Personal Protection: Mossberg 590A1 Pump vs Rock Island VR60 Autoloader

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Paul Harrell

Paul Harrell

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Paul discusses the advantages and disadvantages of using a pump action shotgun vs an auto-loading shotgun.
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@adamcosta4610
@adamcosta4610 5 жыл бұрын
Is Paul Harrell the best firearms channel on KZfaq....? You be the judge.
@graeme3023
@graeme3023 5 жыл бұрын
But don't try this at home, he's what you call a professional...
@adamcosta4610
@adamcosta4610 5 жыл бұрын
yes!
@kurtbergh
@kurtbergh 5 жыл бұрын
His channel looks good to me.
@danielmoore409
@danielmoore409 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@watermelonmaleesha2042
@watermelonmaleesha2042 5 жыл бұрын
This comment chain is great
@cowboycarpenter8713
@cowboycarpenter8713 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best advantages to a tube mag. is that you will never misplace or lose it
@RalphReagan
@RalphReagan 5 жыл бұрын
or drop it in the dirt
@Thafuface
@Thafuface 5 жыл бұрын
This is true
@bunberrier
@bunberrier 5 жыл бұрын
And its not sticking way out waiting to get caught on something. I even prefer the 20rd magazines for my AK. Hate that thing sticking way out under the gun. I dont need either of these weapons but given a gift choice I would choose the pump.
@kajetandziebaj6405
@kajetandziebaj6405 5 жыл бұрын
is that a challenge?
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 5 жыл бұрын
Damn good point. There's been a few times when I have seen people go to the range or hunting and forget their mags. You won't have that problem with a tube fed gun.
@richardsnyder3297
@richardsnyder3297 3 жыл бұрын
Paul often says in his videos that “you are going to have to listen to me talk for awhile”. But that is the beauty of his videos. His “talking” is cram packed with substance, not small talk or anecdotes, just solid information. Shooting is done to illustrate a point. I am not sure why I need to spend my time watching other reviewers shoot one or two hundred rounds through a firearm. Paul’s videos are always excellent and worth the time to watch. He is definitely one of the best firearm reviewers on the internet.
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 5 жыл бұрын
great info. I need to do a video on a similar subject but focused on tube fed auto loaders---good reminder
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 5 жыл бұрын
When you do please send me a link.
@silasbelcher3788
@silasbelcher3788 3 жыл бұрын
Was this video ever done? I have a mossberg 930 JM pro series, considering picking up a mossberg 590A1.
@topturretgunner
@topturretgunner 3 жыл бұрын
@@silasbelcher3788 I own a 90's production 590 SP/Tactical. Standard wall 20" barrel with heat shield and ghost ring sight. 8+1 capacity. This is my go to home defense gun and after installing a Magpul Stock and replacing the factory polymer trigger assembly with a metal I'd trust this gun anywhere, anytime. To say that I have a love affair with this shotgun would be an understatement. 'She' is my girlfriend. I find the 590 to be an uber dependable firearm as well as being accurate past 50 yards with rifled slugs. With a 3" inch chamber you have the choice of using 2 3/4" shotshells as well. The tang safety is ergonomic allowing one to engage and disengage the safety without changing your shooting hand position and the large front blade with the dayglo orange on the back of the blade draws the eye quickly. For me the 590 SP was the perfect choice. I'm sure that the 590 A1 with the added durability of a heavy wall barrel would be a no brainer.
@DailyDoseOfCanada
@DailyDoseOfCanada 3 жыл бұрын
@@topturretgunner tang safety is a draw back for me as it makes you break your thumb grip to actuate the safety. Also would not work with my benelli m4 that has a pistol grip. Cross bolt safety with training can be faster imo as I disengage the safety with my inner trigger finger knuckle as my trigger finger goes into the trigger guard to fire. I than reengage the safety with my thumb while still holding the pistol grip. I do have big hands which might help this technique.
@topturretgunner
@topturretgunner 3 жыл бұрын
@@DailyDoseOfCanada Understood. For me a guy with small hands the tang safety on the Mossberg 500 series guns were just more intuitive. I've owned a Benelli back in the day and it was a good shotgun as well.
@ILeftRules
@ILeftRules 5 жыл бұрын
I don't shoot slugs I just let them crawl away
@hshs5756
@hshs5756 5 жыл бұрын
Send your wife into the garden wearing her stiletto pumps and she can skewer them on the heels :-)
@Jak-tm4xz
@Jak-tm4xz 5 жыл бұрын
If I loaded rock salt and a 1 oz rifled slug into a shell. Would it come out melted?
@scythelord
@scythelord 5 жыл бұрын
: Jak : if a slug is in a shell it's called a snail.
@skipfreeman3465
@skipfreeman3465 5 жыл бұрын
ILeftRules lol nice one
@johnweymouth5685
@johnweymouth5685 5 жыл бұрын
ILeftRules less I misunderstood it sounds like you want to punish the perpetrator with corrective incentives by letting him Crawl away in pain, the problems with that is with our liberal court system to day if there's to sides of the story u'll probably get the short end of the stick, so do urself a faver & just make sure there's only one side, ur's.
