Pentax 17 Review

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8 күн бұрын

AD/ANZEIGE: In this episode, Jules and I share our first impressions of the Pentax 17, one of the most anticipated cameras in the film community. Ever since Ricoh Imaging announced the Pentax Film Camera Project in December 2022, the film community waited for this pivotal moment. A newly introduced film camera tailored to today’s needs and produced with today’s manufacturing capabilities.
The anticipation now culminates in the launch of the Pentax 17, a 35mm half-frame camera with manual film transport, manual zone focusing and automatic exposure. The bright, large viewfinder lets you compose in portrait orientation - which is common for half-frame cameras but is also a deliberate choice as it matches today’s social media formats and how content is often consumed on a phone. So the 17 in Pentax 17 is derived from the 17x24mm dimensions of the final frames. The obvious side effect and benefit is that one regular 36-exposure film roll gives you 72 exposures which helps counter increasing film costs - just like it did in the 1960s when the half-frame format was originally introduced. We had reviewed the Olympus Pen from 1959 and the world’s first half-frame SLR camera, the Olympus Pen F from 1963, here on the channel before.
Back to the Pentax 17. When we started this KZfaq channel about eight years ago, I would have never thought to see the launch of a brand new film camera. So I was truly excited about this camera and giving it a try. Pentax reached out to us asking whether we would like to give it a try and provide a first review. You can only imagine how excited I got about this opportunity. I took the camera with me on a trip to Mallorca shooting some Kodak Gold 200 and Ilford Delta 100. Jules and I also took it through its paces during a photowalk in Landsberg am Lech and Munich shooting some slide film. Let’s take a closer look at its features, the build quality, the images it produces and our personal impressions and findings.
Gear used:
Pentax 17
Films used:
Kodak Gold 200
Kodak Ultramax 400
Ilford Delta 100
Fuji Velvia 100
Films (except Fuji Velvia) scanned and developed by Film Speed Lab: filmspeedlab.com
References:
www.japancamerahunter.com/202...
www.lomography.de/magazine/28...
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@trastevere2007 6 күн бұрын

Dear Max, no apologies necessary regarding the price. This is new equipment with modern engineering practices behind it. All of us film shooters are lucky to have this happening now. Next up, Mint/Rollei.

@marcp.1752 6 күн бұрын

Yes, i hope Max and Greg would review the upcoming MiNT/Rollei 35 AF....

@BeingWolfy 6 күн бұрын

@@marcp.1752- My guess is that he already has the Rollei 35AF in hand. Can't wait for his review!

@eclipsehunter303 6 күн бұрын

I was expecting above 1000€ 😅

@PhilKnall 5 күн бұрын

@@eclipsehunter303that's what I'm expecting for their planned premium compact.

@TristanColgate 5 күн бұрын

I've been wondering what this would be selling for on eBay if it had these specs but was from the '90s. I reckon £300 easy (mju2 goes for that, and is less auto), so brand new, £500 is definitely fair.

@rickhauser9698 6 күн бұрын

This is the best and classiest review of the Pentax 17 I have seen. If nothing else please watch Max’s erudite declaration from 31:20 to 38:13. It is really growing on me.

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

Thank you soooo much for your kind words. I am glad this section resonated with you.

@walterschimeck645 4 күн бұрын

Analog Insights is just about the only camera-review site I follow anymore. Too many of the others seem to fall into two categories: Either the host doesn't really know what he's talking about, and hasn't even read the instruction manual, or he's much more interested in putting himself on display hoping to be found witty and cool.

@rickhauser9698 4 күн бұрын

@@walterschimeck645Totally agree with you sir

@user-du4lc9ei3o 6 күн бұрын

I've seen several reviews, and what I feel in common is that the resolution and color of the Pentax 17 lens are very good.

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

Yes, definitely. The image quality is amazing.

@stochasticdan 6 күн бұрын

Ever since this camera was announced, I was looking forward to your review. I always found your approach to reviewing cameras detailed and honest. I also find your photos beautiful. Your channel is one of my favorite photography channels. Well done.

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

Oh wow. So kind of you. Really appreciate these warm words.

