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@worthlesscar2432 6 жыл бұрын
Why spend time with your girlfriend when you can spend time with THE BOIZ
@bangunny 6 жыл бұрын
Worthless Car bros before hoes, yeah ?
@ThatOldSchoolMagic 6 жыл бұрын
Worthless Car It depends on your relationship with em.
@logantheman676 6 жыл бұрын
hell yeaaaaaaaaaaah
@carnagewolf1 6 жыл бұрын
Saturday's for the boyz
@YamacKocovali7 5 жыл бұрын
BOIZ with a Z at the end. woo xD
@tnuc5534 5 жыл бұрын
Ai: I won’t take no as a answer. Me: Declines *You feel like you’re gonna have a bad time*
@Trybel 4 жыл бұрын
*First four notes of Megalovania play*
@karishard569 4 жыл бұрын
*MEGALOVANIA PLAYS IN THE BACKGROUND*
@theadmirableadmiral7408 4 жыл бұрын
MegalovaAi
@AtMr8MinutesIsReal 4 жыл бұрын
SANS!!??
@user-ek2xg3ps5s 4 жыл бұрын
*So you have chosen DEATH ?*
@abrogarreuben 5 жыл бұрын
Ayane: you want me to stay longer? Sure senpai Dojima's colleagues: OPEN THE GODDAMN DOOR. THAT'S A KID
@Amyntheri 5 жыл бұрын
How much of a shit do you have to be to have your parents go on vacation without you on Christmas eve
@sonpham3438 5 жыл бұрын
Thyr Lindberg but looks like a child
@peynnep6483 4 жыл бұрын
Yu to Dojima-sama's Colleagues: FOR GOD SHAKE JUST BE HAPPY THIS GAME AIN'T ALLOWING HENTAI ACTIONS!
@k9_hyp4h45 4 жыл бұрын
Thyr Lindberg I literally thought she was a 6-year old from her sprite and her va
@seg162 4 жыл бұрын
she looks like a kewpie doll
@SliverSaurus 3 жыл бұрын
Dojima: Are you seriously spending Christmas Eve by yourself? Narukami: nah I'm with MY BOOOOIIIIIZZ
@P.H691 2 жыл бұрын
DA BOIS: YEEEAAAH!!!!!
@Pie_The_Man 5 жыл бұрын
"Watch: distance reads:
@xml3177 4 жыл бұрын
they fucking
@Canwegettosubscribers-nk8nn 5 жыл бұрын
"The watch reads -1m" HOO BOY!
@Zonk420 5 жыл бұрын
Cause Naoto is pegging Yu
@Cybele12 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get to 10,000 subscribers ????? Your profile pic is perfect for that
@vthegreatest6352 4 жыл бұрын
“Obtained yasogami outfit” *H O O B O Y*
@door-kun6444 4 жыл бұрын
This nigga yu really just banged naoto and kept her clothes lmao
@Wonker_ Жыл бұрын
Yu "Chad" Narukami
@memebait 4 жыл бұрын
“The watch reads: Distance 1m” “Obtained girls Yaso outfit.” Ok Yu.
@raulphilipgoco403 4 жыл бұрын
MemeBait Idk why but I get the feeling they smashed.
@reidskull5018 4 жыл бұрын
He just kept her clothes lmao
@iiReTr0Z 4 жыл бұрын
What does that mean? eng isn’t my main language btw
@raulphilipgoco403 4 жыл бұрын
Rito they had sex
@ConductorElcrest 4 жыл бұрын
They fucked good huh
@diegonevarz9878 6 жыл бұрын
naoto is the only one that Yu ask to stay for sum fuk, he sees that uniform and awakens his inner beast.
@milsteinreicadorniga891 3 жыл бұрын
'....Persona!'
@shawngarcia4258 2 жыл бұрын
Mara!
@luximdrago941 2 жыл бұрын
*[Reach Out to the Truth intensifies]*
@sirdarkon4517 6 жыл бұрын
Naoto is the best, Spend a night together, Distance
@joshuasears3939 5 жыл бұрын
SirDarkon IF hmmmmmmmmmm
@rvedoss 4 жыл бұрын
hoo boy...