@toddwebb7521
@toddwebb7521 4 жыл бұрын
Select slug drill was very much part of the training when I did security almost 2 decades ago. It was a facility with dangerous animals and obviously buckshot would be ideal for anti personnel purposes but for lions and tigers and bears(oh my) you would obviously want a slug, and if there was an escaped venomous snake you may even want birdshot
@1337penguinman
@1337penguinman 5 жыл бұрын
I trained and instructed on the 590 extensively in my Navy days. Still love it.
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 5 жыл бұрын
Go with what you know.
@streetsharksbedfordpoint6.933
@streetsharksbedfordpoint6.933 2 ай бұрын
💯💯💯💯🔥💯💯💯💯
@johnjohnmcclane1818
@johnjohnmcclane1818 Жыл бұрын
One advantage of a tube magazine I never see mentioned is that they can't be lost.
@garryowen8673
@garryowen8673 5 жыл бұрын
What did I learn???? Paul can cycle a pump faster than even the Benelli m4 can cycle. Once again I'm impressed.
@bengonzalez5215
@bengonzalez5215 2 жыл бұрын
Wut
@Mister_Belvidere
@Mister_Belvidere 5 жыл бұрын
I bet the grocery store missed you this week. They can usually count on you to buy up a lot of their pork and fruit.
@southernvoltage1288
@southernvoltage1288 5 жыл бұрын
And soda jugs
@WhoWouldWantThisName
@WhoWouldWantThisName 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm sure Costco and Jo-Ann Fabrics are also worried. The fleece rolls might be building up. Of course, I didn't mean worried about Paul as no one needs to worry about him, except Chuck Norris. Chuck needs to be very worried, and I'm sure he knows it.
@loganjones5766
@loganjones5766 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, without seeing the meat target comparison how will we know which shotgun was superior.
@ericjudd9603
@ericjudd9603 5 жыл бұрын
don't forget the beef, its whats for dinner!
@Sophocles13
@Sophocles13 5 жыл бұрын
And jugs of course
@fortawesome1974
@fortawesome1974 4 жыл бұрын
The old Mossberg 590 military version I had, had a 9 shot mag a bayonet lug and in the butt on each side had a ammunition holder that held 2 rounds each for a total of 4 rounds. Great for storing slugs or different ammo than what you thought you would need!! I absolutely loved that gun, it had a heat shield and my bayonet (sorry "fighting knife") did fit on the end of this gun. I was in the Australian Infantry and we used the Buck fighting knife. It go to around the Geneva convention because it (had a blood groove, it was sharp, it had a serrated edge) was a "Fighting Knife" not a bayonet, that just happened to be able to be attached to the end of our rifles!! Plus in conjunction with the scabbard could be used as a wire cutter!!
@kekelaward
@kekelaward 4 жыл бұрын
My first thought when I saw the thumbnail was, "I love the coat, but how'd he manage to get a Mossberg in it's pocket?"
@guypierson5754
@guypierson5754 4 жыл бұрын
HAHA Me too. I was thinking: yeah he could have the VR mags in his pocket and the gun slung in his game bag but WHERE's he gonna hide the mossy?
@unclemikeb
@unclemikeb 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@coreypolite9831
@coreypolite9831 2 жыл бұрын
Little known fact, there is a drone inside of the back flap of that jacket.
@davidgreen5099
@davidgreen5099 5 жыл бұрын
I really love his quiet, understated sense of humor.
@MatteoSixSeventyFour
@MatteoSixSeventyFour 5 жыл бұрын
Woohoo my Thursday installment of Paul Harrel. Best part of Thursday besides the fact tomorrow is Friday!
@SierraBravo347
@SierraBravo347 5 жыл бұрын
Thursday used to just be Fridays ugly sister, now its Paul Harrell day!
@1nv1c7u5m4n30
@1nv1c7u5m4n30 5 жыл бұрын
Amen to that
@panama-canada
@panama-canada 4 жыл бұрын
I admire your mastery of a pump action. Must train to reach that level.
@michaelmcintyre4059
@michaelmcintyre4059 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul, this helps a lot of people, usually older, who realize these are scary times we live in. Basic shotguns for home defense is an important topic. Take care, Michael McIntyre
@aceman1126
@aceman1126 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry, it'll get a lot worse. EDIT: just realized I was replying to a comment that was 2 years old. Sorry
@joshuarobbins9193
@joshuarobbins9193 Жыл бұрын
@@aceman1126 to be fair... it has gotten worse and it will continue to for a while yet.
@aceman1126
@aceman1126 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuarobbins9193 yeah man. It's a damn shame. But God is faithful. Keep your powder dry and God bless you.