@neeravnaik 6 күн бұрын

Personally for me this is a design masterpiece with so many small details that are so well thought out. The balance between getting back the tactile feel of using a film camera with making it easy for beginners to enjoy is very good. Price maybe bit on higher side for some but i feel this will still sell very well. Many markets in Asia, Africa etc. do not have access to good quality second hand markets and it will be great for them especially. Hero of this camera is the lens which is producing such great image quality. This is one thing that makes the value worth it along with the build and having a new camera.

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Couldn’t agree more.

@peterkin1010 6 күн бұрын

Seen the results off it via high res downloads and sm not impressed. £500 for a half frame camera is ridiculous . I could buy a decent condition Nikon F3HP with a 50mm lems for the same money.

@Resgerr 6 күн бұрын

@@peterkin1010but the Nikon F3 is still an old second hand camera

@adtfor 3 күн бұрын

There is a huge second hand market in Japan, just saying. Actually I think it's the biggest market in the world

@neeravnaik 3 күн бұрын

@@adtfor Japan is not entire Asia

@Juliane2412 6 күн бұрын

Thank you for your comment on the price. People tend to forget, that quality and research needs to be paid.

@bobette360 6 күн бұрын

Max, hands down the best review I’ve seen of the camera, not that I expected anything less from you.

@AnalogInsights 5 күн бұрын

Thank you so much. That’s very kind of you.

@JaedoTae 2 күн бұрын

For those who complain about prices of new innovations, imagine how you could research and develop new inventions, let alone passion of the film enthusiasts without kickstart programs. Well said by the reviewer. Ricoh/Pentax is possibly one of the best companies that hears customers and continues to innovate.

@ianhand5006 6 күн бұрын

I’m so very pleased that you two gentlemen have reviewed this camera. Thank you for another excellent and balanced camera review.

@PrestonThomasCafe 6 күн бұрын

As usual, great review. Also, as a longtime Pentax and Leica shooter, I can honestly say that Pentax build quality and attention to details is second to none. While I don't have much interest in a 1/2 frame camera, I'm hoping that Pentax will take a look at their excellent ME Super (my No.1 film camera) and use that as a template for their next build. Thanks again for your work.

@robertmortimer4837 3 күн бұрын

ME super, my first and one of my current film cameras (over 30yr)

@walterschimeck645 6 күн бұрын

Another great review and a powerful rebuttal to all those who have pre-judged Pentax's effort (Why half-frame?...So expensive...) and in any case, wouldn't be satisfied until Nikon re-issues the FM3a. Having said that, I think Pentax/Ricoh's marketing department will have its work cut out selling the 17 to a new generation of film-photographers who haven't been taught to recognize quality workmanship or that quality is something they need to be prepared to pay for.

@SachaSommer 5 күн бұрын

Yes, why half frame?

@berzerkrobot 5 күн бұрын

Your guys review on this camera is peerless.

@AnalogInsights 4 күн бұрын

Thank you! Very kind of you.

@punkrachmaninoff 6 күн бұрын

Thank you Pentax. THANK YOU PENTAX.

@Honkonlong 6 күн бұрын

The only one I trust about this camera, thank you

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

Thank you, that’s very kind.

@alexandermenzies9954 5 күн бұрын

Max, best (by far) review of the 17 I've yet seen. I hope lots of 12 - 18 yo's will receive (with film)) a 17 for birthdays or Christmas (and the older cohort, too!).

@MrJoeylikesmusic 5 күн бұрын

I really appreciate you defending the price and decisions Pentax made with this camera. As an enthusiast I’m so excited for this camera and already have mine on pre order.

@flowermaze___ 6 күн бұрын

Some of the nicest photos I’ve seen taken with the 17 🎞️ Beautiful work. Great review! Who’d have thought we’d see a new film camera again, and one made to such a high standard and pedigree! Thanks Pentax!

@AnalogInsights 5 күн бұрын

Thank you for your kind words. Glad you enjoyed it.

@louhautdavid6451 6 күн бұрын

I was cautious about the menus but with more reflexion I find this choice quite clever and practical for any user. You have enough tools to serve your intents. What convinces me is the quality of the lens. I saw close-up photos in another review and they look great. Thanks for this inspiring video!