@user-ek2xg3ps5s 4 жыл бұрын
@@slidcord9337 orgy
@evergreencapsule466 3 жыл бұрын
too good to pass up
@shawngarcia4258 2 жыл бұрын
Besides, Yu invites her to stay. Lol!
@jessiemajeskie8821 5 жыл бұрын
16:54 Ayane: "we got him!" *chris hansen walks in* "Hi, im with dateline NBC"
@saiyanfang1047 5 жыл бұрын
Yu is also a child. Nesah Sirhc: We didn't get him boys
@alexanderavila8488 3 жыл бұрын
@@saiyanfang1047 wait then counter attack with: Attempted framing of a minor.
@vraolet 3 жыл бұрын
@@saiyanfang1047 But you see how this looks?
@cavaliafs7920 7 жыл бұрын
lol naotos text XD SEE YOU TOMORROW Y/N PLZ RESPOND ASAP
@Mgs2master 7 жыл бұрын
The response to her watch question, "Are you stalking me?" Heh.
@adri._. 6 жыл бұрын
Mgs2master what does she say
@vynonyoutube1418 5 жыл бұрын
that one moment when Naoto out of all the people seems just as thirsty as Rise
@franconunez925 4 жыл бұрын
@@vynonyoutube1418 you got that wrong, nobody is more thirsty than rise... maybe teddie BUT YOU UNDERSTAND MY POINT!
@heyjoji1954 6 жыл бұрын
10:35 "I won't take no for an answer" *PASS*
@Brawler_1337 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Joji >You give her “no” as an answer
@kaboompaws5656 5 жыл бұрын
my man
@scamin441 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gdaToMmbq7Scf30.html
@sendylie1774 4 жыл бұрын
> The watch reads: "Distance:
@M4RRKL33C33 4 жыл бұрын
Man, seeing them pour their heart out to the main character just for it to cut to the previous day declining to spend the day with them is so fucking funny, lmao.
@danielclark653 5 жыл бұрын
Naoto’s messages had me rolling
@kaboompaws5656 5 жыл бұрын
ayane : i'm sure it will keep you warm Protagonist : why dont you warm me up? me : my man
@sendylie1774 4 жыл бұрын
fbi: FBI OPEN UP
@PhoenixWrightAceAttorney 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the most chad response I’ve ever heard. Of course I’d expect no less from the chad king himself.
@Motoguau 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone just ignored the fact when you could answer "why don't you warm me up?" to Ayane?
@17madman39 5 жыл бұрын
Claudia Andrea Sandoval Garrido FBI OPEN UP
@burnt_ramen9757 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Hansen would like to have a word with Narukami
@franconunez925 4 жыл бұрын
Dojima and Nanako with a gun and a ariette: TADAIMA ONI-CHAN! PUT YOUR OCHINCHI DOWN!
@walnutyuh6456 2 жыл бұрын
💀💀💀
@K3MBR0 5 жыл бұрын
8:13 Was that a giggle? Please, tell me that was a giggle. That was one of the cutest damn giggles I've ever heard. God dammit Naoto, why are you so adorable?
@undineablefestival9768 5 жыл бұрын
Materrulz Gaming CUZ SHE IS THE BEST GIRL IN ALL OF PERSONA SNENSJSJSNS
@arson1244 5 жыл бұрын
no homo she’s best girl
@nathanvosburgh718 2 жыл бұрын
i wish we had more time with Naoto
@notmychannelanymorelol 3 жыл бұрын
0:00 Yukiko 2:55 Chie 5:15 Naoto 8:30 Ai 10:38 Yumi 13:13 Best girl Rise 15:19 Ayane FBI that’s illegal 17:20 THE BOIZ
@justinmoreno390 2 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, does Marié have a date for Christmas?
