Perk questions Team USA's starting lineup 🗣️ + Kawhi Leonard's withdrawal mystery

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Kendrick Perkins and Zach Lowe join Malika Andrews on NBA Today to discuss their biggest questions for Team USA ahead of the Paris 2024 Olympics before hearing LA Clippers president of basketball operations, Lawrence Frank, blame USA Basketball for Kawhi Leonard's withdrawal.
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@leetraviusmckay314 Ай бұрын

"AD cleaning the glass like a fresh bottle of Windex" 😂

@QueenBrezzyXxIDGAF Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@FutureDreamZz Ай бұрын

@@QueenBrezzyXxIDGAFdo you stream?

@QueenBrezzyXxIDGAF Ай бұрын

@FutureDreamZz I use to years ago 😂

@Condell-CO2 Ай бұрын

Why go to the Olympic?

@SSJRome Ай бұрын

Yall think Joel Embiid decided to play for team USA and come off the bench lol 😂

@snupedummy Ай бұрын

Common sense has entered the chat

@reginaldbratton Ай бұрын

D wade came off the bench and lead the team in scoring too😂

@SSJRome Ай бұрын

@@reginaldbratton completely different

@user-sd6yq3sv6f Ай бұрын

It’s true tho AD has been coming off the bench and playing better. Plus if embid really wanted to be the starter bro should have just played for Cameroon. He just wanted a gold medal and pulled a KD

@SSJRome Ай бұрын

@@user-sd6yq3sv6f ??? Whether it was Cameroon or the US he’d still end up as a starter lol

@kaysheye7784 Ай бұрын

You guys said Kendrick is the reason Embiid won MVP, please keep the same energy now when he loses his starting spot to AD

@RJLKMRD Ай бұрын

Embiid was deserving of the MVP, and Jokic was deserving of his, enough of everything already..

@Criminal.Lawyer.2024 Ай бұрын

The only team that can beat team USA is team USA.

@corpyhogan4433 Ай бұрын

Exactly

@mannymanny3859 Ай бұрын

😂

@jikalcastro5355 Ай бұрын

Jokic gonna bully these niggas

@danielthompson3928 Ай бұрын

I still got the Celtics

@Criminal.Lawyer.2024 Ай бұрын

@@danielthompson3928 In case you didn't notice, we are talking about the Olympics.

@HKim0072 Ай бұрын

This is how Kerr operates. Goes with the standard lineup unless it’s really bad or critical win situations.

@michaelturley8222 Ай бұрын

Kendrick Perkins is dumb.

@besmorpheous Ай бұрын

The clippers didn’t pull out Kawhi , grant hill himself said it himself

@samlaw4018 Ай бұрын

So why invite him to pull him out...just doesn't make sense, but KD hasn't praticed and played a game

@besmorpheous Ай бұрын

@@samlaw4018 they made a choice , it was gonna be Kawhi or KD that got replaced , but grant hill picked Kawhi , something happened in that 3rd practiced which caused them to make the choice

@buddyboy4438 Ай бұрын

1. They dont want to deal with availability (or lack thereof) 2. KD at least has been playing these past 4 years. Lol 3. They need guards to defend other guards

@danielthompson3928 Ай бұрын

Grant said he made the decision “with” the Clippers. Grant Hill is a fraud. Screwed over Kawhi and the Clippers and JB.

@Earl_E_Burd Ай бұрын

Saving the big lineup. 1-LeBron, 2-Ant, 3-KD, 4-AD, 5-Bam/Embiid

@FutureDreamZz Ай бұрын

Tatum over ant

@Earl_E_Burd Ай бұрын

@@FutureDreamZz Oh yeah, that's right. Thanks

@KANEJackson-id2rx Ай бұрын

@@FutureDreamZzna. Ad embid and bam can’t be on the floor together. Who plays 3 guard

@user-ry2ly5qu2y Ай бұрын

bro you cant put embiid ad or bam in floor together they lack of big man while full of guards it has to be only one big man and many guards

@user-oy3xq5xn6k Ай бұрын

Curry on the bench in a Steve Kerr lineup?? 😂

@ericreid8111 Ай бұрын

Embiid needed to be home just riding the cardio bike. But at least he can use this camp for getting in shape

@sharifshabazz834 Ай бұрын

If you think AD is gonna be able to handle Jokic I got a bridge to sell you.