@mikegraziotti 6 күн бұрын

I have 40 vintage cameras, 10 have failed in some manner. Someday all will fail so thankfully companies like Pentax are keeping film alive. Regarding 1/2 frame being a bad thing, this is mirrorless all over again. How long have we heard the argument “they aren’t as good as full frame, I need full frame to get good pictures”. The Pentax 17 is a perfect size travel camera, have you ever tried taking a Nikon F4 on holiday.

@Fauxbourg 4 күн бұрын

There are much smaller fullframe film cameras than the F4.

@thomasa.243 4 күн бұрын

I have 5 Minox 35. Beautiful cameras but they all failed. Keeping it for spareparts but the problem is that all 5 have the same issue… I hope that this camera succeeds and Pentax will release more cameras. The design of this camera actually looks like it is „modular“ in terms of manufacturing.

@erichartke4331 5 күн бұрын

Amazing review!! I have to say i enjoy seeing the positivity im the comments here and expressed in your video. I have so much respect for Ricoh/Pentax! Keep the cameras coming!!

@carltanner9065 5 күн бұрын

The moment I can, i will be getting one of these cameras. I have a Canon Demi EE17 and I love it and the format. Adding the Pentax 17 to my half-frame collection will be something to look forward to!

@AnalogInsights 5 күн бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I think the major advantage of the Pentax over the Canon Demi EE17 (which I also own) is the close focus possibilities and easier/quicker focusing mechanism. You will probably really enjoy it if you like using the Canon Demi.

@john_murch 5 күн бұрын

Well done Max and Jules, I especially like your last point regarding the price!/value! Also hats of to Ricoh/Pentax for having the guts to do something almost no other current manufacturers would dare to do!

@AnalogInsights 5 күн бұрын

Thank you for your kind feedback. And yes, I agree. I am glad that Ricoh/Pentax are taking the lead here and did this leap of faith.

@sherylrobinson1913 6 күн бұрын

Fantastic review!!, I can't wait to buy one. I shoot all sorts of cameras and am equally excited about a new release. It is a special moment in film photography.

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

Thank you. I fully agree.

@stefanjr 5 күн бұрын

I'm surprised how good the 17 exposures. The highlights are especially brilliant. And - the photos at 20:41 and 20:46 are really TOP!

@senkawascott 5 күн бұрын

I'm very glad to see your thoughtful and well-researched review of this camera. Many talking heads have spoken flippantly about the lens, the body materials, the half frame format, etc. No names mentioned, but I lost respect for quite a few KZfaqrs over this review. On the other hand, your logical review, and that of other thoughtful people (i.e. Luigi Barbano, TheDarkroom and a few others). The point of the leap of faith taken by Pentax in creating this camera is not to be taken lightly! I am thrilled by the specs of this camera and plan to buy it when it is available here in Tokyo.

@terrydear4038 5 күн бұрын

Max - bravo on a thorough and well balanced overview of this camera. Lovely photos too.

@GODSPEEDseven 2 күн бұрын

I love and appreciate each and every camera manufacturer out there. I would hate any one of them to be out of the game. But, I have to give it to Pentax; hats off to a company that actually seems to sincerely care about photography and giving us very unique cameras/lenses at very fair prices. I should be receiving this camera in a few days and already have a whole photography project in mind for this little gem. Thanks for your great review :)

@davidottman9501 6 күн бұрын

Thanks for offering your thoughtful comments at the end of the video. Most people value things with no consideration of what it takes to bring them to life and deliver them to us. Interesting camera, and a you made a great review!

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

Thank you so much for your kind feedback. I am glad you appreciated this section. :)

@AlexanderHernandez-sb7lq 6 күн бұрын

It’s amazing that Recoh/ Pentax released a new film camera. I hope this project is a success and we get more film cameras in the future.

@AndyPentax 6 күн бұрын

Fantastic review and great to hear such positive feedback. It’s tempting but I am looking forward to their SLR cameras later this year. I’ve a Pentax P30T that I have enjoyed using and can’t wait to be able to use a new 35mm Pentax camera👍

@VariTimo 6 күн бұрын

The camera actually goes into power saving mode after one minute. The On/Off switch is more of a shutter lock switch so you don’t take a photo when you don’t actually want to.

@danielsinn8164 5 күн бұрын

Great review! Mine will be here in a couple of days, and I'm really excited! I've owned and repaired at least 100 vintage cameras, and I've realized that the vast majority of 35mm cameras give you pretty much the same result. Half frame with a quality lens really brings something different and new.

