Penuel probably you won't read this but if you do bro, allow your guest to express and finish their points above all let them express their train of thoughts. Rob wanted to share more however he you kept interrupting him. He had this burning point he wanted to share and he did not share. I hope you'll learn from this and grow. All the best bro.

I worked for Anglovaal Mining in their HO for 22 years. What a company to work for! Robs dad Basil Hersov is a complete legend, a genius businessman and a gentleman.

Imagine having Rob, Musi, Gayton, Malema and Steenhuisen having a discussion in one round table..mediated by Pen. Unfiltered honest discussions. That would be a cracker.

I commend Rob for mentioning this point that most of us black guys do not have access to mentors. However,what I resorted to do is reading books and using them as my mentors. May God bless you for what you are doing.

There's a handful of dry content out there that's trending but Penuel is a valuable thought leader that we as south africans should protect like a treasure, I am pleased to say that I identify with this fellow, and i am behind you all the way, willing to even extend my support financially , thanks brother!

Rob seems prepared to do the work of getting SA going, with or without anyone. I love his honesty

I admire this mans honesty. No rags to riches bullshit lies people alway tell. Good show Penuel 👏👏

This is the most informative PODCAST in South African. Thank you Penuel

South Africa needed a person like Rob to tell it like it is .

We need more of this -- Two people respecting each other -- working on a solution to fix SA . Please keep it up. I pray to the Lord that you WILL SUCCEED ! ! ! The alternative is too Ghastly to contemplate ! ! ! !

Black Pen, when you invite someone to your show; let them talk more. Then you can ask follow on questions and get clarification etc.

Mate, what a great conversation. People want us to live under idealogies. We want to win, we wnat the country to win and our people to win. This has nothing to do with colour, race or class. Keep up the good work.

Great interview. It's inspiring to hear productive conversations about the future of South Africa. A lot of us are tired of the anger and pointing fingers, we just want to move on and make this country the best it can be.

Thank you Rob for having the courage to stand out and say what needs being said and also for being such a decent human being. We need more people like you in the forefront.God bless you Sir.

Rob a true South African ,thank you for your bravery and truly inspirational man .

I am so tired of all the stone throwing and negative discussions on the web that this is really refreshing to see people who are positive and passionate. People normally like to bring positive and passionate people down to their own level of complain and murmur. Rather be active and try to get things done and in the process making mistakes than doing nothing! God bless!!!

Great interview Black Pen, Rob is a true patriot. The fact that he is white and privileged should not overshadow that fact. We need more people that care about this country whether black or white. And yes we should vote out the thieving ANC in 2024 if we want to build a decent nation.

Gotta love Rob. He's frank, bold and doesn't give a damn. Man is honest about him and his family being wealthy. Very interesting wealthy guy, keen for SA to Prosper.

Great conversation, well done Penual. Rob is one of many people we need, he's talking about an uncomfortable truth that we do not want to hear!

Great conversation by all means. Pen, Keep doing this. Great to know Rob you aren’t part of the club and you aren’t Mr Global. You are truly giving SA hope and kind of fresh air listening to you. SA’ns got to wake up !

Penuel is a real deal and his platform is definitely going places.

The South Africa I envision 🙌🥇🇿🇦 Gold Stuff to both of you Pen and Rob 🥇🤝

This has to be the coolest and one of the most influential podcasts we always needed!

Only recently started listening to Pen after a few months of seeing his content and i must say watching the full pod was one of my better choices.

What a brilliant interviewer! You are on top of your topics and guests. Very balanced attitude

The big business issue is a real issue, and touching a very sensitive nerve. Good for you Rob; we need more of your ilk.

The balance has really surprised me and gives me hope for our beautiful country that I haven’t felt for a long time

Thanks to Pen and Rob for your honesty and integrity and we need lots more like you guys to save SA

What a conversation !! We need more of this . Wabafet.

Dude respect i salute both you these are the ppl we need in our land .thank you !!!

Penuel, this was a very thought provoking discussion. Thank you very much. 🙏

Loved this. Thank you. Keep on moving and doing good. Love this. God bless SA.

