Personality Trait Tier List - Crusader Kings 3

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Ever wondered what the best education traits were for your kids in crusader kings 3. Well this is how you properly educate your kids to have absolutely broken heirs in your dynasty family line.
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Table of Contents
Ambitious 0:52
Arbitrary 1:10
Arrogant 1:38
Brave 2:20
Callous 3:05
Calm 3:20
Chaste 3:39
Compassionate 4:38
Content 5:50
Cynical 6:46
Craven 7:00
Deceitful 7:42
Diligent 8:30
Fickle 9:45
Forgiving 10:15
Generous 11:00
Gluttonous 11:50
Greedy 12:50
Gregarious 14:10
Honest 15:40
Humble 16:30
Impatient 17:30
Just 18:17
Lazy 19:09
Lustful 19:50
Paranoid 20:30
Patient 21:40
Sadistic 20:16
Shy 23:00
Stubborn 23:49
Temperate 24:19
Trusting 24:47
Vengeful 25:16
Wrathful 26:10
Zealous 26:48
Shroom Boi NT 27:30

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@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

SUB TO ZIELEY -> kzfaq.info Let me know what you think about the tier list, what would you change and why? Also my links: SUBSCRIBE HERE ▶ - kzfaq.info/love/w-W... TWITTER 🐦- twitter.com/OttawaWelshman DISCORD 🟣 - www.discord.io/ottawawelshman PATREON - www.patreon.com/OttawaWelshman Email: OttawaWelshman@Gmail.com

@Zieley Жыл бұрын

plz buy our NFTs

@brandonsims7105 Жыл бұрын

When bingo 2 coming out?

@wsw2291 Жыл бұрын

Love both you guys' content, keep it up! Great video.

@jonathanallard2128 Жыл бұрын

Brave in D tier are you kidding? A tier for me. I practically NEVER die in battle. If I have the brave trait, I don't involve myself in them. Like one of you pointed out, decent commanders aren't exactly rare, especially at higher ranks. It's also virtuous to Asatru and other religions. Humble A tier is also weird to me, it's stress machine to the one who wishes to expand.

@moreDLCdaddy Жыл бұрын

Tuskular made the same video id like to see a discussion kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oOCPpbGbz5nOqac.html

@cptobvius Жыл бұрын

Gregarious is S tier in my opinion. That feast stress loss is so good and it pops up as a good modifier for a lot of event decisions that you would want to take anyway.

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Facts ey! Maybe that one should be bumped up!

@harveysaavedra6309 Жыл бұрын

You gain stress if you fail a sway or friend scheme if gregerious, my alfred the great campaign died because the pope wont like me and stress keeps piling up and i never noticed where it came from

@JacoDeltaco Жыл бұрын

@@harveysaavedra6309 it on you not on Gregarious Gregarious dont give you stress at random YOU CHOSE to sway even if you are bad at it even if close of dying it your misstake dont shift the blame I have lost my first king ever to stress I did not know max stress kill lol but it still my fault because it was my choice

@deusvult6920 Жыл бұрын

Until you need to sway the Pope

@I_Use_Soap Жыл бұрын

@@JacoDeltaco Having a trait that basically makes Swaying a non-option is definitely a net negative.

@ludwigvangaming1822 Жыл бұрын

Brave is really good in my opinion. The +100% death or capture thing is I think neutralized by the +3 prowess because I have never been captured or killed whilst leading my army as a brave ruler, which makes a flat +2 martial (really helps with the amount of levies you get) and a flat +10 opinion from all your vassals.

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Yeah when you're bigger it's not too bad! And how often are you really losing battles? And how often are you really loving battles and not reloading the save?

@ludwigvangaming1822 Жыл бұрын

@@OttawaWelshman I never reload my saves, I always play Iron Man.

@z_ro4818 Жыл бұрын

@@ludwigvangaming1822 fr

@MYPSYAI Жыл бұрын

Exactly. It really shows how limited Ziely and the Welshmans playstyle experience is. I always see them play stewardship and learning style characters, but if you have a strong leader and use direct command you will become a living legend in your 40s

@ZMorri Жыл бұрын

Also 1pt in chivalry makes your death almost impossible. If you're brave you're probably going heavy martial and in the case it's extremely good. You become famous so fast. A at least. D is CRIMINAL.