@AnalogInsights 5 күн бұрын

Very true. Curious to hear what you think once you have it. :)

@H2A2I00 6 күн бұрын

This camera looks fantastic. While the half frame is my only personal issue, this is a no-brainer recommendation to a majority of casual shooters who just want to save the jpegs to their phone and share them online. Great points on price- this is more than fair and more competitive than what some of our favourite vintage cameras went for upon their own retail release. Between this and the Mint camera coming out soon, it is an exciting time and I hope as many people as possible support both.

@AnalogInsights 5 күн бұрын

So true. I feel like we have reached a tipping point in the film community that might bring about some changes. Very interesting times.

@nwmi23 6 күн бұрын

Excellent video. I placed my order on the 18th and should have the camera in my possession on the 25th.

@user-ve3gh5xg9q 6 күн бұрын

👏

@mynewcolour 5 күн бұрын

The best review. I am really impressed by the camera. Little details such as the strap length, slow-sync, 40.5mm filter and such make me think this really is a camera designed with passion by real photography nerds. As a fan of Pen, XA and Mju cameras, but also completely manual cameras the 17 is very appealing to me.

@ChubbyPugYarn 8 сағат бұрын

Thank you for an amazing review! I’m considering dipping my toes in to analogue photography but was a bit discouraged by a lot of negativity in comments and reviews I’ve seen so far so it was really refreshing to get a proper walk through of the camera, explanations of functions and your impressions of it!

@AnalogInsights 7 сағат бұрын

Thank you for your kind comment. Glad to hear it was helpful. I tried my best to make the video relevant to both starters and more experienced film shooters.

@erichung9043 6 күн бұрын

Thanks for the honest review. I am waiting for the Rollie 35AF from MINT. A pass for me on this Pentax despite its well made and good ergonomics. My 35mm Contax IIa and Voigtlander R2C are about the same size as this. Half frame would mean I need to wait longer for the result and TriX film would look really coarse. Wish Pentax had brought back the PC35AF. I still have mine from the 80s somewhere in the closet.

@igssilva 6 күн бұрын

The PC35AF has a lot more technology in it than the new Pentax 17, with AF focus, 5 element 2.8 full frame lens, faster shutter, and smaller form factor. I can't even imagine how much it would cost to launch a camera with those specifications now on the market.

@josearielramos371 6 күн бұрын

Great review, y'all. It is a good argument to make that new and vintage prices can't be compared unless original prices of vintage cameras are taken into consideration. Go Pentax!

@juliodubeux889 6 күн бұрын

Very clear and fair take on this product. It seems that this one will be in my collection at some point in the future. I really appreciate the channel guys. Very well researched and with no hurry to release just something to try and beat the other reviews to the punch. I appreciate you guys taking your time to really get to know the product before conveying your opinions. One of the best channels in the community for sure! Congrats boys!!!

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

Thank you so much. This means a lot to me.

@GONZOFAM7 6 күн бұрын

Another excellent review. With 72 shots you can take more snapshot and use it more like a cell phone.

@RonScibilia 6 күн бұрын

But it's not one. Connectivity is king.

@Fauxbourg 4 күн бұрын

But it isn't a cell phone, so what really is the point in using a film camera like one.

@rvbsoundfactory 6 күн бұрын

The Pentax organization is something to admire. They are a exciting photographic company. The Pentax 17 is a very interesting camera. Looking forward to seeing the other film cameras that Pentax produce in the future. Pentax chose well for analog insights to review the new camera.

@xmeda 4 күн бұрын

There is no Pentax any more for over 10 years. Just Ricoh.

@rvbsoundfactory 4 күн бұрын

@@xmeda yes, I think I was aware of that. Ricoh Imaging. Nice name.

@campyonlyguy 5 күн бұрын

I've seen and read many reviews, but I learned something new in your excellent essay. I agree with you about price--in fact, I've ordered a 17 and hope to have it in hand this week!

