and that said camera comes from SONY, one of the top display manufacturers.

@@OnlyCitrus As far as I know, sony does produce some LCDs but it is not the top one... that would be LG/Samsung.

@@OnlyCitrus good point, brighter screen is so overdue but I guess they can't improve everything at once - keep things less pricey

@@alen2937 Just look up 10,000 nits Sony CES 2018. They do make the best displays on the market, all reference monitors for color work in the high end is filled with Sony mastering displays. The only thing that comes remotely close is things locked away in R&D labs of Dolby, or Flanders. So yes, Sony does make the best displays if we're talking money-is-no-object. Consumer displays of course are currently ruled by LG/Samsung just because they're the only consumer OLED producer of note. And as for @gamebuster800 There are multiple excuses for unusable screens in sunlight. Battery life, heat, and costs. Overpowering the sun is something dedicated monitoring displays in the field have trouble doing. You're not getting in consumer cameras, especially not on something ~$1000 hybrid camera. Please think a bit more folks, there are bad choices, there are malicious choices, and there are financial choices. It can be a mix of all three, and not just something done to irk consumers, otherwise there would be at least one company willing to cater to demand (if film still lives, you can believe usable displays during high noon on cameras would be something companies would love to offer if it made sense).

@@OnlyCitrussony displays has been declining for almost half a decade. Along with marketshare, they also reduced rnd. Thanks to chinese display manufacturers

Yeah, very obvious from the poles.

yeah, you need way higher shutter speed for e-stab

It’s a vlogging camera. Doesn’t matter

Just get the S9, best stabilisation in the market

@@michaelbell75 🤣

XS20 autofocus is terrible, though. Mine can’t even maintain focus on a static talking head reliably, and if someone moves in a shot forget it, pull out your phone.

@@dmacnet My X-S20 AF is very reliable, better than the EV-10. It's so reliable that I use it on AF in my studio. Something that I've never done with any camera before. Previously they've all been on MF. The X-S20 AF is rock solid. If you're having problems, I'd suggest revisiting how you have set things up.

ive been condidering it for a while but the fact people will have it overheat literally from just going in the menus is what kills it for me completely.

@@vRyanXOXO What? Never heard or experienced such a thing. No credible reviewer has ever reported overheating as a problem, plus we can mount the external fan on it if we wish.

​@@photographybypetercharles9939 ive seen it a lot over reddit and its driven many others away too; people also say the fan barely helps but its a bit more hit or miss depending on the person. that being said yeah i havent heard nearly as many complaints on youtube, so that does confuse me a bit.

How much did PetaPixel have before they joined?

@@And_Sun_Yk like a thousand or something. When the fellas announced they were going to PetaPixel from DPReview it jumped to 60k overnight.

@@And_Sun_Yk They created the YT channel when they joined

Buy: ❌

forgot to add No Mechanical Shutter to the list

@@hellopsp180 & 4k120

And no EVF

Buy ✅

it's the active stabilization, they mentioned it in the video if you watched it.

It might be that Jordan used ND filters for “cinematic shutter speeds” (I think he's that type of videographer), but it's a disaster in combination with digital stabilization. This is just a guess though.

@@OldGirlPhotography what am I supposed to do with this deeply personal information that you will be sticking with another product? How does this factor into my daily life 🙂

My thoughts exactly. I kept checking my KZfaq resolution settings.

@@POVwithRC I guess you can ignore it if you choose.

Exactly my thoughts. G100+ibis when, Panasonic?

Yeah, we're slowly moving into a space where reviewers are now admitting that their bills need to be paid, so...we get reviews like this. And nothing wrong with that, as everyone needs to make a living. Just pick your 'reviewers' carefully.

@@user-tj8ox8iy8m 99% of KZfaq reviews aren't worth the paper they're printed on. People need to treat them as fun.

The inflation adjusted value of $899 from 2019 is about $1104 today. So basically the ZV-E10 II is cheaper than Sony A6400 in 2019.

@@Minsetti Good point. My first new house was $19k.

They are selling 10bit

I hate the word "inflation". Makes you think there is some magical hidden thing that makes the prices high. When it really should just be called corporate greed.

I heard that too. 😅

maybe the price will drop eventually. honestly i expected this camera to be at 800 or lesser.

Sin contar que la a6700 la podes comprar usada un precio de 1250-1300 in great conditions so it would be 250 more for the real good features. Is a no brainer

@@nomanCyclewala 800 is too low, just look at Panasonic S9 price of about 1500 😧

I could really se this as being a helpful small gimbal rig or as a C cam where A and B are an FX3/6 production. You could stick this little guy in places you can't with an FX6. Every camera has it's purpose.

It'd be perfect if you needed something for a tripod!

