People on Paradise Are NOT Engineers - Who Are They ?

People on Paradise Are NOT Engineers - Who Are They ? - Alien Covenant

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People on Paradise or Planet 4 are not Engineers.
The planet David bombed is not the Engineers home wold.
Many people have assumed that they are Engineers because at the end of Prometheus Shaw instructed David to take her to the engineer homeworld to obtain the answers. But given that Shaw was put in cryosleep and David always has his own plans, he could go to a completely another planet.
Based on that and other evidence from the movie and the Prologue Promo I think that those humanoid beings that David bombed are not Engineers and I have a theory how they relate to humans and the actual engineers that we’ve seen in Prometheus. Ridley also never said they’re not Engineers, he left it quite ambiguous for people to ponder and think.
If they were Engineers and David Destroyed them then who’s in the space jockey seat that would be discovered 30 years later.
Also, When David lands the Juggernauts, these beings are marveling and excited at the presence of the ship. If you look closely you’ll see a crowd flow out from some kind of temple to a massive arena.
They also look slightly different than Engineers, they’re equally bold for some reason but their skin is not as pale and they're are shorter.
Also If they were Engineers, they would have countermeasures due to being experienced in the effects of the Goo since it appears that they created the Black Goo in the first place.
The inhabitants of the Paradise don’t have any means of protection and when David attacked them They all just ran, confused and unable to grasp what was happening and how they could survive it.
The city was noticeably rural and primitive even compared to the current urban architecture not even considering that Engineers are intergalactic and highly advanced species capable of creating life.
All this evidence leads to the point that people that David destroyed are completely another race created by Engineers. Possibly their planet is another branch of "humanity" seeded by the engineers just like the earth was. By their appearance, they are genetically closer to Engineers than humans.
Inhabitants of Paradise worshiped Engineers and viewed them as their Gods, Pretty much like ancient civilizations on Earth. in their mythologies, it written that a long time ago Gods lived amount ordinary people and ruled them. Gods are also portrayed like giants in Ancient Egypt and other cultures which is so similar to what we See in Prometheus and Alien Covenant.
Probably Engineers left the Planet 4 a very long time ago, just like they left Earth and finally after 2000 years the Juggernaut finally arrives and these people celebrate the return of Engineers. But unfortunately it’s David and not their creators.
But I think he knew that the Planet was populated by other humanoid species and purposely destroyed it for another reason. Since David is obsessed with killing his creators and the creators of his creators he thought that the Black Goo would not be strong enough as a weapon to whipe out the Engineers. For this reason he decided to make the entire Planet his own laboratory and turn its humanoid inhabitant into lab rats to develop xenomophs an ultimate weapon that would be capable of destroying Engineer and their Planet.
It looks like his plan was such full and at the of Alien: Covenant, he has xenomorphs and the entire ship at his disposal.
Actually a few days ago, a screenwriter Damon Lindelof who worked with on Ridley Scott , said in an interview that the planet that we see in Alien Covenant is not Engineer home world. It’s not exactly what Damon and Ridley original planned for it and the planet ended up being a detour settlement for what can be actual Engineer home world.
There is also one inhabitant that steps out of the crowd when the Juggernauts arrives.
Another interesting detail is that there are no Females in the crowd on Paradise. Perhaps their species themselves are engineered. They may not be born or have an entirely different mode of reproduction that is dependent on Engineers. Perhaps they need some version of the Black Goo to reproduce and since Engineers did not appear for hundreds of years, their race was slowly dying off. To the point that there is one city left on the entire planet and its inhabitants celebrated the arrival of Jugernauts because they thought it would literally give them life. If this theory is true, then maybe When David learned the Engineer ways, he also learned about this planet and thought and it would be better to destroy this kind of humanoid race and stop thier slow and painful extinction
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@elMrLocoGames 3 жыл бұрын

I really love how fans theories are way better than films' plot.

@ireadcomments.4710 3 жыл бұрын

Arm chair quarterbacks

@egregiousqueef7781 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but he says they are "primitive" but yet somehow have a complex spaceship docking station that can hover above their city. I saw some other theory that there are 2 competing factions of engineers - ones who are peaceful and live simply & then the ones who are more interested in conquest.

@egregiousqueef7781 3 жыл бұрын

Remember too at the end of Prometheus David - supposedly - tells Shaw he's progammed the ship to go to their "home world"

@namelastname2449 3 жыл бұрын

True

@KLanio-lr8yv 3 жыл бұрын

Not that hard in this case

@kingdomcitizenship5613 Жыл бұрын

It's so disappointing that Scott isn't doing anymore with the Engineers. Such a great concept and so much potential for storytelling. It's really a shame that we won't see anymore about them on the big screen

@ia285 Жыл бұрын

Wait what do you mean he's not?

@kingdomcitizenship5613 Жыл бұрын

@@ia285 He said he isn't telling anymore stories about them, he's more interested in telling stories about the Predators during different periods of time (PREY) and the aliens.

@walkalways8327 Жыл бұрын

there is no continue movie after thhe covenant?

@rohlay00 Жыл бұрын

It's very disappointing, so much potential... Why doesn't anyone create films with depth to it? It's a huge opportunity to explore philosophy and get laypeople interested in philosophy. This world is too damn superficial, only fighting scenes and gore sell...

@utathyamanna6435 Жыл бұрын

@@walkalways8327 prometheus was slightly above average but covenant was fucked , everything idea with any potential is turned goofy these days, to cut down run time, both of those movies could have been better if they took about 20 more minutes to expand the lore

@DF-ss5ep 2 жыл бұрын

I think they can still be engineers. My theory is that engineers in Prometheus were genetically improved through technology. Remembering the video about the dialogue between the engineer and David, the engineers wanted to either create a species that was not too technologically advanced or that was pacifist, so that it can be sustainable. Humans were a failed attempt at this creation, so they wanted to reboot them. The engineers themselves were not sustainable, either because they had too much technology or were too aggressive. The alien ships in Prometheus were trying to invent ways to save their species, that's why David and Shaw are received by a cheering crowd when arriving at the new planet. David becomes disgusted at the engineer species, as he used to considered them superior and now he sees them living in huts, so he wipes them out and decides to create himself the superior species. This ties in the themes of technology and pacifism, as David is the epitome of these two features: he is the result of extreme technological development (AI) and he creates the least pacifist species, an ultra-aggressive parasite.

@quintonmiller8266 2 жыл бұрын

New. Then we're created. It's already been confirmed.

@neverwinta7702 2 жыл бұрын

Spot on ........we have elites, like astronauts, pro sports player etc. What ever they planned was changed only Ripley/Director can tell.

@thomasducluzeau7745 3 жыл бұрын

This actually struck me when david brought the covenant crew into the city. You can see that the remains of the inhabitants are actually about the same size members of the crew are. Clearly not as tall and muscular as the engineers.