@P.H691 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinmoreno390 sadly no, the game would default to DA BOIZS if you are dating Marie
@mythicaldoughnut1100 Жыл бұрын
The fact that you have best girl Rise means you are also a chad
@donavanroldan5536 Жыл бұрын
You say ayane is FBI illegal but she’s the same age as “best girl rise”
@StormsandSaugeye Жыл бұрын
@@donavanroldan5536 *ANNOTATE THE FBI INTO THAT* Though to be fair, both of them are 16 and Yu is 17. I feel like that's generally considered acceptable. Especially since the deed itself is never shown and all characters are at the age of consent and it's not like a grown ass adult is preying on them. Though if Yu dated her after highschool she's gonna have to carry a fucking ID at all times just to keep Yu out of prison (Ayame that is)
@therewasanattempt360 4 жыл бұрын
"I won't take no for an answer" Yu: *declines Also Yu: why do I hear boss music
@StormsandSaugeye Жыл бұрын
*Both Yukiko and Ai show up at the door*
@pocketinfinity6733 2 жыл бұрын
0:55 damn Yukikos parents really out here like "Get out and give us grandchildren"
@soap9277 Жыл бұрын
She's actively on the hunt too. There's a scene if you choose to hang out with Ai in Okina where Yukiko will just randomly walk by, tell Ai to piss off, and steal you for herself for the day. She really walked into someone else's social link interaction and said "no, mine!" Edit: What makes the scene better is that after telling Ai to go away, she turns to Yu and asks him "what do you have to say for yourself," and your only options are to either fold and apologize for hanging out with another girl on her watch, or try to explain that she's misunderstanding the situation.
@renzocater3089 3 жыл бұрын
Did Naoto... Change in front of our Chad? DAMN....
@SeigZeon22 8 жыл бұрын
Naoto so cute :3
@corvusvocatio 7 жыл бұрын
naoto is best girl
@charielity6071 7 жыл бұрын
SEE U TOMORROW Y/N PLZ REPLY ASAP
@ThatOldSchoolMagic 6 жыл бұрын
Charielity N
@redmondmacul1434 4 жыл бұрын
Naoto is my waifu
@Polevolter 4 жыл бұрын
Naoto is so perfect that she cures my depression but then I’m diagnosed with a new type of depression, caused by realizing that Naoto isn’t real. She’s very intelligent but very shy and easily embarrassed. I love how through each of her three dates she becomes more confident to you. In X-Mas, she puts on the school uniform for you. In New Years, she straight up invites you to her room. In Valentines, she straight up tells you to take all of her. Naoto doesn’t fool around.
@walnutyuh6456 2 жыл бұрын
"SEE YOU TOMORROW?" Y/N "PLZ REPLY ASAP" I was originally skipping the messages until i got to the boys but naoto is just too great to pass up
@seg162 10 ай бұрын
"It's a text message, not a telegram."
@octodog5907 6 жыл бұрын
Hawt DAMN is Rise implying some spicy shit!
@doctorbeans9274 3 жыл бұрын
"PLZ RESPOND ASAP" -Naoto
@wevon1701 4 жыл бұрын
SEE YOU TOMORROW??? Y/N P L S R E P L Y A S A P best girl.
@n2badsam420 3 жыл бұрын
Have a seat
@ReisSns 5 жыл бұрын
16:20 Jesus that second option !
@Guntherson220 6 жыл бұрын
16:19 "Why don't you warm me up", oh my, how forward.
@vicluviano18 6 жыл бұрын
LOOOOOOL HOLY SHIT
@seg162 5 жыл бұрын
"not finna go to jail"
@TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda wish we got to see their reaction to each option
@feed8271 4 жыл бұрын
imagine, spend Christmas Eve with Kou and Daisuke.
@jeffgiorgi4747 3 жыл бұрын
No girls allowed doors locked spending the night together
@omega5159 2 жыл бұрын
“Video games appeal to the male fantasy” The male fantasy:
@dreamEnd 3 жыл бұрын
17:25 Girls: "What's up? are you spending Christmas Eve by yourself?" Yu: "Nah i'm with my BOYS!!!
@florenciojacela6560 3 жыл бұрын
Every time there's a scene in Yu's room, the first thing that catches my eye in the background is the book of "Gags" on his shelf.
