193
@randyritchey1193 3 ай бұрын
No transfers get better results at the NCAA championships when coming to Iowa.
@gregoryderosa8045
@gregoryderosa8045 3 ай бұрын
You can only be so ready! Penn state just HOLE different level.
@andrewbradley4160
@andrewbradley4160 3 ай бұрын
Iowa has better recruits but gets worked , but you aren’t gonna get Cael so this is the best you got plus wrestlers like him
@pb12661
@pb12661 3 ай бұрын
these coaches are all egomaniacs.
@antisocialmedia2507
@antisocialmedia2507 3 ай бұрын
The Brands brothers can teach you how to wrestle but so can every other D1 coach. Cael went to PSU bc he knew he would get great talent from the east coast. Once the country saw what he was doing it drew the best from everywhere. His staff is great at making sure they peak and are healthy at the right time. Wrestling is inherently tough, the kids dont need to GRIND every minute of every practice year round. I wont pretend to know what it is like at iowa but it is becoming the place blue chippers go to stagnate. Aaron Brooks looks small at 197 but Cael and staff just figure out what works best for him there. It is where he wants to be so they just support him. Tom and Terry seem to think iowa is sparta and you just weed out the weak by grinding. I am a PA wrestling fan but forgot, until I was at Hershey last year, that kaleb young won a state title at 160 his senior year. He wrestled 157 his final year at iowa. I watched him lift and mat return guys his freshman year at iowa one arm. He was strong enough for 165 or 174. He had to suffer to maintain that weight his whole career. I dont doubt that they love their guys but they are becoming obsolete. If you cant adapt you become extinct.
@michaelfitzgerald3467
@michaelfitzgerald3467 3 ай бұрын
Didn't the Brands wrestle under coach Dan Gable? Very old school mentality, I imagine. Sanderson is a 21st century athlete and sportsman. Sports medicine and physiology really began to develop through the 80's and 90's, and the science has improved exponentially in these years since the turn of the century. The difference between the methods and mindsets of today versus the 70's is like the difference between the old wild west and the modern western world.
@AlanCleggYouDoAV
@AlanCleggYouDoAV 3 ай бұрын
He’s an amazing coach! Too many people calling for his job. Thats crazy! Penn State is beating EVERYBODY. THERE IS NOBODY BETTER THAN TOM BRANDS TO BEAT CAEL AND PENN STATE. Penn State is doing something over there that NOBODY has figured out or else they would be beating Penn State too. Tom Brands produces highly competitive wrestlers year after year and adds to the legacy of Iowa wrestling. Replace him and Iowa will fall from the top 3 to the top 10.
@christopherlehigh2705
@christopherlehigh2705 3 ай бұрын
Now I know where DeSanto got his bipolar issue from 😂
@gregoryderosa8045
@gregoryderosa8045 3 ай бұрын
Loo😂
@matthewlee8618
@matthewlee8618 3 ай бұрын
They held Arnold out because they were scared simple as that
@jiujitsuislife4256
@jiujitsuislife4256 3 ай бұрын
Is it possibly time for a change in Head Coaches/wrestling philosophy at Iowa? Are there any other Iowa legends that are qualified to coach Iowa?
@TimM-wk1zx
@TimM-wk1zx 3 ай бұрын
That’s the issue….Why does it have to be an Iowa legend?
@baileyy5081
@baileyy5081 3 ай бұрын
Spencer leeeee in the future
@jiujitsuislife4256
@jiujitsuislife4256 3 ай бұрын
@@TimM-wk1zx good point
@dangerpowers4582
@dangerpowers4582 3 ай бұрын
I hope Iowa's best wrestler's transfer to other schools; Iowa needs a new head coach.
@mikeefren6752
@mikeefren6752 3 ай бұрын
Storms off!!
@peregrinesmith1117
@peregrinesmith1117 3 ай бұрын
He will be mad and unemployed if he doesn't get his act together.
@l.rongardner2150
@l.rongardner2150 3 ай бұрын
Tom should retire as a wrestling coach and become a Clicheology Professor at Iowa. Seriously, I doubt there is cliche he isn't familiar with.
@scott729
@scott729 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣 ..... fan the AJ fire I suppose is what he was getting at. They get old for sure.
@user-qm7uv5oh8z
@user-qm7uv5oh8z 3 ай бұрын
WE ARE
@maliklowry1236
@maliklowry1236 3 ай бұрын
"You got to be ready". Isn't that a coaches job, have your team mentally ready?
@williamoleary9330
@williamoleary9330 3 ай бұрын
Well at least he did this type of interview after a loss. It was frustrating not to see him after last years loss to Penn State and then not doing one like this after the loss to Michigan. We want to hear from our Coach win or lose. This can be fixed, it absolutely can. We need to get more guys in there that fit the Iowa style. It’s clear a lot of these guys don’t. Go Hawks!
@ronaldniec3782
@ronaldniec3782 3 ай бұрын
It’s TIME, Iowa will NEVER beat PSU with Brands, every Dual Meet vs PSU they get Smoked and you just gave him an extension a yr ago You have to eat it. It’s time, I am tired of PSU, in YOUR OWN HOUSE YET. Their laughing the whole Bus Ride Home.