@tetrasphere8165 2 жыл бұрын

They look like hybrids of us and them. Pale but normal skin although bald. Unlike the engineers. Smooth with black eyes. And the upgraded bioorganic ones like the sleeping engineer is also different. The one who drank the goo and the monks watching didn't have these permanent body suits

@jooyoonchung3593 Жыл бұрын

Imagine you collect all pro football players together as a group, and compare that group to an ordinary random group of peoples. They would be as different as the two groups of Engineers. No need to propose two different species.

@necatkarasahin8544 Жыл бұрын

they are a more favoured creation more peaceful and passed the trials and obeyed the rules set opposed the humans who are war mongers and destructive, God mocking

@kybone25 Жыл бұрын

@Necat Karasahin Best explanation I have read. Totally makes sense.

@passingoutnails 7 жыл бұрын

All of the engineer's depicted in Prometheus and Covenant can be explained by a class system and their ability to manipulate genetics. There are 3 types of engineers shown in the prequels: regular engineers, sacrificial engineers, and military engineers. 1). Regular engineers, shown in the extended earth-seeding scene in Prometheus and in Covenant being exterminated, seem genetically varied/imperfect and probably reproduce naturally. 2). Sacrificial engineers, shown in Prometheus, have perfectly symmetrical god-like features and proportions and were probably grown in a lab to ensure there DNA was worth replicating. 3). Military engineers, seen in Prometheus, also have perfect, god-like features but also a special bio-mechanical body augmentation to aid in space travel/battle presumably (also lab born). They seem to have a society like Plato's Republic, various levels with various roles (presumably more than these 3), and only those who require genetic alteration/advantage will receive it based on their duties. The really old, native american looking engineers depicted in the extended seeding scene in Prometheus and in stone head statues in Covenant are presumably philosopher king types, wise old elites.

@passingoutnails 7 жыл бұрын

My question is If populating distant planets is so easy for engineers to do naturally/biologically as is seemingly depicted by the settlement in Covenant then why all the genetic goo and waiting billions of years for evolution to run it's course (just to just wipe them out). Seems like they could get a new planet up and running much faster by the means used by the colonist on Covenant. We went from 1 billion people to 7 billion people in 100 years on Earth. That settlement in Covenant was pretty small for having been around since life began evolving on Earth...

@Reprodestruxion 7 жыл бұрын

passingoutnails timelords vs Gallifreyans

@passingoutnails 7 жыл бұрын

I like the analogy. Has me picturing the Doctor sneaking into a lab and shooting himself up with a black goo concoction and stealing a juggernaut... lol

@passingoutnails 6 жыл бұрын

I can't find any theoretical flaws in that...

@burthabard8316 6 жыл бұрын

passingoutnails fallen angels the men of old there in the bible they are satans seed to kill gods creation man

@cookiesnugglez7318 3 жыл бұрын

I think David did know, he got rid of another humanoid species created by the Engineers because he thought it would draw them out, he had no idea where their homeworld is but he knows a way where he could get their attention

@singood7790 2 жыл бұрын

Nope! The engineer said planet earth was the only successful experiment in which life was created by them.

@alexcabrera587 2 жыл бұрын

@@singood7790 his actually right kinda. That planet david destroyed was like a younger earth. Hence why the libe primitive. In the next movie the engineers are gonna come too that planet see wat david did and go after him

@tetrasphere8165 2 жыл бұрын

Or he's trying to experiment so he can effectively dominate them. Or at least protect himself from them so he has leverage when he meets them.

@kybone25 5 жыл бұрын

Another theory i have is that the engineers were in decline due to having lost their ability to reproduce, as revealed by the original script, but before their numbers dropped to a critical point, they were able to create a new species SIMILIAR to themselves. One that would preserve their history and culture and therefore not be lost to history. And perhaps the engineers didnt give these planet 4 beings all their advanced technology as they feared it might corrupt them and cause their extinction.

@nealthomson9505 3 жыл бұрын

I also think that the planet that they bombed was a colony that was either forgotten or that was deserted. The planet was way to primative to have been a homeworld or even to have been a main planet or central hubb. This planet was a big laboratory.

@KB-nt7eg Жыл бұрын

Did you even watch the movie?

@drv.k5 Жыл бұрын

@@KB-nt7eg I watched the movie but are you expecting a new movie or season 3??

@samuelblouin3692 7 жыл бұрын

Ok, now I know Why there is a 1.5 speed option on youtube.

@lipservice9818 7 жыл бұрын

Samuel Blouin How do you change the speed?

@fern__. 6 жыл бұрын

Best knowledge on earth

@tex7962 5 жыл бұрын

i used tu play it on 1.5 the whole vid

@motherandsondiaryuk9672 5 жыл бұрын

it's better on 1.25 speed

@trollzynisaacjohan1793 4 жыл бұрын

@@motherandsondiaryuk9672 nah 0.25

@blan_k4691 5 жыл бұрын

I just hope he doesn't kill off the engineers because they are what honestly made me interested in the franchise. I think David is a really unique character too. Interested in seeing where it'll go.

@tetrasphere8165 2 жыл бұрын

David is the main character

@aliveonmoonrocks 11 ай бұрын

Currently Prometheus killed off THE LAST ENGINEER. So we won't see another.

@davebear9825 8 ай бұрын

RS had said that their are Engineers left and that some will return to Planet 4... but we will no longer be doing any sequels. But yeah in Context to the Franchise and a Race who have been traveling the Universe (they visit other Galaxies) then there are Engineers out there still

@immadoyarealgood7803 2 жыл бұрын

4 years late here, but yeah man... I think you've nailed it with this vid. You let the evidence lead to the conclusion without adding external to bolster your case. This is very well thought out and presented concise. You've convinced me, nice work

@DirtCobaine Жыл бұрын

The whole idea of engineers is always such a fascinating concept. Halo has the exact same concept. Mass Effect. It’s always fascinating to me. But the engineers physical looks and their proto indo European language absolutely captures my imagination like no other. I love the idea that they look like Greek statues. To me it’s so believable.

@masamune2984 11 ай бұрын

I always love the Greek statue nod too, since it obviously plays into the lore as well😊

@DirtCobaine 11 ай бұрын

@@masamune2984 it’s a shame what they did with them. One can only hope they do some sort of reboot

@nicolina1026 5 ай бұрын

Too bad he made this not bothering to research how Greek statues actually looked. They were painted bright colors and essentially were the pop art of the ancient world, the white marble we see now is not how they looked at all.

@nicolina1026 5 ай бұрын

@@masamune2984The Greek statues in antiquity had brightly painted colors. Surprised he didn't bother looking that up

@M.T.... 7 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah...makes sense... By the way, they were all normal human sized. Not like 7 ft tall. All the furniture and items on the planet was normal human sized and their technology looked less advanced.

@JohnnyZenith 7 жыл бұрын

Avalon Run Engineers are around 8ft tall.

@unrhu 7 жыл бұрын

Avalon Run And it took a video telling you those rte not the engineers for you to put that together? hahaha

@unrhu 7 жыл бұрын

Avalon Run Yea poke fun at it let's all have a good laugh. Meanwhile, back at the ranch you still can't tell the difference between a 8ft giant and a white man white a bald head, i guess it takes an Internet genius to decipher that hahaha. I think we'd have more laughs poking fun at that.