@ayyyyylmao Жыл бұрын

I think Impatient is really underrated because it unlocks a decision that allows you to execute a scheme immediately. If you have a 95% success chance anyways there is literally no reason for you to wait 12 months and click away all the events on every scheme so it can be quite handy on an intrigue character

@yoanawramow8809 Жыл бұрын

Wow I didn't know that, I really never pick impatient but this changes things a bit...

@homocatphenomena7168 2 ай бұрын

Also with the new update you can rush to events to get there sooner, so you won't be late and miss events as often.

@anthonycarver971 Жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, I took paranoid on one of my kids because I preferred the younger child and knew my character was about to die. Once my paranoid child came into power they literally died of a heart attack within a month letting me pass the kingdom on to their younger better sibling😂

@Chadius_Thundercock 10 ай бұрын

I made my younger, bastard son have paranoid, the little bastard murdered his older brother(the heir) then probably killed my wife(it’s very convenient who she died while 5 months pregnant) to make sure he got the throne. I guess he was afraid of having no power I guess

@johnnyzhu9867 Жыл бұрын

Sadistic is A tier for me, S if not catholic. The stress loss from executing prisoners is huge. You never need to worry about stress

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Yeeee you gotta love it!

@primoxanthous511 Жыл бұрын

Not to mention the huge dread.

@thomasw9587 Жыл бұрын

Murder everything

@forevergamer1374 Жыл бұрын

And you can murder your own children witch makes it easier to manage the succession

@joeelmergreen5121 Жыл бұрын

downside is your heir goes on a court murder spree and is extremely hated on succession

@arnodorian3548 Жыл бұрын

one reason to choose paranoid: you are trying to see how far you can get with the worst traits.

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Video idea 💡 🤔 hehehehe

@Amibingus Жыл бұрын

@@OttawaWelshman and dont forged glass monument its very good when you play tall

@benjamin5370 Жыл бұрын

shy is just as bad as paranoid I think bc you gain stress when you feast, I think you gain more stress with shy than any other trait

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Facts ey, but you do get plus 1 learning, but other than that, yeah I feel you!

@Kingedwardiii2003 Жыл бұрын

I love shy when I’m going for an Octavian type ruler. Always learning and ruling like a competent ruler but totally socially autistic.

@meneldal Жыл бұрын

Shy is 5 points you can put somewhere else in the ruler designer.

@benjamin5370 Жыл бұрын

@@meneldal this is about when you picking traits for your kids, if you are in the ruler designer it doesn’t matter what points things are bc you have access to all the best ones

@athras8822 Жыл бұрын

@@benjamin5370 For kids, shy is usually grouped with impatient and gluttonous, and both of those are better than shy.

@mirrormonkey2 Жыл бұрын

Arrogant can be really crucial if you start tribal and as a tiny chief. 1 prestige/month can really make a huge difference. It gives you men ar arms, you need it for those early conquests etc

@michaelneely123 Жыл бұрын

Brave is amazing on a martial character, if you have good prowess and lead your troops you are not likely to lose unless you make a big mistake

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Hehe I do be making mistakes! You make a great point though!

@minnumseerrund Жыл бұрын

@@OttawaWelshman Your mistake seems to be not putting a point into the Gallant tree

@TheFinnfluencer Жыл бұрын

21:28 okay I accept your challenge I would take paranoid in a situation where the character already has 2 bad traits and they’re next in line to the throne, and so they die faster from stress and I can just play the next character (eg their son)

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Hmmm the only thing is though, you wouldn't know who the next ruler would be until AFTER you took paranoid!

@TheFinnfluencer Жыл бұрын

@@OttawaWelshman 🤓

@gimmethegepgun Жыл бұрын

@@OttawaWelshman Sure you do. Don't marry them to anyone (or, if they're male, marry them to an old lady) and the next in line will be your next child.

@tabletbrothers3477 Жыл бұрын

No, because paranoid would decrease hostile scheme success chance.

@TheFinnfluencer Жыл бұрын

@@tabletbrothers3477 no as in when I play the character they will get more stressed from everything and die faster

@brookb5890 Жыл бұрын

Now that you know each other's least favorite traits... I feel it's time to create rulers for each other to play as😂

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Brook, are you not the same person that commented we should do a succession game together? Days you are FULL of good ideas! I love this!

