PERFECT PHYSICALS STRIKER vs. PERFECT MENTALS STRIKER | FM24 Simulation

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Clayts

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24 күн бұрын

Football Manager 2024 | I CREATED TWO PERFECT STRIKERS IN FM24
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In this video, I created two rival strikers in FM24, both by the name of Max. For Celtic, we have Max Mentals who has 10s for all of his attributes, but 20s for mental attributes. For Rangers, we have Max Physicals, who has - you guessed it - 10s for all of his attributes, but 20s for physical attributes. (There is also a lesser-spotted 3rd rival, playing for Hearts called Max Technicals...). In the video, I simulate the 17 year careers of our strikers and compare their results.
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@pavfm6797
@pavfm6797 22 күн бұрын
Great idea... Wonder how the dad's would do as managers.... Max Mental vs Max Coaching vs Max Knowledge!
@MisterTomox
@MisterTomox 22 күн бұрын
Maximilian or Maximus surely?
@CFO86
@CFO86 22 күн бұрын
DU DU DU DU MAX VERSTAPPEN 🗣🗣🗣
@saoirsedeltufo7436
@saoirsedeltufo7436 22 күн бұрын
A striker with max physicals, midfielder with max mentals and defender with max technicals would be interesting
@MackeyD3
@MackeyD3 22 күн бұрын
Max Mentals probably should have been a CAM. Having such limited physicals as the main ST will be a bigger impact than at AM
@TheH3LLP3R
@TheH3LLP3R 22 күн бұрын
That's kinda the whole point of the video...
@jaygotgame1731
@jaygotgame1731 21 күн бұрын
you’d be surprised, but at almost every single position, physicals will win. The only attribute group that will give it competition is technicals. Mentals almost always fall on the lower side of experiments.
@kirintoudou3366
@kirintoudou3366 9 күн бұрын
physicals are important for every single role, reduce KDB pace by 5 and his output is lowered by a lot even with roles that lie to you that physicals aren't as important , FM is one of the few games where DEVS are lying to you .
@Donjic1999
@Donjic1999 22 күн бұрын
Maybe midfield would be a more fair comparison between mentality and physicality. Its hard to imagine the strongest, fastest, tallest, and most agile player in the world not dominating as a forward as long as he has somewhat conpetent attributes elsewhere.
@askefn
@askefn 22 күн бұрын
As a cm mentality would win i reckon. Vision, decisions, work rate etc
@Madeguydo
@Madeguydo 18 күн бұрын
​@@askefnacceleration and pace are still the best for midfield regardless of tactics and roles, in my experience if you have 100 current ability players with 17+ pace and acceleration you can easily win any league
@askefn
@askefn 18 күн бұрын
@@Madeguydo no. pace wont matter if its a dlp or a anchor
@Madeguydo
@Madeguydo 18 күн бұрын
@@askefn 'Pressing is king. The reason speed and acc kill everything else in the attribute tests is because they're the #1 best way to improve your pressing effectiveness. Not only does the ball presser arrive sooner, but all his teammates will rotate quicker behind him. ' Roles do not matter, the only thing that matters to the match engine is the 50-50 calculations on wether you have the upper hand in getting the ball or not, and the only important attributes for such an event is pace and acceleration, no matter the role or anything in a fluid gegenpress tactic (even the default one with no tweaks is meta af apparently) everyone rotates until you get the ball. Search for "FM ARENA Should you follow the highlighted attributes of the roles?" on google and you'll find out i'm right
@michaelh878
@michaelh878 18 күн бұрын
​@@askefnYou are insane if you think pace doesn't matter for a dip or anchor.
@0M0rty
@0M0rty 22 күн бұрын
7:20 Newgens, especially strikers, tend to generate with really low concentration these past few FM's. I think this is SI's idea of balancing that low starting concentration, having players develop it like crazy.
@Clayts
@Clayts 22 күн бұрын
That makes sense
@faizmukti117
@faizmukti117 22 күн бұрын
I know this is just a fun experiment but to confirm which attribute set is the best, all other variables must be the same (tactics, teammates attributes, league's players abilities, freeze the striker's attributes, etc.) Good video ideas though 😊
@AutisticlySpeaking
@AutisticlySpeaking 20 күн бұрын
this..