@M.T.... 7 жыл бұрын

You don't have a girlfriend do you?

@unrhu 7 жыл бұрын

Avalon Run You don't have a brain do you?

@jonathonaleman 3 жыл бұрын

Would like to interject that there were quite a few "feminine" faces in that crowd. They likely don't have females with long hair and what we would consider "clear" feminine features

@jofujenkins 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, BUT in a deleted scene from Prometheus, the last Engineer said that Earth was the only planet where they were able to *successfully* seed life.

@jojolafrite90 2 жыл бұрын

That's why they delete scenes. Also for bad studio reasons, but sometimes it's because the story just changed during filming.

@Rahab369 2 жыл бұрын

Iirc correctly, they didn't specifically say that it was the only planet they successfully seeded with life, but rather it was the one planet of many, that had successfully become like their homeworld.

@wankawanka3053 Жыл бұрын

Just like you said deleted scene

@levyan4718 2 жыл бұрын

They are beings worthy of the engineers love, they treated their paradise with respect and lived in harmony with the world... Humans did not.

@kyuutpie 2 жыл бұрын

I saw Female colonists in the crowd during Alien Covenant. It was right before every one started running and were looking confused. You can even see them running while panicked about the black spores and in the crowed you show at 5:59. They are a lot smaller and have smoother facial features and a more triangle jaw line compared to the square jaw line and bulbous eye brows and noses of the males.

@futureskeletons66669 9 ай бұрын

I was looking for a comment saying this before posting, myself. There definitely are females.

@AlexH8280 6 жыл бұрын

"There are no females in the crowd on Paradise". As he shows a still image featuring females. Smh

@offtherealm5438 4 жыл бұрын

I've watched it many times, yes there are females in the crowd. In the next film...I hope they go to the Xenoengineers' home world, the ones from Prometheus. Their culture, architecture and existence is the MOST interesting since "Aliens".

@coreykelly9189 4 жыл бұрын

And man assumed romans were the first homosexuals guess it was engineers ...Huh there you have it.. maybe females were androids

@mikecernovic4780 4 жыл бұрын

@@coreykelly9189 Believe me, they still are.

@jasminejohnson5704 4 жыл бұрын

@@coreykelly9189 look @ 2:30 into the video in the crowd on the left. Clearly a bald female wearing a hat.

@jasminejohnson5704 4 жыл бұрын

Alex look at 2:30 isn't that a female in the crowd? I'm sure they have bald women.

@freshrot420 5 жыл бұрын

Oh man, that smiling Engineer is precious! I'd love to see events leading to a genuine smile like that, like seeing one of your creations bring peace to the universe. I also wish they hadn't cut the part from Prometheus where the Engineer stopped to appreciate the music and books we'd made. That would add some much needed juxtaposition to how much Engineers hate us.

@utahwerewolf9932 3 жыл бұрын

I think that was from a screen test. They wanted to check whether Ian Whyte could speak and change facial expressions freely despite all this stuff on his face. Though I can't say I disagree, I really wish they involved the scenes with the books and music in the movie, they made the Last Engineer look more sophisticated than a walking tank and actually showed that humans might have something in common with their creators. It would be interesting to see a smiling Engineer in a movie... though probably quite creepy :D

@maestro-zq8gu 2 жыл бұрын

So the weird thing is in the Prometheus script apparently when they awoke that engineer, it told David it was from Paradise. That would explain why David chose to go there. All I can think is Paradise was that engineer's assigned location. The species there being his responsibility.

@bosteador 7 жыл бұрын

In any case WHY is there only a tiny town in the entire planet? That makes no sense to me either.

@bacomiric1681 6 жыл бұрын

Alan Alban I had the same question. Huge planet and yet only one small town.

@liquidemotionzz3232 6 жыл бұрын

He said why it was the beginning of that civiliztion and focused on that one spot before spreading them to the entire planet...read a fucking book

@michaelbarker3749 6 жыл бұрын

Alan Alban sake with star wars.

@krishnarao3740 6 жыл бұрын

Probably cause they were created after humans, so one the population wouldn't be so large and two their technologies probably wouldn't be as advanced as human tech. Also to top it off this video said that the place was more of a temple rather than a town so it would perhaps be that it is merely in an isolated location from other cities

@krzysztofpiasek5682 5 жыл бұрын

Liquide Motionz civilizations do not begin like that. Are you fucking stupid?

@benmorrow1701 2 жыл бұрын

I think these guys are the creations of the engineers who obeyed. When the real engineer saw that human wanted to transcend, and even create a being in their own image (David), the engineer rips off David’s head. I wonder if David really wanted to get back at the engineers by killing their creation (these guys), who subordinate/worship and serve the engineers, with no desire to transcend.

@pozspeakerau Жыл бұрын

Kroft, you've hit the nail on the head, I've often wondered the same thing. How much research have you done on this subject, I find it extraordinary

@Javert2012 11 ай бұрын

My fan theory is this: Ridley Scott wanted to portray the Engineers as this surreal mix of ancient cultures and highly advanced technology. Too bad it didn't work out. Our own culture/generation is quite literal-minded

@thesaucewhisperer6073 7 жыл бұрын

These theory videos are better than the actual movie lol keep up the awesome theorys

@kroft_movies 7 жыл бұрын

thanks bro

@T--kq3pj 7 жыл бұрын

lets theorize a bit more and make this movie better haha

@JohnnyZenith 7 жыл бұрын

The Zee Group It's not a theory. They are not Engineers.

@holdendaugherty1760 7 жыл бұрын

Kroft talks about Movies the space jockey seat from alien had crashed there thousands of years earlier and it had fossilized

@T--kq3pj 7 жыл бұрын

JohnnyZenith its not, no matter how muxh you want it to be true

@damian_madmansnest 7 жыл бұрын

This theory makes much more sense than Ridley Scott who confirmed that David wiped out Engineers.

@leofreire8540 7 жыл бұрын

deharleyva Same.

@SuperMrFriendly 7 жыл бұрын

to much alex jones stuff is not popular with many segments of vieuwership. few years ago it didnt matter. now its walking on thin ice

@peste2574 6 жыл бұрын

Ridley isn't the one who wrote Covenant. He directed it, there's a difference. Like when he said: "Deckard, in my vision, is a replicant". But for Ford, he was Human. And the writers didn't give two shits.

@Morphologicallyy 4 жыл бұрын

he wiped out engineers on that planet, pretty sure he didnt mean the whole race

@joeesperanto678 4 жыл бұрын

@Cool Breeze If David the psychopathic cybernetic android does indeed go around the entire planet killing off every "Engineer" out there, or begins to assassinate other types of living organism that he sets his eyes on, then the franchise has indeed turned into a sort of 3rd rate outer space Terminator-esque movie. Very dull and unoriginal.