@brookb5890 Жыл бұрын

@@OttawaWelshman I am! And I'm so glad you think so 😂

@darkc2656 Жыл бұрын

I think that sadistic is one of the best traits , especially early in game to easily deal with succession

@jackochainsaw Жыл бұрын

My favourite for intrigue play. Love it!

@TheKillaShow Жыл бұрын

killing your own children because of succession is small brain behavior.

@wsw2291 Жыл бұрын

A brief case for Brave: I often make custom characters as a Tribal count and give my character huge prowess and martial to gobble up land quickly. If you take Brave and use your first perk point in Chivalry, you cancel out the death likelihood. Also you get an attraction bonus to get your dynasty going early.

@alffe7038 Жыл бұрын

Gregarius is A maby low S tier. Because of the stress loss from meeting peers

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Yeah thats honestly so nice to have!

@MYPSYAI Жыл бұрын

I play vikings, so I use my leader as a commander. Brave is A tier my dude. You take the first perk from chivalry lifestyle, and negate any penalty. I never lost a brave leader in battle. Just saying, brave wrathful vengeful are all A/S tier for the direct command style, which is a really strong playstyle.

@iulianju7893 Жыл бұрын

Paranoid combine with Sadistic is super fun for an intrigue / torturer character. You can literally profit by torturing the people you are paranoid about. Overall you end up with a huge intrigue buff and a ton of flavor.

@misfitmismagius692 Жыл бұрын

Exactly! That's the joy of being a Paranoid Sadist 😆 but, if you were to have Ambitious, that's an all round good stat pool, with Sadistic for the stress loss!

@leofled4474 Жыл бұрын

I lost money and sent my heir to the university, then i unintentionally got both of them. It was very bad for me

@jcritzz7837 Жыл бұрын

Forgiving has the abandon hooks decision which is minus 50 stress so a lot of the stress gain from it can be megated

@greekfoxgod5611 Жыл бұрын

Yes, but as a wise goose once said: "Peace was never an Option"

@user-ed7ji1br7d Жыл бұрын

Forgiving allows you ALWAYS to keep stress level at 0. You must have prisoners, then free them for hooks and then forgive. If you have forgiving you will never care about your stress level. Forgiving + diligent is powerful combination.

@Tortellobello45 Жыл бұрын

@@user-ed7ji1br7d Ck3 is easily the most exploitable Paradox game

@ethancash7735 Жыл бұрын

Finally I needed this I’m doing a India campaign and I need the best traits for my ruler

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Honestly, after we recorded this I started paying more attention to my kids and it helps so much

@ethancash7735 Жыл бұрын

@@OttawaWelshman Can you do a video where you play as Munda in 867 a nation with one county in India and is surrounded by powerful nations like really powerful you can barely get anywhere especially when your character is 57 years old and with like a five year old son and everybody else plays dirty and for your goal you can figure it out for yourself

@Honey-zt4lg Жыл бұрын

Love it! 22:07 I mainly don't take sadistic because I run schemes on the grandkids instead of my actually kids for generations to come. Stay one step ahead after the first life.

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Ahhh you be playing that long game!!!! Smarrttt

@Joram647 Жыл бұрын

Forgiving is the most under rated trait in the game, imo. Yea, it has a lot of stress events attached to it, but the abandon hooks ability more than makes up for it. I find in all of my games with all of my characters I always have extra hooks laying around not good for anything else that can be thrown away to the abandon hook decision. Basically, if you have the forgiving trait, you will never have to worry about stress ever again

@whosneekoh Жыл бұрын

Surprised at the brave rating. I think the chance of death increase is pretty overblown, and it often gives great options in certain events. At least an A for me

@Domith81 Жыл бұрын

Sadistic is triple S tier, just war non-stop and kill everyone that isnt worth money for stress reduction. I would take this trait and not have the other two traits its so powerful.

@fishy4560 Жыл бұрын

Paranoid is ok to put on your childen who will not inherit, so when you marry them off they dont die. So that the alliance gets nullifyed

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Interesting!