Great chat.....we need more of these insightful conversations Penuel keep them coming.

I dont normally comment, but i really enjoyed this interview! Good job young man!

Thank you so much. All these discussions open more people minds. Self reflection I think is key. What part did I play not improving my country or myself. Imagine it's like being a grown up.

this is magical we need to find ways to get such messages to the ones who cant hear

I hate that this is needed in South Africa, but I agree with you. We have to talk about the things that people find uncomfortable. Keep up the good work!

Good Afternoon King, I am 20 minutes in. I have to Take Time and tell you. You Amazing !, I am Proud of You as a young blackman right now, ngiyabonga and I See You🙌 Following you, has done for my Mind... Life Changing, literally breaking Generational Bondage. Thank You Gentlemen. This is beyond wealth for me its self worth. Happy Monday

My take on this conversation is that "I can and I need to do better' not just for myself but for the greater society. Watching you, Penuel, sharing yourself with the world and how you have built yourself ground up has left me inspired. I struggle to answer the question: What is my purpose in life? You are truly blessed and previladged to be in such close proximity with such individuals and mentors who are grooming you to be alike. Love the show. Big up to you champ.

Hi Pen, you just made me feel like I lost couple of years of my life, your conversation with Mr Harsov honestly not only opened my eyes but got rid of the myopic way of looking at south african politics. Im informed. You have gained a subscribe. Disappointed that i should have joined you earlier. I managed to catch up on couple of your conversations,really impressed bother keep up the great work.

I guess I just needed more time to hear what Rob has to say and I have to admit I am quarter to captured. You two gentlemen speak a lot of sense. I'd like to see more conversations with people like Rob and Pen

Thank you Penuel , the show was very informative and powerful. Remind me of Gevin Mkhari the giant.

Pen am so proud of you. This was a very good interview. Both of you and Rob are my favourites. Good job pen🙏 love to listen to stuff like this. 👍

Another great conversation with Rob. He is a solidly honest man, withholding nothing. The political class should heed his advice and turn around the country…the great RSA. To work with you gents would be great and fun too. But Pen you have so many things on your plate. Are you spreading yourself a little thin? Nonetheless a great conversation evoking feelings of self actualization by doing what matters to one’s self and life in general. Cheers from Canada Pen….oh I also saw Rob drop your name on BN…fantastic.

Excellent excellent excellent - pls more interviews like this to educate ALL of us South Africans - we SO need this for our amazing beautiful country to succeed

Wow, why did I find this channel only now? I totally share the passion for creating a network for cooperation and connection for business! Let's get that done ASAP!

Thank you very much for this intelligent interview Pennuel. You are great , an intelligent hardworker who will continue to be blessed by God.

I am beginning to like Rob. Such an honest guy and the always ready to share his thoughts regardless of how the land. I appreciate his time on your behalf. He's always available for you every time you shout.

Thanks again Penuel for another good conversation, I'm so happy to hear this and my hope is:we as South Africans we will be happy again,smile again🤞 😍🙏

This needs more views. It was a pleasure falling into this conversation Pen. Thanks for facilitating this and sharing with SA.

I am a South African living in Australia. I was once walking in Milnerton with a friend and his dog. In front of us was a woman with a dog. The dog made a big pile. The woman walked on leaving the poo on the beach. My friend had asked me many times about the difference between Australia and South Africa. I said to him. In Australia, we would have pulled out a poo bag and put the poo into the bin. However there is a sting to this tale. You see, everywhere you go in the World shit happens. In Australia, we hide it away in the bin. In South Africa, it's in your face.

Pen is about to be the biggest asset in SA, and the wealthiest young man, too

I'm halfway through the conversation and I can't help but commend the wealth of knowledge here. Thanks a lot for this Penuel (and the team).

Keep doing what you are doing big man,I loved your conversation with Rob.

You know he is genuine when he could choose to live comfortably in a first world country but chooses to be part of reviving a struggling SA economy .

