People Say the Mazda RX-8 is a Nightmare to AVOID At All Costs...Here's Why You Should Reconsider!

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8 ай бұрын

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@dougcook5167
@dougcook5167 8 ай бұрын
As an eight-year daily driver RX-8 owner, I can tell you these cars can be very reliable if you know and follow the special maintenance needs of this engine: replace the wimpy factory coils with Black Halo or D585-based ignition coils, redline the engine every day, pre-mix with Idemitsu 250:1 at each fill up, change the oil every 3-5000 miles, only use the Mazda high-pressure oil filter, use CataClean every 1-2 years to clear the cat, and replace the spark plugs and wires with factory ones every 30,000 miles. The most important way to get a reliable RX-8, though, is to only buy a Series 2 (2009-2011) model. This second series fixed almost all the problems (except the coils) with the Series 1 cars. With my 2010 and against most recommendations, I also use regular 87 octane gas and fully synthetic oil. The only problem I've had is a bad O2 sensor.
@beachplease808
@beachplease808 8 ай бұрын
You're getting a bad 02 sensor because you're using 87 octane gas.
@AP-wu1rv
@AP-wu1rv 7 ай бұрын
I’ve always wanted a RX8 since I was kid playing need for speed but a lot of people tell me it’s unreliable or you need a lot of money to keep it reliable so I never got one
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
*Wankel engines are inherently unreliable and their is nothing that can be done to make them reliable.*
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
You have to be monumentally ignorant to pour the wrong oil into the wrong filler hole son. If you cannot read your owners manual or the label on a bottle of motor oil? C ou have no business under the hood of behind the wheel.
@lexx9443
@lexx9443 7 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230there is a very big difference between 4 stroke engine oil and 2 stroke oil which is meant to be burned. 250:1 is around 280mL on a full tank of gas, less than a pop can amount. It’s just added to help lubricate the apex seals which helps prevent premature wear.
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 8 ай бұрын
"unlike the Miata, you can bring two more friends with you" bold of you to assume I have friends
@Zzz76532
@Zzz76532 4 ай бұрын
lol 🎉
@alphawolffe4175
@alphawolffe4175 3 ай бұрын
This upcoming week I’m about to go take a look at a 2011 rx8 and I’m a little excited, I’m also taking a mechanic with me so that he can check if everything is good. That rx8 might be my first ever car if it’s in good condition. I’m confident that I will be able to maintain it like pre mixing and warming it up and a few other things. Hopefully all goes well.
@CharlieWinterTV
@CharlieWinterTV 22 күн бұрын
Actually your friends gotta be a small-sized dogs or cats to fit in there.
@floydcooley1
@floydcooley1 8 ай бұрын
I bought a 2005 Shinka RX8 new. Kept it for 6 years. THE MOST balanced car I've ever owned before or since. Never any reliability issues and revving that was a blast. Also in 2005 I had the same HP Numbers you stated. They were that high on the manual, however the automatic version really had mediocre HP. Loved that car and my main reason for moving on was fuel mileage. It was the former peak of fuel prices and I was getting 17mpg. My 2016 Camaro SS got much better mileage and got 0-60 4 second times compared to about 6-6.5 in the Mazda.
@solracpeanut78
@solracpeanut78 8 ай бұрын
In order to own a rx8 you have to be aware it uses oil as part of the combustion process and hi grade fuel must be used as a former Mazda tech we had customers who got 150k plus if they were vigilant about taking care of the cars need
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 8 ай бұрын
One hundred and fifty thousand miles from the engine of a modern vehicle is pathetic. Even the most basic econobox that is casually maintained will easily exceed that.
@b.t.2795
@b.t.2795 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like the rotary shares some similarities with the two stroke engines.
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 8 ай бұрын
​@@b.t.2795It's a Dorito stroke engine.
@TheRealCatof
@TheRealCatof 8 ай бұрын
I mean, 150k miles isn't that much. My dad still has his original 96 Supra and it has over 430k miles without needing any major repairs, and he didn't need to jump through any hoops to fuel it.
@aaronbritt2025
@aaronbritt2025 8 ай бұрын
@@williamegler8771 What's the rev limit on most econoboxes? Not 9k. How hard do they get driven on a daily basis?
@garattyfisher
@garattyfisher 8 ай бұрын
I owned one. It was a 2004 and it was so much fun. Burned those rear tires off them so many times. Rev to 8500 rpm and dropped the clutch, so many burnouts. Hit a top speed of 142 mph one time, was a rush. I didnt have reliability issues with it, but switched to a better mpg vehicle. I left those cars in my youth.
@lapoose325
@lapoose325 7 ай бұрын
your wife made you get a kia?
@abstract1dea
@abstract1dea 5 ай бұрын
KIA stands for "Know It All"@@lapoose325
@huiba1
@huiba1 25 күн бұрын
I have the complete opposite of this, I drive a great mpg car now because I'm young and don't have a lot of money. But man, as soon as I get a job I am gonna buy an RX8 and drive it until it dies.
@jimkrom
@jimkrom 2 ай бұрын
The rx8 is actually very reliable for what it is. It is a rotary engine that if treated properly (most importantly you don't postpone service) will last you at least 100k miles, which, for a rotary, is quite reliable. The rotary life span is about as much, maybe a little more, and it will get you there no issues (again with proper treatment).