@gregorywilson9322
@gregorywilson9322 3 ай бұрын
Bus ride was to the airport...
@MT-wo5fs
@MT-wo5fs 3 ай бұрын
They already have and did when they won the B1G & National championship!
@ciriloreyes3184
@ciriloreyes3184 3 ай бұрын
At some point some needs to bring up the elephant in the room, brands brothers have to go, I grew up idolizing these guys but the performance that they are getting out of there wrestlers isn't cutting it, iowa was used to winning and now we have become accustomed to coming n second, penn literally justs keeps getting better and better, from there recruiting to there development of getting better every year while they are there, so many iowa wrestlers either stagnant or get worst, woods was supposed to win it and he loses to a guy he beat last year who dominates him this year, amd then a freshman whips his butt, Jacob Warner cassioppi the list goes on, I am tired of it, the brands brothers were lions so I am not taking absolutely anything away from there wrestling skills but i remember very few matches were they weren't trying to pin or tech u, the guys besides Lee obviously just do ground and pound and forget they need takedowns to win or they need to be on point that when someone attempts to score they can't, I am tired of iowa losing to penn and at this point as long as cael stays and brands brothers stay we will keep coming n second, I can't see a power house like Alabama football keeping there same coach for the last 10 years keeps getting them to the 2nd place trophy so why are we ok when it comes to wrestling, do we not deserve better too??????
@kingcj11207
@kingcj11207 3 ай бұрын
Well the dual showed me something everyone knows. Iowa not only burns their guys out but can't develop them past a certain point. Besides Spencer lee (and it can be argued he would've dominated in most programs) and cory clarke 7 years ago Iowa hasn't had a champ that was homegrown. They depend on the transfer portal too much.
@combatspeed6392
@combatspeed6392 3 ай бұрын
​@@kingcj11207its not an arguement that Spencer would have also been dominant at other programs. Lee cohld have gone to a bottom D1 progra, and still won NCAAs. Iowa needed Lee more than Lee needed Iowa. He made a huge mistake going to Iowa. He would have been head and shoulders healthier and better had he gone to a program that didnt run him physically in the ground.
@matthewlee8618
@matthewlee8618 3 ай бұрын
@@combatspeed6392100% such a shame. I do not understand how you can have penn state in your home state and go to Iowa even having your clubs coach being from Iowa. I wanted to go to ASU cuz my coach wrestled at Oregon state haha
@LEcoolJ8
@LEcoolJ8 3 ай бұрын
@@matthewlee8618wow, idk how I didn’t know he was from Pennsylvania and still didn’t choose penn state. I’m hoping he still does great things but there’s no doubt about it that choosing Iowa was a big mistake
@johnfraleee
@johnfraleee 3 ай бұрын
I catch myself thinking if Iowa wants to compete with Penn St, they need to get rid of Brands and Co. Then I think back and they won a title 2 years ago and should’ve won 2 in a row there. They are a perennial top 3 team, which says a lot. I think (could be wrong) that they should get better assistants. Morningstar and Telford are probably great coaches, but it’s Iowa, they could probably do better . They need to get a couple guys, say Alex Dieringer, where they can learn to coach for the next few years but still provide elite world level skill. They need to bring an outside technique to the coaching. Someone like Jason Nolf would be perfect, but is obviously a long shot. Just my 2 cents, but I’d bet many people would agree they need to change something or continue to win one title every decade to Penn States 8. Unless Iowa gets an amazing recruiting class, Penn st. Is going to cruise for another 2-3 years unchallenged.
@hawkman2111
@hawkman2111 3 ай бұрын
I would hire Lincoln Mcilravy as a assistant coach and Spencer Lee.Its crazy to talk about gettting rid of a coach who won a national title just a couple years ago.
@floydrigby1587
@floydrigby1587 3 ай бұрын
He has all my respect as a wrestler, he simply does not bring all his magnificent skills from the mat to coaching. He represented all of us in this country. That does not mean he can utilize all that ability as a coach and an example to his athletes and Iowa.
@Ryan_YoungUSA
@Ryan_YoungUSA 3 ай бұрын
Fastest exit ever
@ericday2427
@ericday2427 3 ай бұрын
Woods was Iowa's only hope 😂
@LMM42424
@LMM42424 3 ай бұрын
How many times can you say ready?
@scott729
@scott729 3 ай бұрын
Lol. Okay, Tom. The truth is that Penn State and Co. are better in every category. From scouting recruits and convincing them to come to PS, scouting opponents, performance on the mat....and one of the most impressive is the staff's ability to develop young wrestlers. There is nothing you could have done that would change the outcome of this dual. You got your butts whipped by a much better team Tom, admit it. By the way, that is two ass-whippings this month. Stop acting like you are the toughest guy in the room.
@JD-qr5iy
@JD-qr5iy 3 ай бұрын
Unless Cael was in the room I’d bet he was by far the toughest guy in the room
@scott729
@scott729 3 ай бұрын
@@JD-qr5iy Yeah, I get that he is HC, but he doesn't have to act the way he does. He is all of what, 5-8 145 lbs? Gets old.
