Perfect Dark Nintendo 64 vs Nintendo Switch Online

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Graslu00

Graslu00

Күн бұрын

Perfect Dark N64 arrived on the NSO service yesterday! And it's no good! Here's footage of the issues I've found while playing last night. Play the PC port instead: github.com/fgsfdsfgs/perfect_...
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Audio
0:30 - Input delay
0:50 - Blur effect
1:47 - Shooting frame drops
2:13 - Missing X tracks
2:50 - Light flares
3:42 - Explosions and debris
4:17 - UV's and textures
5:21 - Online

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@grimmnms5901
@grimmnms5901 17 күн бұрын
Its because the switch doesnt have an expansion pack port 😂
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 17 күн бұрын
Touche 😂
@BLSoldier00
@BLSoldier00 17 күн бұрын
LOL
@wii-mortal
@wii-mortal 16 күн бұрын
it may come on switch 2
@M1XART
@M1XART 15 күн бұрын
Yes, only 30% was available without physical Memory Expansion Pack.
@synthsymph6501
@synthsymph6501 15 күн бұрын
The solo missions did not happen. Graslu was locked to the Combat Simulator the whole time 😊
@SayVandelay
@SayVandelay 17 күн бұрын
The missing X tracks is by far the greatest offence here, how dare they do this legendary soundtrack dirty like this.
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 17 күн бұрын
For some reason, it's only on Agent Villa and Deep Sea. It's strange.
@MxArgent
@MxArgent 17 күн бұрын
It's a really weird oversight. Feels like something far more severe than simple emulation error.
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept 17 күн бұрын
@@MxArgent depends if they got the masters or not. Hell, we don't have a Homeworld Cataclysm/Emergence remaster because the masters are with Elvis and Haffa, while the PS2 Ace Combat Trinity masters burned up like kindling.
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 16 күн бұрын
@@TheTrueAdept for this game that shouldn't be an issue at all
@vrishnak92
@vrishnak92 16 күн бұрын
@@Matanumi having the master copy can go a long way for a proper port. Just look at the remaster of Halo CE. They had to use the gearbox copy which was plagued with bugs & programming oversight as the master copy was not available
@YawleyG
@YawleyG 17 күн бұрын
Nintendo released an effective advertisement for the PC port.
@poppysgtspanky
@poppysgtspanky 17 күн бұрын
For real, I just downloaded the port today in response to this garbage and it’s amazing
@map04wormhole
@map04wormhole 17 күн бұрын
Loose lips sink ships
@SammyRenard
@SammyRenard 16 күн бұрын
@@map04wormhole Not this ship-- it's reverse-engineered and doesn't include the actual game data like maps textures music etc, so nintendo doesn't really have anything to go after them for
@whiteshadow59
@whiteshadow59 16 күн бұрын
where can i get the PC port?
@mervin0070
@mervin0070 16 күн бұрын
@@poppysgtspanky please share the link
@joshl3467
@joshl3467 17 күн бұрын
Nintendo doesn't understand emulation, it actively resists it.
@Leonstrife1999
@Leonstrife1999 17 күн бұрын
They can resist all they want, but it's here to stay like it or not
@GreenLeefMusic
@GreenLeefMusic 17 күн бұрын
They are using emulation for their N64 Online, SNES Online, NES Online, GBA and GB/GBC Online though. They have also used it in some re-releases on the Switch of GameCube, Wii and N64 games (Super Mario 3D All Stars is a prime example). Nintendo just wants it done on their terms and with only the games they choose to serve to their console base only pretty much. But they also hate anyone using their IP in any form including mods in other games, sheet music now, emulators, fan projects, fan art, etc. They have been especially gung-ho this year seemingly and abusing DMCA in any way that they can. 👎 I really hope DMCA gets reformed for the better personslly but I also imagine they are throwing serious cash to lobby against that in any form so I'm not holding my breath unfortunately.
@HappyCucco.
@HappyCucco. 17 күн бұрын
@@josephvanbrunning2960 what about big companies leave the internet and we get to do our own thing while still being connected and the internet becomes the place it was intended to be? A place for true sharing and not this fake social abomination of a clickfest
@jamesk1868
@jamesk1868 17 күн бұрын
I recall seeing a video where Nintendo was caught using a ROM that was posted on one of those sites (that they force people to take down), and put it up for sale on the eShop.
@codezero7981
@codezero7981 16 күн бұрын
yet they actively shut down every website that has their ROMs..
@winlover37
@winlover37 16 күн бұрын
It's so disappointing to see Nintendo actively hunt ROM sites, meanwhile they're just completely incapable of providing a good alternative. Nintendo, I have zero issue with giving you money for legacy games, but the emulation quality has to at least be on par with what the community has done over the years. Honestly if I'm paying you, it should be better even.
@djb5255
@djb5255 12 күн бұрын
This comment goes hard.
@winlover37
@winlover37 11 күн бұрын
@@DvnCodes_ You're not understanding a few things. So Rare made the original game, and that part is fine. The emulation here on the Switch from my understanding is from some in-house team at Nintendo. The emulation quality is what's lacking here, not the game. If you're still confused, emulation is a software recreation of a piece of hardware. So perfect dark on switch isn't a 1:1 recreation of the original game on N64 hardware, it's using software to approximate the CPU and GPU of the original system to run the game. Due to this it's very hard, especially for the N64 and its use of micro-code, to accurately emulate N64 games on modern day machines. The emulation community and overall Nintendo fans have made great strides with N64 emulation and native ports of N64 games (check the description on the video for the PC port of Perfect Dark, it's amazing.) Which is why it's so frustrating that these amazing efforts are constantly under threat by Nintendo's legal team, meanwhile their offering here for Perfect Dark is lackluster to say the least. Hope this helps!