@guyoverthere3098 Ай бұрын

If you think Embiid is the guy for that specific job, I have bad news for you

@sharifshabazz834 Ай бұрын

@@guyoverthere3098 obviously you don't know ball my guy. Check the numbers out and get back to me

@nothembajozi2862 Ай бұрын

How much is it?

@sharifshabazz834 Ай бұрын

@@nothembajozi2862 write a number down and I'll let you know

@JohnStockton-ub2zc Ай бұрын

😂😂😂 This aged perfectly

@lajballin7113 Ай бұрын

Wish ad keep this energy throughout the season

@RADIOACTIVEYOUTH Ай бұрын

There’s a bias against Kawhi for being injured but guys like kd and Embiid get to get by with no criticism

@danielthompson3928 Ай бұрын

There’s been several times when the team’s medical staff disagrees with Kawhi’s claim of being injured. The other guys have injuries that show up on scans but Kawhi’s injuries are invisible.

@sharitarits9187 Ай бұрын

🎉he wants a trade, go to lakers kawhi

@Sethcollinsxc 26 күн бұрын

Not to mention glass Davis

@boblansonfig3972 Ай бұрын

I respect that yall trying to do as much as yall can to keep viewers and make these topics interesting . But let’s be serious .. at the end of the day when it comes down to it the USA will win gold . I’m not worried bro lol

@WaniThomas Ай бұрын

Not true. I think it was 2004. We got bronze. Thats when Kobe came back on team usa and won gold. It was the year Spain won gold

@r.m.90 Ай бұрын

Its not 2004, though so what's your point @WaniThomas

@WaniThomas Ай бұрын

@r.m.90 the point would that the person above assumes we will win gold every time. I gave him or her and you an example. Fact check me

@r.m.90 Ай бұрын

@@WaniThomas Except this team is better than any other team in the world currently so the comparison is illogical.

@WaniThomas Ай бұрын

@r.m.90 I didn't say they were going to lose this year 🤣🤣🤣. I just gave an example now fact check it and shut up

@Swaggyp50 Ай бұрын

They should start AD and Embiid

@Ant-Tee Ай бұрын

Clippers want him healthy so they can trade him don’t want him going over there pulling a injury card so he can’t get traded

@shakethedrummer2351 Ай бұрын

Having Embiid on USA starting 5 takes him away from the opposing team... it could be tactics

@Tiy51 Ай бұрын

What do you mean?

@buddyboy4438 Ай бұрын

France with Wemby AND Embiid might be LETHAL , they would eat everybody up in the paint + Embiid with a smaller 3pt line 😮😮

@buddyboy4438 Ай бұрын

Wemby can hit a 3pter or two when left open.

@shakethedrummer2351 Ай бұрын

@@buddyboy4438 agreed

@danielthompson3928 Ай бұрын

He’s slow. If he is bad for US he would be bad for France. Gobert is a defensive phenom.

@cjjames83 Ай бұрын

Team USA needs a boogie cousin in the paint

@Scar.Borough Ай бұрын

he was the best player last game , not the first game

@TellyWilliams-cz6ss Ай бұрын

Good ideal perk

@JourdanChaney Ай бұрын

I think AD and Bam are beneficial off the bench bring the energy

@KiwiKoNZ Ай бұрын

Serbia 🇷🇸 and maybe France 🇫🇷 are going to be the hardest opponents for USA 🇺🇸

@buddyboy4438 Ай бұрын

Canada/Austrailia have better overall teams, cant look past Spain

@KiwiKoNZ Ай бұрын

@@buddyboy4438 do you think Canada 🇨🇦 and Australia 🇦🇺 will dominate both Serbia 🇷🇸 and France 🇫🇷 or will it be the other way around?

@cedricnewmans7274 Ай бұрын

😂🧢

@BVINCENTKABAMBA Ай бұрын

We just beat Serbia few hours ago

@KiwiKoNZ Ай бұрын

@@BVINCENTKABAMBA yeah I know … LET’S GOOO USA!! 🎉✋🥳🤚🎉

@romanewilliams9563 Ай бұрын

It’s hard to find issues with a team when they look like they can’t loose. There’s no threat to team USA, it takes a team to win no one man show.