@cavveman Жыл бұрын

Generous is actually good for loosing stress for loosing parties. Combine it with gregarious and you can loose quite a lot of stress from the diligent descision.

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Yeee that's what I been saying! @zieley is just a cheap bastard 🤣🤣😉😉

@digitaljungle7154 Жыл бұрын

No way, generous gives you stress for revoking titles

@gimmethegepgun Жыл бұрын

Generous is undoubtedly either the worst or second worst trait in the game. The only thing that can compete is Paranoid. You realize that it reduces your income from vassal taxes as well, right? And the lower income means that cash events give you less money? Besides which, in the child event to get the trait, it competes with Diligent and Patient. Diligent, of course, being one of the best traits in the game, and Patient being one that doesn't delete your money for no reason (also, +2 learning is decent)

@mohamedjear8917 Жыл бұрын

The worst traits are: lazy, craven, impatient, gluttonous and paranoid. Which are basically how I define myself 🙂

@vincentgaming1619 Жыл бұрын

Zealous is a easy S tier because you can execute heretics for stress loss.

@Tortellobello45 Жыл бұрын

Sadistic too but with everyone which makes it even better

@dianabialaskahansen2972 Жыл бұрын

I find it difficult to truly rate the personality traits, because a lot of it depends of the religion/culture of your character. Personally I see Brave as an S-tier trait in most cases. Especially as I absolutely love playing Norse, where Brave is a virtue and also adds piety. Leading your troops on raids, getting viking trait and becoming filthy rich, definitely great.

@pondiker7366 Жыл бұрын

paranoid just has so many things going against it, like often when it pops up during education you get to choose between it, ambitious and sadistic, further disincentivizing picking it

@E333E Жыл бұрын

Wrathful should be an A tier maybe even S tier. Being able to arrest anyone who's wanted without starting a civil war is pretty nice.

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

WOWOW I actually did not even know that was the case! So cool!

@FeelFree2RateMyENG Жыл бұрын

Forgiving is quite useful in my playthrough Because it have an option to "Abandon Hook for stress Loss" And my character have Shy trait which mean he can barely do anything without gaining stress . So i just go to the prisoners list and negotiate release some of them with weak hook on, then i just Abandon it for 30 stress loss each

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

yeah facts! That is actually OP!

@pork_on Жыл бұрын

Your guys’ humour is class and you bounce off each other very well

@cosubo8509 Жыл бұрын

My two favourite creators, also brave is great if you are building a martial character because if you have decent prowess and martial I find you never get captured.

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Ahhh see I never thought about it like that! Also thanks for such a nice comment, I will pass the info to Zieley!

@TheGrunaldi Жыл бұрын

Arrogant is very good for Tribal that +1 Prestige help you keep stay out of the negative and helps in managing Men at Arms cost also Just gives a lot of stress for executions so no free piety :P

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

ahhh Just would be quite brutal if you were playing as Norse

@Jess-oo4tj Жыл бұрын

Lustful isn't that bad to play with if you don't have a confederate partition as your succession type. The easiest way to farm renown and gold is by having lots of kids, marrying them off to neighbouring rulers, and then getting the stewardship perk of getting paid for hooks.

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

You're going to like the next video I think!

@stanke1488 Жыл бұрын

Why is no one talking about Callous? Its so underrated but is easily A-S tier. Stress loss is HUGE, never had a mental breakdown while having Callous.

@FlappyOW Жыл бұрын

Best collab duo for strategy games, keep up the great work guys!

@David_Bower Жыл бұрын

I'd like to see CK3 personality traits ranked 1, 2, and 3 for all 12 of the in game trait events which always gives you choice between. 1) Craven, Lazy, Arbitrary 2) Arrogant, Compassionate, Callous 3) Deceitful, Honest, Humble 4) Generous, Diligent, Patient 5) Wrathful, Forgiving, Fickle 6) Vengeful, Chaste, Stubborn 7) Just, Cynical, Temperate 8) Greedy, Gregarious, Lustful 9) Brave, Calm, Zealous 10) Ambitious, Sadistic, Paranoid 11) Content, Fickle, Trusting 12) Impatient, Shy, Gluttonous.