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 ай бұрын
*Stop spreading false information, everyone knows that Wankel engines are inherently unreliable and their is absolutely nothing that can be done to make them last longer. These engines lasted on average only 50-60k miles before the compression drops, that's appallingly bad compared to reciprocating engines that when properly cared for can easily last over 250,000 miles.* *Wankel engines offer no advantages which is why they were a failure.*
@brianciulla2334
@brianciulla2334 7 ай бұрын
I had a 2004 Rx-8 with the 6 speed manual. I put about 70k miles on it in the 6 years I had it. It was a great car and never let me down as long as I kept up on the maintenance. The only reason I sold it is because I didn’t really have the time for it anymore but I do regret getting rid of it. It truly was one of the best vehicles I ever owned.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
Needed a new engine at 70k miles... you were lucky you sold it before stopped running
@soto575
@soto575 4 ай бұрын
​ Some say with a good maintenance it can last around 100K
@Nd4SpdSe
@Nd4SpdSe 8 ай бұрын
I've had my 2004 since 2010. It's been a great car. She's my summer-only car, and falls into the rust-years, so would of rotted away long ago. It's a great car, for the right person. If you're complaining about power/torque, then it's not the car for you.
@IronicTonic8
@IronicTonic8 8 ай бұрын
I think most people should avoid it. I love the RX8 and ive owned 3 of them. My ownership experience has been fantastic, I've only had a few minor issues over the last 13 years of ownership. However, I am a rotary nut and I'm well versed on how to keep these cars running. I don't think the average personal will be knowledgeable enough, or willing to put in the extra effort required to keep these cars running and in good shape. Thats ok if you aren't that kinda guy. Not everyone should drive a rotary. You've got to be passionate about it, and be able to sift through all the bs on the internet to figure out how to properly care for these cars.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
You only need to know how to read your owners manual... and the label on a bottle of motor. It's shocking the stupidity of the fools that pour the wrong oil into the wrong filler hole
@ezpz4659
@ezpz4659 8 ай бұрын
I own a Lightning Yellow RX8. This was a GREAT deep dive. I also has a 600hp 600tq CLS55 AMG with a m113k engine that can hit 200mph. They are totally different cars and I am so blessed to have both. RX8 is way more fun to drive. CLS55 AMG is almost scary fast. Too fast for the street. On my youtube I have a video of me with the CLS55 AMG on track
@kjburns75
@kjburns75 8 ай бұрын
I had an '08 GT and it was my favorite car. Like Tim, I replaced the stock coils with BHR coils. Other than oil changes, that was the only work I needed to do to the car in three years. That sound at 9k is intoxicating.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
Horribly unreliable pile of junk.. Fugly as a cheap plastic garden shed too.
@jmrodri69
@jmrodri69 8 ай бұрын
Great video. My son owns an RX-8 and he loves it. I love driving the RX-8.
@paulosicne8498
@paulosicne8498 4 ай бұрын
Just a couple of weeks ago, there was a very clean yellow manual RX-8 with ONLY 23K miles, that auctioned on BAT for only $9,800. That was insane! Everyone was posting comments: "Steal of the year". That lucky winning bidder really did luck out. That is an insanely low price for the great condition that RX-8 is in.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 3 ай бұрын
They sell for scrap metal prices here...
@aaronbritt2025
@aaronbritt2025 8 ай бұрын
@6:20... That's not where the front seat was when you were driving. Put the front seat in a position for anyone over 5' 9" and the back seat passengers better be double amputees and there's zero leg room. @10:30... You can use a Sohn adapter or you can do like we do in the race cars and run premix in your gas, just like a 2-stroke engine. We eliminate the oil injection completely. This allows us to control the oil ratio.
@jamesruiz4005
@jamesruiz4005 8 ай бұрын
I owned one, for two years. Love the looks, the sound of the engine . I used to keep a quart of oil and 2 cycle engine oil in the trunk . The engine was definitely not fuel efficient and you was not going to win any drag races it it was unique . An actual running and driving rx8 in 2022
@Robert-cu9bm
@Robert-cu9bm 8 ай бұрын
They have a strap in the boot for holding the oil
@krashnpa
@krashnpa 8 ай бұрын
I remember the rat's nest on the RX7 Wankel was a nightmare, too, but like anything else considered performance, you just have to take care of it.
@AxnerSaab
@AxnerSaab 6 ай бұрын
From what I've heard before, these cars aren't cars that should be babied. They should be driven rough and needs high rpms to run well
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
You hear alot of excuses why these engines fail so often, none of them are true. Wankel engines are inherently unreliable by design, there is absolutely nothing you can do to make them more reliable.
@Tibi76
@Tibi76 5 ай бұрын
I had a first generation RX7 car in 1998. It was my first car. I loved it. 242620km (151353 miles) on the engine and no problems. I bought an RX8 last summer. Nordic green color, brown-black leather interior. Its engine is "only" 193 horsepower, but that's more than enough for me. The car has not been modified, everything is factory. I don't even plan to change anything on it. It is beautiful and good as it is. The car is resting for the winter, so I'm really looking forward to spring. :)
@eatassonthefirstdate
@eatassonthefirstdate 3 ай бұрын
That's not a first gen rx7 bro😅
@rumbling3991
@rumbling3991 3 ай бұрын
@@eatassonthefirstdate he said he had the first gen rx7 , didnt say he bought new in "98
@toska459
@toska459 5 ай бұрын
Bought an 06 for $6K. First week the SSV went out, over time spent $6K in repaired and general maintenance. Got 12K miles out of it and blew the engine on thanksgiving day. Fun car to drive but I will never own one again, was a headache to deal with.
