Can we all agree that they are average and extremely boring, creatively barren, imaginationless bottom-of-the-barrel, by-the-numbers, NUMB-from-repetition, trash drummers that insult the appreciation that I (and numerous other people) have for the creativity and sheer joy of watching a good drummer, and drumming ourselves? ...yeah, sure.

your opinions bro lol

Frawtarius Get the fuck out man. Like seriously. In a band like Slipknot there is absolutely no room for creativity on the drums. They just have to be basic rhythms/grooves whicj are straight forward and hard hitting. That's because nothing else works for the music. And that's the one important thing that makes a drummer a good drummer. Playing FOR the music of your band not playing for yourself bybeeing a little showoff behind the kit. If you want complex drumming listen to Prog or Jazz-Fusion.

Supa Dupa Fly because they are

Frawtarius Can we all agree that your opinions generally are not welcome here and that you should delete your comment before a nasty flame war starts up?

hahaha shit

Thanks. Man and to be good at playing metal you have to be dedicated to it

have you ever listen to Dream Theater? a nightmare to remember is beaaautiful cheers mate!

+Ciso Mike Portnoy is something

mike mangini is something else(?) xd

Ciso sure he's awesome don't get me wrong but he's not the one who record Black Clouds And Silver Linings

I imagine Joey only has small shoes, he's practically a midget. Also I'd imagine that Jay could afford his own shoes and wouldn't need to have Joey's.

No one: Fan who is on drugs: we need to compare both of them we should not move on.

Callum Phillips sorry if don't get it but are you referring to me? tbh both Joey and Jay are awesome in their own way, no comparison

@@LordOfTerra I'm sober, Jay should become a cyclist and Joey should come back. Jay can only seem 2 petals anyways. Hi hat doesn't deserve that neglect.

@@Satan-nw4lv nah not you bud im on about the people who are idiots

Fr3akymet4l It's from him hitting the hi hat

no it moves by itself. just like cars steer themselves while on cruise control. everyone knows this

Hitting the hi hat

his high hat is on cruise control

wmgreen whoosh

Jay does more with less.

+Evil Not really. Its a completely different band and sound without Joey writing. Jay wouldn't have made the classics Joey did. Joey's writing was far more important than his drumming honestly.

DeezeRx They both suck.

TheNamelessYeti why are you even here then?

TheNamelessYeti Shut your beak and stop watching the video.

I get what you're saying about it being hard to replace Joey, I do. And by all means, this Jay fellow is a fantastic drummer, and he seems to be doing a great job in the band. But coming from someone who lost interest in Slipknot after IOWA, yet still finds both of those records to be worth listening to, I don't think he's the right guy for the job as far as style is concerned. Maybe he's perfect for Slipknot's post IOWA sound; I don't know, as I said before, I lost interest. But when I think about this guy playing their older songs, I have a hard time imagining him pulling off some of their drum patterns. I'm not right or wrong in saying that, and as of right now, I'm not even sure I stand by it because I'm judging the man after watching 3 or 4 videos of his drumming, and only two has actually been of him in Slipknot. Take David Silveria from Korn as an example: He gave Korn that tight, raw, almost ethnic vibe that his drumming style had in their earlier sound, and his departure was barely noticed. Ray Luzier, his replacement, not only replicated his drum sound, but expanded on it, and dare I say eclipsed it in almost every way possible. I'm not sure that I can say that about Jay Weinberg in relation to what Joey Jordison brought to the table in Slipknot. Is he a good drummer? Yes. Is he prolific? Possibly; his father sure is one of the best rock/big band drummers of all time. But is he the person to replace Joey? Apparently they think so. I'm just having a tough time seeing it. But again, this is an opinion that I have only developed in the last 20 minutes, and I'm willing to bet that I won't feel that way forever, but it's nice to get my thoughts out.

@@Ivegotwormsinme I think the true test for Jay will be in the upcoming album, which Corey is claiming will be reaching for heaviness that borders on Iowa's level. I personally think he did a pretty good job of Grey Chapter, but now I want to see what he can do with 4-5 years of touring behind him

I agree 100%

When I watch Jay play songs Joey recorded I get more excited. I think Jay brings more power and skill to the drums. I always thought Joey sounded like he was overplaying. Either way, people much more important to the band than any of us, picked Jay out of a field of candidates. Slipknot is big enough to choose just about anyone to play drums. Jay was chosen for a reason. Joey fans won’t ever truly accept Jay out of opinion, over fact of actual drumming skill.

Ivegotwormsinme Coming from someone who lost interest in Slipknot during IOWA i kinda understand and agree for what your saying about Jay. I guess that's normal that Jay dosen't play the old songs exactly like Joey. Diferent people,diferent feeling. He will never be Joey(in this prime,because he suck after), but he's becoming much better fiiling such big shoes. About Silveria,i totally disagree,as i think David was a big part in Korn unique sound back in the days and he was not so tight like you're saying. Ray overplays and kills almost every old song and probably too much tight for Korn,imo. Coming from someone who lost interest in Korn during Take a look in...Still bought See you on the other side,hoping things got any better,but it was to late for me.