@Brayslayer Жыл бұрын

If I recall it's actually 8) greedy, gregarious, lustful

@kakaouette Жыл бұрын

I would put Honest higher because it gives stress loss on exposing secrets like Just. As you said discovering secrets is super easy so it's free stress loss. And Wrathful I would lower it because you may end up murdering someone during feasts (maybe hunt as well?), including your best heir or some other important character - than can really mess up your plans and this is not a choice, you only get a choice after the murder to kill some witness as well but it already happened.

@Igetit-vq5jk Жыл бұрын

Love the vids man. Keep em up!

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Thanks! This was quick and dirty but I have a few already recorded that I am PUMPED for!

@Igetit-vq5jk Жыл бұрын

@@OttawaWelshman Hope you start streaming man! Would be awesome to just see a full campaign with no editing.

@JohnSmith-bs9ym Жыл бұрын

I love how if you are ambitious and diligent, you're almost as good as a natural born genius...kinda like in real life.

@codexaeterna Жыл бұрын

I actually played a character who was paranoid for RP, but she was also sadistic and I had no issues with stress because I always kept a stable of captives for torturing. She was also a lunatic which really made some funny events in that playthrough. Good times.

@user-wm5qd9kl3q 4 ай бұрын

Laziness is the most underrated trait. For minus one skill point (which is very little), we don't pay attention to stress. Moreover, since this is a negative trait, we can set it and also get points.

@lucariofan6500 Жыл бұрын

From my experience there are only 12 childhood trait events and seeing as there are 35 personality traits this means that only one of the traits appears in two of those (it's if I remember correctly fickle). This means that in this video the traits are judged upon in a vacuum. Which is not really that much of a problem, but it also means that some traits probably could swap places

@gimmethegepgun Жыл бұрын

Yes, it's Fickle. Fickle/Content/Trusting and Fickle/Wrathful/Forgiving.

@schwingedeshaehers Жыл бұрын

they come sometimes with different traits for the same event

@TopSoulMan Жыл бұрын

Stubborn has a hidden weakness.. I like to bribe my vassals when they join factions. My stubborn character gains a TON of stress when i gift people money. Makes managing vassals very difficult. Edit: Everyone is correct that it is Greedy I am thinking of

@rileykiller5 Жыл бұрын

It’s greedy that gives you stress from gifting not stubborn.

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

yeah, im like 98% sure it is the greedy trait that does that, but I could be wrong.

@Amy_the_Lizard Жыл бұрын

Stubborn doesn't do that, you're confusing it with Greedy - though since they're both green it's an easy mistake to make

@anghelutavictor543 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video man, keep it up, love ur content 💯

@anghelutavictor543 Жыл бұрын

Brave in D tier?? Still a great video, but still...

@Mr92094 Жыл бұрын

Underrated part of wrathful is the punish criminals decision. Since you usually are high martial/prowess it’s an easy way to capture vassals to either cull factions or revoke a title without civil war by winning the duel. Paranoid is a good way to kill a bad first heir if nothing else from stress

@James-712 Жыл бұрын

Arrogant is probably lower because it leads to stress alot

@ludwigvangaming1822 Жыл бұрын

Your videos really helped me step up my play in CK3. Thanks

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it! Thanks for such a nice comment!

@PompousBigelow Жыл бұрын

Awesome tier list. Would love to see one for traits we want/wouldn’t want on vassals. Such as ambitious or vengeful being something you wouldn’t want

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Damn that's a great idea!!!

@NavigatorGamingC Жыл бұрын

Brave but go down the gallant tree is a pretty amazing combo without a doubt A tier. The Attraction opinion is also pretty nice.

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

OOOOuuuuu you know i dint think of combining those two!

@ribbonwing Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree with the other comments about Paranoid - it's for 'live fast, do lots of intrigue, die young' builds, on the occasions you want those.

@Twiska Жыл бұрын

Sadistic is S tier for the Norse. Stress loss for executing prisoners. Combined with piety gain with their religion and you have a way to keep stress low and piety high by constantly raiding, capturing then executing.

@fryenchill2817 Жыл бұрын

With forgiving, you can just release lowborn prisoners for a hook, then forgive the hook for stress loss, which makes it the best stress loss trait in the game if you're playing in a way that gets you tons of prisoners.