@mikemoeser8411
@mikemoeser8411 5 ай бұрын
Have a 2004 rx8 that i bought in 2009. Other than a power steering, oil cooler lines, ssv, ignition coils. i really haven't had much wrong with it. I still keep her and still makes me smile when i walk up to her
@saiyanwei4840
@saiyanwei4840 7 ай бұрын
107K miles, original owner, 2007 RX-8, i daily drove it for a few years but now its my garage queen, if check and change oil every 3k and drive the car normally, you wont have any issues
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
Your either the luckiest person or a big fat liar
@OldThomMerton
@OldThomMerton 8 ай бұрын
Mazda & Ignition Coils . . . do not get me started. Went through two sets quick before my mechanic recommended a performance set and, Viola, never touched them again over the next 80k miles. Rotary engines do require a different mindset.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
What do you expect? You bought Mazda, not a Toyota or a Porsche... Yes, you have a mindset of a naive fool and a glutton for punishment
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
FYI: it's a Wankel engine, Mazda never made a Rotary engine
@OldThomMerton
@OldThomMerton 6 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 It's "a type of internal combustion engine using an eccentric rotary design to convert pressure into rotating motion". It uses a rotor.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
@@OldThomMerton Which Wankel engine are you referring to? The DKM54 doesn't have an eccentric-crankshaft And the KKM57 doesn't have a Rotor.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
@@OldThomMerton *Which Wankel engine are you talking about???*
@slipstreamautosport
@slipstreamautosport 3 ай бұрын
Drove one for the first last week on track and it was an awesome experience
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 3 ай бұрын
You should try driving a real track car now...
@slipstreamautosport
@slipstreamautosport 3 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 it was a real track car 🤣
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 3 ай бұрын
@@slipstreamautosport The Mazda RX8 is an entry-level sedan... not a performance car
@rallyeo75
@rallyeo75 8 ай бұрын
I own a 2009 (S2) and it burns hardly any oil. When I first got I did all of the stuff they say to do like checking the oil every couple fill ups, not shutting the car off unless it ran for at least 5 minutes for fear of it flooding, holding it a 3k rpms before shutting it off, etc. After a few months of that I decided to try not doing those things and it has been fine for the last 2 years. I still get it up to 9k rpms at least once every time I take it out to keep it cleaned out but that’s about it. Just get a series 2 and you’ll be fine. It’s one of the most fun cars I’ve ever owned even if it could use more power.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
Ticking timebomb, your luck will run out soon.
@mincvinyl
@mincvinyl 6 ай бұрын
Flooding is only an issue if there is something else wrong with the car. The S2 only gives you additional oil injectors to prevent housing wear, but isn't worth much since other parts of the housing wear sooner.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
@@mincvinyl *That's completely false and misinformed.* *Flooding and carbon build-up is a common symptom of low compression in all types of 4-stroke and 2-stroke engines and is very common with Wankel engines when the apex seals are damaged or worn out.*
@obsceneremer7521
@obsceneremer7521 8 ай бұрын
The Rx8 was my first car at 18 years old. I absolutely loved it. Yes, It did give me a hard time but then again I was the 4th owner after all lol I don’t regret buying it , I actually want to get one again. This time I’ll take care of it and keep up with maintenance like one should 👌🏽
@markcoopers1930
@markcoopers1930 8 ай бұрын
That sound is so good. And the fact that the engine has to be wrung out to keep it running properly is a recipe for fun. And regular maintenance shouldn't be any issue for the classic gearheads watching. The only issue should be vetting the previous owner's maintenance.
@carllovullo6602
@carllovullo6602 8 ай бұрын
Lets just say thats its not for regular people, its for car enthusiasts and need meticulous maintenance
@bldontmatter5319
@bldontmatter5319 8 ай бұрын
A real car enthusiast won't buy crap
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
A real car enthusiasts wouldn't buy this pathetic pile of junk.
@DuaneCaldwell
@DuaneCaldwell 8 ай бұрын
I always liked those RX-7s and the RX-8. I never owned one, so I can't really comment on the reliability reputation. However, I can see that being a result of owners who don't RTFM or pay attention to maintenance intervals.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
It has nothing to do with maintenance or use. Wankel engines are inherently unreliable and less durable than reciprocating engines, this is a irrefutable fact that many fans reuse to accept at their own peril. Some fan go to extreme lengths to concoct elaborate and proposturous rituals, excuses and theories. Wankel engines have several fatal flaws in its fundamental design that make them too unreliable for passenger aircraft applications
@PlaAwa
@PlaAwa 8 ай бұрын
most key fobs have the retractable key in them so that you can open the car with flat batteries (under the hood or in the fob).
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 Ай бұрын
Never had the rx8 but had many early gen rx7's with the 12a motor and the 1985 gsl SE with the 13b as well as the 87 turbo...the only issues I had that were chronic were the trailing plugs would always foul, not fire properly and as a result, the engine torque would suffer. The biggest issue I had was the dreaded apex seal failure which occured in the 87 turbo... I cannot blame the car because I had modified that one with a variable boost, turning it up and up to see what AI could get out of it...At one point,you go to start the engine and it just free spins with no compression...I ended up replacing the the motor with a factory new block..broke it in carefully and keep the boost moderate. it was an absolute beast! sadly, the throttle linkage stuck wide open in it one day and it fishtailed into a curb and rolled over twice..had to sell it as scrap after that,though the motor was mint...2 things I had learnt over time with rotaries were they benefit from a gentle slow warmup, one of the keys to long life span and second, that while they love to rev dont try going Beyond their redline! up to it and often is Fine but pushing thru it is playing russian roulette with the seals.
@gsitzkowitz
@gsitzkowitz 8 ай бұрын
I had one of the early RX-7s. Great car but as it got older the lack of build quality started showing up. Switches coming lose, electrical gremlins, etc. But I’d love to have a RX-8! Way more practical!
@7sins979
@7sins979 5 ай бұрын
Renesis engine are junk. Every one we pull apart is just destroyed inside. We suspect it yo be the side port exhaust not rejecting heat fast enough. The rotors and eshaft are great thought. Have yhe rotors machined for rx7 apex seals and run them in rx7 engines for a good and inexpensive high conpression build.
@WorkinonmyB-again
@WorkinonmyB-again 8 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but i thought that body style was fugly. Loved the first gen, second gen was good, 3rd was real nice as well.