@laurentbfree Ай бұрын

AD walking over the defender after that dunk is just disrespectful lol

@renzoenzo7535 Ай бұрын

This USA team have 8 Legit Scorers Bron, Steph, KD, Embiid, Ant, JT, AD, Book

@user-sd6yq3sv6f Ай бұрын

Embid really pulled a move worse than KD to chase a Olympic medal. switching teams is one thing but COUNTRIES 😂

@kaysheye7784 Ай бұрын

How is it ring chasing? Was it ring chasing when Hakeem did it? Stop being xenophobic

@Hirtelen-pf1dp Ай бұрын

He could have played for France. Now that would have been interesting.

@joshuawoodard6998 Ай бұрын

Perk calling Embiid out of shape is crazy. Perk look like he ate Perk, but I agree. Wrong messenger.

@whooptywoo1399 Ай бұрын

None of these analysts are in top tier shape really so what your saying is silly we would rather a former pro talk about pros rather than a geek who never played a sport

@rodneytrigg8302 Ай бұрын

His retired why does he need to be in-game shape????

@NPAMike Ай бұрын

Why is team USA conforming the international game. I'd put AD in the starting lineup right next to Embiid.

@KyseThaGoat Ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly !

@mattk720 Ай бұрын

That would be such domination for those minutes...but they prob trying to stagger their minutes so one of the two is always available to be on the court...otherwise, the backups would be Bam at center and Tatum at PF. Personally, I think it would have been good if the US could have gotten one more legit PF/Center on the team.

@buddyboy4438 Ай бұрын

@@mattk720Jaren Jackon wouldve been great or PAOLO banchero

@buddyboy4438 Ай бұрын

Myles turner

@tree3e Ай бұрын

Because international game uses FIBA rules, not nba.

@Perfection212 Ай бұрын

Embiid should not have been inTeam USA on the first place.He is not American.USA was scared of him playing in France so USA lured him away from that team.Have some decency USA!

@QueenBrezzyXxIDGAF Ай бұрын

Same thing I was wondering too embiid isn't frm the us why is he on team USA he's not frm there but I believe they did say he grew up in the US and has family there 🤷🏾‍♀️ lol

@datboizeebozee_gotti3154 Ай бұрын

Well he graduated high school here got married and had his kid here so 🤷🏾‍♂️ that’s like saying Giannis should be playing for Nigeria instead of Greece

@cardiuswalker7068 Ай бұрын

Don't let Kawhi fool yall. After he got his extension and met the 65 game requirements, he magically got injured and didn't play anymore. $100 million 2 sit at home and do nothing. He's a genius!!!!

@danielthompson3928 Ай бұрын

AD, Bam, Bron, Ant, and Steph would be my starting lineup. I’m bringing Tatum, Jrue and Book off my bench primarily. I’d play Embiid, Hali, and D. White in garbage minutes. I think KD should call it quits.

@DavidPavlovich2 Ай бұрын

Poor defense in the paint ineffective bigs. Sounds like the warriors 😂😂😂

@peterpileggi3664 Ай бұрын

steve kerr is a terrible coach

@Ogole-oye Ай бұрын

Joel is too sluggish and slow... AD is deserving a spot in the starting line up.

@ashenafiwolde8982 Ай бұрын

I hope usa loses. You can't call someone to the Olympic and then tell me he can not play because it is for the best interest for him. Kawhi is healthier than Joel. It is media... Stephen A Smith running his mouth and taking away Someone's dreams. It is a practice for usa. Kawhi would have helped them - all he needs is 5 minutes...

@MultiJayjack Ай бұрын

yep.. something is odd asf about this situation.

@kevkeisha Ай бұрын

If THIS team USA doesn't win gold, it is going to be a major disaster for US basketball, and a major "we've arrived" statement for international basketball. Almost HALF of the top 10 players in the NBA are international players!

@jamesdiaz2047 Ай бұрын

WHY IS EVERYONE LYING ABOUT JOEL EMBIID! What is the deal for the love of god! This dude is out of shape, injured and shouldn’t be playing. This dude has been playing injured half his career and he shouldnt even be here. He’s now going to blow the post season again and will hand the East to the Celtics or the Knicks. This has got to be a PR move so he can get media spots showing a West African player in the NBA representing America and further pushing for the African NBA agenda. Thoughts?