@winlover37
@winlover37 11 күн бұрын
@@DvnCodes_ You're misunderstanding a few things. Rare made the original game on the N64, they had no hand in this Nintendo Switch Online version which is emulating the original. The emulation quality here as seen in the video is lackluster to say the least. The community has made great strides with N64 emulation, so it's insulting that it's constantly under threat by Nintendo's legal team. Meanwhile Nintendo is charging you money to play this shoddy version. The GTA "definitive" edition is a completely different thing.
@bryanmarenco8615
@bryanmarenco8615 11 күн бұрын
Nintendo no busca activamente sitios que emulan juegos viejos.. busca activamente los que emulan sus consolas modernas!! Osea, piratería!!
@winlover37
@winlover37 10 күн бұрын
@@DvnCodes_ Where did you get Xbox Studios from? I think you might have been looking at the XBLA remaster for Perfect Dark that's available on Xbox/Rare Replay, totally different thing. Nintendo Switch Online releases are handled in house. The only involvement Xbox/Microsoft would have on this would be giving Nintendo the greenlight to release the game on NSO since they own the IP. It's up to whatever team at Nintendo to handle the emulation properly. Semantics aside, I'm wondering why you're playing defense for Nintendo? Even without going down the rabbit hole of who made what, it is a game on a Nintendo console subscription service that's lackluster. It's absolutely up to Nintendo to be good with their quality check.
@JupiterNoose
@JupiterNoose 17 күн бұрын
i gasped when i saw the blurring effect, i can not believe that this got a pass
@greenyoshi64
@greenyoshi64 17 күн бұрын
Ya holly shit that got pass quality seal of Nintendo & this is first party game
@frannielmartinez
@frannielmartinez 16 күн бұрын
@@greenyoshi64 Second Party
@X2011racer
@X2011racer 16 күн бұрын
Basically, it's the emulator's anti-seizure Lua script triggering a false positive. Whenever a game produces rapid flashing, the emulator either darkens the screen (Super Mario Kart) or applies a blur filter (Earthbound). The screen blur must have caused a false positive since intense blurring can cause eye strain. No prior game on Nintendo Switch Online has ever produced intense blurring.
@That-Ninja
@That-Ninja 15 күн бұрын
Yes and the light going through everything is pretty crazy too... It's very crazy how team looked at all of these problems and said screw it it's good enough..... Maybe if we all got together and stared at them with a blank stare, maybe...... Just maybe. 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
@ukl33
@ukl33 12 күн бұрын
Yeah, I said "oh my God" out loud 😆
@DoktorVicTim
@DoktorVicTim 16 күн бұрын
Blurry Effect broken. Dear god, getting shot by a tranq gun is now an absolute death sentence.
@dr.durazo
@dr.durazo 11 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@WreckSeven
@WreckSeven 17 күн бұрын
It's a shame some of these old games get such poor treatment for modern re-releases. They already get enough flack and disrespect by people online, and this always makes it worse. They simply don't educate themselves on the differences, while blindly claiming it's the original product's issues.
@geekarchivistpearce828
@geekarchivistpearce828 4 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, it's not just their American branch that are clueless, even Japan is part of the problem.
@damacattack8434
@damacattack8434 17 күн бұрын
Wow, this DEFINITELY needs a major patch update. It's a good thing we still got the HD remaster on Rare Replay.
@M0HAK0
@M0HAK0 17 күн бұрын
Tbh i may revist that version. The switch version is terrible.
@LLAAPPSSEE
@LLAAPPSSEE 16 күн бұрын
Maybe a roadmap and some macrotransactions too.
@chemergency
@chemergency 16 күн бұрын
Just play the PC decomp version.
@whiteshadow59
@whiteshadow59 16 күн бұрын
@@chemergency where can i get it?
@kraken5003
@kraken5003 16 күн бұрын
@@chemergency where/how do you get that?
@Wasabi19940
@Wasabi19940 17 күн бұрын
So basically good vs shite
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 17 күн бұрын
Pretty much
@Leonstrife1999
@Leonstrife1999 17 күн бұрын
That sums up my thoughts
@AngelHalo017
@AngelHalo017 17 күн бұрын
Nintendo: *Goes to war with emulation, wiping their own history that they have slim-chances of ever reselling to the public!* Also Nintendo: *Using emulation that's so awful, you're better off using Project 64.*
@thisemptyworm4677
@thisemptyworm4677 17 күн бұрын
They ONLY want us to have fun with their stuff
@UltimaKeyMaster
@UltimaKeyMaster 17 күн бұрын
Fuck me if P64 is the better option, Nintendo has utterly lost the plot.
@nickm5419
@nickm5419 17 күн бұрын
​@@UltimaKeyMaster Retroarch is free on Steam,just provide your own ROMS
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 16 күн бұрын
Facts
@goldeneyeforevercom
@goldeneyeforevercom 2 күн бұрын
To the OP, you have no idea what you're talking about.
@StupidMarioBros1Fan
@StupidMarioBros1Fan 17 күн бұрын
I left this comment on the stream archive but I'll post it here too: The glitched texture in Villa isn't a new issue. The Texture has an incorrect setting which results in it appearing as garbage data but it usually has different, darker colors compared to what was seen in the stream. There is technically an emulation error happening because it looks different but it was always broken. Even if discovered during playtesting, it's not exactly simple to figure out why it looks different when pretty much every other Level Texture in the game is fine. At best you discover it was a pre-existing issue that got overlooked and would need an editor to fix it, which you don't have and it's not a big enough deal to try to get access to one. More likely though you can't figure out why it looks different from the N64 version and have to just go with it because you already spent too much time trying to solve a seemingly impossible issue. For anyone curious it's an issue with the Texture's Mipmap setting, which makes the Texture smaller when farther away. Most Textures in the game have them with the Level Geometry having an On/Off switch for this feature, usually so Textures without Mipmaps don't try to load any. If that switch is wrong though, then the Texture will appear as corrupted data which is what happened in Villa. Extremely simple fix with the GE/PD Setup Editor if you're doing any modding but that's not exactly an option for the NSO version.