@shabiz266
@shabiz266 2 ай бұрын
my 2006 192 5 speed manual is chilling in garage all winter and comes out for a blast every summer since 2014
@jimmyvargas9282
@jimmyvargas9282 6 ай бұрын
Rx8 are reliable cars, like the man said you must keep up with maintenance. Own Rx8 2009 n love it. Yes it consumes alot fuel, but who cares.
@heroesofthelandstrasse
@heroesofthelandstrasse 8 ай бұрын
A nightmare is also a dream. Btw I have mine since 19 years.
@PartiBuoy
@PartiBuoy 7 ай бұрын
It's not like some BMW unreliability. It's expected to lose compression it has it's build expiration. And that is better than any euro trash. You could lift that motor out yourself without a hoist I bet.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
Wankel engines are inherently unreliable.. This is a irrefutable fact that cannot be disputed.
@KIng_Kenny_707
@KIng_Kenny_707 8 ай бұрын
me and my mate have spotted 2 of these with race/advertising liveries sat outside an old hangar and after a chat with the fella who owns the hangar we found out they'd been sat for over 3 years and still owned by mazda so come monday we are going to try call mazda and see if we can take it off them somehow, if anything we'd be saving them money as they still pay to keep it in that field for 3 years lol
@rjkStudios
@rjkStudios 8 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video! My only complaint with the RX8 is the aesthetic design. It's just not my cup of tea. FC & FD RX7's demonstrate the style I like from a car like that. Not buying a sports car for practicality or back seats, but I understand and respect people who appreciate and want what the RX8 brings to the table.
@danielmarquez8568
@danielmarquez8568 7 ай бұрын
I was driving in the canyons last Sunday in my RX8 and a heavily modded Turbo 2JZ swapped Lexus IS with more than twice the HP of my RX8 tried chasing me...haha he couldn't keep up and was pissed 😂
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
He needs to learn how to drive ..
@eatassonthefirstdate
@eatassonthefirstdate 3 ай бұрын
umm, ur either lying or that dude can't drive at all
@nigeljoycey5644
@nigeljoycey5644 5 ай бұрын
I had one and besides it really hating traffic, the best fr car I've owned. I'm in a gen 2 brz now and love it but that rotary is so fun to ring out. If you live in a city with traffic it will die tho.
@mincvinyl
@mincvinyl 6 ай бұрын
I own 3 rx8s for the past 10 years. Buying used rx8s gets you a lot of sports car for a stupid low cost. However without research and knowledge you can be jumping on a landmine. For success I suggest finding a sale where the owner has a known low compression running car. Use the barely running engine to check the other systems in the car and look to spend $1-2k. Then get a reman engine, do not try to build the engine yourself. The Rx8 engine seal tolerances are not as simple as older rotaries, lots of people mess it up the first time. +Upgrade Coils to an LS coil kit ~$250 +Get rid of the CAT with a midpipe +Upgrade the starter ~$80 That's pretty much all you need for a reliable Rx8. Otherwise you SHOULD rebuild around 80k miles to avoid exponential wear/damage. If not you WILL need a new engine around 120k miles. If you learn how to rebuild the engine yourself you COULD save quite a bit of money assuming you don't mess it up. Modding wise, there is not much you can do for power other than the decat, other than turboing to 300-350hp range. Mazda's intake is the best intake....the AEM cold air is nearly equivalent power wise, but it does make it easier to work on the car.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
*The Mazda RX8 is a sedan, not a sports car.* *It's without any doubt the worst sedan Mazda has ever sold and was a 3 billion dollar marketing failure that completely bankrupted Mazda.* *It is a car that smart buyers should avoid like the plagued.* *Do not waste your time or money trying to make these horribly unreliable engines last longer.* *The only successful performance car made by Mazda is the entry-level MX5 which is the only real option for someone who cannot afford to buy a real high performance car.*
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 8 ай бұрын
Wonder why nobody, especially from Mazda hadn't thought of slapping a pancake IMA motor hybrid system from Honda to a Rotary engine. Low speed and high stress lugging in every day driving are the main reasons for Rotaries being too thirsty and Apex seals dying.
@philipparana9225
@philipparana9225 8 ай бұрын
They are horribly inefficient
@DartzIRL
@DartzIRL Ай бұрын
I've driven one for ten years. The only time it ever failed to start was when the battery died. In a decade of ownership: -The catalytic converter chernobyled. Got it bashed out. -The ignition died. Replaced the coils with D585's -The rear shocks exploded on a trackday. Replaced with Tein coilovers -The front brakes seized on. At speed. Surprise left turn. But it survived -A sparkplug broke and fell in the engine. It still ran after that - even with shredded housings. Swapped a running engine into it. -The exhaust exploded due to rust and backfiring. Replaced with a HKS system. It sounds like Zeus has been fed a diet on Guinness, Beans and Brussel Sprouts -The expansion cap failed and it dumped 4 litres of coolant in one drive - which nearly killed it. But it survived. -It's got more patches on it than a tramp's cacks, due to a Titanic level of rust. -I sent it to Rebuild 2 months ago, because I had the cash and wanted to do it while I had the cash --- it was perfect inside. Now it's factory fresh. But it runs. It drives. And it's been the most reliable car I've ever owned. --- In my experience- a lot of people who own them, tend to love them. People who hate them - really hate them.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 18 күн бұрын
Wow, you must have owned some really horrible piles of junk before the RX8...
@RemiLynn4264
@RemiLynn4264 3 күн бұрын
OMG, So envious you got to drive one! I would absolutely love to have a car just like that!
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni 8 ай бұрын
I'm not sure earlier RX-8s had much less power, but i know for a fact that these were offered with an automatic transmission, and those had much less power and torque. That explains why those examples are very rare.
@aaronbritt2025
@aaronbritt2025 8 ай бұрын
Yep. The auto cars had a 4 port engine, the manuals had 6 ports.
