FlowerGrower Smith wow, was this at his early property?

Yes I guess so - I was about 3 or 4 so it would have been 1964 ish.. I used to play with his kids according to mum.

Bill Wilson thanks for the kind Words and donating! I don’t plan to disappoint ;)

Did the Creator want most of our land cleared for Ag? Did she want 8 billion people, 20 billion?

Wish I have land even just 1 acre

@bashful28 obviously that’s not what believes he follows if he is a steward of a permaculture forest 🙄 do not know anything about permaculture?

@@bashful228 He knows everyone's heart

@@nothingimportant1125 I wish that for you as well

Risa Craig thanks! Great to hear you enjoyed it so far

Thanks Pete, there's more to come!

Thanks Peggy! Great to hear you enjoyed it and for your generous support to help complete this chapter! Looking forward to it - Watch this space :)

Hey Matt, thanks mate!! Oh, sure that sounds cool. We are itching to get back out and continue shooting. Feel free to email us if I want to chat more. Info@dogsgowoof.com.au

Did it ever get finished?

Isnt Geoff the one who lives in the middle east now?

Thank you, so glad to hear you enjoyed it and best of luck with your studies! 🌱

Hey there, thanks for watching and Heey!

Max Daichi thanks you, great to hear u enjoyed it. U can help by sharing and donating if u would like to support the film.

Thank you and great to hear you enjoyed the film

oh wow, thank for picking that up. I better fix that, even though it is a great nickname

@@DogsGoWoofProductions Please leave it. Mistakes "often" are made as a lesson to everyone who learns of it, ideally, not just the maker/"perpetrator".

Merci pour les mots gentils. c'est fantastique d'entendre que vous l'avez apprécié. J'ai hâte de partager plus bientôt, une fois que covid sera de nouveau ok

i came to know about permaculture only a year ago, working on produce more from 1 hectare here in mexico, what are those factions you talk about?

Referring to the 2 camps of people who say that either Bill or David started Permaculture and the other made little to no actual contribution, instead of knowing that it was a joint effort between both parties.

Mostly Middle Class Wealthy people debating on metaphysics. Farmers don’t lose their time on this but try to figure out what works and what doesn’t. The Permaculture movement need to connect more with the agriculture sector, we need tools and knowledge sharing in between the most vulnerable and resource lacking sector of the population worldwide. Farmers! PC movement get on the ground please..

Thank you for watching. Great to hear you enjoyed the film

Ailton Pinheiro Santos it’s possible to translate the subtitles if you would be interested in creating Portuguese subs, let me Know

SoniaRose / thank you, great to hear you enjoyed the snippet

TITAN0402 I’m sorry to hear. I understand ur predicament and the reason I am creating this film is to give hope and solutions for ppl to use for an uncertain future, so hang in there

plant something, my friend

FaithBasedWorks yeah I plan on it almost everyday I think I’m just struggling aha but way to proud to ask for help. Time is precious. Just guna trodge on till I find the light again it’s like a walk in the dark right now. Thanks though for the reminder means allot.

That would have been quite an experience - lucky you got a chance to meet him.

Thank you for the feedback :)

With the country back in lock-down from corona-virus, unfortunately shooting has been suspended as one of the critical components of the film, but luckily we are resuming shooting in a few months of two side stories that can be shot in my home state, so we will have updates coming soon! I am sorry for the delay, but please be patient. Good things are coming!

I understand, this pandemic caught all of us with the guard down, but this documentary will be something awesome and will be released in the perfect moment in history...youll see.

@@MrX-st4kk Thank you. I really appreciate your support. Despite the set-back, this film will definitely be released.

Taking credit for ancient civilizational knowledge isnt new to west.

I see that too, but can also be thankfull for the movement because I ccan re-learn the concepts based on our ancient wisdom that we lost where I live. I am going theough a re-membering proces.

So what yo? The west created new wonders albeit atrocities.

Will Do Rick! Thanks!

Thanks Neha!

Matt Powers - The Permaculture Student cheers Matt, great to hear from you

@@DogsGoWoofProductions I need to have you all back on the podcast but now youtube show: that footage got lost in the moves somehow!

Matt Powers - The Permaculture Student sounds great, I’m keen

Thank you

Тимофей Кинжеев nice to hear from you

Hey, thanks for watching. That's great to hear all the way from India!

I was waiting for the climax the whole time wanting to hear this inspirational music....kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eJOdbKRp0r-RhWQ.html

Thanks. The name of the first book published is Permaculture One. The newest is about retrofitting your house - called Retrosuburbia, which is a great resource if u don’t have the land or live in suburbia

I agree, it’s a great ecosystem to take inspiration from, but although it is super complex, that is a tropical climate and only found at the equator, so there are limits to what can be achieved from modelling off that particular ecosystem in somewhere say arid or in the Mediterranean for example, where more emphasis on water conservation and storing is necessary. But it sure is nature at her finest! 🌿

Yes, it is. Check out our online film Permaculture Ethics, which goes into this. :)

Bill Mollison

@@davidsmith9189 what permaculture teachers "have to teach" to local cultures that have been stable for 1000's of years outside the globalized economy? what reality you mean?