@thekingslayer8463
@thekingslayer8463 3 ай бұрын
Guys lost fair and square at home. No excuses, Penn State is clearly the better program. Get over it.
@stephenshippos4604
@stephenshippos4604 2 ай бұрын
Ready is one thing...But better is issue.
@Steveo47dog
@Steveo47dog 3 ай бұрын
Iowa is arguably the second best team in the country. Who are you going to get that’s better to coach them?
@combatspeed6392
@combatspeed6392 3 ай бұрын
Yea stick with that mindset and you will be "arguably" 2nd forever. Fans like you are the real problem, not Brands.
@billysilva6388
@billysilva6388 3 ай бұрын
Are you sure! Looks like OSU just passed them on the polls. Penn state is number 1 by miles.
@oddlycanteven2960
@oddlycanteven2960 3 ай бұрын
Third best lolz
@matthewlee8618
@matthewlee8618 3 ай бұрын
To be fair that’s a result of their recruits which they get because of the history of the program. They don’t develop guys year after year people get worse in an Iowa singlet
@theduder232
@theduder232 3 ай бұрын
Ben Askren? Somebody who can teach scrambling.
@russlumley4974
@russlumley4974 3 ай бұрын
Not conceding anything, realistic you don't need to concede to what we all know is reality 😂
@prestonquinn5167
@prestonquinn5167 3 ай бұрын
I think psu's equipment manager could coach better than these two 😂
@Steveo47dog
@Steveo47dog 3 ай бұрын
Iowa won a national championship just a couple of years ago and were favored to win the year the championship was canceled. You have probably the second best coach in the country. Are you gonna fire him and get the third best coach? Manning, Smith, Dresser, Ryan, etc. who? I’ll wait for the answer.
@combatspeed6392
@combatspeed6392 3 ай бұрын
Also, the year Iowa won NCAAs, PSU lost Cassar to injury. Had that injury not taken place, PSU would have won (remember the dual came down to Nevils vs Cassioppi) there is definitely an * next to that win.
@Steveo47dog
@Steveo47dog 3 ай бұрын
@@combatspeed6392 By that rationale, give Spencer Lee his 4th title. He would have won had he not been injured.
@l.rongardner2150
@l.rongardner2150 3 ай бұрын
Wait until a guy like Dake or Taylor retires from active wrestling, and make him the new coach
@combatspeed6392
@combatspeed6392 3 ай бұрын
@@Steveo47dog you're right. But why was he injured? Because his coaches the Brands bros didn't manage his injuries well.
@JadedOptimist
@JadedOptimist 3 ай бұрын
​@@Steveo47dog False equivalency. Cassar was hurt and didn't wrestle, Spencer suited up and took the mat. Had he not been pinned he would have wrestled, instead he used the injury as an excuse to forfeit out of the tourney.
@AllHandlesHaveBeenTaken
@AllHandlesHaveBeenTaken 3 ай бұрын
I "bet" he's mad
@frankmarquez6934
@frankmarquez6934 3 ай бұрын
Love how Tom gets fired up. That's a coach. He's not mad. He cares.
@Drew19015
@Drew19015 3 ай бұрын
Dude belongs in the cringe hall of fame. Yeesh 🤦‍♂️
@1populist
@1populist 3 ай бұрын
We just got our asses whipped by a bunch of god damned nerd! Nerds!!
@lyonanddebanderson4418
@lyonanddebanderson4418 3 ай бұрын
Coach Brands, you are doing fine. You do a job not for the faint of heart posters & bloggers, but for the true fans. Go HAWKS, Sheldon ORABS, & West Sioux FALCONS; You & Terry were passionate from the day you started wresting. I know this first hand from the 80's in the Siouxland conference. To this day I hate losing more than I like winning in everything that I do; YOU TAUGHT ME THAT EVEN BEFORE YOU WERE A COACH, Thank You both.
@MrTuberguber
@MrTuberguber 3 ай бұрын
Where was he mad?
@FervAnimalLover
@FervAnimalLover 3 ай бұрын
where he randomly starts shouting
@michaelbradford4444
@michaelbradford4444 3 ай бұрын
False title to deceive good wrestling fans into subscribing ,not me!
@TimmyC2108
@TimmyC2108 3 ай бұрын
Guy is a weirdo
@matthurford9363
@matthurford9363 2 ай бұрын
Bro time to find a factory job
@tommycryptic
@tommycryptic 3 ай бұрын
Iowa needs a coaching change, not Tom but the assistants
@floydrigby1587
@floydrigby1587 3 ай бұрын
Sorry, Tom is the problem
@michaellindsey3682
@michaellindsey3682 3 ай бұрын
Yes you are putting my man Sanders on a pedestal. He is an awesome coach. Can you just put the pride down. Secondly you are not using Gabe correctly. Excuse excuses for not using Gabe. Gabe is much better than your wrestler you are using. A dress that elephant in the room why don’t you. Oh yeah it will expose the truth.
@wrenglish
@wrenglish 3 ай бұрын
Breakdown in difference of coaching philosophies kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7ZhobahtdLOonU.htmlsi=MXuVOA64MMYM8w7S
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