@Iollipop87 Жыл бұрын

Sadistic is easilly S or high A tier. The fact that you can kill off kids is amazing. Especially if you somehow fucked up (we all have at some point) and have heirs that are outside of your dynasty. It can be the only saviour in an ironman game. Do not underestimate the power of the dark side xD Having one sinful trait is not gonna kill you, even if you work alot with piety. You make it sound way worse than it is ^^ Also trusting IMO deserves to be lowest of D tiers, maybe even F tier. It has like zero benefits other than 2 diplomacy, the rest is absolute trash with it. It's an NPC trait, you love having vassals with this trait, but having it on yourself or kids? Hell no. It's really bad.

@snapwilson316 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this. I like giving Chaste for my kids because I find that after they're grown and they're on their own while I'm still ruling, I find that it keeps them out of trouble until I can take control of them. By the same token, that's why I try to avoid Lustful.

@dimitrioskoliousis1122 Жыл бұрын

He deserves a lot more subsribers!!! Keep up the good work

@phantomboy9194 Жыл бұрын

Whenever i wake up and see a Ottawa welshmen my day gets better so keep it up ❤️

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Abdul! Youre the man! hope the Tier list helps you :D

@phantomboy9194 Жыл бұрын

@@OttawaWelshman its helpful to see someone else’s opinion because it can make your opinion better

@simoncodrington Жыл бұрын

Both you guys are S rank in my books! Another great video ♥️

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Wowowowo thanks so much Simon! :D Youre a kind lad!

@koiosdamocles1090 Жыл бұрын

content has a beautiful +20 same opinion bonus which is pretty useful for keeping your realm peaceful even if you don't have a good diplomat ruler. also gregarious is A for me because it has no downsides.

@LeFilayMignon Жыл бұрын

I love Brave. Good Martial for troops. Prowess for duel and power move. Free opinion bonus from vassal. And it makes the hunting decision so good! I’ll take that -50 sometimes -70 stress for 50 gold every month! I see no downside having this trait at all!

@user-tb7ml8kz7h Жыл бұрын

A reason to get paranoid: When you want to start with "strengthen bloodline" decision, but also want to stress up to level 3 to get "lunatic" for the glass monument in a single life.

@TwinHypeBack Ай бұрын

The idea of a Chad commander that runs away had me dead

@greekfoxgod5611 Жыл бұрын

Just as side note I have ~900 Hours in this Game so I think I know quite a bit about ck3: -Ambitious: A -Arbitrary: B -Arrogant: B -Brave: A -Callous: A -Calm: C -Chaste: D -Compassionate: F -Content: A -Cynical: A -Craven: D -Deceitful: B -Diligent: S -Fickle: C -Forgiving: F -Generous: D -Gluttonous: D -Greedy: D -Gregarious: B -Honest: F -Humble: A -Impatient: B -Just: C -Lazy: F -Lustful: B -Paranoid: F -Patient: S -Sadistic: A -Shy: F -Stubborn: A -Temperate: S -Trusting: F -Vengeful: B -Wrathful: C -Zealous: A

@Brayslayer Жыл бұрын

Ok as someone with 1000+ hours how Is compassionate worse than Paranoid

@greekfoxgod5611 Жыл бұрын

@@Brayslayer Thanks for the Hint, that was a typo

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

DAMNNN! Dude went out and made their own tier list for the comment! Respect! Thats some serious effort right there!

@greekfoxgod5611 Жыл бұрын

@@OttawaWelshman I even wanted to make an explaination for each trait, but I didn't want to write a whole Book.

@reflex9375 Жыл бұрын

I pretty much agree with the list with one exception, the Brave trait, I would definitely rank that higher

@SaM-qr8ri Жыл бұрын

The stress from diligent can be good sometimes aswell, like when you prock that athletic trait first breakdown

@ShortRound29 Ай бұрын

What makes lustful bad is when your heir has it while waiting for you to die, longer you give them time as npc the more likely they’ll get the adulterer trait. If you quickly go through succession it’s pretty good.

@RuinnTheGreat Жыл бұрын

i have never been so disappointed in you mr Welshman

@MrVentches Жыл бұрын

I would have loved if youd also talked about some of the most common events maybe, that are based on your personality. some of these traits have some very good/bad events that can make or break them.