@erichstocker8358 6 күн бұрын

As always a super review of equipment focusing on photography rather than gear or optics. Always look forward to your videos

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

Thank you! Really appreciated. 🙏🏻

@christill 6 күн бұрын

It’s definitely tempting, although I don’t think it’s for me right now. I’d love to see them do a half-frame SLR with a more modern camera battery and similar electronics to this one, but offering the full set of modes as well as the assists. I think that’d be amazing. And then they could go on to do the fully mechanical SLR for the people who want that. I think you’re right to mention that the price is actually very reasonable considering the financial and time investment that has gone into such a huge undertaking. I was a little bit surprised when I first heard, but that’s why you should always try to sleep on these things before you react. The chances are that you’ll change your mind very quickly from that first snap reaction.

@andrewwilkin1923 6 күн бұрын

Hi Max & Jules, the best review on the Pentax 17 and believe me I've seen a lot from all the other KZfaq channels I follow. About the price, it's amazing Ricoh have reached this price point for something new. Looking at 1970 prices for half frame cameras like the Canon Demi 28 and Olympus Pen EE2 and taking into account inflation the cost of the Pentax 17 falls in between these two. (Sources - Wallace Heaton Blue book 1970-71, inflation figures from the Bank Of England inflation calculator)

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

Thank you for your thoughtful comment. Completely agree regarding the price.

@jr8440 6 күн бұрын

this is the very best review i have seen on the 17! well done, so much work you put in it. thanks max if pentax made it cheap it would be less relevant and i totally agree with your analysis

@kimc5750 3 күн бұрын

I have been waiting for your review! Fantastic. People have to realize that tooling and engineering has a price.

@XboxTheBeatboxer 6 күн бұрын

I actually thought it would be closer to two grand. This price is a bargain.

@jasonwhitehead4068 5 күн бұрын

Another great review max. I’m so with you on the cost of the camera and they should be applauded for daring to take the risk. I for sure will be getting one and I’ll be happy to know that I’ll get years of use without breaking or need of service, which can’t be said for my vintage equipment. I had my Nikon f2 serviced by the great sover wong and that was around £400 ten years ago. It’s still shooting film but makes the Pentax look a bargain.

@L.E.Santo02 6 күн бұрын

The best review I have seen so far. Thank you guys for that!

@AnalogInsights 5 күн бұрын

Thanks so much.

@dalespencer8694 5 күн бұрын

great review. The shot at 16:35 is so nice!

@robertmortimer4837 3 күн бұрын

I believe the camera auto powers down after a short period and powers back up automatically when you press the shutter. You only need to turn off the power to make sure the battery is not run down while it is in a bag.

@adamturner7304 4 күн бұрын

The best review I have seen on here very balanced and you can see your love of film

@sdhute 5 күн бұрын

I would prefer full frame however the half frame makes it unique to the film cameras I already have. From the looks of the community its selling good. I wouldn’t be shocked if it goes on back order. I'm still dreaming of a new medium format camera.

@dbkfrogkaty1 5 күн бұрын

I hope for Pentax sake that this camera sells. Pentax has re-created a compact easy to operate film camera for both new comers and the more experienced photographers. Everything in the world is more expensive these days so a newly developed from scratch film camera is no different. Excellent review of the new 17.

@AnalogInsights 5 күн бұрын

Thank you for your kind comment. Appreciate it. :)

@bananaskin7527 6 күн бұрын

I'm excited too. I will support the effort and buy one too. Good review. Appreciated the mention of the ISO detents and the exposure compensation options.

@angrd020 6 күн бұрын

Ohhh yesss!!!! I've been waiting for your review...!!!!!

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

Thanks, so glad to hear that. I hope you enjoy it. :)

@ernestthomas9406 2 күн бұрын

I'm glad you made the point that the price of this camera is not an issue of discussion also the camera is targeted at people who are interested in photography, to me these are important points. That being said I think it is a stroke of genius to have a camera that isn't over price & give a person a cool starting point to keep true photography alive

@yorkieinnz4648 3 күн бұрын

Thank you for a good honest review .....as always.

@jdebultra 3 күн бұрын

This is really a comprehensive review. Thank you Max.

@christopherward5065 4 күн бұрын

Thankyou Max for such a considered review. At first when the images were leaked, it was difficult to understand what Pentax was aiming for. However, as soon as the quality of build, materials and images are apparent we find that Pentax are serious about the medium and photographers. It is a very good proposition and great value. A great return to film from a great and innovative manufacturer.