@Reubachi
@Reubachi 8 ай бұрын
They did have less power, to the tune of 50 WHP less due to less porting on rotors. those examples despite being automatic will take FI "much" better. thugh Though, no one would spend 20k turboing 10k early 2000s mazda sports car.
@heroesofthelandstrasse
@heroesofthelandstrasse 8 ай бұрын
​@@aaronbritt2025they had die 4 port 4 Gear automatics in the beginning and later 6 speed with 6 ports detuned to 210 HP by lowering the max rpm for the gearbox.
@DaysOfFunder
@DaysOfFunder 7 ай бұрын
Just bought one. Omg, one if the funnest cars to drive ever. Ive owned turbo rx7s skylines, legacies, lancers, celicas v6 cars etc etc, all of them were so much faster in a straight line, but nothing is fadter through the turns. The rx8 is a beast to drive through turns, even as stock. You just need to keep in the power band. 5-7k and you are rocking. Theres nothign down low, but if you are down low you aint using your gears right!
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
No power... need a new engine
@bryangorak3879
@bryangorak3879 7 ай бұрын
Wait till you ditch the cat & exhaust, LS coils, Versa Tune, aftermarket fuel pump & cat back. Video car is slow cause mine puts ya back in your seat.....ZING ZING...POP POP POP!
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
@@bryangorak3879 wait til you dich the Mazda for a real performance car... the RX8 is a sedan designed for women.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
@@bryangorak3879 *The RX8 is not designed for racing... unless you are talking about "Drag Racing" (LGBTQ+RX)*
@bryangorak3879
@bryangorak3879 7 ай бұрын
@DaysOfFunder Ignore the troll & if you get an ebay cat delete & exhaust for well under 200 bucks, K&N intake, LS coil packs, hi-flow fuel pump & Versa tune uploaded to your laptop w/OBDii connector it'll have more low end. It's the most inexpensive build out there! Probably 12-1500 bucks & DIY. There's good shops in Missouri & Ohio that builds rotorys for 5-7g w-core swap. You can drop 10g into an LS in a heartbeat. Just make sure you use 2 capfuls of chainsaw oil every fill up!
@ryanb8466
@ryanb8466 8 ай бұрын
I had a new one back in 2008. I loved the car. The only problem I had was gaining horsepower was a brick wall. And it was too slow from the factory. But the thrill of driving it down back roads and drifting around I wasn't able to duplicate until I got a new Camaro. My new Camaro is the only car I've ever driven that has a better chassis.
@mrodri1012
@mrodri1012 8 ай бұрын
How does it handle compared to the 8? Chassis I’ve heard is more rigid like you said but is the extra weight super noticeable? Kinda curious since that may be my next target for a car after my RX8 haha, been wanting to get into the ol American V8’s at some point
@MandusahRamirez
@MandusahRamirez 8 ай бұрын
@@mrodri1012You definitely feel the weight but, the width, extra torque, wide tire’s & steering on the Camaro makes it feel more solid and glued to the road. IMO The RX-8 feels more toss able and easier to rotate In corners tho.
@cottonhiker
@cottonhiker 8 ай бұрын
That sound was AMAZING with headphones!!! 😳🙏🔥
@bandwagon240
@bandwagon240 5 ай бұрын
The best part about a RX8 is that is shares a chassis with a NC Miata and you can throw that Renesis in the garbage where it belongs. Of course a video like this will bring out the rotary version of Land Rover people...those who are the 1% who have by some miracle defied all odds and managed to have one that has had zero issues over the course of 500k miles. If you're not one of these select few or a compulsive liar, ignore this video. It's a wonderful chassis with a junk motor. If you do love this chassis, obtain a NC Miata. Sincerely, An actual Mazda guy
@lffit
@lffit 8 ай бұрын
We bought our son a secondhand one in France, it used a lot of oil and the agents said we had to use only their expensive brand which was made by investigation by Total. The stereo system played up and we were told it would have to go to Belgium at a huge price to be repaired it was the 231hp version, but heavy on petrol, and we had problem with cooling system and sensor. It was super light in the rear end, one evening he had to ditch it overnight in light snow and hitch a ride home by a local woman in her little Renault . It was nice to drive and quite powerful, and would have liked to keep it, but we had to sell as the clutch was about to go, as Mazda's quote was mind boggling.
@simbanugz2906
@simbanugz2906 8 ай бұрын
My brother bought one new back in 2008. He did every mod imaginal. 182 whp. In a strait line he was a little slower the a stock rsx typed s. Handled great but horrible whp, He went through 2 engines in the 160,000 miles he had it. Even new it would consume 1 quart of oil every 1000-1500 miles.
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 8 ай бұрын
My 98 Sentra consumes that much oil ...now....
@aaronbritt2025
@aaronbritt2025 8 ай бұрын
They're supposed to consume oil. The engine actually has oil injectors. Perhaps he should have read the owner's manual.
@bldontmatter5319
@bldontmatter5319 8 ай бұрын
​@@aaronbritt2025sounds like junk to me. Glad these things are gone.
@aaronbritt2025
@aaronbritt2025 8 ай бұрын
@@bldontmatter5319 I'm sure they're glad they never met you either.
@tomdoe4962
@tomdoe4962 8 ай бұрын
Yeah the 1000-1500 was what most reported on the mazda forums when I was looking at one of these in 2006. In fact no one reported going 3K miles without adding a quart . I would have been okay with that not like I care about the earth but there were a bunch of posts about engines failing and even one where some guy said Mazda was trying to deny him an engine under warranty because somehow they found out he had driven the car on a track. I do have to admit the car was fun to drive.
@philipparana9225
@philipparana9225 8 ай бұрын
Whats not to love, burns oil, gets horrible mileage and lasts maybe 89k.
