calling it accurate is a bit much.

@@IlllIlllIIllIl in comparison to how Hades is always portrayed in media (basically like the devil). This is far more accurate to mythology, Hades for the most part doesn't want anything to do with affairs outside his domain. He is never antagonistic to zeus

@@EduardoLopez-tged just like the book? not sure why they had to rewrite his character if they aren't making him any more accurate to greek mythology.

@@IlllIlllIIllIl have you read the books? (Not judgement just curious). The books explain that the gods take on characteristics from the land the inhabit (the land being the current apex of western civilization which appears to be america at the moment). Thats why in the books someone like poseiden is rocking a hawian shirt , ares looks like a biker, apollo has like..... a fancy car and so on. Hades here is a hades who has lived in america for some time.

@@EduardoLopez-tged not completely sure what relevance that has to this specific conversation. the point is that hades might be (loosely) accurate within the context of greek mythology, but he's not accurate within the context of the PJO universe, which is kinda what's important when adapting a story within that universe lmao. hades in the book was "accurate" to greek mythology just like hades in the show is, so idk why they rewrote him from how he was in the book.

Kronos swallowed him and his siblings hades remembers the nothingness inside of Kronos and never wants to go back to that.

Well Kronos ate him like a drumstick so he has bad memories of him

I suspect that even before he swallowed him, Kronos was horrifically abusive to Hades. He was like that to all his children, but his eldest son in particular would probably have been a marked target for Kronos's paranoia, fear and hate.

I guess PTSD can't go away after 4000 years. Not of being swallowed whole.

@@barracuda6900 Bro ate him as soon as he was born So there's that

yet he’s still shown as not evil here. which is very accurate to greek mythology.

I mean.. he's not exactly a good guy in th 1^ book either, as he threatens percy w/ unleashing a fkn global zombie apocalypse, n grover says he's th 1 who enjoys inventing new torture methods for sinners

​@@captainjameshook90 tbh, even in real mythology he had his bad-moods sometimes. Th guy fed pirithus to his pet n even threatened to unleash th titans out of th underworld if zeus didn't give him what he wanted

@@upgoop1021 don't see this as an excuse for his bad actions but despite all that he's way more honorable and just than his two younger brothers. especially Zeus.

@@upgoop1021Tbf basically every god is vengeful in the series. But the only ones that don’t threaten him are Poseidon Artemis Apollo and even Aphrodite. While he’s cool with Hermes there was one point Hermes threatened him (only once but still) so basically none of the gods are rlly good yknow

Like Percy Jackson Persephone or just regular mythology?

@@alexalonzo8965 both. Persephone ate part of a pomegranate while in the underworld, that's why she has to stay there for a portion of the year, and Demeter brings winter out of fury and grief.

lol spine tingle. Welcome to Ancient Greek Mythology, VERY odd how those ancient greek gods were so.... human like in their "nature".

@@AtheismF7W what are you trying to say?

It some versións it was intentionally on persephone part

The book Hades isn't portrayed as evil either, although he's bitter and got a temper and goes on a huge rant when he meets Percy and threatens him and Sally.

@@WarGrowlmon18 Well, I think anyone would be grumpy in his place: He lives in the underworld, everyone hates him for just doing his job, his mother-in-law and sister hate him, and he only sees his wife six months a year.

Hades wasn't evil in the myths.

@@kosemsasusaku6878Oh I get it, although Demeter seems to be awfully annoying anyways. But Persephone actually likes the Underworld, she told Will Solace as much while reminiscing with him about falling in love with someone from it. And Hades is generally faithful to her too: he's only known to have had a few demigod children, unlike Zeus and Poseidon who have a ton each.

they don't expect him to be evil based on Greek mythology, they expect him to be evil based on Christianity lol

Instead they him into some Good Omens reject who walked onto set......

​@@ianvera4299do you speak stupid?

Who cares ​@@ianvera4299

This is an SNL character.

They should had made him a strong and wise character not a yapper

Book Hades: “Have you seen this place?? I’ve got enough paperwork as it is I don’t want a war. I’d have to do more! Now give me my helm back or I’ll kill you.” Movie hades: “Oh sweet! You brought me the bolt, now I can take over the world!” Show Hades: “sup guys? Want some snacks? Come to give me my helm back? Come on in my only living nephew and his pet goat person!”

He always did, he did with Apollo and Hercules too. But western media twisted that and made him a Villain.

Yeah Hades had nothing to do with that. The Helm being used to steal the bolt is unique to this though: in the book they were simply both unguarded in the Throne Room during the Winter Solstice celebration, the one day of the year that poor Hades is allowed on Olympus and when Camp Half-Blood was there on a field trip. Zeus has got TERRIBLE security. No one knew about the Helm because Hades, who is a lot more bitter in the book, didn't think that anyone would care enough to offer him justice and it would make Hades too vulnerable to admit to the theft.

@@WarGrowlmon18 To be fair to the throne room’s security, nobody actually thought that someone would decide to steal the divine symbols of two of the most powerful gods in the pantheon. That’s a level of insanity that only the Mad Titan could come up with.