@Andles
@Andles 22 күн бұрын
I was expecting Physical > Mental > Technical but I didn't think the difference would be THAT huge 😂
@najuralp02
@najuralp02 22 күн бұрын
I am too
@paulathekoala1699
@paulathekoala1699 22 күн бұрын
It would be fun to see a team of max physicals vs a team of max technicals vs a team of max mentals all in a league
@michaelh878
@michaelh878 18 күн бұрын
Physicals would win each game about 10-0. They'd probably score 4 goals just from set pieces each game.
@XPL80
@XPL80 22 күн бұрын
Maybe freezing attributes next test? Regarding final question, I really think it depends how you are playing. An extremely low tempo tactic may benefit more from mentals or technicals, but any tactic willing to exploit the space behind the defense, even a little, will favor the physicals for sure.
@dumhd_jay488
@dumhd_jay488 18 күн бұрын
Question where is those newgan ai faces from? Those look amazing
@LainiWeiz
@LainiWeiz 22 күн бұрын
Dunno why but for some reason I expected Mentals to do better but I thought it'd be close. I think 20 Natural Fitness goes a long way in keeping those physicals up in to "old" age.
@Ren_1986
@Ren_1986 22 күн бұрын
Cheers for this clayts great vid. Would love a role comparason for seasons, which do better, like wing back and full back, advance forward and another role, ball playing def vs central def, something in midfield too like mezz vs b2b
@lugo1465
@lugo1465 22 күн бұрын
One important thing is how they are training as well. I usually play gegenpress in my saves, so I have a bunch of physical training. I'm not sure this is a normal thing or if its related to more physical training, but physicals are easy to develop for my players so I usually go after youth prospects with good technical and mental rather than physicals.
@gordonkilner8611
@gordonkilner8611 20 күн бұрын
You should do this experiment again, but in different positions. It would be interesting to see how the attributes affect each position and whether their grown changes. It could be a series of videos for your channel.
@Eldriitch
@Eldriitch 21 күн бұрын
For a similar suggestion, it would be nice to know which of the two columns is more important for GKs -- maybe it won't make much difference if the GK-specific stats are the same but it would be interesting to know how much the other stats matter.
@tomhinds4380
@tomhinds4380 22 күн бұрын
Also quick question, as you have the in game editor why didn't you freeze attributes? Just wondering the thought process
@lu502k
@lu502k 8 күн бұрын
interesting. you would think a guy in real life with an incredible mental profile would improve his overall game more over time than the guy who is basically just an incredible athlete
@bamg7678
@bamg7678 22 күн бұрын
I think it's more a case of which set of attributes have the most "key" attributes. The physicals have pace, agility, jumping reach, natural fitness, strength that I think exponentially increase a player's performance in-game. While the mentals are not per-say "needed" for a player to succeed, what I mean is that a striker could have 5 composure or 5 off the ball and with the right attributes still score 30+ goals a season.
@Jay-ds8th
@Jay-ds8th 22 күн бұрын
Love the portraits how did you get them like that, is it the skin or just pics?
@henrykravitz468
@henrykravitz468 22 күн бұрын
I agree with you regarding physical stats are most important
@airynod
@airynod 14 күн бұрын
That's why when people on the reddit talking about the "meta" stats, I was saying it is mental attributes that is busted, not physical stats.
@notbeluga1960
@notbeluga1960 19 күн бұрын
As a striker it also depends ifthey play alongside good players that'll benefit them accordingly. Physically itsbenfits target man poacher and alos out wide as wingers or wide forward. Mentally it would benefyt a team playing possesion and a striker who would partake in decisions making for the team like deep lying forward or advance playmaker sort of role
@bill_benjamin
@bill_benjamin 22 күн бұрын
You probably know this but FMRTE would allow you to have much more control over the development (or non-development in this case) of the attributes because you can freeze specific things. Even individual attributes.
@Clayts
@Clayts 22 күн бұрын
Yeah I’m not a fan of using third party editors, and I wanted the attributes to develop/change. The idea that the physicals would decrease with age, whilst the mentals would increase is something I actively wanted. As the idea is to use the learnings to decide which strikers to buy in a regular game, e.g. I'm going to choose the young striker with the physicals, even though the mentals are lacking.