@X2011racer
@X2011racer 16 күн бұрын
I should check the Xbox 360 version and see if the texture is "fixed" by 4J Studios. EDIT: O.K., they kinda did it by just placing the Guardrail texture with broken transparency. Still looks wrong, though.
@StupidMarioBros1Fan
@StupidMarioBros1Fan 16 күн бұрын
@@X2011racer Forgot to mention it but yes this was fixed in the XBLA version.
@lamb6276
@lamb6276 16 күн бұрын
​@@StupidMarioBros1Fanthank god I thought the remaster was unplayable
@hatsuneelissu5924
@hatsuneelissu5924 17 күн бұрын
1:14 TDM with only N-Bombs could be a party!
@AceFerron
@AceFerron 17 күн бұрын
no suprises there lmao, I imagined it would be a lackluster release
@KevinSharter
@KevinSharter 17 күн бұрын
24 years later and they still can’t get it right
@KENTROVERSY86
@KENTROVERSY86 17 күн бұрын
They can get it right.... They just don't want to.
@zultriova89
@zultriova89 16 күн бұрын
what right is left
@RenanDark00
@RenanDark00 17 күн бұрын
That N64 dizzy/blur effect made me nauseous when I was a kid. That plus the 15fps was enough lmao. Literally lost all senses when someone slaps you and the camera goes everywhere.
@X2011racer
@X2011racer 16 күн бұрын
At least it doesn't go completely dark like any early emulators that can't render blur.
@UltimaKeyMaster
@UltimaKeyMaster 16 күн бұрын
@@X2011racer It is legitimately better for it to go dark than to make you actually ill.
@M1XART
@M1XART 15 күн бұрын
Motion blur looked really cool on CRT, but this game was originally released just when LCD hit the market, -resulting additional drunken blurr all the time😵.
@5persondude
@5persondude 16 күн бұрын
Ah yes, good old-fashioned Nintendo complacency
@1234_Flux
@1234_Flux 17 күн бұрын
What's up with NSO games being broken on release? This isn't the first time this has happened.
@Hysteria98
@Hysteria98 14 күн бұрын
N64 emulation is notoriously difficult and has taken fans absolutely years to optimise, Nintendo just seemingly haven't fucking bothered at all.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 17 күн бұрын
Remember as the saying goes Emulation can what Nintendon't. Or something like that.
@MatthewCenance
@MatthewCenance 5 күн бұрын
More like Nintendon't do emulation right. Or Nintendoesn't do emulation right... I don't know.
@patrickholt8782
@patrickholt8782 16 күн бұрын
Still baffles me to this day that perfect dark wasn’t delayed for a gamecube release. It would have really help game performance and early cube sales to have an M rated fps. Oh well can’t change the past.
@ArmaBiologica35
@ArmaBiologica35 15 күн бұрын
Perfect Dark on GameCube would have been badass.
@haydenlandry3837
@haydenlandry3837 14 күн бұрын
At least we have Timesplitters.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 17 күн бұрын
Switch users should, switch, to the N64 version. :)
@Kyzekrem
@Kyzekrem 17 күн бұрын
And still enjoying it after all these years! 😁
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 16 күн бұрын
I’m going to guess that most will take the emulation inaccuracies over the aliased and blurry graphics of the original.
@Kimarnic
@Kimarnic 16 күн бұрын
Can't wait to buy a N64 and PD for 800 euros
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 16 күн бұрын
What about the Xbox version? Let me guess something wrong with that one? It’s 4K and 60fps and has online the right way.
@umbrellacorporation9168
@umbrellacorporation9168 16 күн бұрын
Sold my switch for a coloured N64 haven’t looked back since
@universesixhit642
@universesixhit642 17 күн бұрын
Jesus Christ that blur and the online. Nintendo what happened to you.
@penguinjay
@penguinjay 16 күн бұрын
success. Nintendo treats people better and does better work when they are struggling.
@nietzscheente1271
@nietzscheente1271 17 күн бұрын
Cool comparsion video. They F'ed it up. Again.
@cuccooverlord9812
@cuccooverlord9812 17 күн бұрын
They patched OoT hopefully with enough noise, they'll patch this as well. Let's send them this video.
@thetombuck
@thetombuck 17 күн бұрын
OoT is a flagship first party Nintendo title so it got extra special attention. GE is still broken so PD's chances are slim to never. Nintendo doesn't care
@Megalania1
@Megalania1 7 күн бұрын
Even if they do why should we have to wait for a patch? It’s not like they can’t test the game before releasing it to the service this is just letting Nintendo get away with it and saying “oh well it will be fixed eventually”
@MatthewCenance
@MatthewCenance 5 күн бұрын
Sony pulled similar poor conduct with Legend of Dragoon and had to fix that in an update too. But there, it was more severe with game freezes or softlocks when using Magic or Dragoon powers.
@GoldenEyeCentral-el6zj
@GoldenEyeCentral-el6zj 17 күн бұрын
They really expect us to pay for bullshit emulation when we can just use an emulator on pc.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 17 күн бұрын
I think it's for kids that don't know how to yet now :\
@finkamain1621
@finkamain1621 17 күн бұрын
@@Eduardo_Espinoza And the Nintendo fanboys that refuse to emulate anything unless Nintendo releases it
@thisemptyworm4677
@thisemptyworm4677 17 күн бұрын
​@@finkamain1621we should stop those ignorant people
@BackpackYT
@BackpackYT 17 күн бұрын
@@Eduardo_Espinoza but this is only available in mature mode
@GoldenEyeCentral-el6zj
@GoldenEyeCentral-el6zj 17 күн бұрын
@@Eduardo_Espinoza It isn't made for kids. It's 17+. And Nintendo hates online emulators and offers this as an alternative.