@TheRealCatof
@TheRealCatof 8 ай бұрын
These are cool, but there's a reason why you don't see them anymore.
@markflint2629
@markflint2629 8 ай бұрын
Owned mine aince 2003 never selling it
@Cupat1
@Cupat1 5 ай бұрын
Might be a "good buy" in the states where fuel's about a 3rd the price of the UK
@andrewlee88
@andrewlee88 7 ай бұрын
The main 'thing' about this chassis is how it handles. The engine is compact, light and so close to the firewall its an ideal platform for the twisties. Fast in a straight line isnt memorable, but how this can boogie thru a series of apexs, is.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
A mediocre sedan at best, definitely not a sports car.
@salihahzem
@salihahzem 6 ай бұрын
I drove a 2004 one, even with the crppy old tires, the handling thru the bends was better than my S2000.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
@@salihahzem Your S2000 must be a worn out, beat down, pile of junk
@salihahzem
@salihahzem 6 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 It was 12k miles, the most pristine one you can imagine; drove it for 2 years and sold it after.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 5 ай бұрын
Why isn't swapping the RX-8 into the smaller, lighter NC MX-5 more common? I understand that the swap is fairly straight forward since both cars are the same basic architecture underneath.
@Agh0sty
@Agh0sty 7 ай бұрын
My dream car😍
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
It's a Nightmare car.
@user-ll1jy1vq1v
@user-ll1jy1vq1v 8 ай бұрын
Brent Hinds!?!?! Dude I love ur band mastodon
@LeonelCortes
@LeonelCortes 8 ай бұрын
Do an mr2 turbo
@skupire6547
@skupire6547 25 күн бұрын
i loved my RX-8 for all 4 years i owned one, man i still dream about that fkn thing no lie
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 18 күн бұрын
It's the worst sedan Mazda ever made
@skupire6547
@skupire6547 18 күн бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 your the worst sedan your mother ever made
@tomdoe4962
@tomdoe4962 8 ай бұрын
I was thinking of buying one of these in 2006 and I always hop onto forums to see what's up with a car before I buy it and yeah I was scared away with many posts of people losing engines at very low miles and most posters saying they did have to add a quart between 3K mile oil changes. Ended up buying a 2006 G35 coupe and that car between 7.5K oil changes didn't even use a quarter of a quart in fact it was hard to even see that it went down at all.
@vg4472
@vg4472 5 ай бұрын
I would love to see this car next to a 2005 Mazda 6 Sport Hatchback
@timakimat
@timakimat 8 ай бұрын
I have two of them and they are fun to drive. The reliability depends on how they have been treated. Please check the rust before buying: The trunk area under the rear bumper and the rear wheel wells are known to have issues.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
They are all unreliable.. Absolutely a car to avoid
@llavero5
@llavero5 2 ай бұрын
11:14 The car has the same 50% weight distribution with mid front engine or ultra front engine, in both cases all weight is in front axle. Why a lot people cant understand it?. The good thing about mid engine is the lower polar moment inertia, not weight distribution. On the other hand, they do not recommend reinforcing leaks due to excess pressure in the coolant tank because they can break elsewhere. I had never seen that type of SOHN but they do not recommend using two-stroke oil in it, because that oil also mixes with the crankcase oil.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 ай бұрын
*It's shares the same chassis as the Miata... but the Miata handles so much better. The RX8 is Sedan, not a sports car.*
@llavero5
@llavero5 Ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 I don't understand your comment, I said nothing about the MX5. But since you mention that it is sporty and the RX8 is not because it is a sedan (nor is it more of a coupe), you are very wrong. The RX8 is much sportier than an MX5, and I'll explain the reasons: 1. The torsional rigidity of the MX5 NC is 10,000 nm/grade while the RX8 is 30,000 nm/grade, one of the best compared to any car. Roadsters are usually very poor in this aspect due to the lack of a roof, which is key for the suspension to work well and the wheels to support correctly. 2. Height of the center of gravity, the MX5 NC is 47.5cm high, while the RX8 is 45.8cm, thanks largely to its smaller and lower engine. 3. The RX8 has a much longer wheelbase, which allows for less weight transfer between the axles, which in turn allows for better braking and benefits cornering, since the more the weight is distributed between the 4 tires, the more they grip. 4. The RX8 has shorter overhangs. The weight on the overhangs generates more resistance to turning the car, more understeer and oversteer. 5. The engine offers less vibration, greater smoothness and faster response than a piston engine, in addition to being more powerful and going up to about 9500 rpm. Sorry, but the RX8 is not only a sportcar (even if you say no), these data say that it is also a very good one, and much better than the MX5.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Ай бұрын
@llavero5 *I see there are alot of things you don't understand...* *Like why the MX5 is the most popular track car in the world and why it's the best Mazda sports car? Or why it's the best selling 2-seat convertible sports car in history!* *Please tell why the RX8 was a 3 billion dollar failure? and the reason why Mazda discontinued the entire RX brand?*
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Ай бұрын
*There shouldn't be any excess pressure in the cooling system if the engine is not damaged already.* *2-stroke oil should never be used... Mazda only recommends API SL rating or better.*
@llavero5
@llavero5 Ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 I don't talk about feelings, emotions, preferences or opinions, I talk about facts with data and numbers. The MX5 is fine for hairdressers and divorcees, people who prefer the wind in their face at the expense of the torsional rigidity of the chassis, nothing bad if you are one of them, plus the RX8 is delicate/dedicated and more expensive to maintain. But in terms of sportsmanship, my previous comment is indisputable. Discontinued RX brand? rotor engines are bad for emissions, plus sport cars dont make much money as mass people car.
@karenmurray3098
@karenmurray3098 4 ай бұрын
i have always wanted to drive a rotary powered car but i have been scaired off by the " rotarys are unreliable" thing
@JaffuhBoi
@JaffuhBoi 6 ай бұрын
I have the same exact car year and model trim .