@absolutelysolid3011 4 жыл бұрын
Wait: Y/N = Yes/No Y/N = Yu Narukami
@boomllani5747 3 жыл бұрын
Y/N = Your Name
@lain11644 3 жыл бұрын
Kanji's face when he rolls eyes gets me every time.
@Stingray_Hans 3 жыл бұрын
Chad Narukami: ... 🤨 All the girls: *blush
@elopez1882 2 жыл бұрын
Yukiko’s parents knew exactly what they were doing
@Xelpherpolis 3 жыл бұрын
17:26 "Like I said, it's not about the horniness, it's about the loneliness. And how can I be lonely with my boys? Like a famous person once said; 'Boys on the side.' But I don't-- I disagree, I say... let's hear it for the boys." -Michael Scott
@theturtwig50 3 жыл бұрын
Amen I could see Yu saying that lol
@marcusmcfall8167 5 жыл бұрын
Yukiko:I love you. Btw I'm moving in
@recezz9830 5 жыл бұрын
Naoto is always the best choice.
@Flowerboy.flores 3 жыл бұрын
I played the entire game with out knowing who Ai was.
@armintargaryen9216 3 жыл бұрын
100+ hours, just discovered that Yumo exists
@Flowerboy.flores 3 жыл бұрын
@@armintargaryen9216 Yumi? To be fair I never did school clubs when I was in school which is what pretty much happened.
@duke4726 2 жыл бұрын
Ayane, Ai and Yumi can all get the marie treatment and be completely forgotten by the community
@lenartor2358 Жыл бұрын
Same
@danmoua7686 Жыл бұрын
@Duke yes I also didn't know until *Goodbye I never existed forget about us...* Me: Ah shit wtf you existed!?! Aren't you just like Margaret that existed solely exist as an npc? (I love Tsuderes.)
@boopergoober 3 жыл бұрын
Ai: "I won't take no for an answer." Yu: no
@instinct3461 3 жыл бұрын
She said no but not nope
@yenmeng 2 жыл бұрын
the ultimate chad
@GwnMichael Жыл бұрын
I choosed yukiko myself , but dang naoto's one is also extremly good and rise's too. Also THE BOIZ was just straight up gold LMAO
@RoWiGRaTH 5 жыл бұрын
We all know why we're here. Because we enjoy spending Christmas Eve with the roaches Teddy had in his bear suit.
@thorhit 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fZtjocaVptfekZ8.html
@thumbdaddy3865 6 жыл бұрын
There's a reason Ai rhymes with WHYYYYYYY
@player2-lightwater914 2 жыл бұрын
For those who wants Christmas Eve date/hangout, defeat the Killer on Dec 22nd. Do not defeat the killer on later date (Dec 24th is last day) or else Christmas Eve will be skipped and Dec 23rd became a normal day. Also, do not defeat the Killer too early or else the game will skip forward to Dec 23rd. As for Marie, the official last day to max out her Social Link is Dec 23rd but only if you have not defeat the Killer yet. This also means Christmas Eve will be skipped. If you want Christmas Eve, max out Marie's Social Link and the unofficial last day to max out is Dec 21st so you can defeat the Killer on Dec 22nd.
@amarant1275 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact. The 22nd of December is winter solstice in Japan and is the day where the goddess Amaterasu (sun goddess) finally left the cave where she was hiding bringing back the sun to the world after days of darkness. Atlus did an smart move here.
@b-1battledroid674 3 жыл бұрын
Naoto really needs to know how to disable caps lock
@instinct3461 3 жыл бұрын
How do you?
@Matheus-hj8ye Жыл бұрын
BUT HOW
@CausticFoil 5 жыл бұрын
Me and the Boys on Christmas Eve
@daigo5572 5 жыл бұрын
mE aNd tHe BOIZ XD
@whooo8580 3 жыл бұрын
Obtained *Macho Medal*
@froakie1404 4 жыл бұрын
Why chill with your gf when u can hang out with the bois
@LeonOwO 4 жыл бұрын
Spending christmas eve with the lads
@foxxyashton2096 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone else gonna ignore that rise Message Is like her Forcing him to accept
@Xyto77 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@havokmusicinc 4 жыл бұрын
lmao who tf is still dating Ai by christmas
@piercingmoon24 3 жыл бұрын
Me
@dreamEnd 3 жыл бұрын
@@piercingmoon24 Chad
@NonsenseOblige 3 жыл бұрын
Ai is the best girl and I'll die on this hill.