@olio_benzina 5 күн бұрын

Hello and thank you for another excellent and thoughtful review. I'm fascinated by this new film camera and the design philosophy behind it. Pentax must be commended for this significant commitment. As far as the price, it's similar to a decent entry level digital camera or phone so no more needs to be said on this matter. I have an Olympus Pen S and a Canon Demi ee17 and the image quality of the Pentax 17 appears to be as good or better, therefore excellent. Regarding the default vertical frame, this is a non-issue as the user automatically adjusts in my experience. I don't even notice doing this on my Fujica GS 645S. I sincerely hope this new film camera is a success for Pentax and a joy to use for the new owners. Regards. Paul.

@jeffreyrice 4 күн бұрын

I really enjoyed your review and perspective on this camera. Thanks.

@mistercyclops81 4 күн бұрын

Wow, Max have you ever had the chance to review a newly designed and marketed film camera on this channel? I can imagine you were excited for the opportunity, and Kudos to Pentax for taking the initiative to develop a new analog product in the digital age. Another fabulous episode - thank you!

@elsueniero5922 5 күн бұрын

Great review as always, thanks for your channel

@AnalogInsights 5 күн бұрын

Thanks for your feedback. Appreciate it. :)

@39exposures 5 күн бұрын

great review as always!

@danielcoburn7696 6 күн бұрын

Brilliant. I enjoy watching your videos Thankyou for your insights

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

Thank you for your kind feedback.

@ThingOfSome Күн бұрын

Great review! Without a manual mode, it is really not so interesting, but hopefully others will be interested enough to buy them.

@nickcosh5947 4 күн бұрын

Great video Max, I think you were spot on with your commentary. I am also glad for the slightly longer length to cover all of the camera and its pro's and cons. I think Pentax should be congratulated, in fact any company who brings out a new film camera of this quality, will I buy it no but I find it hard to go through 36 frames let alone 72 🤣

@funbichons5215 6 күн бұрын

I’ve been waiting for your review of Pentax 17. Great review and sample photos 👍 this will add to my collections of half frame cameras like Olympus Pen, Pen F, Canon Demi, Ricoh Caddy and now Pentax 17 📷

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

Thank you so much. And wow, what a wonderful collection. This camera should definitely be a part of this collection.

@ulrichmaas3125 4 күн бұрын

Best review of this camera so far. Totally agree to your view on the retail price.

@AnalogInsights 4 күн бұрын

Thanks so much. Very kind of you.

@thebitterfig9903 5 күн бұрын

I kinda wish it was 21mm instead, since the “full frame 31mm” field of view is such an iconic Pentax field of view, but I still bought one. It got here yesterday and I’m just waiting for the rain to stop.

@mynewcolour 5 күн бұрын

I agree wide is good for a snapshot camera (especially one that is zone-focus). 25mm is historically about as wide as half frame cameras got iirc.

@thebitterfig9903 4 күн бұрын

@@mynewcolour For me, I find a lot of meaning in the famous Pentax FA 31/1.8 Limited (which I don’t have) and its smaller cousin the APS-C DA 21/3.2 Limited (which I do). It’s just such a Pentax focal length, iconic in its history. But I suppose that the Ricoh Auto-Half has history worth referencing, considering that the company is Ricoh/Pentax.

@vangstr 6 күн бұрын

Great video. A bit later than all the other reviews but genuinely well made video. Great to hear your experiences with this camera.

@sudosden3567 Күн бұрын

Nice camera for beginning film when coming from smartphone or digital compact. Now, can't wait for Pentax 27, 37, 47 and 57 ! 😁

@johnsomers8269 3 күн бұрын

Now to use Adox CMS II with the H&W film chemistry to give you some better speed and grainless images from this half frame camera!

@rdmckeever7645 6 күн бұрын

Nice and fair review. Already ordered one; waiting availability and shipping. Only complaint I see coming is one minor thing, the texture on the rear of the camera does not match the leatherette texture on the front. Picky complaint for sure, but it makes it look like the camera was built with spare parts from another design.

@mynewcolour 5 күн бұрын

There’s definitely room for aesthetic improvements with ltd editions, as they did with the GRs.