@sedohema Ай бұрын

You're whole comment was just for you to mention the knicks. Lmfao hahahahahahahahahaha

@sedohema Ай бұрын

I see what you did, the cowboys of the NBA

@jamesdiaz2047 Ай бұрын

@@sedohema not even a Knicks fan. But they do look good though. But nah man, cmon why are we doing this. This dude is a post season bust every year! Someone please show me a post season he played at 100% or even without an injury.

@sedohema Ай бұрын

@@jamesdiaz2047 suuuuuuuuuure

@jacoblentz7305 Ай бұрын

Sounds like you're a racist.

@2ktv346 Ай бұрын

I got a name for this team: the Transition team...OGs leading the new faces

@curtisfreeman4775 Ай бұрын

EMBIID decided to participate at 65% rather than healing up and being ready for the 76ers, SMH

@renzoenzo7535 Ай бұрын

Gold Medal is Gold Medal 🥇 He can still rest after Olympics

@KingKukajames33 Ай бұрын

Just start: for offense in medal Game: Embiid Lebron KD Tatum Steph Then sub them with Bam AD Ant Booker Jrue White and Hali will have the filler roles 3rd or 4th option when needed depends on the opponent or when its a blowout already. If KD can't play just switch him with Tatum and Jrue.

@1stSportsGuru Ай бұрын

I personally think Kawhi is treated differently from all other players st that level. I dont think that's fair, not withstanding his injury concerns. There are others with injury concerns as well, who hasn't come close to his level of achievement or play. Stephen A Smith is a prime example of unmitigated bias and hate on Kawhi's path and unmitigated bias and love on the path of especially Embiid, but also KD

@lakerlife9817 Ай бұрын

AD OUT THERE!!! BEST THING FOR THE LAKERS!!!

@therealfinancipation Ай бұрын

Ppl keep talking about how good Serbia is and Ppl clowning America for having the Aussies down by 27 and then only beating Australia by 6, Well that Australian team beat Serbia by 10

@scibb798 Ай бұрын

as a 76ers fan, this is just early szn embiid, he sucks for the first couple weeks, just let him get fit

@calikev7 Ай бұрын

USA is a solid 3 place team.

@r.m.90 Ай бұрын

Clippers org lying again? No way.

@startedfromscratch1529 Ай бұрын

Haven't lost a game. Blew out The Joker and we complaining about who should be starting. We just bored at this point

@maxkamper7451 Ай бұрын

AD doing nothing man 😂😂😂

@nerffej Ай бұрын

Just say you haven’t watched the games

@DD-sr9xm Ай бұрын

It’s a boondoggle. All these old legends raised their hand for these Olympics for a free summer holiday in France. They are going there to drink expensive wine and shop at LV. Yeah they will win, but it will be just like these exhibition games, they will exert the least effort necessary to win.

@collinstinashemare3515 Ай бұрын

I dont watch first take unless i see SAS, Unc or Big Perk🙂

@joshsimpson1758 Ай бұрын

only one person comes to mind perk? really?

@r.m.90 Ай бұрын

Embiid shouldn't even be on the team first off. Dude is shameless.

@Thecoolincredibles Ай бұрын

Bro we got 3 of the best players to ever do it, with all other players being top 25.. ain’t no way this team loses unless they implode on themselves.

@Hirtelen-pf1dp Ай бұрын

Luck can do its part too. These arent series, one bad shooting night, or one hot streak by an opponent and you are out.

@Thecoolincredibles Ай бұрын

@@Hirtelen-pf1dp agreed. Which is why I said “only way we lose is if they implode”

@nedkelly5688 Ай бұрын

Yeah but Kendrick Perkins averaged like 6 points

@mrpopo5097 Ай бұрын

France lost to Serbia, Serbia lost to Australia, USA beat both Canada and Australia.

@TheRealJoe25 Ай бұрын

I wished I liked Malika but I just can't do it. She doesn't seem like a genuine person at all. Mannerisms all seem pre calculated. Is it just me?

@caelevstephan4283 Ай бұрын

you gotta say we when referring to team usa… otherwise you look like you have alterior motives

@trawwilson400 Ай бұрын

Perk ekrs me sometimes lol

@sharitarits9187 Ай бұрын

Durant just sit there and look scary

@Earl_E_Burd Ай бұрын

Who would you rather as a coach: Kendrick Perkins or Steve Kerr?