@PaladineAvenger1 3 жыл бұрын
@@NonsenseOblige alone
@whooo8580 3 жыл бұрын
Who dates Ayane, thats creepy
@Onoken16 4 жыл бұрын
"Christmas eve continues" that's some good text
@shadowhunter-mi5su 5 жыл бұрын
Ya know Yosuie reflects me a lot. Or maybe me in near-future since I'll be abroad at Massachusetts and when it's Christmas, you can be sure that I might not have presents for others while they give me theirs..
@lightdx7008 4 жыл бұрын
Love specially Rise's chrismast
@lieutenantdundee3916 6 жыл бұрын
I see you saved the best for last ;)))))
@lilivoncute3968 5 жыл бұрын
okay i really wanted to hear the boys sing all i want for christmas is you song that would have slapped if they had did it
@lucaskincanyon7393 5 жыл бұрын
Spending Christmas with the boys! 😎
@sombrero258 5 жыл бұрын
Could you count how many times naoto says umm or err
@Cybele12 4 жыл бұрын
ジョナサンケンリー umm a lot
@MCWSam 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly I missed this on both my playthroughs since I picked Marie the first time and second time I ended up going in the TV on the 24th. Had I known, I would have gone it and finished it earlier...
@17madman39 5 жыл бұрын
16:53 FBI OPEN UP
@Ragsfire 4 жыл бұрын
I first play p4 when i was at 6th grade.. now i already understand whats going on this scene lol
@AstrumPrimus 6 жыл бұрын
14:05 "silver bangles?? Ah C'mon that thing only add 30% hp! I'd like you give me at least gold or diamond bangle so i can last more longer in the battle. But never mind, silver bangle is better than the iron or bronze one. Thanks, rise! Next time can you give me some grand bangle?
@RoWiGRaTH 5 жыл бұрын
That moment when her gift actually gives you 50% extra SP, making it incredibly useful. This ain't Final Fantasy, get those HP bangles outta here!
@RickyHadou 6 жыл бұрын
Damn dog never shuts up....
@zyntreaux 3 жыл бұрын
At the time I maxed out Rise and Yukiko's social link, and Yukiko texted me first and I thought she was only only one ;-; I WANTED RISE >:(
@K24B 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, it does happened to me too goddamnit (when summer festival or something i forgot)
@zyntreaux 2 жыл бұрын
@@K24B Yeah :/
@Tatherwood 3 жыл бұрын
I fucked up. I played the nice guy and told Naoto I liked her "like she is" instead of favoring a higher pitch. NOOOOOOO!!! OTL
@Leonardo-rj8ec 7 жыл бұрын
Party with Chicks Or with Bros?
@Emu- 6 жыл бұрын
Bricks?
@xtato01 5 жыл бұрын
BROS BEFORE HOES
@Jordan-ko6uk 4 жыл бұрын
BROS BEFORE HOES
@lupin6646 4 жыл бұрын
The BOIZ duh
@goroadachi9489 3 жыл бұрын
Does Naoto count?
@NahFYM 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody Gangster until it says “Decline” and “Spend with someone else”
@michelvanderlinden8363 Жыл бұрын
It's good to be the King
@downrad5684 4 жыл бұрын
Why take chances with real girls when you have digital girls.