@mikepaul3200
@mikepaul3200 Жыл бұрын
2023. Oh its just getting started.
@Lawiah0
@Lawiah0 5 жыл бұрын
If I shot at something more than twice with my shotgun; I can still hear my grandfather yelling, "throw the gun at it, boy."
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor 3 жыл бұрын
Similar, but all I'd hear is the ringing in my ear after he smacked me upside the head.
@streetsharksbedfordpoint6.933
@streetsharksbedfordpoint6.933 2 ай бұрын
U guys wanna go grab some pop tarts!? 😍😍😍😍
@danielmoore409
@danielmoore409 5 жыл бұрын
Most common sense gun videos and gun guy I’ve seen on KZfaq
@GrinderCB
@GrinderCB 5 жыл бұрын
I have to say, these are by far the most educational practical gun videos on YT. I'm a proponent of shotguns for home defense and this video helps me get my head around the idea of pump vs semi-auto. We see lots of vids talking about quick-loading automatics and tactical this and that, but the idea that the average civilian-involved self defense shooting involves only one shot is never mentioned.
@nailswood167
@nailswood167 4 жыл бұрын
“..., and no one can decide what’s right for you, except you.” - Paul Harrell @ 13:03
@newandoldtech5634
@newandoldtech5634 2 жыл бұрын
Cant decide if that statement is right for me.
@joeleonetti8976
@joeleonetti8976 5 жыл бұрын
I was very fortunate that Louis Awerbuck came on a regular basis to the area where I live. I probably took about 15 classes from him including his shotgun. The only real advantage he thought a semiauto shotgun had was one handed operation. One handed operation could be important when having a family that you need to direct with your other hand. As for me, I settled for a Mossberg 590A1 for home defense. I belong to a trap league and shoot weekly (likely 40 weeks a year) with a Mossberg 500. For what it's worth, I think I have now gone about 2,500 to 3,000 rounds without cleaning my Mossberg 500. I have done this on purpose just to see how I could go without cleaning it before there was an issue. I've got a good friend who has taken many shotgun classes with me. He runs a Benelli M4. It is utterly reliable and he is very skilled in running it. At about 300 rounds the Benelli needs to be cleaned. Just sharing what Info I have on the two platforms. Choose what you want and practice with it a lot is probably the most important thing.
@MCMXI1
@MCMXI1 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best instructors I ever had the pleasure of learning from. RIP
@foxsquirrel3038
@foxsquirrel3038 5 жыл бұрын
If only Paul Harrel wasnt perfect then we could have a blooper reel... Maybe he could fake a mistake and pass it off as a blooper?
@allengrant
@allengrant 5 жыл бұрын
Somehow, a vid w/ Paul shooting, and Bennie Hill playing in the background, would be somewhat incongruous! Now if you're talking about YM and Bennie Hill.... I could definitely see that.
@Nick-Stewbreeze
@Nick-Stewbreeze 5 жыл бұрын
Paul will have a blooper reel when chuck norris cries :)
@politicallyunreliable4985
@politicallyunreliable4985 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps he could have Chuck Norris put on one of his jackets to shoot a set of bloopers clips for him?
@JulioMo
@JulioMo 4 жыл бұрын
He would do that just to make us mere mortals feel good about ourselves.
@DARIVSARCHITECTVS
@DARIVSARCHITECTVS 3 жыл бұрын
You have a talent for putting things in the correct perspective, Paul. Thanks! I just bought a VR-60, and it's good to know its true situational limitations
@shawngilliland243
@shawngilliland243 5 жыл бұрын
The VR60 is the most unusual appearing shotgun I've ever seen. Thanks for the real life demonstrations, Mr. Harrell.
@Matt-br5zt
@Matt-br5zt 5 жыл бұрын
Always a good day when Paul Harrell uploads a video.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 5 жыл бұрын
The mag-fed shotgun isn't going to shift its center of gravity as you fire off the rounds, but a tube-fed's c/g will move. Do you think that is an issue?
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 5 жыл бұрын
That is a good point. The tube fed gun will definitely have a different balance after firing a few rounds, especially if you're loaded with something like 15 pellets of 00 buck. But I have never noticed that it made any real difference in handling the gun.
@elooney85
@elooney85 5 жыл бұрын
I regularly use a pump and have never noticed the CG shift, but I do notice the weight reduces as I shoot. When supporting the gun with two hands I don't think it matters, if you are J.M. and firing with one hand while running and reloading that long extension tube... maybe it makes a difference.
@joemo1033
@joemo1033 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff...what...the hell, do you think you are doing?! Seriously?!? Just hanging out watching videos on KZfaq?! Get back to work!!
@unicaller1
@unicaller1 5 жыл бұрын
To me the weight hanging sofar blow the shotgun makes it feel awkward. Other then banging the mag into things I haven't noticed any shootability difference though.