@LLAAPPSSEE
@LLAAPPSSEE 16 күн бұрын
Legend. I'm so glad people like you exist to reaxmine these ports vs the original art. It really is far more detrimental to gaming than other formats as it's harder to go back and play the original games without the hardware. A lack of concern in representing the game as it was is really upsetting -- especially when it's worse than the original. It takes away some of the magic of the original title for new folks. The bloom lights not being occluded is wild. Honestly, to think that tech on the N64... It's always been one of my favorite games. It set a bar very high back then and, honestly, still today.
@NoXp3rt
@NoXp3rt 16 күн бұрын
Christ, i got halfway through the video shaking my head and it just kept getting worse. Thanks for the in detail exposee here Graslu. It's such a damned shame
@X2011racer
@X2011racer 16 күн бұрын
There's also a few things missed: 1. Because there's no N64 Controller Pak functionality, you cannot save your Multiplayer unlocks or Challenge Progress. 2. The NSO version uses US ver. 1.0, which has a serious corruption glitch in the Warehouse Multiplayer arena, where simulants crawling through the vents can cause a garbage data overflow and render the game unplayable upon the next boot up. Also, Trent Easton is invisible when watching the Crash Site outro scene from the theater mode. 3. The N64 Controller icon is not supposed to be visible when wide-screen is activated. This doesn't happen in Goldeneye or Jet Force Gemini. Possibly a glitch on the N64 Mature 17+ app that doesn't exist on the regular version of the app. 4. The Xbox Live Arcade version supports up to 12 players online. Nintendo Switch Online only supports 4 players, which lines up with Goldeneye XBLA's online mode. Also, the XBLA version has Xbox Live public matches, while NSO only supports online with friends, which is comparable to Xbox Live private matches.
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 16 күн бұрын
You can save the profile on the Game Pak, there's no need for a Controller Pak but yes it's very, very limited. Especially if you play online. Didn't realize they used 1.0... How did you check this?
@X2011racer
@X2011racer 16 күн бұрын
@Graslu00 My game became unplayable after playing a Multiplayer match in Warehouse with Simulants on Nintendo Switch. Gues it's back to Xbox 360, because Nintendo did another ROM purge so I cannot use 1964 as recommended. Not to mention that getting non-Steam applications to run on Steam Deck is complicated, so I won't bother with the PC decompilation, not unless they manage to get the XBLA graphics, voice clips, control schemes, and exclusive content such as Agent 4 implemented.
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 16 күн бұрын
@@X2011racer Nintendo only shut down one page there are still thousands of ROMs up.
@goldeneyeforevercom
@goldeneyeforevercom 2 күн бұрын
It was called the 3 player Warehouse glitch. Try loading it and game froze. They never widely announced it so very few people went to Nintendo to get the updated/patched game. Can't think of any other bug on this magnitude. No idea about this simulants thing. I also haven't tried to load 3 player Warehouse to verify it's going to freeze or not.
@Lebon19
@Lebon19 17 күн бұрын
The minute they announced it, I knew it would be broken on arrival.
@carterconway7272
@carterconway7272 17 күн бұрын
I think i like the N64 version better.
@Flpstrike
@Flpstrike 17 күн бұрын
Damn it, Nintendo can't do ANY kind of emulation properly?
@paulosergio...
@paulosergio... 17 күн бұрын
No, she can only take down emulators.
@Flpstrike
@Flpstrike 17 күн бұрын
@@paulosergio... Melhor jogar Perfect Dark no PC ou Xbox, coitado de quem paga por isso
@paulosergio...
@paulosergio... 17 күн бұрын
​@@Flpstrikeconcordo 100%
@kestrel7714
@kestrel7714 16 күн бұрын
@@Flpstrike Sim falou tudo, Nintendo Switch não tem conquistas propria dos games. e emulador do NSO é muito basica só tem 2 funções. Save/Load State e Rewind. e só isso e enquanto do emuladores para PC ja tem Retroarchievement. O que Nintendo fez, isso não faz sentido ter o NSO. essa não ter existido isso. Nintendo não merece quando os jogos antigo se foram tem q deixar publico jogarem os seus antigo pois são considerado abandonware e pq os caras q criaram os games a empresa que fechou e não existe mais e Nintendo nao pode adquiri-los/usar os games antigo de outra empresa sem autorização isso e de fato. E advogados dos nintendo devia envergonha-lo e ficar com o dinheiro e perder pra Nintendo seria maior o sonho dos gamers.
@kestrel7714
@kestrel7714 16 күн бұрын
@@Flpstrike Yes, said everything! Nintendo Switch doesn't have achievements in specific to all games. and NSO emulator is very basic it only has 2 functions. Save/Load State and Rewind. And that's it, while PC emulators already have Retroarchievement. What Nintendo did, that doesn't make sense to have NSO. this didn't exist. Nintendo doesn't deserve it when the old games are gone, they have to let the public play their old ones rights because they are considered abandonware and because the guys who created the games the company closed down and no longer exists and Nintendo can't acquire them/use the old games from another company without authorization, that is true. And lawyers of Nintendo should laughing to Nintendo and keep the money for good and lose to Nintendo, it would be a bigger dream for gamers. Shame on you Nintendo... instead of making console new gen. Sell games to Steam or Sony whatever, just be like Sega did it's profitable. learn with what Sega did. Nintendo. and now Nintendo never changes.
@TheAmazingLSB
@TheAmazingLSB 17 күн бұрын
Wow, you weren't kidding yesterday, were you...?
@FloosWorld_AoE
@FloosWorld_AoE 16 күн бұрын
Nintendo unintentionally made the best promo for PD's PC port. Edit: Idk why, but the broken blurry effect awfully reminds me of using Flashbangs in CS 1.6 and Source.