@lunanova369 2 жыл бұрын

If you look into the whole concept of Lemurians vs the Atlanteans, the theme of the more human-looking "engineers" vs the scientist, aeronaut Engineers takes shape. One group is the more primitive, human-like inhabitants living in Paradise (Lemuria) & from them evolved the Atlanteans which led to science/technology overtaking nature due to being taken too far. This caused a distinct separation of the 2 groups. Lemuria was called paradise. The Lemurians were a peaceful humanoid people. The Atlanteans ended up destroying everything and there was a mass cataclysm. Nature was destroyed due to science. Very similar themes and many parallels. Love your videos!

@jaasonmiller 3 жыл бұрын

Covid-19 was released by the engineers who’ve finally returned after 2 millenniums

@toecutter303 3 жыл бұрын

Chinese = Engineers

@alexnickson5927 3 жыл бұрын

Not as deadly & efficient as black goo...

@aldofromsf 3 жыл бұрын

Dr Fauci and the Chi-Coms.

@toecutter303 3 жыл бұрын

@@aldofromsf Fauci is the puppet, not the puppeteer.

@toecutter303 3 жыл бұрын

@@aldofromsf but he's not the master.

@NewSage 7 жыл бұрын

Dude... I have to comment. You have some of the best movie theories around. Period. Obvious deep thinker. You always make really good points, that make one say... Hmm... Great job, bro. Keep them coming.

@iceberg760 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, what he said💯

@wangson 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It took me a good bit to get over his speech cadence but his theories on film really are well thought out and considerate.

@dionysius1b870 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I just found this channel. Have been watching non-stop for a couple weeks he's right on the money with everything it's amazing!

@thedarksideoftheforce6658 2 жыл бұрын

@@wangson He sounds like he took some medicine that made him sleepy. Lol

@H8erade 6 жыл бұрын

My thought. The Engineers have access to time travel. The beings seen in Covenant (the civilization) and Prometheus (the ones that seeded Earth) are Engineer predecessors. These ancestors have encountered their descendants before, hence their excitement at the arrival of the Juggernaut. It's possible the Engineers visit their ancestors regularly to offer knowledge and protection. Explaining the presence of the Mother Juggernaut ship, in that it was left behind as a watchtower and threat deterrent (as it appears to have shot down the Juggernaut). These ancestors seeded Earth and for the most part, appear to be benevolent in nature. However, David's attack on their home world sparked a paradigm shift in their evolution. Survivors of the attack, having undergone genetic alteration on behalf of the black goo, were left mutated amidst the destruction. Explaining why the Engineers have an almost Xenomorph appearance. The creator becomes destroyer, as their once peaceful race turns to hatred and violence. Fueled by revenge, they seek the destruction of man. If David created the Xenomorph, then how did the Engineers have prior knowledge of them, as the stone wall in Prometheus clearly depicts one? Since we know that the Xenomorph resulted from David's tedious and precise manipulation of genetic material from both the Engineer home world and Dr. Shaw, the only answer is time travel. David is essentially, though inadvertently, the Engineers creator in a sense. His actions monumentally altered their evolution on a genetic, cultural and environmental scale. Maybe this is why the Engineer marveled and adorned David in Prometheus, just before ripping his head off. Gratitude, then ultimately disdain for one's creator is a prevalent theme in the two films.

@fredrichodie 5 жыл бұрын

This is mind blowing and the best theory I've seen

@PabloLFCX 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent.

@Hossak 3 жыл бұрын

From what I have gleaned - this is the story behind the ideas of Prometheus and Covenant. The engineers have become immortal but in doing so have also become sterile. They go around, seeding planets with the golden goo (opening of Prometheus) so that the life that evolves, potentially parallels their own and results in a species that they can breed/reproduce with. They come back from time to time to assess whether the accelerated evolution is going on the right course, if things are not going as planned, they introduce the black goo to essentially wipe all traces of life produced by the golden goo from the eco system. They do this well before the evolved life have a chance to develop enough technologically to threaten the engineers (earth - but that plan did not work). The planet that David wiped out was not the engineer's home world but one of the worlds that was showing great promise as the humanoids there closely resemble the engineers. This was the reason why the engineers also had one of their ships hovering/protecting the world when David arrived. However David identified it as such from the ship they took over and eliminated it to stop the engineers from realising their goal of producing a species that they could mate with. Needless to say, the engineers are not going to be happy.

@frederickh7666 2 жыл бұрын

@@Hossak Love these theories

@younglobwedge 5 жыл бұрын

There are obviously females in the crowd. They're just all bald. You can tell by their facial structure. There's multiple. For example, 02:27 at the bottom left.

@elgenfranord1651 3 жыл бұрын

They are males you know that some males can allso have feminen look not everyone is build the same

@meisterproper8304 3 жыл бұрын

@@elgenfranord1651 So the first thing you assume when seing a female is that it's a feminine male. For all we know they could all be extremely masculine females, because you know not everyone is built the same

@danny5018 2 жыл бұрын

Didn't one of the scripts where the engineer talked, actually say that humanity was the only race they managed to create that actually worked? They must be engineers.

@Meilk27 2 жыл бұрын

Correct the original script had the last engineer describe how they were the only Starchild the only one that came of their Elders blood successfully

@masonb9788 7 жыл бұрын

I didn't assume they were Engineers. I was surprised when all these KZfaq guys started calling them Engineers. We didn't know that for sure.

@My2Cents1 7 жыл бұрын

It's because it was assumed from Prometheus that David and Shaw were going to "where they came from". But something happened with what was supposed to be a Prometheus sequel, to instead becoming more of an Alien movie. I liked it, but it wasn't the Prometheus sequel I wanted. Hollywood politics. :(

@mjm3091 6 жыл бұрын

We didn't meet any other engineers, tho - and we don't have name for those aliens aka human ver. 0.5b. At the same time we can all the engineers and those aliens as humans. Heck, after Convenant we can call Xenomorphs as humans.

@harveydents 6 жыл бұрын

Maybe the NExt movie will be the Prometheus sequel. Remember There is an SCOTT interview where he says the NEXT movie will be the promethus sequel. NOT in TIMELINE but in structure. ALIEN AWAKENINGS will be a sequel to covenant but will be closer to Promethus...my guess at least

@Hossak 3 жыл бұрын

@marcussherlock6318 6 жыл бұрын

It's an error to assume that all members of a species belong to the same faction or culture, as it is also a mistake to assume that the technological progression curve for civilisation must always trend upwards.

@autondafe 2 жыл бұрын

For years I wanted them to explore the Space jockey mythos , ever since the first Alien movie , now however I wish they hadn't . I realize now that the Space jockey and grounded ship was a metaphor for the transience of power, an Ozymandian thing , look on ye mighty works and weep . Even an advanced civilization as this fell before the alien and this presages what could also happen to space faring humanity and the hubris of Wayland Yutani. Just like the siren , it was a warning from time . These days it's fashionable to make it all about the protagonist , they did this with james Bond , making Blofeld his brother . So now in the Alien franchise they have made humanity the centre of things . i think this reduces the ominous threat of the Alien and has relegated it to being a bit player in the grand scheme

@erenyeaga4518 2 жыл бұрын

Same

@adarnia 3 жыл бұрын

this is why a 2and half hour movie is so hard to do if you have this incredible story. an HBOmax Alien prequel series needs to happen.