@RADIOACTIVEBUNY
@RADIOACTIVEBUNY 5 жыл бұрын
E.Looney You see that guy’s arms? I don’t think it bothers him either lmao
@calamusgladiofortior2814
@calamusgladiofortior2814 5 жыл бұрын
A good, common-sense examination of the pros and cons of each, sans hype or dogma. Well done, as usual Paul.
@strugglingathome
@strugglingathome 5 жыл бұрын
It’s scary that people like this guy exist. Friendly, honest, unassuming, and could slay you with a pump shotty at 30yrds before you could blink. 😂
@VegieHead11
@VegieHead11 5 жыл бұрын
Always fond of a new Harrell video in my feed. I would be even happier to see more testing on .223/5.56 ammunition, if that ever made its way to the docket. Thanks again for all you do!
@julian9898
@julian9898 5 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda neat stuff for sure. I’m honestly more interested in shotguns for home protection but my situation is more of farmyard pests not two legged idiots. .223/5.56 is definitely up my alley, at least just for the infotainment factor as well as hobby use. Really anything is fine by me and since he has done loads of shotgun videos including the much maligned Judge I’m definitely down for it. Cast me into you vote as well, sounds great. (Odd weights and materials ideally since 55gr and m855 has been beat like a dead horse, and I just picked up 5,000rds of 62gr Barnaul steel cased for competition since my gun shoots them quite well for the money.)
@allengrant
@allengrant 5 жыл бұрын
John-Paul Silke : I'm definitely a 5.56 fan. Depends on your barrel. If you have a 1 in 7 or 8 twist rate barrel, try a heavier projectile, maybe 69 or 77gr. My 1/7 BCM LOVES 69gr. Scenar projectiles. Just a hair slower, but Accuracy and BC are top-notch !! Expensive, but, on the other end, ARE capable of being reloaded 10 times (as Lapua advertises?). Don't know about that yet. Will report about brass life later.
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 жыл бұрын
Well I have a Type97 bullpup with a 1:7 twist and I does like the heavy stuff. I also have a Ruger Precision but that gets a diet of hand loaded accubonds. The T97 eats brass and was actually designed for steel ammo and is really a halfway disposable rifle so I won’t bother getting to fancy with it.
@julian9898
@julian9898 5 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that SWAT teams switched to .223/5.56 because the bullet was actually *less* likely to go through drywall than one shot through a 9mm carbine. (Basically, because of the .223/5.56's tendency to "tumble" post-impact.) Of course, I have no idea if this is all bullshit or not... sounds like a perfect hypothesis for Paul to test :-D
@Stigstigster
@Stigstigster 5 жыл бұрын
+1 for the obscure yet correct use of the word 'bailiwick'.
@ericvaneupen9986
@ericvaneupen9986 5 жыл бұрын
Always to the point, no BS, instructive, never boring and very convincing. Thanks, Paul, for this video (and all the others).
@Databyter
@Databyter 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic comparison. You go thru a lot of effort to be fair to every realistic scenario and the results are not always what would be expected, but always accurate and thoughtful. Glad I found this channel.
@terrybruce5923
@terrybruce5923 5 жыл бұрын
Paul, yet another Interesting video. As a kid, I actually hunted with an old Mossberg Bolt Action 12 gauge and my Game Warden Uncle taught me how to handle it...wish I still had both. I have never owned an auto loader and currently use a pump action. Thanks!
@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG
@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG 5 жыл бұрын
Great presentation as always Paul! I think I’ll stick with my 590A1 and my Shockwave, unless of course I stumble across an extra $1,600 for a Benelli M4.....
@freedomfirst5420
@freedomfirst5420 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed.😂
@GusFogle
@GusFogle 5 жыл бұрын
I've heard some less than great things about the imported Benelli M4's. I've heard numerous people complain about reliability, as well as the relative low capacity (required due to importation laws). I'll stick with my old Mossberg 500 with 20" barrel and 7+1 tube.
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 жыл бұрын
Benelli’s are fantastic but suffer from the price being so high that every hiccup burns deep into your memory.
@allengrant
@allengrant 5 жыл бұрын
Kratos : Roger that..... at least with my 500. I can't even afford to pay attention, much less get an M4
@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG
@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with all you guys, but I hadn’t heard or seen of any reliability issues on the older M4’s. Is it a quality control problem on the newly made M4’s maybe? That’s why I’m perfectly happy with my 590A1!! Anyone tried the new “magazine fed” Mossberg’s yet?
@genemiller4148
@genemiller4148 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the varied scenery in your videos Paul. Pretty country.
@Slugg-O
@Slugg-O 2 жыл бұрын
VERY informative and enlightening. I thought I was aware of the pros and cons of each but this video brought a number of situations to the surface that I had never considered. Thank you!