@bill_benjamin
@bill_benjamin 20 күн бұрын
@@Clayts figured as much and the video was great! All your stuff is great! I am a big fan of FMRTE because it allows me to sort out things that I find unrealistic in the game that I can't in the in game editor. ❤️
@bentarbuck6161
@bentarbuck6161 22 күн бұрын
i feel like this would have been better if their CA was locked. physicals developed way more than mentals did so mentals never stood a chance against 13 finishing and 20 concentration
@pyrometricrs9151
@pyrometricrs9151 22 күн бұрын
I'd be interested to see a slightly different version if the baseline stats were 12 rather than 10? I feel like that having base 12's would mean they are not overcoming such a deficit and maybe you could get a purer comparison between the two?
@Gindtis
@Gindtis 20 күн бұрын
*Having not actually watched full video yet* Me - "Oh Max Mentals as a striker, isn't that basically Thomas Muller up top?"
@cihs88
@cihs88 Күн бұрын
You should make the same while giving players ability to play anywhere. That way you can see when you have max something where managers choose to play you. Also to do the test, you should create very balanced teams. If a team has messi, it is normal forward scores more. While with Ronaldo, other strikers will play less.
@anardi7112
@anardi7112 22 күн бұрын
I played with Max Mentals in my save with Rotherham. He was pretty good. Sold him to Hoffenheim for £11m. Used that to buy Mbappe. What skin do you use?
@ummelhoreu1690
@ummelhoreu1690 22 күн бұрын
Bro bought mbappe in Rotherham 💀
@Ren_1986
@Ren_1986 22 күн бұрын
And for 11mill? I feel like this is a bot lol​@@ummelhoreu1690
@lordy6666
@lordy6666 16 күн бұрын
Mbappe at the worst place in England 😂
@yxngboyfv
@yxngboyfv 22 күн бұрын
Ahh, bro knew we were gonna ask for a player with max technicals😂. That was the first thing I was thinking about commenting when the video started.💀🙏😭
@andrewshearer9218
@andrewshearer9218 10 күн бұрын
It’s totally fair due to them being 3rd right now but I’m super pissed off at Max Tech not playing for Aberdeen 😢
@breeeee8252
@breeeee8252 22 күн бұрын
Max Mentals kinda remind me of Totti, seeing those stats for Celtic.
@user-eg9fc2yd3c
@user-eg9fc2yd3c 21 күн бұрын
Should of done a Max hidden player as well
@alanwm1986
@alanwm1986 21 күн бұрын
I think you should then in 3 different positions (all the same county) playing for the same club in a lower league and see how far they can get their club in a set amount of years ...
@danielfersbeanto7942
@danielfersbeanto7942 16 күн бұрын
I want to comment before the experiment conclude , I pause the video and here is my tought, I will root for the perfect physical as he can overrun, overjump, win with his strength and never runs out of fuel, does not matter what his other attributes, especially as everything else are set to 10 which is a pretty neutral (not bad value) he will thrive
@Lightflames85
@Lightflames85 22 күн бұрын
I think you need everything in a striker but there is a few that is more important than others like teamwork and off the Ball and keeping cool with the Ball.
@michaelh878
@michaelh878 18 күн бұрын
Irl yes, in fm, no.
@Lightflames85
@Lightflames85 18 күн бұрын
@@michaelh878 I just played him 3 seasons and he did not hit over 20 goals a season. That is a bad striker in my book.
@kirintoudou3366
@kirintoudou3366 9 күн бұрын
- skill issue , use meta tactic that gets the most out of a striker with meta attributes and will be scoring 70 a season with ease .
@peterkramer886
@peterkramer886 21 күн бұрын
Wow. This video is mental
@tfcheng83
@tfcheng83 10 күн бұрын
I noticed their personality are different - Driven vs Professional. Any impact?
@itsmejim3033
@itsmejim3033 17 күн бұрын
If you want to test your theory, just build 3 teams where they all have max mental, technical and physical attributes.
@ToluwanimiOlulode
@ToluwanimiOlulode 22 күн бұрын
Who would love it if he did this for every position? ❤ love this video.