@monochromebluess 5 күн бұрын

Great knowledgeable review. You and Jules certainly showed what it can do re quality. In comparison to modern digital cameras it’s a bargain price for a beautiful film camera. And in comparison to the “older vintage cameras “ when first released again again it’s good value. A new camera also and very importantly comes with a warranty. If something goes wrong it’s fixed /replaced etc etc. You don’t need to buy it and then spend hundreds having it CLA’d as is often the case with a vintage camera. Let’s hope it’s a big success and it opens the door for further Pentax releases.

@kabaottoemulsion1869 3 күн бұрын

Thanks for the very honest review of this camera. Love that Land Rover Defender photo! Where you located? I love you are as passionate as people developed this camera! I think pricing is pretty good! People buy this camera will be supported at least next 10 years of Pentax repair and spare parts support! As I am deeply working with Pentax past 30 years of my life. This is one of happiest time of my life with PENTAX! Enjoyed your video!

@AnalogInsights 3 күн бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I am based in Munich.

@pushingfilm 6 күн бұрын

Excellent review (and analysis of the greater implications of this new camera) 👍

@AnalogInsights 5 күн бұрын

Thank you for dropping by, Hashem, and take the time to comment. Really appreciate it.

@4351steve 6 күн бұрын

Thanks, for your insights

@siHawkes 4 күн бұрын

Another superb review

@CodewortSchinken 4 күн бұрын

Thanks for this review. I think Pentax shipped these out to every sigle Film photography youtuber around. I realy appreciate this effort both by Pentax and you. As a member of that new generation of film camera users I think it's a very coherent and beginner friendly product with the film saving and social media oriented half frame format. I also value your discussion on the price which most other reviews simply ignored, although I mostly disagree: Even though 550€ might be a reasonable price for what it cost Pentax to develop and manufacture this camera. it is way too expensive for the average teenager or twenty-something who just casually shoots some film but isn't a hardcore photography nerd. Knowing alot of people like this the Pentax 17 has to effectively competes with older consumer grade cameras that sell for ~25€ or old consumer grade SLRs that are also much less expensive. I don't think the the Pentax 17 becomming a commercial success among it's intended target audience and I do see the danger of it's potential commercial failure used as "proof" that new film cameras just don't sell and kill future projects. Considering the curerent market of vintage pro equipment a 120mm viewfinder camera would have been a safer bet I think, but let's hope Ricoh already has more cameras under development. Maybe the consumer grade model came first to get the machinery going again, before they do cameras for more picky enthusiasts.

@malypavel25 6 күн бұрын

Received mine yesterday! Spent a day shooting with it today! ❤

@mjones410 5 күн бұрын

you changed my mind on this camera, excellent review :)

@Ianl6311 6 күн бұрын

Great review! Would you say you have to be willing to change your habits in favor of more vertical shots with the Pentax 17 or it’s also suitable for mostly horizontal shooters? I’m talking about a potential discomfort in always having to turn the camera sideways, in terms of stability in the hand, etc.

@starsinmyeyes 6 күн бұрын

So impressed...well, surprised and impressed, really...at the sharpness of the shots at max focal distance. And with 1/2 the negative size! Thanks for your review. I appreciated your take at the end, as well. It was a good reminder for me.

@mrstandfast2212 2 күн бұрын

Excellent review and analysis. I hope this is the first of more film cameras from Pentax. I admit that I wouldn't buy this model one simply because I don't like portrait mode. If they were to follow up with a full frame in landscape mode, then I most certainly would buy one.

@robertoposa1120 4 күн бұрын

I absolutely agree on your thoughts about the price - I‘ll get one for sure - excellent video - thanks

@John_Longbow 6 күн бұрын

Great review, very helpfull.

@innstikk 4 күн бұрын

Nice review! Looks to take good images this camera. Hope many buy it and Pentax get chance to make more models. I completely agree with the points on prize. Especially since, you might buy an old camera that is said to be in working order, only to find you have to repair it.Getting equipment needed and the time you invest in doing the repairs are more than the price of this camera. I recently repaired a Olympus Pen (original version) and while I enjoy it, it doesn't have all the features of this half frame, so you have to know what you are doing to use it and you also need an external light meter which also costs money.

@autisticlife 6 күн бұрын

Thank you for this review I had hoped you would do this. I am seriously thinking about buying one. I have Olympus and Yashica half frame cameras, this one offers something different with new thinking in its design, I could use this camera well and enjoy it.