Kronos*

@@KyttVA Cronus is also a correct spelling of the name.

Kronos just wants Zeus just like Ouranus wants Kronos

Hades nickname is not the hospitable one. They should had made him a little bit more conservative in talking and more ominous feeling rather than a yapper.

@@GlamGoddess485 then check the PJ wiki.

@@GlamGoddess485 I can understand why you’d say that, but I like this. In my view, he was talking like that because he thought that Percy was a demigod thief that was desperate because he finally learned that he’d bit off more than he could chew when he stole the Helm of Darkness. He had Sally locked up in a golden shell that only he could remove, so he believed that he had all the cards, and was appropriately smug about it. Being smug to assholes who are now his for eternity is probably one of the perks of the job that he enjoys most.

The sanctuary was definitely genuine, if only because he wanted to deny Kronos two pieces that he was obviously wanting to use for his return.

Two of Hades' chief epithets in Ancient Hellenic literature are the receiver of many _(polydegmon),_ host of many _(polyxenios)._ Referring to more than just his ultimately gathering all humanity into his treasury, Hades (that he rules as a king in his own right) is beholden to the practice of _xenia,_ the guest-host relationship in Ancient Hellenic society: that taking someone into your domain (your house, your _oikos),_ that they're to be a guest of yours, sees one be required to provide them necessary food & drink, to visit no harm upon their person, etc.

He had about as much gravitas as a blank piece of paper.

Not sure if he was happy about getting the underworld, but at least he didn't complain, cheat on his wife, and considering that we have no myth of the dead escaping the Hells to wreak havoc on the surface, we can assume he was very competent at his job

Not being represented well in adaptation terms

This is how hades actually is in Greek mythology

I mean, it was strange that Hades was the odd man out in the books with his outfits, not wearing modern clothes when literally every other deity was.

I kind of like the outfit. He looks like a funeral director.

⁠@@Falloutlover1011well… he is the odd man out. He’s the only one who doesn’t get to be in Olympus and it’s made pretty clear throughout all the books that he quite literally is the odd man out from all the gods. He doesn’t fit with the rest of them, he just does his duty in the underworld, and has no connection to anything going on in the normal world, which is why he doesn’t bother being fashionable or anything, he just does his thing

​@@Falloutlover1011 Uhm, Hades was not the odd one out. The other gods don't wear normal clothes either when acting as gods.

James described his Hades as a used car salesman. Someone who picks his words carefully to get what he wants out of a deal.

@@jordanloux3883 I know.

Before they figured out that Kronos was pulling the strings, Hades believed that Percy had stolen his helm just as much as Zeus believed that he had stolen the bolt. So it makes sense that Hades would be at least moderately hostile about the exchange and not let Sally be too comfortable while he was waiting for Percy to come get her. When Percy arrived, Hades thought that he was dealing with a desperate demigod thief that had finally figured out that he’d bitten off more than he could chew, so his tone of smug arrogance was perfect. When they figured out that Percy and the bolt were just cogs in Kronos’ scheme, Hades immediately realized that he needed to keep Percy, the bolt, and Sally out of Kronos’ grasp by whatever means necessary. Hence the offer of sanctuary. I see that Hades believes in denying the enemy everything they want. It’s a respectable method for waging war.

That’s the point.

Yea he was intimidating and actually had such a presence. This guy is a chihuahua

Thank you. Book Hades was quite a lot better.

Yes they have missed this point, but i like what they tried to do in this serie with him.

Who the heck takes a vacation on Tartarus !? What does that say about their mental stability ?

That vacation part was a JOKE. NO ONE takes a vacation in Tartarus!!! Well except for maybe monsters. Percy and Annabeth fall in at the end of Book 7. Well, Annabeth is pulled in by Arachne, another woman who was cursed by Mommy Dearest for a supposed slight, and when Percy couldn't pull her back up, he decided to go down with her rather than let Annabeth go alone. Arachne attacks them again at the bottom, but Percy quickly kills her with Riptide. Book 8 chronicles their journey through Tartarus as they try to survive, escape, and close the portal that a legion of monsters is using as a fast escape method from Tartarus: as long as this particular portal is open, monsters keep resurrecting FAST whenever they're killed. It's also the only way out for them. With the help of the Titan Bob, whose memories Percy had wiped by throwing him into the Lethe during a fight with Thalia and Nico, the son of Hades, and the friendly Giant Damasen, Percy and Annabeth escaped and closed the portal while Bob and Damasen were apparently destroyed holding off the embodiment of Tartarus itself. In one of Rick Riordan's newest novels, The Sun and the Star, Nico and his boyfriend Will Solace, the son of Apollo, returned to Tartarus after realizing that Bob was still alive and rescued him. They snuck in using an ACTUAL secret entrance to the Underworld, but Nico later learned that Hades was actually the one who sent them on the quest, having prompted the Oracle to give the prophecy over a dozen times until Nico and Will actually went.

​@@WarGrowlmon18 I ain't reading allat

Hades just wanted to protect himself when Kronos rose, that's not about stopping the war.