@roykiefer7713
@roykiefer7713 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul - Thanks for yet another excellent - in every aspect - video, which again causes me to thinks and to learn. Whether for home defense, in a waterfowl blind, or in a tree stand, I’ll stick with my (pump/slide action) Remington 870. For decades, it has proven to be simple, accurate, reliable, durable and highly adaptable for many differing missions. With thousands of shells fired, I’ve had zero weapon-related failures and - put very simply - the darn thing works flawlessly and consistently. I’d sheepishly offer a strong endorsement to one of your major points. Specifically, I cannot imagine a citizen-involved shotgun defensive scenario that would require even five shots to be resolved; I suppose it’s possible, but I’d respectfully suggest one is more likely to be struck by lightning on the same day that he wins the Irish Sweepstakes. BZ on another superb teaching video.
@rickpaul9565
@rickpaul9565 5 жыл бұрын
I'm in agreement on feeling more confident with a pump shotgun. My personal preference is a Mossberg 500 and 535, but the Remington 870 is an excellent choice also. As you mentioned, time and rounds fired to allow for complete familiarity and confidence with one's choice of weapon is of prime importance. Know your weapon.
@smithn.wesson495
@smithn.wesson495 5 жыл бұрын
A new video from Paul......my day just got a whole lot better!!!
@snowfox22
@snowfox22 5 жыл бұрын
Even with shooting experience I always find myself learning at least 1 new thing on every video. Well done Paul keep it up!
@raibeartcahill4295
@raibeartcahill4295 4 жыл бұрын
As usual "spot on"! Paul always puts what is important on point and never adds extraneous bs to complicate the issue! Best gun channel on yt.
@gunner240b8
@gunner240b8 5 жыл бұрын
All about the basics and common sence. That's why I love this channel.
@MultiSycorax
@MultiSycorax 5 жыл бұрын
Every time Paul uploads it's a good day
@dirkbergstrom9751
@dirkbergstrom9751 4 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS the best info coupled with the best skills. I have never seen a Paul Harrell vid I didn't like or find useful! Thanks!!
@UncleTerry
@UncleTerry 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Mossberg 590 as my first shotgun, thanks for your hard work on these prestation Paul
@blroy1018
@blroy1018 4 жыл бұрын
You just gave the best argument for me to keep my Mossberg 590A1. And, I agree with your bottom line. Thanks.
@shipwrek4533
@shipwrek4533 5 жыл бұрын
I sold my 590 a1 when I was hard up for money, worst mistake I've ever made.......and I have four kids.
@556poor7
@556poor7 4 жыл бұрын
I saw them on sale recently, you should go correct your mistake.
@usptact
@usptact 4 жыл бұрын
Picked up one yesterday.
@eggrollsoup
@eggrollsoup 4 жыл бұрын
Vladislavs Dovgalecs where did you buy it?
@mrlundgren2346
@mrlundgren2346 4 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that owns four guns but have no kids. I think you are happier.
@doddgarger6806
@doddgarger6806 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@stevensparks3126
@stevensparks3126 4 жыл бұрын
A great teacher, and a great lesson ! Thank you Paul for helping me to finally learning how to use KZfaq , confirming what I have learned so far and showing new perspectives on shooting. Judging from the fan mail some of your viewers appear to be good people and some are whacko. Teach on ! Take care and may God bless. Simper Fi
@Kickstart_KDE
@Kickstart_KDE 5 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of shell being push into the tube and that combat reload... so slick it gave me chills
@notfamousprepper7369
@notfamousprepper7369 5 жыл бұрын
I'll admit that I favor an autoloader like a Mossberg 930 since I can't work a slide during recoil like a boss the way Paul Harrell does. One of the best channels on YT for sure.
@st.johnsmythe2632
@st.johnsmythe2632 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll most definitely keep my pump action bias. Thank you sir for one great presentation as always. Your work continues to go above and beyond.
@ruez2kill
@ruez2kill 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best shotgun videos I've seen so far, no doubt in my mind.
@Keishu1gamer
@Keishu1gamer 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Harrell you are the man. Thank you so much for all your helpful videos. They truly change the was we think. Also help us look at everything in a different light. Truly appreciated
@michaelvargas2900
@michaelvargas2900 5 жыл бұрын
Best time of the week, for sure!
@2wheeleddemon999
@2wheeleddemon999 5 жыл бұрын
Greatest channel ever.
@chemusvandergeek1209
@chemusvandergeek1209 5 жыл бұрын
I really, really, like how even-handed you appear to be in your analyses, Paul! Keep it up!
@richardguy106
@richardguy106 4 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate your thorough explanations, from the type of ammo used to features on the firearms. Thanks for the video.
@WHOTEEWHO
@WHOTEEWHO 5 жыл бұрын
I'll take one of each
@allengrant
@allengrant 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff on your channel !! THANKS.
@RalphReagan
@RalphReagan 5 жыл бұрын
yes!
@scottwilson5840
@scottwilson5840 5 жыл бұрын
I've learned a lot from this guy. Good video as usual.
@swright1970
@swright1970 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. This was exactly the advice I sought. Well presented, demonstrated, and portrayed.