Eitah daar....Another supaaa discussion Penuel.👏👏👏The Rob & others are willing to help; and that is good to hear. It look like now is the time to hold hands and venture different business spaces that will built this country of ours. Most of the Politicians narrative is poisonous and suppressive to us. We truly need to hold hands, and allow those like Mr. Hersov(s) and (willing) Black Businesses to assist us in giving direction(s) and mentoring us in re-opening businesses that were closed (i.e. Clothing Factories, etc.) or start new businesses in small scales. Big up to U again, Penuel. If possible, sivakashele nase malokishini or sitshele ukuthi utholakalaphi la kuboniswana khona ngama-ideas.🙏

This was seriously a podcast worth watching from beginning to end! You are such a brilliant host, definitely have a bright future ahead of you! Kudos to Rob too for his excellent display of character and charisma. Keep up the good work!

44min into this. Use to follow Penuel when he would shoot videos from inside his car. Remember the one where he spoke of Rob... then KZfaq suggests this video of him interviewing Rob on his own Podcast! ... I am white 37 year old, writing this message in the UK, I can relate to what ROb mentions of white guys dying to come back to SA - I am one of them, but just dont see a future for my twin (white) girls. Excellent podcast, well hosted, excellent interviewing skills Pen!

Finally we have someone who proudly accepts in public that he is rich and it's a wrong thing, Big respects to Rob on rebuilding South Africa

Brilliant interview Pen, I am only unhappy with not letting Rob drop names 46:36. Podcasts are uncensored. This sets a bad precedent for other high profile interviews. I believe people like Rob cannot be intimidated by defamation lawsuits against them should things go south. Thank you for giving us a seat at tables with individuals that we might never be invited to

Hi Penuel just got fed this interview and I commend you for an excellent show! I shall certainly be subscribing. Love your brutal honesty and openness. SA needs more like you. Keep it up!

Love the reference to Maslow's hierarchy of needs. When those who have reached self actualization, and who extend a helping hand to those, who are still struggling at the bottom rungs of the hierarchy, then you know they have truly "actualized". Rob appears to be one such person. Because he gives a "damn" about the beloved country Loved the way Pen, conducted the conversation. He is a very intelligent and refreshing, young man and I'm hoping that , the majority of the young people of this country would catch his "fire". Where he's at, at the moment, is way beyond the malignant rhetoric, the obsolete paradigms, the failed ideologies and the emotive and destructive chants, that takes us nowhere pretty swiftly. So a big shout out to both you worthy gentlemen. Hoping there are going to be more and frequent pockets of constructive engagements like this one, spontaneously, occurring, across the republic which would turn our country right side up.

Thankyou for this great platform that challenges all our thinking however controversial it may be. Cut the emotion, step back and have honest open discussion. This country can explode with growth!

Great show,great guest,great conversation. Well done pen👍👍

What a show so insightful and sharp-witted, the type of conversations we need.

As a person who likes American plartforms like these I must say this is at the same level if not above a few when it comes to the quality of the content 🥇🙌

I like this Rob Hersov guy. He unapologetically speaks his mind.😍

Big up to Rob hey, such inspiring conversation

Rob makes me happy when he says that he grew up in a wealthy family so unapologetically. We only ever hear of people who made it coming from disadvantaged families and sometimes people make us, who come from well-off families, feel like we are spoiled brats and do not deserve our success. We are also people who want to become independent and create our own prosperity.

1)We (I) need to have a product that's a self owned we need to compete with these big brands at their level. 2)I need informative information on platforms and at schools and not history from 1930 unless I go visit a historical site 3)A peaceful country 4)I want a different school system 5)A country that's massively value driven and works on principles ✊🏿

I really hope we can turn this country around🇿🇦 I’m voting for change!

Penuel you are doing a good job. Involving good people we would never know about, alleviating ignorance and unnecessary hatred that has been sung in the air and dropped into our ears. Hearing people boldly expressing how they view the falling of the possible beautiful country.

Thank you God Pen for this interview, it’s amazing how we can judge someone by just their skin colour without hearing them speak, I believe it’s because of the propaganda we have been fed over years which has been planted to try and divide us, when you can listen to the person and just hear what they have to say, you realise you are more alike than what you have been told. We needed to hear from Rob, and we need to hear from many others like him, that is how we build a better future based on values not skin colour.