@pikachu896
@pikachu896 16 күн бұрын
How the hell did that blur effect get past QA testing? That's absolutely unacceptable. I'm guessing they didn't even test the game at all.
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 16 күн бұрын
What QA?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 7 күн бұрын
@@mimi4plus3 That was the joke. What QA, not what's QA. 😔
@feplays007
@feplays007 17 күн бұрын
1:13 I got dizzy along with Joanna 😵‍💫🫨
@-ShadowKitten-
@-ShadowKitten- 17 күн бұрын
Wow i never truly appreciated the lighting effects in perfect dark until now. Wow what a fumble lol
@GreenLeefMusic
@GreenLeefMusic 17 күн бұрын
I liked the better performance (with some exceptions including firing multiple shots) and higher resolution. But i really hope they patch all of these issues. That multiplayer looked like they applied the missing blur effect from the campaign to the entire multiplayer match 😂. I am wondering what emulator they used here or if they used their own in-house version. I was pretty excited for this even with better alternatives out there as not everyone keeps up with the ports and emulation nor wants to set them up / seek out how to. Me personally i just wanted to finally play thru the whole game with the original controller experience to use my N64 Online controller with. I can and have used the controller with emulation before but it gets annoying having to re-assign all of my buttons back and forth between multiple controllers since i dont want to only use the N64 controller at all times, but I think I will heed your advice and try out that PC port finally. I'm curious if the N64 online controller could be used on the PC port but at same time it isnt really a deal breaker either.
@goldeneyeforevercom
@goldeneyeforevercom 2 күн бұрын
Ask yourself this. Does a light shining through a gun matter so much? The blur effect and the missing debris seem like legit issues although I haven't done enough multiplayer to see about the dizzy effect and if it's a game breaker or not. The eye candy on this version is really the selling point. The clarity. Using the original controllers. I feel along on an island thinking that I'm the only one who simply wants the authentic, actual, non modified version of the game.
@NeriVela
@NeriVela 17 күн бұрын
Look how they massacred my girl :(
@roflBeck
@roflBeck 15 күн бұрын
First the Perfect Chin reveal and now this? Aww man.
@GlenLentz
@GlenLentz 17 күн бұрын
I'm not surprised the multiplayer for this on switch sucks balls, didn't the same thing happen with Goldeneye when they release it on the Switch?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 17 күн бұрын
Yes and it'll always be the same because it's all peer-to-peer connections.
@roflBeck
@roflBeck 15 күн бұрын
@@Graslu00 Man, having to pay 50 bones per year so you can play this peer-to-peer. Insane.
@viejonazo8968
@viejonazo8968 12 күн бұрын
Best fps of all history, modern games should use this game mechanics, this game its perfect, amazing story, coop, carrigton institute, aliens, girls, lots of weapons, you can hold lots of weapon at same time, all weapons with double function, bots with their own personality, best multiplayer ever, challenges, everything on this game
@universesixhit642
@universesixhit642 17 күн бұрын
You know emulation is bad whenever if you paid me to play it I wouldn't.
@KylerFlame
@KylerFlame 16 күн бұрын
I think I've seen the glitch on emulators with the X song in Carrington Villa not playing, usually pausing and unpausing resumes at, level 1 did this as well
@eininternetuser8243
@eininternetuser8243 17 күн бұрын
Why is the X track even missing? Is there a reason for that?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 17 күн бұрын
Emulator timing stuff. Not very easy to explain but basically the script breaks when running faster than it should so it may be skipped. Pausing the game and unpausing can fix it sometimes.
@abogadowright8326
@abogadowright8326 16 күн бұрын
I don't even want to think about what would happen if you started an online multiplayer game with all the simulators and full of N-bombs exploding at the same time xD
@WizardofWar
@WizardofWar 12 күн бұрын
Do you have a video comparing the original to the PC port?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 12 күн бұрын
No, since the PC port is still getting updates so any inaccuracies will be patched in the future. Currently the lights are broken in a similar way on the PC port, except they don't go through walls like on Switch.
@synthsymph6501
@synthsymph6501 16 күн бұрын
I never wanted this gem to be put on NSO for these reasons exactly. For new people who want to try this game, just play the Xbox version or get it on a computer or if you have any access to a N64 and a copy of this game. DON'T PLAY NSO VERSION!!
@goldeneyeforevercom
@goldeneyeforevercom 2 күн бұрын
If you want to play a bastardized version of Perfect Dark, sure.
@paulosergio...
@paulosergio... 17 күн бұрын
It would have been better if the XBLA version had been ported to the Switch and fixed instead of releasing this broken emulation. I hope PD XBLA and PD Zero release for PC and they are all fixed.
@goldeneyeforevercom
@goldeneyeforevercom 2 күн бұрын
If you call this broken you don't know what the F you are talking about.
@kmdbaby
@kmdbaby 17 күн бұрын
How does the Switch version compare to the Rare Replay version on Xbox?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 17 күн бұрын
I'll make a comparison of N64 vs Xbox eventually.
@lordmaximus780
@lordmaximus780 14 күн бұрын
i'm assuming the 360 and Rare Replay port of Perfect Dark are still the definitive versions?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 14 күн бұрын
PC port is, less issues than Rare Replay / 360.
@dragonbornexpress56554
@dragonbornexpress56554 12 күн бұрын
​@@Graslu00You just hate Xbox
@deus_nsf
@deus_nsf 11 күн бұрын
There's also the ugly UI and text rendering, many emulators get this wrong, text and UI are NOT filtered in PD, even in the original N64 version!