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
My condolances
@remissiveslave
@remissiveslave 7 ай бұрын
Rx8 was one of my favorite nfs cars back in the day
@aaronbritt2025
@aaronbritt2025 8 ай бұрын
IMO, Their lack of torque makes them not so great street cars. That being said, I've built two into SCCA championship winning race cars for Steve Zink. We also built one for his daughter, Nikki. He's actually set a few lap records for the class faster than what he's actually in. Their high revving nature makes them great track cars. They can hold a gear longer which means you don't have to upshift mid-corner, helping with stability. I wouldn't mind owning an R3 version.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
They are absolutely the last thing you want for a track car.. a Mazda sedan is no performance machine...
@aaronbritt2025
@aaronbritt2025 6 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 RX8 is not a sedan.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
@@aaronbritt2025 The Mazda RX8 is not a sports car. The RX8 by all definitions is a Sedan... a sedan poorly disguised as a sports car.
@aaronbritt2025
@aaronbritt2025 6 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 By what definition? It's either a coupe or a 2+2.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
@@aaronbritt2025 A sports car is a TWO DOOR, TWO SEAT automobile. The Mazda RX8 is by all definitions a SEDAN. An automobile with 4 doors and 4 seats. Mazda can't fool me and they didn't fool most enthusiasts either who took a hard PASS on the RX8... it's dismal sales reflected this failed attempt at decieving the public.
@dha588
@dha588 7 ай бұрын
What do you guys think about an automatic version? 😅
@bdolla5118
@bdolla5118 7 ай бұрын
wouldnt run that intake garbage you need a aem filter and resuse oem air baffle next to the trottle body oem intake is best but aem works well with oem air baffle and hose inlets import they are 90 degree
@OGcottoncandyrandy
@OGcottoncandyrandy 8 ай бұрын
They’re great, once you LS or K swap them.
@reaper10142
@reaper10142 2 ай бұрын
What year is his rx-8
@choppingpixels
@choppingpixels 8 ай бұрын
Tim is the man! Rotary enthusiasts are next level helpful and knowledgeable.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
Wow, that's the most gullible and niave comment ever posted on KZfaq
@foellerd
@foellerd 8 ай бұрын
What a wonderful sound! Thank you for that. Apex seals sketch me out.
@mincvinyl
@mincvinyl 6 ай бұрын
The apex seals have not been an issue since the 70s. The stories of people blowing their seals tend to come from people who don't know what they are doing tuning wise, but still decide to tinker.
@foellerd
@foellerd 6 ай бұрын
@@mincvinyl Can I trust RX8 apex seals to last as long as piston rings in a reliable non rotor engine? Just seems like 1 more thing to worry about.
@mincvinyl
@mincvinyl 6 ай бұрын
​@@foellerd Like I said in my comment below. A rotary should be refreshed every 80k miles, but most people go to 120k miles (rebuild every 10 or so years assuming avg 12kmiles/year). Most factory built rx8 engines would hit around 120-130k and then get a coolant seal leak. Any dying younger is either a lemon or someone not doing basic oil changes. If you are trying to compare the lifespan of a purpose designed sports engine vs a daily consumer designed toyota corolla engine, I would say that comparison doesn't make sense. The best comparison is probably to the BRZ/86, which is the piston alternative to the Rx8. 15-20 years newer design and you could get 150k-200k miles on a brz before a refresh. The Rx8 does pull on the brz in a straight and has a better suspension though. Being newer the BRZ/86 will have a considerable aftermarket community. If you are looking at cars you should really lay out what models you may want and then what you need from your car. If you are looking to simply get groceries for 500k miles without changing your oil, these types of cars are not designed for that.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
@@mincvinyl *You sir are a bald faced liar.* *No one has ever solved the reliability problems with apex seals.*
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
@@foellerd *The apex seal will never last as long or be as reliable as a piston ring, this is an irrefutable fact that cannot be disputed with credibility.*
@aimbot0x01
@aimbot0x01 3 ай бұрын
The mods are prefect!
@glenmallory9982
@glenmallory9982 15 сағат бұрын
Ive been a Wankel fan all my life but if I had a choice between the 8 or a mid 80s RX7 I’d take the 13B 7. Much more aftermarket support for the 7s. So that tells me which ones better.
@huiba1
@huiba1 25 күн бұрын
I want an RX8, I trust the rotary engine, but I am 18 years old, and a 1 liter to 8km fuel consumption is unaffordable for me. I'd spend 6 euros just driving to school. I drive a Fiat 500C, with a 2 cylinder turbo engine, and it drives 1 liter to 25km. It's a great car but a pain to drive; it stalls so easily because of it's low-powered engine. The RX8 has been, and always will be, my dream car. One day I'll drive it. But for now I prefer a great economic car, with a cute Italian style.
@Ryan-fb1ot
@Ryan-fb1ot 22 күн бұрын
You will stall Rx8 all the time, any piston car is easier to drive.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 18 күн бұрын
Don't do it, this is a horrible pile of junk...
@theredwedge9446
@theredwedge9446 4 ай бұрын
You dont buy a rotary to go fast, you buy them to have fun. They arent trying to be competitive, just sleek and cool
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 4 ай бұрын
Nothing fun about an unreliable sedan... get a real performance car if you really want to have fun.
