Persian & Egyptian Scales.

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5 жыл бұрын

Hi all. A good many years ago I came across a book by a chap called Yusef Lateef. It was full of interesting and exotic (well to my ears) sounding scales and patterns. Here are two that struck me as a bit cool. The Persian and Egyptian scales as he named them. I like to use them sometimes in jazz improvisation and also in composition.
#persian #egyptian #jazz #piano #scales

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@billtalker3843 4 жыл бұрын

Yo. Egyptian Jazz. I WANT MORE

@speier Жыл бұрын

Checkout Ethiopiques

@alonzomachiraju6848 8 ай бұрын

Your Persian scale is the same as Raga Bhairav in Indian (Hindustani) classical music, note that traditional Persian and Arabic music both use quarter tones to define scales and modes in addition to full and half-steps. FTR, Hindustani music uses 12 notes to define a raga (melodic progression framework) and 10 additional pitches in between for ornamentation purposes.

@supersteveworld 8 ай бұрын

Is it? Thanks…I know next to nothing about using quarter tones etc. It’s not my Persian scale lol …I got it from Yusef Lateef’s book ‘Repository of Scales and Melodic Patterns’. I’ve always assumed he made compromises with some of the scales to fit western harmony and instrumentation. Cheers!

@leaningtower73 2 жыл бұрын

So to recap: Persion is same as Phrygian Dominant but with a natural 7th Egyptian is same as Harmonic Minor but with sharp 4th Hijaz Maqam is exactly Phrygian Dominant For reference the Phrygian Dominant is the 5th mode in the Harmonic Minor scale

@lamakamal4072 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the explanation!

@BJ-fj6jw Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@Cosmefulanito2812 Жыл бұрын

So persian is the same as the double harmonic minor or hungarian

@Tatokala 10 ай бұрын

Many thanks.

@Tatokala 10 ай бұрын

@@Cosmefulanito2812isn't this Double harmonic major...?

@ultraazuli6598 10 ай бұрын

oh mannnn, that blues improv at the end...bravo

@supersteveworld 10 ай бұрын

Hi, thanks very much! ⭐️

@tinaselka8155 3 жыл бұрын

Ooh ...wow ...that sounds amazing 🎹😍

@supersteveworld 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Tina! Glad you like it, thanks 😀👍

@sturgandfriendsmusic7420 2 жыл бұрын

The last chord is my favorite. Colorful 🤣

@kailyjamessokame.6028 8 күн бұрын

Yes, Sir. ❤

@botlhalebakwa9364 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I'm looking for, thanks🤛🤝

@supersteveworld 2 жыл бұрын

Great hope it was useful 👍

@turbocandy7037 4 жыл бұрын

Nice buddy...keep it up with new interesting things...hope u reach 1m subs

@PhoenixCheetah 8 күн бұрын

I was hoping for more!

@supersteveworld 7 күн бұрын

@@PhoenixCheetah hi, thanks for watching the video…I hope by saying you wanted more that meant you found it interesting 😀 I’ve got some others showing similar things…like one on a Modern Japanese Scale if you’re interested 👍

@fluckyred2533 3 жыл бұрын

Quick and informative 👍

@supersteveworld 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, nice one 👍

@starrybenchstudios 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome

@supersteveworld 3 жыл бұрын

🤪👍

@Koropokel Жыл бұрын

this is double harmonic or byzantine scale and the other is also a jewish or moldavian or crim scale

@shizamza 2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit that made me so happy

@supersteveworld 2 жыл бұрын

😎👍

@branden2941 Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha I came up with this scale on my own without the B. Thanks for giving me an extra note

@a.ramirez2946 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds exotic af

@supersteveworld 2 жыл бұрын

Lol cheers 👍

@carlosduv 4 жыл бұрын

Nice ty!

@supersteveworld 4 жыл бұрын

Carlos Duvivier thanks, hope it was useful :)

@melchoraslez1689 2 жыл бұрын

Any recommendations on where or how to learn more about eastern music theory? Or how to play with an "eastern style" piano ? The guitar is much more popular in the Middle East but I'm trying to find something for the piano

@supersteveworld 2 жыл бұрын

Hi my studies were from a book by Yusef Lateef…Repository of Scales and Melodic Patterns. I believe it’s still available 😎👍

@siyacer 5 ай бұрын

interesting

@supersteveworld 5 ай бұрын

@nikos5484 4 ай бұрын

the first one the hijaz scale is byzantine

@supersteveworld 4 ай бұрын

I got the scales from the book ‘Repository of Scales and Melodic Patterns’ by Yusef Lateef. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@pidgurus 6 ай бұрын

I'd like to hear continuation of this piano music! Can you do it, please? It was excellent!

@supersteveworld 6 ай бұрын

Hi, thanks for taking a look and the kind words! If inspiration strikes I’ll certainly come back to this topic ⭐️👍

@pidgurus 6 ай бұрын

@@supersteveworld Thank you very much for attention!