@ArcticKrampus 4 ай бұрын

Something I consider when picking traits for my heir is how the AI is going to control them. I would rank Compassionate higher since that character will make friends and stay out of trouble making succession a smoother process.

@Crispebakein Жыл бұрын

Generous can work very well with diligent. If you have more than enough money than you’ll ever need, you can develop your capital and then gift gold to reduce stress with generous. Plus you don’t even have to gift a lot of gold. You can gift to your courtiers or random family members and you only give them a little bit of gold, and still get the same amount of stress loss from generous.

@TheSolarium18 Жыл бұрын

The best trait by far is „generous“ (especially in endgame) in combination with creating your own religion where you are the pope in combination with communions where you will get gold presence every 3 seconds ranging from 100 to 1500 gold and the cultural tradition where gold presences are more common and if you do them you get +20% opinion bonus. Combine that with a good diplomatic education and the skill where you get more opinion bonus on presences. Now you have nearly infinite money and you can get every character to +100 opinion no matter how he hates you in addition you get stress relief every time you make a money present through generous which basically means stress is no longer relevant and you also get the money back immediately. Combine that with „diligent“ and the development option which comes with it and you are very OP. (stress is really no problem at all now, money too and you can make everybody love you through money) It’s the most effective way in endgame to create a very stable kingdome and very stable character

@AndPennyThought 28 күн бұрын

I think Craven and Paranoid have a hidden effect that makes you immune to random death events.

@chrispratt3666 Жыл бұрын

Sometimes being able to gain stress on demand is good. There are several mechanics in game that give bonuses per stress level. Getting Athletic or Journaller from a mental break is always nice. As long as you have a bit of disease resistance you can camp out at level 2 stress relatively safely. To me that makes Honest and Just very good traits. You can blackmail and get money if you want some stress. You can reveal secrets to reduce stress. I think there's an argument for Just being as high as S tier and Honest being as high as A.

@KalisaFox Жыл бұрын

big one for me is brave, i would at least rate that c, but would probably put it B personally, if your character is not leading the 100% doesnt matter and it only really matters if your losing, that or using it strictly for that 100% increased chance to kill off unwanted children since u can easily control the armys and encourage them to lose. Sadistic is an S for me as well as A for vengfull for viking or any group that can raid. Being able to clear stress anytime by exicuting afew prisoners is amazing and you should always have a stock of prisoners if your raiding.

@electricVGC Жыл бұрын

tbh I actually don't mind impatient cuz expedite schemes is funny asf

@electricVGC Жыл бұрын

my favourite thing is that you didn't even link Zieley in the description and tbh I don't think anyone will be able to guess that spelling by ear

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

@@electricVGC yeee been busy! Will link him in 2 seconds :) great catch

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

True ey!I have only don't that once but it did go Hella quick

@LilGamingYes Жыл бұрын

Fun point about Paranoid; you can't hire knights, but you can recruit them from prison. I think this is an oversight and it SHOULD give stress, even more than the normal hiring. But it doesn't. Just Paradox things. EDIT: Stubborn should have a stress gain mallus in some occasions. Like when you're forced to "concede" or admit you're wrong. No events come to mind to represent it, but I'm sure you understand what I mean.

@Mr92094 Жыл бұрын

Surrendering a war?

@rockytherock1001 Жыл бұрын

The builds I go for depending on what my child wants to do. Stewardship: diligent, temperate, stubborn Intrigue: arbitrary, cynical, deceitful or fickle or sadistic Learning: content, diligent, just (I like to pair stewardship with learning) Martial: ambitious, wrathful/vengeful, sadistic Diplomacy; gregarious, honest, just I’m sure i missed some but all subject one what u trying to accomplish but just what I prefer with my heir builds.

@Silverhand404 Жыл бұрын

+100% death or capture chance means nothing when you are NOT commanding your troops, and if combined with certain things that allow you to duel people (criminals or rivals) to death it gets really OP.

@tfljmartis7681 Жыл бұрын

I take paranoid because I'm worried about what the voices would do if I don't

@forevergamer1374 Жыл бұрын

Forgiving is one of the best for stress release, if you have a strong hook and abandon it you bet about 120 stress release. And you can get easely a strong hook using the lovers secret and blackmailing the woman. And astrong hook can be used from time to time, so you only need some strong hooks and dont need to always get new ones.