It's less of an issue if you actually plan your purchase and use stabilized lens with it also.

IBIS lol just hold the camera steady

Agree. Odd choice by Sony given the competition.

a6100/a6400 are still available (and cheaper)

it is a great second body for video, and you have your a6700 for your photo needs. Unless you're wanting one for a photography assistant?

@@jammaschan yeah, but I do little video and the places I'm mostly working actually kinda need a mechanical shutter. Might as well spend the money on lenses for now and rent a second body when needed

@@MiguelMorenoGP If you do little video then this shouldn't even be in your list.

@@MiguelMorenoGP this is a terrible choice for a photo camera, the older ZVE10 should be a better choice if photos are a priority over video, though obviously you can't really match video.

And the S9 actually has IBIS (Not this wobbly E-stabilization) & is Full Frame.

but there's no clip length restrictions

Yes I will actually

@@funtaril Will have to see how the ZVE 10 II does on overheating. In reality, judging by the precedessor, i would guess not much difference in record times. Even though i would say that Lumix shot themselves in the foot publizing recording limits and enforcing them instead of like Sony just ignoring the topic.

@@TDCIYB77 predecessor had quite different stuff inside. Gerald's tests show that in many environments it can run for much longer than 15 minutes.

If it was a Lumix this camera would be destroyed

yep and the quality looked terrible, this says more about the presenters selling out than it does about the crap camera. so disappointed

@@MagivaIT These "presenters" are a couple of total assholes, every single article for any product ALWAYS has a glowing review -- they are shills.

That's a full frame camera and the whole ecosystem is much more bulkier and expensive than APSC.

And crops at 4k60

@@Minsetti that's an important point about sensor size, big difference

@@Minsetti Hmm. The ideal vlogging lens for the S9, the Sigma 17mm f/4, is quite light and compact, and adds a much-needed aperture ring. Versus the Sony 11mm f/1.8 the size and weight are a wash. You do get a faster lens with the Sony, but lose stabilization. Soon Panasonic will also release the 18-40mm collapsible zoom, which is going to put a lot of pressure onto these APS vlog setups.

@@JJARCHIEand yet the mark II has a 4k60 crop too 4:22

completely different sensor techs

At twice the price ?

​@@JJARCHIECloser to two and half times the price 😎

@@LakeHowellDigitalVideo exactly

Quite possible, they already caved on the front dial! 🤣

Why would you want that on a crop sensor camera? Redundant cards are for professional use, and for professional use you should use full frame anyway.

@@youknowwho9247 Nah, redundancy is great for casual photographers and any format. Also 2 card slots just lets you customize how to save your stuff, and it lets you get more memory without buying more expensive larger capacity card.

⁠@@youknowwho9247professional users also use apsc sensor. Welcome to the tercer mundo

​@@youknowwho9247Depends on what you call professional because plenty of large productions have used APS-C. Especially with studio work where they can control lighting so it's not even a concern

The ZV line has never been really an upgrade for the a6000s line, generally within the a6000 line is the next upgrade, like an a6700 which is a great camera with all the features

it's 1000$, overheating is reasonable, huge crop in what regard, because 4k60 1.1x crop in this price range is really good...

no, as mentioned in the video

​@@gamebuster800 BIG YIKES! 😢

@@gamebuster800 tbh I didn't realize they mentioned it lol

They mention the electronic stabilization and blurry frame in the video?

@@Rashadmcka ah.. that's probably the part I skipped and went directly to the conclusion 😅

@@IFrancyISantosIme too 😂I’ve looking for a reason to get this camera instead of the a6700 just to pay 400 less but no way… ibis is so important.. using third part lens like sigma 16 the footage would be shitty on this camera. Not even at 10 bit 422 4k 60fpa 😂

@@alvarovids1915 also this active electronic stabilization has a massive 1.5x crop in 4k60, & 1.4x in 4k24/30 which will drastically soften image quality

@@IFrancyISantosI sometimes I watch it all and miss stuff. *shrug*

I’ve asked myself the same question... How is this considered a good recommendation when the S9 is odd and confusing? The screen quality is poor, there’s no EVF, no mechanical shutter, a smaller sensor, and no IBIS. On top of that, Sony has an awful track record with firmware updates.This camera leaves you no room for growth... If I had chosen this camera instead of the S9 based on a review, I'd be pissed off. 😂

@@lfcruzsierra Totally agree! 👍

Cause it costs a thousand dollars..? Of course it's going to be a stripped down version of the FX30

@@pzark3638that isn’t a valid justification

They don't even put review in the title so it's just some promotional video and who know how much they received for posting this video. For the price proper vlogging tool like pocket 3 is better and your phone can took the same bad still image😂

@@sentisenti3229 that’s cause it’s pre production and always say they don’t call that a review because they aren’t able to fully test these cameras on the press trips

Just buy an A7RV or whichever camera has all you want. This is for people that don't need or can't afford all that.

those two are very different cameras

Zv1-ii isn’t gonna do it for you in low light

what limitation?