Hades didn’t give a damn about the war, he was focusing on what came next. Far as he was concerned, that little pissing match was going to play out exactly how Kronos wanted it, and there was no point in worrying about it anymore. And he was almost right.

Hades: 🇨🇭

I wonder why though. What did he gain by having them there ?

@@JabamiLain At that point, he thought that Percy was the one who stole his helm, so he was very interested in making sure Percy was going to make the Underworld his home sooner rather than later. Hades was probably going to give Percy and Grover the Pirithus Treatment.

@@coltonwilliams4153 what's that

Nah, he cheats once, with Minthe, nymph from the underworld, and she insult queen persephone that she is more beautiful, and persephone curse her

Not to mention Zeus' insufferable egotism and constant philandering.

It's almost summer Persephone is with Demeter.

@@diegoolivaresgonzalez42 ahh, I see. Thank you for clarifying. I wasn’t sure about the shows timeline

@@king_mansamusa7158 I remember becouse after watching that awful movie I read the books. And they specify that Persephone was not there becouse it was summer(unlike the movie).

I think I remember him saying those specifically. I think he kinda tried to trick them.

He meant pomegranates. It’s the Underworld specialty. Pomegranates so good, you’ll never want to leave (not that you could).

From what I see it can be interpreted as a sneaky ploy to bind them to his realm (anyone, mortal or God, who eats food of the underworld is trapped there) or he is just upholding Xenia (the Greek law of hospitality).

Hades is typical Sigma Male

I mean, but it's true. They know who each other is. There really is no need for presentation, unless you have a taste for showmanship.

Plus, Hades thought that the brat who stole his helm had finally come, so he was going a mile a minute to slip an offer of food and drink in there to trick them into accepting. Once you eat the Underworld’s food, you never leave.

If his helm was not returned by summer solstice then he definitely would be going to war against his family. The writers forgot that both Hades and Zues gave Percy that deadline, the readers did not know the helm was missing until later so they didn't understand why the Furies were panicking. Knowing how bitter Hades is, if Percy failed which is what happened in the show, then he would not even negotiate.

He's right though and it's never addressed in the books

@@WarGrowlmon18 I know how was Percy not thankful for him saving his mother💀

@@l30362 No he wasn't but it's a definite fact that she would've been dead for real had Hades not abducted her like that.

Well have you met Hades’s mom and Grandma

@@TheBandit025Nova His mom's Rhea and she seems to be fairly nice. But Grandma is Gaea.😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬

What?😮😮😮

@@User5tg4vfwtbht Yep. In the books, ww2 was caused by the children of the three elder gods. Hades is on the side of nazi germany because his son is Adolf Hitler.

@@DennisNoelBarroga Shhhhh we all pretend like that little tidbit doesn’t exist

I thought that wasn’t canon anymore??? I remember seeing that but like no one talks about it lol

@@synivy4576 because it's controversial. But it's heavily implied that the leaders of axis powers are the sons of hades and the allied nations' are sons of poseidon and zeus. Even one of the characters from the books mentioned that Hades is a spitting image of Adolf Hitler without the mustache. Lol

Finally someone notices, sure yeah the show finally broke the Hades is Satan stereotype, but while the freaking lord of the underworld was chill, he was not this CHILL.

Sean Bean was the only one I didn’t mind so unless the Writer has problems

Blah blah blah

​@@davidalves31057 No, not blablabla. The gods in this Show don't feel godly. That's not good. Book Hades was much better. He actually felt like a god.

Hades in the book nothing like the mythology 🤷🏾‍♂️

Did you forget what he looks like in the Lightning Thief because i don’t

In the book, Hades was way edgier than how they portrayed him in the movie. He threatened to kill Percy if he didn't return his helm, he speculated that Percy was trying to distract him with his theories about Kronos. It was clear that there was no way Percy could convince Hades so he decided to escape the underworld. It was only when the Furies saw Percy fight Ares that the truth was revealed. It is true he does not want anything to do with his brothers but his bitterness forcing him to isolate himself is a major part of his characters. Making him into a chill uncle takes away from it.

Since it takes place during the summer, Persephone is likely in Olympus with her mother Demeter. Then she’d go back to the Underworld during fall and winter.

In Summer she stays with her mother Demeter. In Winters she stays with her husband Hades.

In Brazil making mortals 🥵🥵🥵🥵

Persephone's pearls were just an invention of that awful movie.🙄🙄🙄 The book had Percy get 3 pearls from that Nereid but they sent the gang to the ocean near Los Angeles rather than to Montauk.

You want Hollywood movie stuff, try Clash of The Titans then....

@@davidalves31057 Average film. No I just wanted the Gods to be a little more Godly.

@@davidalves31057 Alas, there will be no better picture on Greek mythology. ("The Blood of Zeus" counts?) Except for "Hercules" with The Rock.

​@@davidalves31057 He wants Percy Jackson.

It's summer: she's in the upper world for half of the year

RR has said that Hitler was not a demigod

Hades doesn't want more subjects: poor guy is too overworked as it is😒😒😒