@thelastneanderthal3171
@thelastneanderthal3171 4 жыл бұрын
As always, an excellent unbiased review. Well done, Sir.
@davyhaynes6716
@davyhaynes6716 4 жыл бұрын
I like those tube mags myself-I find the detachable mags, especially the larger capacity ones, get in the way of comfortable carry and traditional sling carry. The solution for jurisdictions that prohibit loaded weapons is not a detachable magazine, it’s moving.
@leokimvideo
@leokimvideo Жыл бұрын
These's something very cool about pump action shotguns. If you can't clean up a problem with a few shots you only have yourself to blame. Shotguns are the ultimate home defence tool.
@southernvoltage1288
@southernvoltage1288 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a 44 year old man. When I was a kid I would have a great sense of anticipation a few weeks out from Christmas or my birthday. Now I check KZfaq every day for a new Paul Harrell video. Not as cool as a new bike when you’re 9, but I get to do it every week.
@dzlkawboy33
@dzlkawboy33 4 жыл бұрын
I just found Paul's channel, I'm hooked on his style of gun common sense!
@bbarton84
@bbarton84 4 жыл бұрын
I believe a vr60 will be my Christmas gift to myself this year!!
@fpatton
@fpatton 5 жыл бұрын
The best answer is always, "It depends " :)
@brianmccarthy5557
@brianmccarthy5557 3 жыл бұрын
Smart, intelligent, thorough but to the point. Thanks for answering my obvious questions and for the guidance. Paul's the BEST!
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the most gorgeous, lush areas you've filmed in, Paul! Love it.
@joepublicus8992
@joepublicus8992 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Harrell is always informative, and covers the topics we all want to know more about. Beware of the auto loading magazine types of shotguns: they can jam and not feed correctly; my experience with the Catamount Fury with 5 round mags 12 gauge.
@fourteencrows1244
@fourteencrows1244 5 жыл бұрын
Love this guy.
@EXQD2
@EXQD2 5 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful backgrounds of any gun channel!
@--P.R.--
@--P.R.-- 5 жыл бұрын
Paul, it is a great, well articulated video as always. Your work is true appreciated.
@Stellar001100
@Stellar001100 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda sounds like using a semi-auto shotgun that uses a tube magazine is a great compromise.
@NoTimeForThatNow
@NoTimeForThatNow 4 жыл бұрын
Like a Tale of Two Shotties... it was the best of both guns, it was the worst of both guns...
@rexlr695
@rexlr695 4 жыл бұрын
There are still some issues with reliability, but I'm not going to knock anyone that prefers one for home defense. I just personally feel more comfortable with the manual slide action if my family's life depends on it.
@blakebowman5098
@blakebowman5098 4 жыл бұрын
I inherited a Remington 1148 that hung over the wall of the family farm house as long as I can remember. 16 gauge used for decoration. I have taken it out for nostalgia sake a few times; runs like a champ.....a Mossberg 500 I bought for $120 sits by the bed though. The 1148 is in the safe.
@Dugout97
@Dugout97 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the demo. We're still waiting on the 7.5" AR PDW debunking
@mharrison1325
@mharrison1325 3 жыл бұрын
This video is one of my faves and one I recommend to shotgun shooters. Helped me fall in love with my 12ga pump.
@theol3199
@theol3199 5 жыл бұрын
My auto loader that I use for hunting and skeet shooting stays relatively reliable, provided you keep the ammo consistent. I only shoot federal thru it. I rarely have an issue at the skeet range, and the most common jam when hunting is remedied by pulling the charging handle back. That being said the vintage Remington 870 I bought earlier this year has never had an issue yet. I like both, the auto loader with heavy hunting ammo is faster to get back on target but the ole 870 is there when I need flawless function.
@Life_Is_Torture0000
@Life_Is_Torture0000 5 жыл бұрын
My Maverick 88 is loaded with a 3" magnum 00 buck in the chamber and 7 rounds of 2 3/4 hornady critical defense in the tube. Outside of SHTF/WROL, it's hard to imagine a defensive scenario where I'd need more than that. But just in case, I have a saddle with extra buckshot and slugs. If that isn't good enough, things have gone totally to shit and I'm probably dead anyway lol.
@egSmith-sp9gl
@egSmith-sp9gl 4 жыл бұрын
For home defence maybe, for SHTF NO !!!