@robertdanacica3979
@robertdanacica3979 14 күн бұрын
what facepack is that man, looks amazing
@wristbreak
@wristbreak 22 күн бұрын
I heard the sim engine is different to the game play engine. Would be interesting to see if the results would change if the games were played for a season or two
@Clayts
@Clayts 22 күн бұрын
Yeah that’s a fair point. My experience is that physicals are even more impactful in the match engine
@jackluo6019
@jackluo6019 22 күн бұрын
That face pack though 🔥
@macaco3001
@macaco3001 17 күн бұрын
You made the physicals player have better professionalism which helped massively in improving faster, you should have evened them out
@Flippityflap
@Flippityflap 22 күн бұрын
if physical attributes would matter most wouldnt akinfenwa and brian brobbey would be top strikers in every save? and lukaku
@soundsasleep01
@soundsasleep01 22 күн бұрын
Could you do the same but with CB’s?
@stephentaylor6617
@stephentaylor6617 22 күн бұрын
Paused the video at 5:13. Pace is so overpowered in the FM24 match engine that Max Physical should turn out to have the best career.
@nilotpaldhakal
@nilotpaldhakal 20 күн бұрын
You should do All Prime Messi XI vs All Prime Ronaldo XI
@Lionheart_89
@Lionheart_89 22 күн бұрын
Mate how do u put them faces in ?
@gerrystarkiller269
@gerrystarkiller269 21 күн бұрын
I think all 12 would have been more balanced, 10 it's really below Avg and can impact a lot
@EnormeEkoH
@EnormeEkoH 22 күн бұрын
Imagine: Advanced forward 20 acceleraration 20 pace 20 off the ball
@ctfdv
@ctfdv 22 күн бұрын
Little CR7 Jr easter egg at 16:05 👀
@thomassnape1237
@thomassnape1237 22 күн бұрын
I think it will be max physical but I got a feeling max technical will steal the show
@saoirsedeltufo7436
@saoirsedeltufo7436 22 күн бұрын
Ahhhh yes Physicals, a good protestant surname that!
@gibbo7247
@gibbo7247 21 күн бұрын
what about a team with a perfect keeper and defnce a team with the perfect midfield and a team with perfect forwards see who wins
@Speedinnit
@Speedinnit 22 күн бұрын
We need more Clayts ❤My prediction is Max Mentals btw
@Speedinnit
@Speedinnit 22 күн бұрын
Well this aged well
@michaelpryimachyk9456
@michaelpryimachyk9456 20 күн бұрын
Actually, it is how it works in real football. In youth academies physical gems have more chances to become a pro and then catch up with a mental growth (of course if you are not an absolute tree and your tech ability is at least mediocre).
@Adi-R_Singh89
@Adi-R_Singh89 21 күн бұрын
What's happened to your DOF save 😮?
@saxus1101
@saxus1101 20 күн бұрын
Celtic already have Max Physicals his name is Daizen Maeda
@omosolaosobajo5947
@omosolaosobajo5947 22 күн бұрын
My prediction: Max Physicals would be the best of the 3 Max Brothers
@yehorkrut9933
@yehorkrut9933 21 күн бұрын
Great video, but why would you lock them in one club. Won’t it be more interesting to see how they would perform in different clubs and leagues?
@Clayts
@Clayts 21 күн бұрын
I decided it would be much easier to compare if they were in comparable settings. Say one of them got bought by Man City and never played them because haaland was ahead of them, that’s not helpful to us.
@davidreis5053
@davidreis5053 22 күн бұрын
Where did you get those faces?
@sweetpepino1907
@sweetpepino1907 15 күн бұрын
I REALLY wanna root for my boy Max Mentals. I choose to believe ball knowledge reigns supreme. Edit: uh oh Edit 2: 😭
@AlexWellbelove
@AlexWellbelove 21 күн бұрын
Posting my prediction before the video: Physicals becomes the best player in the world, mentals becomes an average premier league tier player. Physicals has a long career due to his high natural fitness, playing well into his 30s, while mentals retires a few years earlier. Will edit the comment to see if I'm correct! EDIT: I see technicals is a player too, I reckon he becomes about as good as mentals but still nowhere near physicals. Final EDIT: Well Physicals was the far better player, but didn't become quite as good as I predicted. Still a very interesting simulation!