@secrom1014 3 жыл бұрын

Literally had it at 1.5 speed due to the comments and after 1 min I forgot I had it on, it all felts so normal

@FRMJD1996 2 жыл бұрын

In my own opinion, I think Paradise may have been like an Engineer Farming Colony. Definitely not their home world, whether David knew beforehand or discovered this afterwards. The fact that we see crops like wheat growing here and that there is only one settlement on the entire planet, leads me to conclude that there is no way this could have been where the Engineers originated. I as well think that David finding out afterwards that he was mistaken about this world, that his intended total genocide of the Engineers was a failure, and this spurring him to murder Shaw, start experimenting with the biological weapons, and eventually create the Xenomorphs, would fit perfect with his arrogance and need for both perfection and approval. How he muses about Bryon, Ozymandias, and their greatness, while completely missing the point of that sonnet, the arrogance of rulers and their failings to achieve "greatness" plays into this as well. I think David brushing the whole thing off as a, "Actually I didn’t fail, this has all just helped me to achieve my end goal," would be very in character and explain a lot of his actions in Covenant.

@wangson 3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Again, really well thought out, logical and consistently well-argued. Excellent considerations here! Well done!

@steveg6978 2 жыл бұрын

David must have stopped at Galactic Android Repairs along the way ....LOL !

@nicolangot 7 жыл бұрын

i thought i noticed some females

@stickygumshoes 7 жыл бұрын

nico bang yes there are females in the crowd.

@ajoajoajoaj 5 жыл бұрын

@Raku Ichijo In the still at 6:00 at the bottom right and second from the left.

@joeesperanto678 4 жыл бұрын

@Raku Ichijo I don't know if these Engineer hybrids are females or not, all I do know is that the creepy looking baldy one on 3:02 over to the right looks an awful lot like an angry Will Ferrell playing the part of Gordon Sonland.

@klickklack3949 3 жыл бұрын

@@ajoajoajoaj no long hairs and no tits visible... I think they are all guys unless we see a real female

@MikhailKrasnikov 3 жыл бұрын

Nice to hear from you, Mr. Bang :D

@quatchkopf8958 7 жыл бұрын

The one engineer was Will Ferral.

@kroft_movies 7 жыл бұрын

lol true

@joeesperanto678 4 жыл бұрын

At 3:02 it's Will Ferrell playing the part of Gordon Sonland.

@marshmellowarrior 2 жыл бұрын

Take a drink every time he says engineers.

@wolfgangbuck841 6 жыл бұрын

I did not read the comics. I thought that they are definitely different, but they are related. It gives imagination to many different worlds and species. The possibilities are endless! Keep em coming Kroft! Love your vids.

@keithtrayer5073 3 жыл бұрын

Why has no one presumably noticed the different style ship at the beginning of Prometheus. When the engineer is about to sacrifice himself. The ship hovering, seemingly acknowledging his sacrifice is different than any other ship in the series. It seems to me that this is yet another species that the engineers answer to.

@bermudabarracuda1902 2 жыл бұрын

How I see it those two types of ships are clearly designed for different purposes. The huge one is for civilian transport while the one Shaw and friends discovered is for military purposes: smaller (smaller target), faster, more agile, transporting biological weapons. We don't drive around in the same car model either, do we?

@blindingedge980 6 жыл бұрын

Dude, your voice coupled with the background music you chose = mesmerizing.

@LeMecMoustachu Жыл бұрын

Many questions, few answers. We need that 3rd prequel movie.

@vaalejo1sarchive494 6 жыл бұрын

Man I admit, I was a little thrown off by the voice at first, but this video is incredibly informational and clear! Makes me appreciate the movies more. Good job.

@rossscarsellato1442 2 жыл бұрын

I think the species that David destroyed were precursors or unmodified engineers. Or they're like a religious sect of the engineers. Kind of like the amish. The engineers without bio suits are the genetically modified version. The ones with bio suits are a more advanced version. Its interesting how visually similar the bio suits and the final form xenomorphs are.

@metalgearshady7875 5 жыл бұрын

> trying to tie the Space Jockey into the "Prequel" universe and wondering about possible problems Wake up, Space Jockey was fossilized already, he was thousands years dead by that time, and it's only ~30 years after this movie. No point in trying to make sense of Scott's new version of stuff that's going on, it does not match the 1979 version at all, he just thought that the story of an android with power to create was more interesting so changed everything without much regard of it making sense in combination with 1979 version

@yeshazion4098 2 жыл бұрын

You do excellant videos.🙋💜🎉😊💙

@Maxumized 3 жыл бұрын

The entire Alien saga is simply about Ai taking over everything. Yes, the movie creators acknowledged that humans have a creator that will inevitably be overtaken by Ai...kinda like a game of Chess where David is moving the pieces to win the ultimate game of existence.

@jojolafrite90 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, only since the director started becoming old and having existential thoughts. But Alien was just a good horror movie.

@purplepineapple7893 2 жыл бұрын

@@jojolafrite90 that's the comforting response but you know creators have these thoughts even decades before you see the full picture. The first movies are great to pull ppl in especially if they are easy to follow and visually shocking in some way. After you are hooked, ppl can start moving their ideas and stories further.

@SCARFACE-gp4fy 2 жыл бұрын

@Purple Pineapple sorry Alein Aleins Alein3 extended edition only where great movies prometheus and covenant were terrible movie's not a patch on on the first 2 definitely not even the 3rd. Some of the aspects of the 2 prequels were interesting visuals were amazing. lazy writing, and most of the cast had zero charisma came across as wooden don't need to mention the idiotic crap that the crews in both movies do. They could have been great movies. Do you think David will do the fingering when he reaches the engineer homeworld.

@MichaelSkelton 2 жыл бұрын

This could've been such a tremendous film series but the entire plot and storyline went pear shaped after Prometheus, between the fixation on David as a central character, the death of Shaw, no real story resolution or answers about the Engineers. Sad.

@kn6706 6 жыл бұрын

I always assumed the engineers of Prometheus were the most superior of the race, genetically modelled to perfection by their scientists to be soldiers and stuff like that, and that the ones on Paradise were the "average" members of the species.

@anton3486 2 жыл бұрын

Im assuming that the Engineers in Prometheus left that planet so long ago and that is what elicited that reaction. Normally when soldiers or any type of military for that matter come back civilians stereotypically and traditionally celebrate the return. Im assuming that if this isnt the home world then it was an integral colony that was important to the Engineers. However David did say he knew how to navigate to the home world so its hard to imagine that he would know to go anywhere else unless there was some type of GPS system at work where it had routes to various colonies memorized and David chose to go to one to cultivate the Xenomorph weapon to ready himself for when he actually gets to the real home world. There is alot of potential with this story but I dont think were going to hear much more of the Engineers considering what has all happened with the story.