@MrFurley69
@MrFurley69 4 жыл бұрын
No, then you grab your rifles
@BeansAndBullets1391
@BeansAndBullets1391 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly a shotgun would be a good option for SHTF especially if you also have a side arm, your side arm protects you in close quarters and if it's an auto loader gives you a higher rate of fire, the shotgun protects you in close quarters and with slugs out to medium range, the reality is most combat engagements will happen at 100 years or less making your shotgun adequate for the task, your only real weakness would be penetrating armour, however given the ammo selection it's also a fantastic hunting weapon, everyone talks about how when it hits the fan they'll be bringing down deer like it's going out of style but the reality is the most practical and available food sorce is small game, rabbits, squirrels, that sort of thing, a shotgun will bag small game, medium, and large game, as well as game birds, good luck doing that with your 30.06 or AR15, not saying it can't be done just that it's not super practical
@BeansAndBullets1391
@BeansAndBullets1391 4 жыл бұрын
@Mike Wilhelmson honestly I have shot more rabbits then I can count but I can count on one hand the number of pellets I have found in the meat, my trick is to aim for the spot where the ears meet the head and know your spread pattern, if you pepper the whole bunny, you're to far away, if he ends up being a greasy spot I the yard, you're too close, or using the wrong shot, I prefer #7.5 shot for all my bunny blasting needs
@CaptainSeamus
@CaptainSeamus 4 жыл бұрын
When I told my wife the AK had 6 loaded mags plus an additional 1000 rounds in a carry case, and I asked her if that was sufficient, her reply (and she still reminds me of this) "If that much isn't enough to stop whatever is coming, I shouldn't have started shooting in the first place..." I married a good one...
@chrisxshock
@chrisxshock 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Harrell... I think you are one of the best channels out there and should be the leading gun channels on youtube. Thank you for you knowledge,
@olliehopnoodle4628
@olliehopnoodle4628 4 жыл бұрын
The best part about Paul's video's is he isn't biased. He provides the positives and negatives about any platform.
@GunSam
@GunSam 5 жыл бұрын
One video I would love to see Paul cover, and forgive me if it has already been covered-but i'd like to see a video specifically about home defense putting the AR-15 against a pump action shotgun. Literally everyone I know and their friend prefer the AR-15 for that purpose, and i'm the odd man out that prefers a pump action shotgun.
@SierraBravo347
@SierraBravo347 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Double odd man out...I prefer a pump scattergun AND I own nothing but Revolvers! Just call me Ol' S'cool I guess....
@clukinvar
@clukinvar 5 жыл бұрын
There's a bit about it in one of the older videos, maybe "Shotguns don't suck for home defense," but I would also like to see an updated version. What would be really neat would be shotgun versus ar versus pistol for home defense video.
@SierraBravo347
@SierraBravo347 5 жыл бұрын
@@clukinvar For the Average Joe, it's My Opinion that the shotgun would improve the overall probability of a hit on target. Most would be Hard pressed to hit a moving target in the dark, which would in most cases probably be the scenario they would find themselves in.
@SierraBravo347
@SierraBravo347 5 жыл бұрын
@Eric da' MAJ I couldn't agree more! Plus the shotgun is just one of the most Versatile firearms you can own, it can serve so many purposes. 👍
@christophernemeth421
@christophernemeth421 5 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of an AR or high capacity pcc for home defense, but shotguns are still a great choice. I really doubt that multiple home invaders are going to hang around once the buck shot starts flying.
@Jet2416-Reloading
@Jet2416-Reloading 5 жыл бұрын
Very good video, as always. Thanks for demonstrating the RIA autoloading shotgun. It may or may not be the best of auto shotguns for just anyone but I can imagine it being something a 3-gunner might consider trying. Not sure of the rules on that but it was hypothetical.
@maxwellmortimermontoure7274
@maxwellmortimermontoure7274 5 жыл бұрын
Paul is the best, it's a fact. Thanks for all you do MR. Harrell!
@russ3022
@russ3022 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul, really good information on all of your videos. There is so much junk info out there, it's refreshing to find a channel that has a knowledgeable transfer of information while using verifiable tactics without all the hype and BS.
@slowpokebr549
@slowpokebr549 5 жыл бұрын
I was out of trap and skeet shooting by the time the inertia powered Bennelli's were getting popular, so i can't really speak to their reliability. But, I can say that most gas powered, Remington style autos required a little more care and maintenance in high round count situations than a pump. Myself, I have fired many thousands of rounds through an A5 Browning in the field or at the range and very rarely had a malfunction. Love or hate a hump gun, they are exceedingly reliable.
@hammerslammer3006
@hammerslammer3006 5 жыл бұрын
Have been around alot of the bottom of the barrel autos and tacticool autos. Seems they have alot of issues with cycling. Have a hump back and a 48 rem.have very little trouble with them. Have a few modern autos win sx3, sx4, browning gold , and a SBE3. All function flawlessly in the field. You get what you pay for with auto shotguns. $100-150 pump shotguns work very well. So if I wasnt a hunter or clay shooter and just needed a defense shotgun it would be a pump or sxs.
@chubbycatfish4573
@chubbycatfish4573 5 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of the RI VR60. Pretty neat.
@hogue3666
@hogue3666 5 жыл бұрын
Same price point at about $400
@Spike-13
@Spike-13 5 жыл бұрын
It's a clone of the MKA 1919 with some changes
@borisbuliak3626
@borisbuliak3626 5 жыл бұрын
Old news vr80 is out now, still keeping a my 20 pump it is plenty and all the shotshells in my household.