There's something to be said about South Africa. South Africa is a unique country in that, it raises rich people that want to make a difference, whereas America just has a culture of profit at all costs. I like how sincere this guy is, and how involved he is in wanting to fight for this country.

I respect both of these men 👌🏽 they make me want to become a better person and help drive this country forward

Mind blowing! Well done Penuel

One of the best interview i have watched🙌. Thank you very much 🙏

Great conversation. Thank you for the honesty Rob.

Black Pen, you doing a great job man. I love, admire and enjoy what you’ve brought to this world of podcasting and internet. Thank you for always willing to share information and knowledge. This interview was awesome, enjoyed it very much.

That is the content we need and hardly hear about , discussing real issues . big up Brother Penuel 👌

Great interview @the penuel show - you managed to bring out very good points and great discussion. Looking forward to hearing more about these kinds of topics. Keep it up!

This is my favourite interview so far. Really enlightening

Love this episode, really enjoyed it Rob is intelligent. I think Penuel needs to let His guest finish their thought without interrupting. But overall beautiful 👏🏿

Thank you Pen for a great interview. I agree with Rob, now is the time to start agitating. Get the conversation going, make our young people think of what they want for their future and how they will get it? I agree with both of you, enough is enough. This is the first of your shows that I've watched. I look forward to catching. Thanks for being a light...

Hi Penuel i love your podcast im learning a lot from you and your guests

This is refreshing, the fact that humans can conversate about real issues that affect everyone irrespective of their color. We are so caught up in race in SA that we fail to even appreciate honest conversation.

The conversations we need to have - DANKO Black Pen! ❤️🙏🇿🇦

Thank you for a brilliant interview. Thank you Penuel! Your a legend!

This is very infromative and eye opening, hopefully we can have more platforms like this that provoke the kind of thought that helps move our country forward these guys are both true patriots of our nation and want the same bright future for our country yet they are not of one race truly inspiring.

Beautiful interview. Fantastic soul -- Mr. Hersov. May the universe conspire in your favour! And Penuel, your podcast rocks! Keep it up!

Huge respect for both of you Well Done guys

Just found your channel... more power to you. Im an instant fan! :) Lets be on the right side of history and support Rob and others fighting for the people of RSA!

I watched the episode fully today, and I just want to say, its working, what you're doing is so inspiring and positive, its amazing, and one day I'll be on your platform, doing the same thing, EMPOWERING OTHERS!!! More love Big bro✊ By the way, Mr Rob seems and sounds like an honest man, it was my first time knowing about him and his family's legacy/story, very inspiring, and the lesson I got from him is more or less the same with other successful people, which is "work hard for what you want, be intentional, and understand the proverb which says, You cannot have your cake and eat it". Pretty powerful staff!

Please tell Rob I was one of a few people who wanted to buy the fisantekraal air space. We had a blue print in how we wanted to develop that area. I'm in Kenya now and a friend of mine send me a message, reminding me that about 20 years ago , I had plans to develop that airport. It's amazing that money came on board and in my time I couldn't fine financing. I'd really love to be part of that. So, it's not a new thing Rob. I was one of the pioneers.....but it's unknown information

Thank you for this amazing interview. This gives me hope for our county.

This is hands down the best episode so far ! Have nothing to criticise 🤭You doing a phenomenal job Penuel, keep it up!.

The Pen ! The Pen. We love inspiring podcasts like this. Rob THANKU for always making yourself available. Love u both.

Amazing platform! Great interview. Well done Pen!

Man I'm loving The Penuel Show. What an insightful interview.

Great conversation and hope more of these are taken heed of within a proudly South African context. Excited to see what sorts of projects your collaboration comes up with and do hope that you also include the voices of the uneducated which the majority of South Africans speak as a voice of. The old cliché of hearing what only the educated have to say, in my opinion, stifles the raw talent available in South Africa as the so called educated have been trained to think and act within a certain paradigm and afraid to colour out of the lines to actually bring about prosperity or change.