@spaceflight1019 2 жыл бұрын

The only problem is one of time. If you need to clear a planet of life so that you can reseed it (sounds like the Genesis Project) you can steer an asteroid into it. But it takes time for the biosphere to recover. Xenomorphs reproduce, kill off the indigenous species, and die once they run out of food, leaving eggs behind to be harvested for the next job. Far less time, but with the possibility of survivors waiting it out. The black goo is the next step, able to kill the entire planet rather quickly and efficiently. Thanks to the Predator franchise, we know that Xenomorphs predate human history.

@johnnylambert4809 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if since there's been movies of aliens versus predators wonder if the engineers had anything to do with the Predators meeting them in deep space or fighting them or making them as well that would be also very interesting to see in the timeline and movies if anybody is willing to come up with some of that I'm sure a lot of us are willing to see that being that the engineers are super developed in many aspects strength and knowledge as well as the predators

@weirdscience8341 6 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Ridley doesn't even know what the fuck he's doing

@vaalejo1sarchive494 6 жыл бұрын

That's what makes all this so fun!!! HHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

@automatik25 7 жыл бұрын

I always asked "Why do they look so different than in Prometheus"? I thought Ridley Scott just messed up with consistency.

@MarioTheLiopleurodon 7 жыл бұрын

Automatik space jockey vs engineer

@riccardopannain5067 7 ай бұрын

If you look closely you can notice that engineers in Prometheus have eyes full covered in black with no pupils, despite of the "engineers" that David has destroyed that appear to have more human-like eyes with pupils.

@patriaarquista1830 7 ай бұрын

That's correct sir. I have said this for years and people don't hear me.

@RAINIDONTMIND 3 жыл бұрын

There are definitely females on humanoid planet. They have no hair on their heads so more difficult to see. I hope there's a 3rd movie where the Engineers come and annihilate David.

@Lucas-ck1po 7 жыл бұрын

I was theorising many possible scenarios to explain the line while i was at the theater and i thought: _it's imposible that all these people are understanding a story this deep and unexplained_

@Hossak 3 жыл бұрын

@nfrancisj2122 3 жыл бұрын

I'm settling with the idea that the Xenomorphs are the creators. The Engineers are engineered as desired vessels, perfect for xenomorph reproduction, aimed at seeding planets with the sole purpose of creating more vessels in which more xenomorphs can be born. This "paradise" is just another farm. Also, Murals on the walls showing them as godly figures is good enough for me to come to this conclusion. The design of the ship and interior, and docking station are also designed around the physiology of the xenomophs which leads me to believe they are at the top of the creation chain.

@byronlemay2166 2 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting theory...I like it. Unfortunately, I don't think there's anyone (not even Scott himself) that could write a paragraph explaining the whole damn thing to us. I reckon the whole thing had too many fingerprints on it and it got all jacked up in the process. What a shame...because they nailed it with the reveal of the Space Jockey and it truly was a feast for the imagination...so intriguing and popular that it could have been the pinnacle of science fiction...and they dropped it in the toilet.

@aiman_yt 2 жыл бұрын

Xenomorphs arent intelligent so this makes zero sense

@nfrancisj2122 2 жыл бұрын

Ai maybe, but define intelligence in the broad scope of the universe? Sure a Xenomorph can't paint like Davinci, but can Davinci hunt like a xenomorph? 😉

@aiman_yt 2 жыл бұрын

@@nfrancisj2122 insects can also hunt, but no brain. It seems Xenomorphs only know how to destroy, not to create

@nfrancisj2122 2 жыл бұрын

Ai yes, but in the movies they are basically the army ants. They are the seek and destroy members of the colony. That's really all they show in the movies because well, it's a thriller. In the comics you find different types of xenomorphs. It's silly to see hunter killers gather food because in the movie they only kill. But anyway, think ant colony for the different roles. In the movie you see the queen and army ants, but there are more. I'm sure in the next few movies they will reveal more that will totally trashes my theory, but to date, with the info they give you, I'm sticking with my theory. 😂

@alchimiepsy 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting point of view... thank you

@Isawwhatyoudid 2 жыл бұрын

Take a shot every time he says engineer(s). Now you're dead.

@vernefits1953 6 жыл бұрын

engineers ship is like a big toilet seat u-shapped

@southernclassik 5 жыл бұрын

giant cock ring.

@ryandavid6143 5 жыл бұрын

Verne Fits kinda like nyc

@jojosoares3879 5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@ultimateanthony1883 5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@joeesperanto678 4 жыл бұрын

Thought it was a hoola hoop!

@cygnusbass 7 жыл бұрын

speed up to 1.5. thank me later

@PreciseAce 7 жыл бұрын

i always do with his videos lmao

@poelmeister 6 жыл бұрын

cygnusbass Indeed. Oh my god.

@thegoatfishplaysgames5570 6 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!

@MrCreepers21 6 жыл бұрын

God Bless you

@dzobie 6 жыл бұрын

Life saver!

@tibolcb6446 3 жыл бұрын

youtube is the allegory of answering questions by asking more question

@DarkRyderWhisky 2 жыл бұрын

A side channel covering which stretches you use before reaching so far is needed.

@thetonycam3944 3 жыл бұрын

Here's another one: David advanced so much as an AI automaton that he developed the hots for shaw and all this is just manipulating her to sleep with him.

@Inaros404 3 жыл бұрын

Theory: Youtja and Engineers... Predators vs. Engineers

@dermuro2457 6 жыл бұрын

I love all your videos sir 🤩

@Mike_11_16 3 жыл бұрын

I always viewed the humanoids that David eradicates as progenitor engineers (i.e the "origin" species) or a lower caste in the engineer society - those that either did not evolve with, or refused to subject themselves to the eugenic sciences that caused the superior evolution of the engineers we see in Prometheus, this making them a lower class people that look up to the genetically perfect engineers. They also could be another created race similar to humanity that just happened to evolve differently and look a little more like the engineer source material (bald, grey skin, etc)

@xnabr7603 4 жыл бұрын

I always thought the engineers had several ships on planet LV223 each assigned/stored to destroy a planet/colony from where they had previously created life. Earth and Planet 4 (paradise planet) being two of them.

@patrickdoherty3118 4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you David said that there were more ships on the planet and with that in mind the navigation system in the ship showed other planetary systems in the vastness of space that had perhaps been previously used or selected for Future use as suitable breeding grounds for experimentation. Also if there were more ships then I would have thought that there must be more elsewhere possibly doing the same. We need a new movie to answer the questions left with David and his new " family "

@bigbearddahuzi1036 2 жыл бұрын

Following David in Alien Covenant instead of the Engineers was so damn frustrating. Didn't care about him at all. And didn't learn much of anything interesting

@shaderyph 2 жыл бұрын

Yes... Big let down. Nobody gave a fat shit about the character. They glossed right over the thing we actually wanted. Engineers and xenos and the character we actually liked from Prometheus to be in the sequel. Shit movie.