@FunkSwaggMusiK
@FunkSwaggMusiK 17 күн бұрын
Nah man that blurry effect turns it up a notch 😂
@irfman87
@irfman87 16 күн бұрын
The blur effect gave me a headache 😅
@averageanimefanboy9473
@averageanimefanboy9473 17 күн бұрын
How is the rare compilation version on xbox compared to thoses?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 17 күн бұрын
I'll eventually compare them too.
@andy7million314
@andy7million314 17 күн бұрын
What a masterpiece fps title. Childhood memories right here I was around 8 years old when I first started to play this game so awesome. Now I have it on the xbox one on Rare replay. Favourite game of all time!
@MatthewCenance
@MatthewCenance 5 күн бұрын
I noticed the timer in 2:23 shows a gap in between the : and the 1, but on the emulated version it's not rendered correctly (2:41).
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 5 күн бұрын
Yeah all the text is filtered when it shouldn't be.
@gatotsu2501
@gatotsu2501 14 күн бұрын
Is there any advantage the NSO version has over the Xbox 360/Rare Replay version even on paper?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 14 күн бұрын
No, zero.
@gatotsu2501
@gatotsu2501 14 күн бұрын
@@Graslu00 Good to know!
@shushuyukuyiyiyuku1470
@shushuyukuyiyiyuku1470 17 күн бұрын
i swear that room was upside-down where the elevator is in basement area of the mission DataDyne Defection and also the first area in Extraction
@CrispyChicken44
@CrispyChicken44 13 күн бұрын
Interesting that the light goes through everything on the first level like that... Playing the Xbox 360 Emulator Xenia, I've been playing Banjo Tooie on there via XBLA version. Sometimes, the lights do the same exact thing on there that happens here in PD.
@TheFirstDarkAero
@TheFirstDarkAero 17 күн бұрын
If I may ask... is there anything different (better or maybe even worse) with the European version of that game?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 17 күн бұрын
These are all emulation issues so I doubt it, but I didn't bother testing it.
@X2011racer
@X2011racer 16 күн бұрын
The Warehouse Data Corruption glitch doesn't exist in the European version, but the game is capped at 24 FPS. Also, some minor fixes and the entire screen is now filled with a slightly stretched POV.
@LemmyFan123
@LemmyFan123 16 күн бұрын
I think you mean the PAL version.
@X2011racer
@X2011racer 16 күн бұрын
@@LemmyFan123 The PAL version is exclusive to Europe, so he's not wrong.
@rockyfan
@rockyfan 17 күн бұрын
If this release was good I'd have bought a Switch just to play it. Safe to say Nintendo won't be seeing any of my money whilst it is in this state.
@justase64
@justase64 16 күн бұрын
brother I did this last year for Mario Kart 64 and the analog input feel was so bad and inauthentic that I returned everything and got nintendo to refund and cancel the NSO service. Had everything for one week. Even the stupid wireless N64 NSO controller. Lost money selling that thing since I bought it during the time they were being scalped.
@Hysteria98
@Hysteria98 14 күн бұрын
You literally don't even own it. And it's a fucking expansion for a shit subscription service with the worst online netcode ever. There is absolutely no reason on God's Green Earth to give Nintendo money for this when fans have spent years optimising N64 emulation properly and enhancing its games.
@FyreWulff
@FyreWulff 17 күн бұрын
Nintendo Emulation team 🤝4J "Getting Perfect Dark to run correctly anywhere other than the N64 is hard, man"
@lloyd011721
@lloyd011721 16 күн бұрын
is it split screen on the switch? with such a tiny screen?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 16 күн бұрын
You can play the Switch on any TV.
@liamramjean8542
@liamramjean8542 17 күн бұрын
How can RareWare games still be on Nintendo if rare have moved over to Microsoft?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 17 күн бұрын
Microsoft has a good relationship with Nintendo currently.
@liamramjean8542
@liamramjean8542 17 күн бұрын
@@Graslu00 thanks for that.
@beemoh
@beemoh 15 күн бұрын
In the same Direct this was announced, PlayStation Studios had a game announced for Switch, too. It's a strange new world.
@liamramjean8542
@liamramjean8542 15 күн бұрын
@@beemoh oh really, what game ?
@beemoh
@beemoh 15 күн бұрын
​​@@liamramjean8542 Lego Horizon Adventures. It's at 56:44 in the UK Direct.
@italobrettmusic
@italobrettmusic 17 күн бұрын
I am seriously having a hard time getting through the dataDyne chapter, I am not the best player but it's ridiculous how bad the delay is and how bad the frame drops are. I hope they at least do this one some justice and fix some of the problems.. but unlikely.
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 17 күн бұрын
Very unlikely, GoldenEye still has most of the same issues as January 2023.
@nickm5419
@nickm5419 17 күн бұрын
Fuck the switch version, get a Xbox
@justase64
@justase64 17 күн бұрын
Raphnet USB N64 adapter + raphnetraw input plugin on emulator = Heaven. Fuck NSO.
@kestrel7714
@kestrel7714 14 күн бұрын
I Agree!
@grendel3290
@grendel3290 8 күн бұрын
Aaaaaaand once again I am reminded why I download Nintendo ROMs and emulate them the way I want.
@alfredogxr8891
@alfredogxr8891 12 күн бұрын
Nintendo trying to get into the emulation business with its own games be like :
@italobrettmusic
@italobrettmusic 17 күн бұрын
Okay I finally got through dataDyne after sitting down tonight and I DID have the X-theme on Villa, I'm assuming they at least fixed that.. all other problems seem to persist.
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 17 күн бұрын
Did you play on Agent or Perfect Agent? Seems to work on Perfect but not Agent. It's an emulation issue that can very much be random too.
@italobrettmusic
@italobrettmusic 16 күн бұрын
@@Graslu00 I played on the special agent difficulty.
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 16 күн бұрын
@@italobrettmusic Maybe you got lucky, is it consistently playing while saving the hostage?