@BeHeaven616
@BeHeaven616 2 ай бұрын
​@@sandervanderkammen9230 stop hating on a car that you have no experience with
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 ай бұрын
@BeHeaven616 *The RX8 is the worst sedan Mazda ever made... if you think it's a good car? You know absolutely nothing about performance cars kid.*
@BeHeaven616
@BeHeaven616 2 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 the rx8 was never about performance so what exactly is your point? The ry8's weight distribution makes it a perfect car for curves, and an fd swap makes it a perfect car for time attack and general racing without ruining the 50/50 weight ratio. Its also easier to get parts for it compared to the rx7 and the rx8 has huge potential for value gain as it was the last rotary ever build
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 ай бұрын
@BeHeaven616 *True, Mazda is not a performance marque, it's the smallest, least successful of all the Japanese automakers, a company recognized in the industry for building cheap, entry-level economy cars for first-time buyers and non-enthuestists.* *Mazda's forays into Motorsports was an embarrassing failure with the company leaving racing in disgrace, they no longer have any factory racing program.*
@DBLOCK987
@DBLOCK987 8 ай бұрын
1st person to say that an RX8 is reliable if you know what to do shot out to Tim !
@coryernewein
@coryernewein 8 ай бұрын
Personally I've only seen bad to catastrophic ownership experiences, but with that said the maintenance is key. More so that slick oil injection system! That is what Mazda should have done for sure, it makes total sense, even if the oil is contaminant free metal wise the carbon from combustion is still in the oil and would slowly eat them poor little apex seals. Nice vidjéo fellas🤙
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the primary failure mode of apex seals has nothing to do with lubrication, of course if you don't check your oil no engine will last long.
@robb15033
@robb15033 4 ай бұрын
I need to expand my knowledge on new engines that burn any oil, being normal. ?.?
@Adam-nv9zo
@Adam-nv9zo 8 ай бұрын
Dorito powered.
@kcalb3180
@kcalb3180 2 ай бұрын
pre facelift front end, nice!
@PrakosoKoko
@PrakosoKoko 5 ай бұрын
When rx8 meet the good owner, thats can be perfect car to use and to have on your garage 😅
@Psyrecx
@Psyrecx 7 ай бұрын
*The only issues I've had with my S2, is just basic stuff. Nothing really bad* Burned out the original coils and the other day the cat decided to go.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
Time for a compression test
@Psyrecx
@Psyrecx 6 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Weird. It's almost as if I don't have a tester stored in the trunk...
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
@@Psyrecx Well, tell how low the compression is?
@Psyrecx
@Psyrecx 6 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 avg 110 rear, 105 front.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 6 ай бұрын
@@Psyrecx what is the RPM Index value?
@Mitch3343
@Mitch3343 Ай бұрын
That engine bay shot is a little deceiving, this man's done a few things.
@julienh4283
@julienh4283 6 ай бұрын
it also has an ethanol box for fuel cost economy🤑
@SPIDERMAN2015
@SPIDERMAN2015 6 ай бұрын
There big market for rotary engines there more into swap the motor out for Honda or Toyota motors or American motor
@kevonwalker8392
@kevonwalker8392 8 ай бұрын
Ask him if he mix his gas with 2strock oil
@ytdweller23
@ytdweller23 8 ай бұрын
Brendan 👍👍🤍🤍
@Jakeborges1991
@Jakeborges1991 8 ай бұрын
Love the rx8
@TheLifeinDenver
@TheLifeinDenver 3 ай бұрын
I have NEVER had an issue with mine. Most rx8 owners that take care of them have the same experience
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 3 ай бұрын
You are either the luckiest RX8 owner in history... or a big fat liar, my money is on the later.
@TheLifeinDenver
@TheLifeinDenver 2 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 you sound ignorant..
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 ай бұрын
@@TheLifeinDenver So it's the later...
@tyrone3261
@tyrone3261 Ай бұрын
​@@sandervanderkammen9230Clueless
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Ай бұрын
@@tyrone3261 Indeed, you have to be completely clueless to be tricked into buying a sedan poorly disguised as a sports car. Clueless Rotards...
@oldrrocr
@oldrrocr 3 ай бұрын
Funny that some people are knocking this car... but the Big 3 DESIGN their cars to self-destruct as soon as the warranty expires, usually by 60k miles.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 3 ай бұрын
There is a good reason why Mazda remains the smallest, least successful Japanese automaker..
@JAXEGCM
@JAXEGCM 8 ай бұрын
Wait…you can get a sun roof on an RX8?
@zoefaith120
@zoefaith120 8 ай бұрын
I owe you a 10 second car... you hever had your car. 9000 rpm to the moon.
@syedbilalshah8555
@syedbilalshah8555 4 ай бұрын
i think ppl will start liking RX8s more now just like when SUPRA was introduced everyone hated it now its a dream car for many
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 4 ай бұрын
The RX8 is a hidiously fugly sedan... it will never be as popular as the Supra.
@syedbilalshah8555
@syedbilalshah8555 3 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 when first supra was intruduced back in 90s it was called ugly ..supra wasnt a famous car back than also
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 3 ай бұрын
@syedbilalshah8555 Wow! You look really stupid right now kid... The Supra was introduced in 1978 and has always been Toyota's most expensive and desirable "halo car"
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 ай бұрын
@@syedbilalshah8555 *First Supra was 1978!!!*
@DoctorMazda
@DoctorMazda 8 ай бұрын
Bought mine a year ago, dropped $4892 on it and none of those expenses was the engine
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 7 ай бұрын
Could have bought a real sports car instead
@BeHeaven616
@BeHeaven616 2 ай бұрын
​@@sandervanderkammen9230kid i bet all my money you dont have a car at all, seeing you shitting all over the comments here. Get a job and a car then we can talk
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 ай бұрын
@BeHeaven616 *You don't know much do ya kid?*
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 ай бұрын
@BeHeaven616 *If you own a RX8? You don't have any money to bet kid.*
@DoctorMazda
@DoctorMazda Ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Never bet on anything because the odds are always against me
@samuelcontreras9248
@samuelcontreras9248 6 күн бұрын
Car maintenance info at the 8min mark
@jacknimble1
@jacknimble1 8 ай бұрын
Better than a base ford focus but there are so many way cooler options out there. Pass.
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