@benvids Жыл бұрын

They’re low budget Engineers. They cut corners with the makeup and prosthetics.

@neverwinta7702 2 жыл бұрын

This saga will definitely go down in history. Sad I gotta wait for the next piece.

@holden6104 3 жыл бұрын

The more Ridley tried to explain, the stupider the story became.

@Hossak 3 жыл бұрын

@sjames5027 3 жыл бұрын

The story, like most Hollywood fiction, is predictive programming for the occult M/\sonic Elite's hoax alien threat to create a new world order. A long one but no other way to explain. The Elite are staging a fake alien threat to the Earth, which is why the Elite's controlled media have for decades convinced the masses that Alien visitors to Earth are real. An intense propaganda campaign that's so effective, if anybody on earth says, "That looks like an alien", they're all referring to the same image, the so called Alien Grey, what the media has convinced people is THE alien. A propaganda campaign that the sheeple thinks is a great covered up secret truth because that's what the controlled media told them to believe in shows like ancient Aliens and the X-Files. The Hoax will include a new Alien based religion. The hoax is based on the book of Enoch and the flood myth, and includes a new origin myth for man. Instead of Angels, there'll be Alien Greys, and instead of God, there'll be a fictional indestructible God like artificial intelligence. This is why Sci-Fi is often based on religion, such as the Nephilim in Prometheus, and why the storyline includes alien creation of man and mimics the hoax's narrative, it's predictive programming. A lot of the BS comes from Switzerland, as it's freem/\sonry central. Swiss M/\sons like Erich Von Daniken and Giorgio Tsoukalos got people used to the idea Gods were aliens. They'll eventually claim that in the ancient past there was a super advanced civilisation on Mars that destroyed itself in a nuclear war, which is why you have M/\sonic NASA and puppet Frontman Elon Musk making the sheep obsessed with Mars, as that's where a portion of the drama will be set, the fake discovery. NASA didn't release the fake pyramids on Mars photo for nothing, which was then disseminated to a global audience by the Elite's controlled media. The entire narrative is fed to the masses in episodes in the media in a propaganda campaign and yet the sheeple think it's a secret. They'll claim after this disaster, the imaginary Aliens, through the superior intellect of their "master r.ace", realised all conflict came from division, especially the primordial division of Gender, and so "Evolved" (as the occultists will put it) using technology to became "Gender Neutral". This is the reason the idea of Aliens being sterile is repeatedly raised in media propaganda, with stories about sex experiments in fictional Alien Abduction and the concept of "Alien Human Hybrids". This is why the fictional Alien Grey looks like it does. The image of the Alien Grey is disseminated to a global audience and is extremely consistent, as like any propaganda it needs to be consistent to sell its message. It's essentially a deformed human, missing ears and a nose in order to create as much difference as they can while still maintaining a familiar shape. The Grey is almost always portrayed naked so we can see it has no genitalia, is "Gender Neutral". Gender neutrality is a concept the controlled media started to brainwash into us in the last few years for this purpose. The fictional Alien Grey is another name for the A.ryan, what was the fictional A.ryan race? A concept of a superior human the M/\son occultists like Blavatsky, Manly P Hall, Alice Bailey of the UN's Lucifer publishing company, and the M/\sons footsoldier, H1tler, promoted. They all said the A.ryan was a superior race from the ancient past that "devolved" into us, became degenerated into us, and that we must become that race again through E.ugenics. And that plan has never changed, but they never defined the A.ryan before, so people's minds wandered and they all imagined the A.ryan was what they wanted to become as it's superior, themselves with all their flaws removed, a strong, super intelligent, healthy race, but that's not the Elite's plan. They have been promoting belief in a superior race under your nose, the Alien Grey. The alien Grey is human in appearance, a little man, as they couldn't convince us this race was what we had to become unless the invented race was relatable. If it looked truly alien there's no way they'd convince us. They'll claim the now genderless aliens had to live underground in bunkers on Mars to survive, but some of the survivors decided to c.olonise Earth and so travelled to Earth and mixed their genes, bred if you like, with "unevolved animals on earth", Early Man. Yes Avatar was more predictive programming. They'll claim this reintroduced the "curse" of gender and conflict started and got worse as the race degenerated into savagery, and that we must become genderless again if we are to survive and not destroy ourselves. The lie needs a stick of course, as the carrot isn't attractive enough. They'll say an ancient God like Alien A I saw this second planet being destroyed in War and so directed Meteors/ Comets to Earth to cause a flood. This is why M/\son shill Graham Hancock disseminated the idea the flood was real and caused by Comets. They'll say the Earth is now threatened by the risk of nuclear war (which is all staged by the way as the entire world is controlled by the globalist M/\sonic Elite with their puppets like Swiss Educated hidden hand flashing Kim Jong Un) and threatened by Environmental destruction, and so the imaginary God alien will destroy us again unless we "take the next step in human evolution" (c.astraion) and become superior "beings of peace" like the Angels (Greys). They've already staged Tsunamis like Fukushima and explosions like Tianjin and Beruit, that they'll soon claim were caused by Meteor impacts. The Gods must be seen to send a flood. Eventually a city will be destroyed under a mushroom cloud, and shills posing as conspiracy theorists will travel to the sealed off city and reveal there's no radiation in the media, this will start the main events leading to global slavery, the Elite's Utopia. There'll be more Tsunamis and Nuclear sites destroyed, and more "near misses" staged, as the imaginary God Alien must be seen to hate nuclear power / weapons. Whatever excuse they'll give us and whatever fancy occult mumbo jumbo excuse they give their minions in the fraternal orders is irrelevant, the simple truth is that the Elite have always known that the perfect slave starts with c.astration, the E.unuch. What they'll claim will be the same lies Manly P Hall told, that everybody has a male and female side, one dominant, one latent, which needs to join, fuse, marry, to create a "balanced" superior individual. Joining yin and yang, female and male, the so called Alchemical Wedding. See the occultist Manly P Hall's lecture "Marriage The Mystic Rite". They are psychologically preparing us to see gender as a swirling maelstrom that causes all conflict from the home to world war, especially "Toxic Masculinity". A division that must blend into one for "Balance", the balance of the force as occultist Hollywood puts it. The negative and positive poles of gender fusing into one, for no sex, no passion. Neutralising, neutering, for gender neutrality and "Permanent Peace" (slavery). This is why you get a lot of two into one propaganda in fantasy movies. In the movie Star Trek the motion picture, a God like Alien A I is going to wipe the Earth clean and start again, but this stopped when Decker and Ilya, male and female, fuse together. In Star Wars after the God Emperor is stopped, the Male Kylo dies and the Female, Rey, absorbs his masculine energy and becomes a genderless messiah, Rey Skywalker, an amalgam. You'll be seeing more occult two in one symbolism in the next matrix movies, perhaps Neo will inhabit a woman's body, or Neo and Trinity will be seen to share the same body.