@martavioustisby4942 Ай бұрын

Steve Kerr

@user-vu7hg1sq4y Ай бұрын

The same Play every play by NBA players. Passing to the Three and dribble pass

@buddyboy4438 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@buddyboy4438 Ай бұрын

The occasional dunk if they dont get the 3

@mattk720 Ай бұрын

I think team USA coulda used another big...I would considered Miles Turner for that spot...can rebound, block and is nice from 3

@stevenhadad2351 Ай бұрын

They have 3 bigs lol

@mattk720 Ай бұрын

@@stevenhadad2351 I thought 1 more would be good since they say the international teams tend to be stacked in that position. And that way they always have the option to go with a double big man line up if they choose. Also, Embiid is not as mobile right now (due to injury I guess), so having an extra big who can defend and do dirty work wouldn't hurt. Just my opinion.

@stevenhadad2351 Ай бұрын

@mattk720 yea i think embiid will be just fine when the games count

@mattk720 Ай бұрын

@@stevenhadad2351 yeah, hope so. He still got more time to ramp up at least.

@stevenhadad2351 Ай бұрын

@mattk720 id perfer if he didnt play at all i dont want him taking ANY chance of getting hurt especially with the moves we made in the off season ..but maybe him winnin the gold will help him get further in the nba playoffs once he gets a little taste of being 1st

@nicholaseaster58 Ай бұрын

Embiid looks out of shape, hurt and washed all at the same time. Now or never for Philly.

@kaysheye7784 Ай бұрын

he's not washed, just coming off injury, probably will come off the bench for USA anyways

@reteipdevries Ай бұрын

Lebron Steph and Kerr decide. Not Mr Perk.

@jamesrobinson1557 Ай бұрын

Slow news day huh? WTH...They just started a week ago. Kerr is trying different lineup and combinations to see what works! Let's face it. No matter what the team does one of you is going to have something negative to say! They only won by 10! Kerr needs to do this or that, like one of you has nine championships! LOL

@markg911 Ай бұрын

lawrence frank just lost all his credibility.

@Scamhater007 Ай бұрын

Joel Emflop I mean Embitsh I mean Embiid aka "The Prolapse" I mean "The process" is out of shape. We know he joined the USA team to steal a medal and win somethings besides the sympathy MVP he got.

@Scoutsquad45 Ай бұрын

USA Basketball 🇺🇸 🏆

@vonniemack94 Ай бұрын

LeBron ant Tatum kd n AD

@samuelodoi5545 Ай бұрын

Missed kendrick perkins so entertaining to watch

@AlexanderTh3First Ай бұрын

Kendrick my guy getting corny with these lines ngl

@prophfit5440 Ай бұрын

Ima just say dis Curry Kd Bron Ad (his natural spot of the 4 anyway) And embid

@trawwilson400 Ай бұрын

Man this is a team that had never played together and they doing this already lol perk is rite bench Joel bruh im sorry slim is not for this line up lls like fr 🤣

@MichelobX Ай бұрын

Kawhi is done, no one cares... Embid always looks out of shape and Bronny James is not an NBA player.

@ajbianchi85 Ай бұрын

Curry Edwards Tatum Lebron AD

@ThriveAliveJoshua Ай бұрын

Nahh..no Supreme Team. They were already termed the Avengers!

@buddyboy4438 Ай бұрын

That sounds cool , but you gotta rhyme .. Dream, Redeem, Supreme

@buddyboy4438 Ай бұрын

If anything that redeem team should be the Avengers .

@ThriveAliveJoshua Ай бұрын

@@buddyboy4438 , Supreme Team reminds me of Burrito Supreme, Taco Bell

@alex4863 Ай бұрын

Lol Embiid/ Simmons is the biggest scams of modern NBA

@UnconventionalReasoning Ай бұрын

Lawrence Frank: "He looked good to me" [6:45] is why the Clippers suck. Clearly a poor judge of player's actual ability when affected by their health.