@brond13 Жыл бұрын

lol the end

@resp3ctAll 4 жыл бұрын

well, you can make a tutorial, how to mak beautiful egyptian music..,learning this beautiful egyptian chords..

@havefunbesafe Жыл бұрын

Have you heard of persian tuned piano?? That's pretty interesting...actually tweaked tuning.

@supersteveworld Жыл бұрын

Not exactly…I’ve seen some keyboards with alternate tunings though 😎👍

@katbirsing 2 жыл бұрын

Can I play caravan with this scale?

@supersteveworld 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve no idea sorry..never learnt it.

@amirashoury783 2 жыл бұрын

thats double harmonic though. isnt the double harmonic major mode different to the persian?

@supersteveworld 2 жыл бұрын

My source was Yusef Lateef’s Repository of Scales & Melodic Patterns. Seems like you get a different take on this depending who you ask. Lateef’s study predates Wikipedia. I’m not taking sides…I don’t care…I just like playing it lol 😎👍

@amirashoury783 2 жыл бұрын

@@supersteveworld i asked this from my uni lecturer who is iranian. he said both are used. The iranian modes dont fall into the definitions of the western "mode". it has its own musical system close to modes called "dastghah". there are 6 or 7 of them. basically the dominant Phrygian mode (third is major) and the double harmonics are called "shoor" and "homayoon" ( i dont remember which is which i got an oral explanation from him and didint write it down.

@vleaky3430 2 жыл бұрын

Isn't this the same as Dominant Phrygian?

@supersteveworld 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I presume you are talking about the Persian scale? Not quite the same. Persian has a natural 7th degree (in relation to major scale) and Dominant Phrygian has a flattened 7th. Cheers 👍

@vleaky3430 2 жыл бұрын

@@supersteveworld oh thanks I'm gonna have to look it up. So you're saying the Egyptian scale is a whole seperate scale on its own?

@supersteveworld 2 жыл бұрын

@@vleaky3430 hi yes as far as I know…but they are very similar 👍

@adamtayseer9492 3 ай бұрын

That's called ,Maqam(scale) NAHAWAND مقام نهواند there are another arabic scales 1-BAYATI بياتي 2-HUZAM هزام 3-HEGAZ حجاز 4-KURD كرد 5-SABA صبا 6-SEKAH سيكاه

@philiponcale1820 6 ай бұрын

Egypt is the place to be. Egypt. Egypt.

@supersteveworld 6 ай бұрын

Well, I’ve never been 😂🤷🏻‍♂️⭐️👍

@jessebreakspear6656 2 жыл бұрын

First of all, I want to say thank you for sharing such awesome scales BUT........ Sorry to be that guy LOL "That F&*#ing guy" (teeth grinding) but the scale you are calling Persian is really called byzantine, or double harmonic in western or in the east they call it hujaz kar. a propper Persian scale has a flat 5. but don't take my word for it (look it up) and Egyptian? I've heard that one called Egyptian before but then I've heard everything from Spanish Phrygian to the diminished scale called "the Egyptian scale" LOL but anyways that scale is called Hungarian Minor, in western English, and Nawa athar in the east (sorry about my bad spelling of Semitic words)

@supersteveworld 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jesse, thanks for stopping by and watching…no worries about pulling me up on these…my source was Yusef Lateef’s book ‘Repository of Scales and Melodic Patterns’…in which they are called Persian and Egyptian respectively. A lot of these ‘exotic’ scales (for want of a better word) are contentious and seem to get people a little hot and bothered about the true naming of them. It’s perfectly reasonable for Yusef to have got things wrong or mixed up and it’s also believable that Wikipedia might not be entirely accurate either (not that I saying you got your information from there…but a lot of people do). With this type of thing musical lines get blurred and one person’s Steven is another’s Esteban 😀. I couldn’t care less to be honest lol. They sound cool and are fun to use in my composing and improvisation, which is why I made the video…to share what I had discovered. Good luck with your music, all the best 👍

@damienscanlon5585 4 жыл бұрын

The Persian scale is 1,b2,3,4,b5,b6,7. You need to flatten that perfect 5th.

@supersteveworld 4 жыл бұрын

Damien Scanlon Hi Damien, thanks for having a look at the video, that’s great. I got my information from a book by Yusef Lateef called ‘Repository of Scales and Melodic Patterns’. It’s a pretty comprehensive and authoritative text and I highly recommend it, if you can find a copy.

@myyootube2 3 жыл бұрын

@@supersteveworld I've also heard what Damien is saying. It would appear that westerners at least at times refer to both versions as the "Persian scale", although Dbl Harmonic Major is probably more common for the perfect 5th version. But here's a little secret. The Persian with the flatted 5th is a mode of your "Egyptian" scale. It's the 5th mode. So no sweat. It's covered!

@supersteveworld 3 жыл бұрын

@@myyootube2 Thanks for having a look, hope you enjoyed the video 👍