@italobrettmusic
@italobrettmusic 15 күн бұрын
@@Graslu00 In my replays of it, yes so far! Regardless that doesn't help the rest of the experience playing through it though. GoldenEye felt more playable in my opinion even with its many issues. Sad to see a great game like this yet again.
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 15 күн бұрын
@@italobrettmusic I'll check again, but yeah GoldenEye was a simpler game and easier to emulate but still has issues.
@InflatableConan
@InflatableConan 15 күн бұрын
Wow, I didn't know it was gonna be that bad on the Switch. I was gonna buy a second Switch (OLED) just to play this but thanks to your video it deterred my purchase. I ended up grabbing an Xbox Series X yesterday and a copy of Rare Replay instead. Something I've been wanting to do for awhile now.
@soupcan_97
@soupcan_97 17 күн бұрын
So Graslu, how's the new Perfect Dark?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 17 күн бұрын
It's very cool and good, Soup, I actually played it last year
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo 17 күн бұрын
I wish the N64 was in a higher resolution. Antialiasing, slower frame rate, and no RGB display for PAL almost killed it. Then again, the N64 was known to crash when things got hectic with 8 sims in combat multiplayer. Truly, PD was too radical for anything but PC.
@markus5237
@markus5237 15 күн бұрын
Hold up, the pc port in the description is native with PC and does NOT require 1964? 👀 I'm way behind.
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 15 күн бұрын
Correct!
@markus5237
@markus5237 15 күн бұрын
​@@Graslu00Simply amazing.
@chrisfratz
@chrisfratz 17 күн бұрын
At this point, I'm surprised this emulator got the vertex colors right.
@Tiredcream6472
@Tiredcream6472 17 күн бұрын
Now you know why I don't pay for switch online and just use 1964!
@goldeneyeforevercom
@goldeneyeforevercom 2 күн бұрын
How is the lens effect working for you?
@MorrisNicebrain
@MorrisNicebrain 16 күн бұрын
Looks like Nintendo is trying really hard sabotage the legacy of the N64.
@DENCHIKTEAM
@DENCHIKTEAM 14 күн бұрын
Do you know the status of Goldeneye 007 decompilation? The repo has been inactive for almost a year
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 14 күн бұрын
The active one is private, it's still in development.
@DENCHIKTEAM
@DENCHIKTEAM 14 күн бұрын
@@Graslu00 Holy shit, I'm a direct descendant of Nostradamus. I wanted to write a longer comment, but youtube deleted it instantly. That's where I assumed that the development was secret, lmao. Now I wonder why they decided to hide it?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 14 күн бұрын
@@DENCHIKTEAM MGM is very trigger happy lately with takedowns so despite it being fully legal it's better to be safe than sorry.
@DENCHIKTEAM
@DENCHIKTEAM 14 күн бұрын
@@Graslu00 Fair enough, because MGM's legal department is not sleeping and they may cause further closure of the project. And if it's not a secret how much decompilation is approximately complete?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 14 күн бұрын
@@DENCHIKTEAM the progress is public, it's hovering 65 percent or so.
@Phelikhan
@Phelikhan 17 күн бұрын
How can they do it so wrong? It must be on purpose. Dont know if it is legal to use the pc port, why didnt they use it?
@cheeseydoodoo
@cheeseydoodoo 17 күн бұрын
it's nintendo, money is the only thing they know in their corporate pissbrains.
@HarveyHirdHarmonics
@HarveyHirdHarmonics 10 күн бұрын
Emulation of the N64 is very difficult and some games use a lot of tricks for effects which were probably not intended by the console's designers. I don't think there's any emulator which runs all N64 games perfectly. Even when they have had lots and lots years of development and the open source community behind them. Nintendo's in house emulator is certainly no different. The Switch emulation at least doesn't have random stutters like open source emulators usually do (in the games I saw, played only a few). I usually can tell when a YT footage of a N64 game is emulated when the sound randomly cuts off for a blip. And I've never seen a good emulation of Mystical Ninja starring Goemon, not even on very fast PCs. The glitches shown here should be fixable with a patch. Depends on whether Nintendo wants to put in the effort. They did with Ocarina, but that is their own game.
@mirroredguitarist
@mirroredguitarist 15 күн бұрын
It's not on my NSO. I've tried updating it and still no Perfect dark for me :(
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 14 күн бұрын
You have to download the mature app
@mirroredguitarist
@mirroredguitarist 14 күн бұрын
Thank you! :)
@ale210
@ale210 13 күн бұрын
Also, the text of the gui looks like as emulated , it doesn't looks very well
@DiegoLuna-zv2zx
@DiegoLuna-zv2zx 10 күн бұрын
Japanese version doesn't have shooting frame drops, I don't know about the other issues it's odd
@PrimevalDemon
@PrimevalDemon 14 күн бұрын
Lovely work as always. At least somebody does!
@Kadm0Z
@Kadm0Z 16 күн бұрын
Very good work and demonstration.
@drumd00d
@drumd00d 16 күн бұрын
Is the Switch version the exact same as the Xbox version, or is that one better?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 16 күн бұрын
Switch is emulating the N64 version (poorly). Xbox is a remaster and a port, completely different.
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 16 күн бұрын
Xbox has a better version and it’s 4K on Xbox one X and Series X and has online
@erik93203
@erik93203 17 күн бұрын
thanks for the heads up.
@lostskull7467
@lostskull7467 16 күн бұрын
Damn, they gave perfect dark the rockstar definitive edition treatment.
@ericbekert
@ericbekert 12 күн бұрын
I was playing yesterday and X track is not missing what the hell are you playing?
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 12 күн бұрын
What difficulty did you play on? It works on Special Agent and Perfect Agent but for some reason not on Agent. On N64 it's there on all difficulties.
@ericbekert
@ericbekert 9 күн бұрын
@@Graslu00 Perfect Agent.