@ironwolfF1
@ironwolfF1 4 жыл бұрын
You should check out RIA's VR 80, she's a sweetie.
@neilpieterse9614
@neilpieterse9614 4 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a video where he hasnt touched all the bases regarding Q and A that might come up. Every video is informative and to the point. Thanks for a great channel.
@grantorino2009
@grantorino2009 5 жыл бұрын
Simply an outstanding review. Keep up the good work.
@FilterExel
@FilterExel 5 жыл бұрын
I could only wish to be as good with a pump shotgun.
@joeleonetti8976
@joeleonetti8976 5 жыл бұрын
FilterExel what really helped me was joining a local trap league that meets once a week. We shoot 50 rounds each week. If you bring your home defense shotgun I guaranteed after a year of league you can load it smoothly without looking. Shooting doubles will get you skilled at fast but accurate follow up shots.
@MrGible
@MrGible 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with Joe, learn how to skeet shoot. It will teach you to aim at moving targets.
@djoliver3145
@djoliver3145 5 жыл бұрын
Practice, practice, practice. You can get there.
@opoponaxfreetoshus296
@opoponaxfreetoshus296 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. I RSO at a shotgun range and have seen first timers go from being tentative about pump (they usually want to rent the autoloaders) to being quite comfortable in just a few rounds. Often, when they shoot trap just a couple of times, it becomes second nature. Then they want to shoot to skeet.
@ADRay1999
@ADRay1999 5 жыл бұрын
I think both are fine shotguns
@milehighgimpster
@milehighgimpster 5 жыл бұрын
Agree
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think I would have fun shooting either one of those.
@marcuschauvin7039
@marcuschauvin7039 5 жыл бұрын
Great shotgun, but I still love my Saiga 410 with a 30 round drum mag
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 жыл бұрын
Moss 590 has a few more parts in metal vs plastic but honestly either is a fine gun unless you tend to swing it like a bat at random piñatas every other week. For me my 12” double OU is enough. If I ever need more then that I’m buggered anyways and I seriously doubt my middle name is Rambo. (Mine is for farm pests primarily as well as fishing near grizzlies so it’s light enough that I will pack it and got plenty enough horsepower to stop whatever walks this earth if I do my part and load it right).
@LawlessNate
@LawlessNate 5 жыл бұрын
There is a LOT of misinformation about 500 vs 590 vs 590a1 out there. The only difference between the 500s and 590s are the 590 has a thicker barrel and the models with a 20" barrel have a bayonet lug. The 590a1 has these two additional features plus the trigger guard is aluminum rather than polymer and the barrel is parkerized rather than blued. PS: The spaz shotgun is actually not very good. They are pretty unreliable compared to other more modern offerings.
@Squat5000
@Squat5000 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have shot both pump and auto for years, recently got break barrel as well. I love each of them for their own quirks and benefits. 590a1 is my go to. It's damn near impossible to have a misfire that prevents the next round from going bang and that's the most important thing for me with that platform.
@TheTantanski
@TheTantanski 5 жыл бұрын
What you get from Paul Harrell video: Articulate, concise, to the point, and unbiased to the max, while portraying cons and pros of all firearms.! TOP GUN CHANNEL on KZfaq.!!
@jargamund
@jargamund 4 жыл бұрын
I love that when he's doing the accuracy test there's a legit cow in the background that goes "Moooo"
@misterbaker9728
@misterbaker9728 5 жыл бұрын
Love your vids!! Love the sound of gun fire then a faint “moooo” from a cow
@r.powell2351
@r.powell2351 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly the review I was looking for. You just earned a subscriber, sir.
@mikejensen6684
@mikejensen6684 5 жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan of the Mossberg 590A1. It is my personal choice. I must admit though, I've never had any malfunctions from any pump action shotgun. It remains my favorite platform for most of my needs. Thanks for a great video.
@privateer454
@privateer454 3 жыл бұрын
As usual, and demonstrated so well by Paul, training is the most important factor. However, I find it curious that many of the knocks on magazine shotguns (mag too long, in the way, unwieldy, may be forgotten, etc.), never seem to get applied to sporting AR and AK platforms. I just don’t see many users advocating replacing mag fed AR's with lever action rifles.
@ponthis1
@ponthis1 5 жыл бұрын
The last filming location looked very much like the pasture behind the house I grew up in. That house being in central Kentucky.
@andyostertag
@andyostertag 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Paul for sharing your experience and common sense. As a rule, simple is better and more open to options.
@Brian-yc3sm
@Brian-yc3sm 5 жыл бұрын
great points on both options. I come here for insight and nuance and I am never disappointed
@hakjobtm7472
@hakjobtm7472 5 жыл бұрын
I would personally love to see your opinion on rifle-caliber pistols and how they'd compare to standard pistols and standard rifles. I've always wanted to compare the three but have never had access to them all at the same time.
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