Very quick overheating and short record tike in high framerates

Z8/z9 does 1/200 and more with their super stacked fancy sensor Fuji does 1/100 in their cheaper (2,5 k usd ) stacked sensor Non stacked sensor goes to 1/60 . You need 1/100 to freeze people walking , 1/1000-2000 for sports and birds. Go figure Incresing the SS past 1/60 only affects exposure but not how fast the sensor reads

@@JJARCHIE Thanks. I was just wondering why people are complaining that a video centric camera doesn't have a mechanical shutter, i.e., would one be doing flash photography with this camera?

@@DixonLu yep , me too

Nope, it uses a stepped motor.

I managed to find one new open box on FB Marketplace for $1000. That's the same price this new ZV-E10 II is selling for.

The XS20 is $300 more expensive….

@@kazeshiii it's kinda pointless to compare new camera prices to second hand seller prices though? Most of the second hand XS20s where I'm at are still well above that $1000 mark, meanwhile I saw a fully functioning xt3 selling for $400. It's just time and luck for getting great deals in the second hand market, you can't compare it to MSRP

@@michaelbell75 yes but worth every penny

Yes with evf ibis for both video and photo better rolling shutter and better autofocus and way better color profiles

Because it's a vlogging Camera in 2024 that has less features then cameras that came out many years ago? IBIS is kinda an important thing for vlogging.

@@TheUnknownVideographerso get an a6700??? It literally has all the features you’re looking for. What’s the point of being stuck on what it’s marketed as when you can just look at what it is? People use cameras outside of their marketing all the time. If you want a Zv-e10 II with any combination of ibis, a mechanical shutter, a viewfinder, 4k 120, etc. you literally have an option that fulfills those desires. The Zv-e10 ii is not the camera for you, so stop expecting it to be something it isn’t and literally pick the option in front of you that has what you want.

@@TheUnknownVideographerwhat is IBS? I am a persons who knows nothing about cameras 📷 people like me don’t know all this terminology. But I need a new camera for sit down talks,vlogs and vlogs in my home. I also wouldn’t mind learning to take nice pictures but I need an easier less technical camera.

In a $1000 vlogging camera?

Or even Open Gate. The Fuji XS-20 (not much more expensive) does have it.

It's shills and wannabe shills. Like the comments section in DJI videos. Just trying to be noticed.

unlikely...

Hi, what is IBIS?

Who actually uses that thing?

isn't 28-60mm f4-5.6 new? previous 28-70mm ff kit-lens was giant in comparison

yeah, that's not always a good alternative...you need to mess with the shutter for optimal use and some apps take a while to process it.

@@lfcruzsierra this camera literally has no ibis unit inside theres no alternative you might as well use things that the manufacturer provided for its consumers. Also gyroflow is not some random “app” its better than sony’s own software for its gyro stabilization. If your computer can handle slog 3 then you can use gyroflow with no issue

gyro stab (at least in catalyst) means no proper shutter speed. on 24fps u'd have to use maybe 250+ for shutter (instead of 48), which will ruin the footage (if u care for the cinematic feel).

@@skepsys I can confirm. Gyro is not an acceptable alternative if you want to retain control of your image. The Sony digital stabilization is decent but why would you compromise with so much cropping instead of paying a few bucks and getting a camera with IBIS.

@@skepsys that is why i mentioned gyroflow which is way better than catalyst imo. As long as theres no crazy movement u can get away with 48 shutter speed. If your shoot requires a lot of camera movement u can increase fps and shutter speed but then i wouldnt do that with this camera

This camera is trash but not many Sony cameras made in the last 6 years would overheat.

tbh if you used any sony camera you'd know that unless you're shooting a take longer than 30 minutes, they won't ever overheat.

@@jammaschan I am shooting longer than 30 mins and Sony does not make it clear that they design their cameras to not last much longer than 30 mins or they will turn off. They do however advertise that the recording limit is 13 hours, soooooo.....

@@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt it's just common sense that if you shoot that long, you buy a camera with a fan for cooling, ie the FX30.

@@jammaschan I don't think about 45mins in cool room or about 10mins outside in the sun is an acceptable length of recording time to claim your camera is a video camera. Sony needs to spend longer on the cooling designs and not be so obsessed with trying to make cameras as small as possible at the cost of reliability and usability.

Imagine if Jordan was talking exactly about that right in that moment and that was illustrative footage