@michaelh878
@michaelh878 18 күн бұрын
If he had even 12 or 13 heading he would have scored so many more.
@coco0847
@coco0847 22 күн бұрын
awsome,,
@tomhinds4380
@tomhinds4380 22 күн бұрын
Physicals to win as I think mental with physicals of all 10 will drag them down
@nicholasr.652
@nicholasr.652 15 күн бұрын
What face mod is that ?
@davidprovok2103
@davidprovok2103 22 күн бұрын
Surely max physicals should be a higher weight also
@niklaswestergaard5834
@niklaswestergaard5834 22 күн бұрын
i predict: Max Mentals
@ramadaniano
@ramadaniano 14 күн бұрын
16:06 Cristiano Ronaldo Jr?? 😲
@Sn0wy_TV
@Sn0wy_TV 21 күн бұрын
should have called him max muscles
@shoothevoidii5890
@shoothevoidii5890 22 күн бұрын
now do like me since fm exists.. only train physicals in youth
@kangwamngandu3671
@kangwamngandu3671 22 күн бұрын
I max Mentals that 20 workrate and determination
@leeclegg2943
@leeclegg2943 22 күн бұрын
Should Salah leave I don't think even Edwards will get £100m now I think it's more likely gonna be around £60-£70m the Saudis will just wait until his contract runs out
@_Nerdstalgia_
@_Nerdstalgia_ 22 күн бұрын
5:16 max physical
@Leicester_Ansulrua
@Leicester_Ansulrua 17 күн бұрын
Adama traore vs muller
@charlierhodes7271
@charlierhodes7271 21 күн бұрын
I think it'll be physicals
@gibbo7247
@gibbo7247 21 күн бұрын
max technical
@RishavSahaRimo
@RishavSahaRimo 22 күн бұрын
What about the hidden attributes?
@Clayts
@Clayts 22 күн бұрын
What about them? (They are identical)
@jajahbass
@jajahbass 17 күн бұрын
Unrealistic inputs gives you unreleastic outputs
@EatDrinkRide
@EatDrinkRide 22 күн бұрын
What this experiment proved the most .... is that player development is still horribly flawed in FM.
@remco9893
@remco9893 22 күн бұрын
Why didnt you freeze their attributes?
@Clayts
@Clayts 22 күн бұрын
Because i didn’t want to
@remco9893
@remco9893 22 күн бұрын
@@Clayts well fair enough i guess lol
@michaelmadu6426
@michaelmadu6426 22 күн бұрын
Please another Agent movie
@SN-ig2ml
@SN-ig2ml 22 күн бұрын
Physicals
@byod
@byod 21 күн бұрын
Hidden stats?
@omosolaosobajo5947
@omosolaosobajo5947 22 күн бұрын
First to view!! Hehee!
@abrahamojo-tirimi1105
@abrahamojo-tirimi1105 22 күн бұрын
Freeze attributes
@Clayts
@Clayts 22 күн бұрын
No
@najuralp02
@najuralp02 22 күн бұрын
Bye
@Clayts
@Clayts 22 күн бұрын
Cya
@najuralp02
@najuralp02 22 күн бұрын
@@Clayts hi
@broganmolloy6055
@broganmolloy6055 22 күн бұрын
Painful to watch as a Celtic fan
@thomasfalzon9479
@thomasfalzon9479 22 күн бұрын
Only just starting the video but where Max Technical?
@xter5967
@xter5967 22 күн бұрын
3:30
@thomasfalzon9479
@thomasfalzon9479 22 күн бұрын
Just got there 😂 ​@@xter5967
@seanpimblett9549
@seanpimblett9549 2 күн бұрын
Yeah and you have to show Celtic and Rangers from one of the worst leagues going… 😂😂😂
@v1adick
@v1adick 22 күн бұрын
hi bro, where did u generate these photos?
@simonbrown5081
@simonbrown5081 22 күн бұрын
Just shows how op physicals are, even with almost twice as many mental stats the physical one will always perform better in any outfield position.
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