@JoeLopez 4 күн бұрын

Really nice job. I love this camera and will buy one before the year ends. One observation, why the three clearly different textures in the black covering around the body?

@xiaodu87 6 күн бұрын

Thanks for the review! I very much agree with you on the price point, although 550 € is still a lot of money, even if there are good reasons. I had the camera in my hands at our local analog camera store here in Hamburg which had a nice little promo event. What I found a bit unfortunate (something also mentioned in many videos about the camera) is that the back received a little less intention. The overall look of the camera would be more refined if they had given the back the same surface as the front. (In German I'd say, "Sie wäre insgesamt runder von der Optik"). All in all, I really appreciate the effort by Ricoh PENTAX to go forward and get out this camera

@kiwipics 6 күн бұрын

The battery cover / hand grip is ideal and is similar to the Canon AE Progra.

@AndyPentax 6 күн бұрын

Yes I thought this also; it really reminds me of my Canon AE 1 Program Camera in particular.

@TheDodgefan9 6 күн бұрын

The announcment of this camera got me thinking that I would like to have a film camera to compliment my Olympus E-P7. I was gifted an Olympus Pen EE-2, and it is in great shape. I just shot my first roll of film since I was a kid. I just hope the photos turn out decently! The half frame appealed to me as a way to save money on film, and it does inspire me to take the shot differently than I would usually due to the orientation and fixed focus.

@yanghu3592 6 күн бұрын

The primary reason people rarely compare modern digital cameras with older models is that 90% of them either don't last a decade or become completely outdated within 10 years, making such comparisons impractical. In contrast, the film community can appreciate that comparisons between old and new film cameras are still relevant.

@yanghu3592 6 күн бұрын

Moreover, budget is never a priority for vintage car collectors. Many of them also own modern vehicles, including electric ones. It's not that new film cameras are too expensive; it's just that old cameras are too cheap because there are no environmental regulations to recycle them, resulting in a large supply. I'm sure the market will eventually address this issue as many legendary cameras continue to be neglected.

@thinkpadx60 6 күн бұрын

This is going to be a tricky venture. It's going to be a gamble for everyone with the upside being that film ecosystem gets more love, cheaper prices and more options. Hope Pentax 17 is a success.

@AnalogInsights 6 күн бұрын

I certainly do hope the same as you can tell from my thoughts in the price segment.

@theangrymarmot8336 6 күн бұрын

Considering the press release from two days ago - Pentax is basically "sold out" and recieved so many preorders/orders they are doubting their ability to fill them. Mine arrives on Wednesday, and I am excited to use it as it fills my "everyday pocket point-and-shoot" want. I have quite a few film cameras, but find a high quality, reliable & fun to use point and shoot is difficult in the film world.

@jamesjacocks6221 5 күн бұрын

This camera is essential equipment for the tiny house set. Its sharp triplet can make nice grain. This is an urban sniper or boon companion whilst en route.

@EvilDaikon 6 күн бұрын

Great review and the one I have been waiting for. As for price, I'm someone who can and has sourced used cameras. Sure I can find something cheaper. But a new camera that I can depend on, has a return policy, and a warranty still appeals to me. I also find that since it's a 'point and shoot' and is half frame to be complementary to my other cameras - it is offering something I don't have. Happy to hear that sales have exceeded expectations and that the first batch is already sold out. It speaks to the desire of new options for film users.

@martinandreasson5504 5 күн бұрын

Great review guys :) As always well measured and thought through. Also a greta point considering the price point etc. And like you say i do agree with that us more "advanced" in our photography journey has to think about helping out here and add our effort to the community with trying to help hype this product and maybe also buy it to support this heartfelt project Pentax has created for us and everyone else. Sure it wouldnt be my first choice of what i would put into a camera (half frame etc ) and maybe not the frist camera id look for used. But it looks beautiful and well built and the photos i have seen from it looks very good and promising in my opinion. I am also looking forward to the Mints Rollei 35 AF of course and its more my style of camera i would love buying, but the price there will be higher still from what i understand . But lets hope the community and maybe most of all new and young photographers like and want these cameras so that this community grows and does not only contain us "old kooks" but a new and healthy base of people that love and want to sustain film photography :) Thank you, regards Martin.