Ok Dad

True

Life is not a Competition

@Unstoppable exactly i actually prefer jay

I agree stop the argument jay is equal talent to joey.

Check Alex Bent, he Is an awesome drummer.

Look at Danney Carey its not metal, but it takes way more skill than this.

Ganos Thenie He said endurance, not skill.

@@vincent-ow8ss He is metal

Lol!

Same here. Been waiting for this for a while now.

Same. And AOV means quite a lot to me as this is the first Slipknot song I ever heard.

First song on my gym playlist. Gets me pumped, right away!

I know me too! Everytime I hear it I get a raging bo.... wait, you mean excited don't you? I'll just see myself out of this thread... to rage on a different site if ya catch my drift.

It's one of my top fave Slipknot songs, it just wakes me up, especially when driving to work in the morning. Great song to start the day.

He's wearing a mask?

@@bendow5518 that's the joke bro

Why?

when I play this, my smart watch says I burn like 56 calories per 30 minutes of drumming. I usually stick to playing slipknot. I dont wear as much as him but I'm assuming he burns somewhere close to like 70 and above

TheDefeatest. Agreed when I’m done I’m sweaty and just plain fatigued. Usuall my legs burn and my arms are sore. Drumming is no joke especially if you take it seriously

@@ashenone5927 56 per 30 minutes? I burn 56 calories scratching my ass, you burn way more kid ..

spoken like a true 40 year old woman

It's very far to his left

His preference

I think it's just something a lot of metal drummers do because they're not usually playing a lot of closed hat or anything that needs crazy hat foot work or switching from double to hat. Gives them more room to set up their pedals have the hats a comfortable distance if need be. But he's also using a double kick setup, and some people don't like mounting their hi-hats to the kick or maybe don't have something close enough to mount it to.

derek motta it's part of slipknot's (and other metal bands too) sound.

When the hi hat is too close to the snare it bleeds into the snare mic which is something no one wants. seriously drummers need to space their shit out further. ESPECIALLY WITH THE GOD DAMN RIDE CYMBAL!

Is it normal to get neck cramps after watching a Knot performance?

@@dancingwiththedead6764 yes

Its AOV man)

haha

No, it’s aov

yes sir

+Cameron Foster No shit? I didn't know that. That's cool.

Wow I didn't know that

I can't belive he was like 7 or 8 years old when slipknot formed and now he's a member.

hes not yet a member

Santtu Pesonen yeah, it's like how Nicko McBrain of Iron Maiden has he ride tilted. Only Jay has off to the side, not in front of him.

Could be there because of mic issues. It may need to be far from certain things to not bleed into other microphones.

?????

He's grown up to Slipknot and now he plays with them, what's not inspirational about that?

yeah

Hope this is a joke

@@adammtroutman not as much of a joke as Joey

Tom Bagshaw drumming takes way more skill than golf so if golf a sport than drums mabye?

He even shakes his head at the end in disgust

Yea I noticed it too but it happens from time to time.

Sounds fine to me. You're hearing the kicks from the batter side through the camera mic, so if there's any difference in stroke power you'll hear it so it'll sound odd. Not to mention they play long sets and I am sure it can be tiring, they're people, not machines. And I am not sure when you think he "shook his head in disgust".

sometimes your legs and your brain don't click for a second.. specially at the end of the show when you're tired and just wanna get out of the stage. been there done that

Yeah I was gonna agree and say that it is a little dirty but I'd chalk that up to him being tired from a typical crazy slipknot show haha

yeah

Greg you wanna give him a happy ending

listen with headphones and you'll be able to hear the double kicks are kinda sloppy but that's only cause he doesn't use triggers so its got a different sound but you wouldn't be able to notice it being at the show

Sounds fine. People are used to hear all these edited drums these days. Even the best double bass players are not perfect!

on fast songs they are indeed.

Video is probably from awhile ago

"during a show last summer" he became an Evans endorsee not so long ago.

This video was taken from a gig back when he was still using Remo.

I also thought that

It was last summer stand tour! Meaning that he hasn't made the deal with evans yet

Élite War19 Joey Jordison 💪🏼

El tema que Joey componía muchas canciones y tenia mas incidencia en la banda.

Cara, tem muitos bateristas melhores, ele toca bem demais, mas pra falar que é o melhor éum certo exagero.

Yep.

Murillo Nonato seria ridículo comparar com o Joey gordaço de hoje,mas com o Joey no auge,o jay não teria chance...

Cezar Silva Acho os dois brilhantes..mas o pessoal idolatra mais o joey pq ele tinha umas habilidades extras como tocar insanamente em uma bateria de cabeça pra baixo por exemplo

That's why you need cocaine

Diego Merino lol are you fucking kidding me? Don’t sell yourself short dude. This guys decent at best

@@TheBrandonDawson And playing sold out shows while you play in your basement and talk shit on youtube

Jay não fica atrás