@Riphagen1902 2 ай бұрын

super chill video pls do a traditions tier list guys !

@linamayela Жыл бұрын

Forgiving is actually good imo, its kind of easy finding secrets so when I do find one I'll do a blackmail then immediately abandon hook to get stress loss and a larg opinion bonus, works well for intrigue characters.

@armhelc7501 Жыл бұрын

You can cancel out the Brave penalty almost immediately. I love pairing it with Wrathful, especially for Asatru characters.

@rrron Жыл бұрын

I had a 24 prowess daughter turn down an offer to be a shieldmaiden. From then i never considered humble to be any higher than B tier.

@jackthehat1093 Жыл бұрын

Brave is one of the best traits. The positives far outweigh the negative. As well as the martial and prowess boost you get a +5 opinion modifier and it's a virtue in most of the European pagan religions.

@denizeralp1831 Жыл бұрын

Brave D, really? Brave should be at LEAST B, if not A or maybe even S tier

@arbikiuszelemelek3347 Жыл бұрын

Obviously a lot of those placements can change depending on if your religion has this trait as a virtue/sin, or if your culture has maluses to them etc. the really fun thing is that your placements can heavily vary on your playstyle which is pretty great, for example hostile schemes are pretty much my last resort, so traits like Honest and Forgiving are much more valuable to me than any of the intrigue ones. overall I would mostly agree with the tier list except for Brave, its an overall really good trait, I almost never lead my armies except for start of game where I can restart if I perish, or I actively want to die, but it still is a very well liked trait with a lot of positives so I would say its B for me

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Interesting! You must have a kind soul, because given the chance I will be hostile AF against digital people.

@felixcaudron7093 Жыл бұрын

In some crazy game of mine almost every of my rulers hits adulthood with Just and Greedy. Both really goes along allowing you to really really manage your stress by : giving money to add stress and revealing secrets to lower it, or at least stabilizing it at, let's say, level 2 or 3 stress, for you get it, those insane income bonusses ;-). But I guess you already knew that .

@PugsleyThePear Жыл бұрын

Just is one of my new favourite traits. You always end up gathering so many secrets you have nothing to do with - might as well air them out and reduce your stress. It's the just thing to do, after all!

@VivaChandles Жыл бұрын

Love the colab

@sockenmonster2477 Жыл бұрын

I love to sometimes pick paranoid. I play CK3 as a roleplay game, so I will stick to my characters traits a lot. It is so fun to play asa paranoid character, because you get events you'll never get otherwise. I hope you can see my point.

@VarjoFilosofi Жыл бұрын

Paranoid is the best trait there is. It generates so much hilarious scenarios, which you can enjoy and laugh at.

@realbabyeater Жыл бұрын

You guys are really underestimating dread i feel, I always execute 10 prisoners the second i become a new character to get that sweet 100% dread, no factions on my realm

@TFrills 10 ай бұрын

I like paranoid cause it helps with intrigue. But only take it if you have the gold for lots of feasts, hunts, grand rites, etc. Or possibly another trait that comes with decisions to manage stress. Generous makes it really easy, if you have a lot of gold. Lose stress from sending gifts,

@DanoriousTV Жыл бұрын

sadistic, temperate and industrious/gregarious my favorite combo

@DeadUponAll Жыл бұрын

When I make a a lunatic character, I use Paranoid, and pair it with Lunatic, Disfigured, Deviant, Sadistic, Zealous, Albino, Possessed. And a few others and it's fun

@konnosx1213 Жыл бұрын

me who picks brave literaly every single time though well a lot of times I wanna roleplay as unironically good rulers so sometimes I do it for that

@jimothyworldbuilding3664 Жыл бұрын

"I love how you can kill your kids" CK3 is such a wonderful game.

@thomastribe3096 Жыл бұрын

Love the list. Would love to see a tenets their list. Or even better, a faith tier list. Considering everything, tenets, religion, laws, heads, clergy, holy sites, starting positions, and of course, memeability. But I totally except that would take ages.

@OttawaWelshman Жыл бұрын

Yeah because there are SO many! I will keep the idea locked and loaded tho! You never know! Thanks for such a nice comment :D