@J221. 2 жыл бұрын
Aw the double edge sword of girls both real and fictional Ones real and can love but also hurt and ones fictional and they can be what you want but will never be able to touch them
@VeritasEspiritoria 2 жыл бұрын
@@J221. Virtual reality baby!😎
@pokemon_mewtwo Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite persona game in the series
@farhantheaquaguychannel6691 7 жыл бұрын
ihihihihi merry Christmas narukami
@maximussaktish 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they gave the option to spend christmas with all of the investigation team
@CT808 4 жыл бұрын
Dang I missed this scene because I was in the TV world on Christmas eve :p
@lucaskincanyon7393 5 жыл бұрын
Distance reads,
@cagethelonewolf 3 жыл бұрын
tbh his head phones would of been a very sweet gift
@yondabigman4668 3 жыл бұрын
Free beats
@a3s1r1986 3 жыл бұрын
OK, Shriogane needs to learn lower case letters. Damn near got ringing in my ear reading her emails. Also did she just put a tracker on Yu?
@jibbersdelight1616 Жыл бұрын
Christmas eve with the boys is the best choice
@fierytigergaming8112 5 жыл бұрын
13:59 - Unfortunately Rise, it's a lie. Can relate to Naoto though, i'm always dressed in dark clothes and until recently found it hard actually talking to people naturally. But Yumi though - It's the thought that counts, no 2 people are alike so you shouldn't be worried to take a gamble (Only at Sae's Casino, should you worry))
@DarthInsomnis 3 ай бұрын
I very happy that I went with Chie to have her Christmas date, but dude every time you get a chance to hang with the boys, it’s always comedy gold
@Doctadoone1 Ай бұрын
I love how Ai asks for a tiny slice of the cake but in the next scene the whole thing is gone. Yu crushed like 90% of that cake.
@sirbradfordofhousejones Ай бұрын
Not the only cake Yu be crushing that night. *awkward bro high five*
@starfish5599 3 жыл бұрын
it still bugs me why do they have to wear school uniform in romantic christmas night? couldn't they wear the casual outfit?
@charlottec8795 Жыл бұрын
i honestly think i just died at the reply off are you stalking me my mind was just thinking choose it lol
@averypatrick5279 3 жыл бұрын
Naoto in the girl's outfit looks so damn cursed, just put back on the hat and the men's uniform.
@robodestroyer8351 3 жыл бұрын
Chrismas eve continues... Me: Yeah it was a loud chrismas eve... and there was a lot of creaking may I go on?
@nurihighwind5871 4 жыл бұрын
Damn it Chie, why so damn adorable. Best girl, period. Treasure the tomboys
@apairofsteeltoedboots4729 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@JackiW 6 жыл бұрын
Weh.. Why is Naoto so cute.. I mean, I don't regret staying loyal to Yukiko but.. Man.
@stellajonathan7161 4 жыл бұрын
Lucky guy, he can xxxx them all, gosh
@rogenedreambillo21 3 жыл бұрын
안녕하세요, 마이스타임니다 (Shadow World intro) 오늘은 페르소나 4 골든 크리스마스 이브 데이트를 살펴 보겠습니다.
@returnedtomonkey8886 3 жыл бұрын
Guess i missed this first time since i tooke too much to catch adachi.
@codyblox7301 5 жыл бұрын
RISE AND YUKI MY ONLY BABE!
@Zoten001 4 жыл бұрын
"Christmas Eve Continues..." Oh, I bet it did.
@sootythunder3111 6 жыл бұрын
Naoto is best girl but I ship her more with kanji
@rogenedreambillo21 3 жыл бұрын
안녕하세요, 마이스타임니다 (Shadow World intro) 오늘은 페르소나 4 골든 크리스마스 이브 데이트를 살펴 보겠습니다. 로 시작 雪子先輩
@Cybele12 4 жыл бұрын
Naoto loves her all caps huh
@lucaskincanyon7393 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't played this game in awhile, but where's Rise??? Edit; I should really watch the video to the end...
@Eriasu8311 2 жыл бұрын
Persona 4 it's full of amazing waifus... Every option it's a perfect one without doubt.
@mako_happy 3 жыл бұрын
everybody gangsta till we get sad because the rise date changes to the other date
@briannatineo6128 5 жыл бұрын
If you think about it he bagges them at the end
@bigboydaigle9318 4 жыл бұрын
HOO BOY
@shortvideos6225 2 жыл бұрын
wow mc nailed every single chck
@kittymera Жыл бұрын
naoto is literally the best girl and no one will convince me otherwise
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