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 9 күн бұрын
@@ericbekert It's missing on Agent.
@ericbekert
@ericbekert 9 күн бұрын
@@Graslu00 so misleading to say that its missing without context.
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 9 күн бұрын
@@ericbekert All these videos come from a detailed Twitter thread I made. The mission start there is only on Agent and Special Agent, on Perfect Agent the start is from the dock and obviously different. It is clarified that it's only missing on Deep Sea and Villa Agent.
@LETTMusic
@LETTMusic 16 күн бұрын
The audio comparison at the beginning in my opinion is unfair and misleading. You have to gain match for proper audio comparison. In music production and mastering, it happens all the time you add a plugin or compressor or something that sounds 'better' because it's louder, but until you gain match, you can't objectively compare a before and after with audio. It's not lower audio quality on Switch just because it's quieter. That's just biases in our hearing that prefers louder. I gain matched both and the audio quality is basically the exact same once they are peaking at the same max loudness. It definitely looks like there's some stuff they need to patch up and address on the visuals, but after throwing the audio into a DAW myself, I feel pretty confident the quality is the same. They may just have implemented some additional headroom that makes it sound quieter, but nothing you can't address with the volume on your TV's remote.
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 16 күн бұрын
Compare the Falcon 2 shooting sound, it almost peaks on Switch while it's fine on N64. Same goes for explosions when there's a lot going on. I tested, I compared, it's the same as GoldenEye. It's not just lower, it's worse.
@LETTMusic
@LETTMusic 16 күн бұрын
@@Graslu00 The music is comparable in quality. SFX might be a little different. It feels like they may be a little more mono than stereo? It's a little hard to tell through KZfaq's additional audio compression as they can also sometimes squeeze stereo information down more mono. The soundtrack seems to be on par quality wise. You may be right that the SFX could be compressed a bit more or something could be different there. I'll give you that. Think it's worth treating OST and SFX as two categories, as they're typically different file types within games.
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 16 күн бұрын
@@LETTMusic Well then, let's agree on that they messed up the balance, because you can turn up the audio and go deaf by multiple explosions or turn it down and not hear the music properly. I just put the menu comparison there because it was the quickest and easiest way to show it, the rest is shown later in the video when it switches from N64 to Switch. Mentioning mono reminded me that the surround sound option within the game is broken, it doesn't do anything on Switch. I'm impressed they didn't just patch it out.
@greghillmusic
@greghillmusic 16 күн бұрын
This is the master... your argument is invalid as final levels should be identical.
@LETTMusic
@LETTMusic 16 күн бұрын
@@Graslu00 It's been awhile since I played, does the game have audio settings in the pause menu/main menu to adjust levels of music from SFX separately?
@M0HAK0
@M0HAK0 17 күн бұрын
Wow this switch port looks awful. That one level with the blur effect literally looks unplayable. So glad emulation scene at least attempts to make things better. Thanks for the upload!
@TummyTimeTimmy
@TummyTimeTimmy 17 күн бұрын
Another Nintendo banger. What an embarrassing company.
@papayer
@papayer 15 күн бұрын
I was laughing seeing the broken dizzy screen effect, but the insane input lag and shooting causing the framerate to drop are 100% deal breakers. Garbage port, as usual with Shitendo.
@thegamegrump2825
@thegamegrump2825 17 күн бұрын
When I was watching ray playing mario party with his friends on the switch alot of lag but when they were playing on emulator no lag and clean, why can nintendo get that right.
@DHCNetwork06
@DHCNetwork06 17 күн бұрын
and that's why I would rather stick with the XBLA version. way superior
@goldeneyeforevercom
@goldeneyeforevercom 2 күн бұрын
It's not authentic. It's modified. All things are not equal to the original. Seems like that doesn't matter to a lot of people. Not everyone has to think the same.
@LucioBlackwine
@LucioBlackwine 15 күн бұрын
We need conker bad fur day
@Nicolasviillamar
@Nicolasviillamar 16 күн бұрын
Me quedé con las ganas de jugar online; sabes cómo se puede jugar online en el Port para PC? Ayuda 🆘
@Graslu00
@Graslu00 15 күн бұрын
Busca mi directo de netplay de Perfect Dark. Ahí en la descripción hay un pequeño tutorial.
@Nicolasviillamar
@Nicolasviillamar 15 күн бұрын
@@Graslu00 gracias amigo
@KylarTyphlosion
@KylarTyphlosion 17 күн бұрын
Ive seen better emulation on potato pc's. At this point if anyone wants pd on the go thay should save up for something like an rog or a steam deck. The latter being my preferred way cus of the gyro
@blackhalo117
@blackhalo117 16 күн бұрын
As always, doing gods work Graslu
@WIldXIII
@WIldXIII 16 күн бұрын
It's not just raw, it's still frozen! That blur effect upset me deeply but the multiplayer footage was actually hilarious with how bad it was.
@ZabaTV
@ZabaTV 16 күн бұрын
I laughed when I noticed it was configured to 4:3 instead of 16:9 by default. Like what? Omg that blurry thing!
@NaldinhoGX
@NaldinhoGX 17 күн бұрын
Welcome to the newest episode of: Huge companies not being able to comprehend how to emulate their own games, pt. 203921501935...
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 16 күн бұрын
But I thought they hate Emulation😅
@drkilledbydeath87
@drkilledbydeath87 17 күн бұрын
Lower sound quality.... Than the heavily compressed N64 version. How????
@LETTMusic
@LETTMusic 16 күн бұрын
If you gain match the volume of both sides, it's the same quality. Quieter is not less quality, they just started with a misrepresentation of audio quality.
@M1XART
@M1XART 15 күн бұрын
It's partly due that N64 was very strong streaming directly from cartridge, so that even music was a part of interactive experience.
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