If you would like to contribute subtitles, they can be added

When you listen to Bill, there is no sense of egocentrism, just pure enthusiasm. He didn't want glory. He just wanted the world to know about it. Big difference.

@@papapetad maybe he settled into later in life, but in the 80s and 90s he enjoyed the celebrity and trappings. The lady across the street from me was having an affair with him in the 90s and said that he had women all over the world.

@@wes4192 So what? Seeing where he came from it's understandable. He doesn't exactly have any false pretenses in his videos. He's a bold character with a passion. Who are we to judge when his character is very much what led to the mass diffusion of the permaculture movement?

@@papapetad People talk about him like he's Christ. The idea of permaculture is good but he was a kind of a Weinsteinlike bloke..from what I heard.

@@wes4192 Screw the gossipers and fanboys alike. This is about the movement, not his bedtime portfolio. I don't see any need in bringing hollywood bullshit into this.

The rabbit trappers didn’t have an incentive to stop the rabbits, because they were being paid to catch them. So, they started farming them so they could catch more rabbits.

@@DogsGoWoofProductions ah, got it. Thank you for explaining that.

Thanks for taking time to comment. The thing that I think gets lost and that is in part because this is only the backstory and not the full film, but permaculture is about replicating nature’s systems not gardening. There is nothing else that exists that is as efficient as nature’s systems. Unfortunately, all centralised systems require energy input from external resources which means they require loads more energy to function. And, if energy that is not exchanged within a closed loop system will always require more energy and resources while also producing waste, which if not used, is finite and unsustainable. So it makes sense to harness the most sustainable system we know, nature. And that starts with learning about the land and looking after it - which if you look at energy for us to survive, that starts with food production.

@@DogsGoWoofProductions I honor your opinion and I don’t want to force anyone to accept my opinion on this topic. Buy let me explain it a bit closer. There is an endless amount of different movements in this world we are living and therefore it would take forever to dive into them and argue. It is not necessary, because it is only important to be aware of the main and absolute goal people are existing and living: they are living for their Creator God who has created them to believe in Him, do His purposeful works and inherit eternal life to be with Him for eternity. One part of those God’s works we are to do, is our daily job for our bread (including gardening/agriculture): *Gen 1: 3 17-19 (NASB): “[..] In toil you will eat of it All the days of your life. 18Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you; And you will eat the plants of the field; 19By the sweat of your face You will eat bread,[..]” So we are to work hard for our bread and it is not designed for us not to work so that nature provides for us without our labour. There is a term “Entropy” in physics which basically means the amount of a mess or disorder. According to the 2nd law of thermodynamics - in any isolated system entropy tends to increase and never decrease. Every process, without the external input, tends to become more chaotic: temperature of the water in a thermos goes down if not heated, your room tends to become more dirty if not tidied up and so on. So without the labour (also gardening/agriculture) of the people, everything only tends to be more messy and chaotic in this world. One more important thing - everything in this world is created FOR people not vice versa. *Psalm 8: 5-8 (NASB): “5Yet You have made him a little lower than God, And You crown him with glory and majesty! 6You make him to rule over the works of Your hands; You have put all things under his feet, 7All sheep and oxen, And also the beasts of the field, 8The birds of the heavens and the fish of the sea, Whatever passes through the paths of the seas.” And *Heb 2: 8 (NASB): “You have put all things in subjection under his feet.” For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him.“ So nature is created by God for people, not people for nature and created not in the way that it provides bread for itself, without us working. Without work all that remains is just a jungle that will not provide bread for people. Talking about centralization here - it is a way to increase efficiency, even if it also has some downside. It is better through division of labor to have an 8 hour working day as we have today and have spare time for our families and other good works than work from light to light on our own just for the daily bread. Finally, It is because of the evilness of people why the power tends to concentrate in the hands of less and less people who are getting richer while the majority lives in poverty even while working hard. Those people will answer for their evil works and choices on the day of God’s judgement.

Interesting. I appreciate the some of points you raised in the conversation and I although I disagree with some of these things, I think one of the most important things you raised was about how the poor people suffer in these centralised economies and from my experience growing your own food at home for just taking an hour a week away from other work, I was able to grow all my veggies - that freedom and fulfilment is priceless and the best thing about it is, anyone can do it. The sun shines, water rains and plants will grow, without having to ask for permission from those higher people, and that to me is the most empowering and positive work I’ve done that has given back in so many ways. But, it has been interesting and I value your thoughts, so thanks for the discussion and I wish you all the best. 🌱

pmilko1 that is true in a sense that permaculture is not a new concept of connection to nature and although it’s not said in this video, there is another chapter part of the film, which acknowledges that those concepts came from indigenous culture - but what permaculture offers is the ability to design nature back into modern life and across cultures

Demeter is much older and Steiner did not invent it too. I would call Francé and his wife Francé-Harrar the inventors of symbiotic organic agriculture, cause they where science based the first time. Never heard somebody dropp the names. Nature invented everything, we can just copy. Or study how nature does it.