@stephonadair5931 Ай бұрын

King James the European conqueror 🤴🏿 07, Dirk 2011, 14, and WarriorSpurs mean nothing 😭. Giannis Luka Jokic my guys but they better watch they back i’m USA 🇺🇸

@stephonadair5931 Ай бұрын

Wemby to he really is a San Antonio Spur Europe has no boundaries it’s a take over

@stephonadair5931 Ай бұрын

If there’s no CP3 to the spurs Wemby best bet would be Lamelo who played overseas and Charlotte… i say CURRY & LEBRON. UNC help Jordan get 9💍 let’s stop the take over They’ll Both have 7 as a player. Steve Kerr has 9 😐

@1stSportsGuru Ай бұрын

Let's agree that Kawhi shouldn't be on tesm USA in the first place. Would y'all also agree that Embiid and KD shouldn't be there for the same reasons, or are those comparisons not comparable!!!! Either way, share your thoughts

@Hirtelen-pf1dp Ай бұрын

Kawhi still one of the best on that roster. I`d take him over any of the starters.

@melovibezz Ай бұрын

Does kawaii still get a medal 🥇 if usa wins??

@buddyboy4438 Ай бұрын

No😂😂😂

@adebowale065 Ай бұрын

Hell No😂😂

@Nostalgia9478 Ай бұрын

LeTatumBRICK definitely should NOT be starting

@rejohnmurguia12 Ай бұрын

🎉

@DC-cw4mj Ай бұрын

Perk has never sniffed Olympic or international tournaments, please have an analyst with experience in these areas comment on the international rules and plays.

@jaybuen9545 Ай бұрын

Well, that would be called common sense, and these networks don't have that sadly.

@Dj252king Ай бұрын

Well apparently ESPN thinks Perk is an expert cuz he is an NBA champion despite the fact that he averaged 7 points off the bench😂

@wendellwright2519 Ай бұрын

@@Dj252kingI believe he was a starter

@Dj252king Ай бұрын

@@wendellwright2519 in 2008?

@Dj252king Ай бұрын

@@wendellwright2519 yeah my fault ur right

@jaybuen9545 Ай бұрын

She consistently has some of the worst takes.

@AK-pz7om Ай бұрын

Yaounde born Embiid needs to be playing for Cameroon lmao

@kaysheye7784 Ай бұрын

You don’t even know the state of the Cameroon Federation

@AK-pz7om Ай бұрын

@@kaysheye7784 all I know is that he shouldn’t be on team USA lol

@kaysheye7784 Ай бұрын

@@AK-pz7om he can be if he wants, it's his decision

@2eazy536 Ай бұрын

So everybody. What are ya’ll starting 5? (Please ubiased and based on a good balance)

@kaleb324 Ай бұрын

this is gonna be scorching hot but anyways, steph ant jt davis bam. this is assuming kd is out.

@Hirtelen-pf1dp Ай бұрын

AD, Durant, Tatum, Jrue, Curry

@PMP-df9vg Ай бұрын

😳

@Justicehillmusic Ай бұрын

This is dumb

@sharifshabazz834 Ай бұрын

I despise this show. Perk is a fraud and so is Zach Lowe'

@austingadsden13 Ай бұрын

Embiid is always worse in the beginning when he comes back from a break. He gets better with every game. Embiid destroys AD and Jokic every matchup. Jokic destroys AD. Think toward the future. You who say to bench embiid after two games would just be horrible coaches.

@Solo2121 Ай бұрын

Embiid only plays Jokic at home. When his role players are playing their best. And destroys is still strong. Jokic is a much better player than Embiid especially when you remove all of the bs calls that the NBA gives Embiid.

@austingadsden13 Ай бұрын

@@Solo2121 Jokic is one of the best passers ever. He affects the team so well because he's too big and good for modern centers to guard. But Embiid does guard him pretty well. So his passing is somewhat mitigated against Embiid. Jokic simply can't guard Embiid. The home/away thing may be a factor but I don't think that big. Sixers have had horrible role players. Embiid foul baits because the NBA is soft and calls super soft offensive fouls on him when he plays big. He adapts to the softness of the NBA. Embiid has improved a lot as a passer. His health is his knock.

@stevenhadad2351 Ай бұрын

@@Solo2121 jokic def isnt more dominant then joel tho and that makes joel more dangerous ...dude scored a 70 piece in 3 quarters with wemby defending him..yea joker might make the smarter play but joels the most dominant player since shaq