@cajunpeople 3 жыл бұрын

@@sjames5027 God damn son TLDR, just say ‘aliens’ are the angels God cast from heaven and satan still rules all the kingdoms of the earth and leave it at that

@jaybilla919 3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why they don't want to get it right

@Gomezable 3 жыл бұрын

Story is awesome his choices on what he presents to the audience is what is stupid.

@tengamangapiu 2 жыл бұрын

This crowd of engineers might be of the "sacrificial" variety (the ones that are used to seed other worlds). What David did was to stop them from seeding new worlds (because he doesn't want other child civilizations competing with humans and therefore him). They were probably celebrating because their religion taught them that giving themselves as sacrifice is the noblest thing to do in their lifes.

@quintonmiller8266 2 жыл бұрын

New. They are a creation of the real ones, but these guys obeyed.

@user-skankhunt4242 2 жыл бұрын

David was dark as shit, he would not put people out of their misery out of the kindness of his heart. He was doing it for pure pleasure and creating xenomorphs.

@okc4029 3 жыл бұрын

Is there any movies about the Engineers? Cant find anything to see where the infos are coming from to do theories

@cinemaina666 7 жыл бұрын

It's pretty heavily implied that these are the engineers, various reasons why but also don't forget David has engineer sketches and bodies in his lab.

@DaCrazyMofo 5 жыл бұрын

Wait a minute! Wait just a minute! When the camera goes into the hole where the docking station was, there were more juggernauts held there! Not only that why does no one ever talk about what was coming out of these alternate humans after the black goo hit them! If you look closely there's arms and stuff coming out of them before they freeze in place dead!

@elgenfranord1651 3 жыл бұрын

Cuz they where given those ships by the Engineers to Honor them cuz they are mush closer to them then humans

@ReverbCanvas 2 жыл бұрын

1:40 that's just one gate of the citadel

@SnarkNSass Жыл бұрын

Bless you, five years ago Kroft😎😁

@wrathofmatt4298 7 жыл бұрын

Thought there were females on Paradise, I interpreted the film as basically what you said about them being closer to the engineers in a species had just had the docking area for the ship. Seeing the wheat and how close they all live together, you see that it's a giant village with farmers and probably fishermen before David. Like you said they are clearly worshiping the ship when it's docking. Apart from killing them all that was the best part of the film.

@stickygumshoes 7 жыл бұрын

WrathofMatt yes it's pretty clear that there are female inhabitants on that planet in those crowds, they just don't stand out as they too are bald.

@beatingchastard4102 7 жыл бұрын

Well... Honestly, as interesting and engaging a this theory is, realistically it has to be assumed that they are engineers. Your theory depends on the studio having thought this through as well as you have, which they evidently didn't do, considering Covenant's convoluted plot. The engineers are less pale because they don't live underground like the ones in Prometheus, they live on a beautiful, habitable world. Also, the living one in Prometheus was a military commander of some sort, hence his superior physical prowess. The engineers in Covenant look the same as the ones seen in the beginning of the Prometheus extended cut, they also wear the same clothes. The engineer who sacrificed himself did so because he was genetically the most perfect, he is physically powerful and his face is well proportioned, his skin is flawless and he is young and without disease, in his prime. The architecture is different because this isn't a military installation, it is a peaceful city. As humans, we do not decorate and design our cities in the same way we do our military forts, that wouldn't make much sense, neither do we have fighter jets constantly patrolling our city skies on the lookout for threats. The engineers are the galactic equivalent of the United States in the early 21st Century, and this was their 9/11. They had no reason to suspect an attack as they were the dominant force in the galaxy and had gone completely unchallenged for millennia, they seem to have evolved beyond the need to spark conflict with others, concentrating any and all of their efforts towards creation. They also had no reason to suspect that the Juggernaut would have been piloted by David, a malevolent android, had it been literally anyone else no bombing would have taken place, Shaw only wanted to talk and the Weyland corporation wouldn't have gone near the place. They probably assumed it was a vessel that had been lost for years and had finally returned, carrying ancient heroes from distant fallen colonies.

@hamsandwich6685 2 жыл бұрын

This makes sense. Also to add a bit to explain how the pilot space jockey is found 30 years later, post this engineer extinction event, since the engineers vastly explore the reaches of space, it is possible many are out there freely flying around, possibly checking out their previous creations, or even creating new ones. Since the engineers ships have cyro chambers for the engineers, it seems that their travel isn't warp capable or instant, so there could be traveling cyro sleep engineers out there.

@Tonatheos 2 жыл бұрын

That's what I've been saying for years. I also don't get why this guy says that there were no females in the crowd. I can make at least four of them

@DayVids636 2 жыл бұрын

good content man but I had to change the play back in settings to x 1.5

@johnparry9313 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with the previous comments -- it makes no sense that the Engineers would allow themselves to be destroyed by their own bioweapon in this way -- that would make them TSTL -- too stupid to live (the same category as the crew of Covenant, descending to an unknown planet with no biosecurity -- personal protective equipment -- at all). As far as I know Kroft is the only one to have questioned this aspect of the story on the web -- very well done.

@quintonmiller8266 2 жыл бұрын

That's not them, but a creation of by them. David does not know their home planet.

@retrokid1992 7 жыл бұрын

There were PLENTY of females in that crowd

@MouahbiAyoub 5 жыл бұрын

How come david created xeno's ? While in predator 2 we can see a xeno skull in the trophies chamber! This is confusing ...

@jacenjediknight89 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! 👍🏻

@AceAcabras 9 ай бұрын

I think that these people are examples of a species that evolved as the engineer intended.

@Whoisitthatknowsyourthinking 4 жыл бұрын

- There are females - Ridley Scott said in a interview that the people on that planet are engineer's.

@deathmoverz 4 жыл бұрын

Ok i will dislike this video 👏

@rickjohansson4257 4 жыл бұрын

They just ran out of blue paint.

@leafyshempharvest2722 3 жыл бұрын

Funny how Ridley changes his explanations after the fact

@Layeredworld 5 жыл бұрын

He has a really exciting voice

@leviacker1260 3 жыл бұрын

not...

@jojolafrite90 2 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna chose to believe that you were ironical here.

@Flocksta 2 жыл бұрын

There was a map of universe on the ship. I first saw the extended dialogue with david nd engineer yeaterday and now this pops up in recommended lol. As i remember david told shaw he could navigate.

@krike06 5 жыл бұрын

oh wow... did not think about that in that way

@erichsalvesen 7 жыл бұрын

Mankind has traveled to the moon but there are still humans who haven't learned how to make fire. Could the engineers not be a species unified behind one cause, but actually be a segment of a population with motivations of their own?

@bigtravis1968 7 жыл бұрын

yes,consider all the variations of human life on earth,then consider who created the vast majority of technology we enjoy today

@erichsalvesen 7 жыл бұрын

Wayne R White male Capitalists. What's your point.

@bigtravis1968 7 жыл бұрын

Erich Salvesen couldn't have said it better That's my point Thanks for sharing

@erichsalvesen 7 жыл бұрын

What the fuck are you going on about.

@bigtravis1968 7 жыл бұрын

Erich Salvesen you asked I answered not "going on" at all