the funny part is japan still uses fax machines, this probably actually happened

I can already imagine one of those "Camera Conspiracy" board meetings! 😂

LOL 😂

Corporate Japan for you 🫠

​@@WeebJailsure....and America still uses a measurement system from the 1700s that 99% of the rest of the world moved on from decades ago. All joking aside.....I live in Japan and I've never seen a fax machine here aside from in government offices. And that's where they are still mostly used so far as I can tell. You make it sound like the average Japanese person is actually using fax machines.....which they most certainly are not. Also.....here's a secret.....it's not just Japan. I've seen fax machines in government offices in South Korea, and in Singapore too. You know why? Because they are predominantly used to send and receive private or sensitive documents. Whether government or personal. The reason being that a fax machine can't be hacked (at least not without significantly greater difficulty) as opposed to email or the cloud. So it's seen as a security issue. When I've had to apply for work permits etc..... sensitive private paperwork that I sent to a government office was done via fax. Again......for security reasons. No one would ever be able to intercept it or get access to it from some idiot making a mistake on a network (happens many times when big companies screw up and customers private data gets compromised). In fact there is a particular industry that uses fax machines too. The mental health care industry. Mental health hospitals/facilities still use fax machines for the exact same security/confidentiality reasons.

why? Whats worse on the R100 over the EF-M cameras? I see the R100 ofc a pretty bad decision, even the R10 or R50 are just „too bad“ for its price, but if i would have to choose between R100 and M50 Mk2 i would go for the R100: better adapters (control ring or filter adapter), RF lenses, more futureproof and better AF performance as well more modern tracking/AI stuff. Sure enough there are some very interesting and affordable EF-M lenses not possible to use on EF or RF cameras, but just the fact that you can adapt on any EF-M or RF camera EF(S) lenses makes the biggest argument against RF not worth minding at all.

@@harrison00xXx you might have missed the part where the AI / tracking stuff isn't there. It's identical to an M50 II for autofocus

​@@matthieuzglurg6015except it doesn't have a dying lens mount, so even if spec for spec it's an R50 this is better, hope this helps

Not almost deliberately, 100% deliberately. It's one thing that makes me lose all respect for Canon, how they go >backwards< on some launches, like not just 'not' implementing the latest features, but straight up removing features that were in previous models. Like how 6Dmk2 was given worse dynamic range and video quality than Mk1, and now blocking 3rd party lens support while a lot of users want 3rd party lenses that Canon has no equivalent for (like Sigma 14mm f1,4). Completely mind-boggling to me how they have a larger market share than Nikon while treating their customers like idiots.

That's something you would expect from Olympus, because Sony has usb charging for almost a decade.

considering they are providing a charger, i see this as a non-issue. i dont remember the last time i charged my battery in my camera.

@@truthseeker6804 ok, but just knowing i have to keep the charger around me, around trips, or else i cannot use the camera, feels like it’s 2015. No usb charging and no flip screen. Also the flash not popping up is hilarious. A 10$ film camera from Canon has that function. It’s just a gap so you can buy the next camera, aka R50 or for noobs who don’t want to buy an used but better camera for less money.

@@evo271 my $2000+ camera has no flash, and i wish it had. i can agree people should buy the r50 and not buy this. but theres really no competition for this camera at this price. unless you can find an amazing used camera deal.

And holy shit is the charger wobbling at 7:20 Or is this jsut the bad canadian power outlet design?

I agree that a non-charging USB is not good, but it is most likely not an oversight. It is more likely the result of a conscious decision made to lower the price of the camera. Companies make decisions like this all the time and they don't know for sure if it is the right decision until after the product hits the market.

@@TheBigBlueMarble I bought 15 usb-c charge boards from amazon for $11. At less than a buck to the general public Imagine what canon gets the chips for?

@@spyder000069 I agree, to me it's ridiculous that they left it out for what it would cost them

Or even the m200, the m100 evolution. The numbers in the model name suggest to me what Canon thinks their new cameras line up to ..

Pure facts. Canon 22mm f/2 is the real deal. So small, yet so good image quality.

I had the lens recently...... best lens ever...then canon decided to cheat customers and brought r50 and r100... now I was sure m series was dead and they were forcing customers to adopt new body and new lens system.... I sold my canon m200 and ef22 lens and moved to nikon ecosystem.... Canon made the biggest blunder this day and age where digital camera companies are facing chip shortages and recession .. Good job canon destroy urself... I hear nikon is doing good...... Anyway imo efmm22 lens is one of the best ever made by any company

Who buys canon anymore?

I never owned that lens although I'm aware of its good reputation. I do own the 28mm macro though, which I like, and the 11-22mm zoom which is pretty good too (in my opinion). Canon has a whole array of very nice EF-M lenses which they should port over to the RF-APS-C lineup for that to become an attractive platform. But I wonder if they'll do that, or if they'll be too afraid it will eat into their full frame sales too much.

For $1000 you could get a used Fuji x100f which I would take every single day of the week over the m50 if we’re talking “fixed lens.” The m50 feels like a toy by comparison. The plastics canon uses in their lower end cameras kill me.

All part of Canon’s cripple hammer strategy. Canon is too tight to spend the fraction of a penny for the spring to pop the built-in flash up 😂

R50 is dog shit, it got 0 value for me bcos of one factor, propetiary multi interface shoe without normal pins.

@@akhyarrayhka4048 Wow that's crazy bro. Your personal weird issues with it should definitely inform broader market views of the product's viability.

Only those two dunno canon’s strategies and keep like a lost lamb keep complaining haha

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but any good smartphone cost twice this, and has horrible image quality, oversatured oversharpened fake bokeh, digital zoom. i would take this camera over any smartphone, iphone 14pro max, samsung fold 4, s23 ultra, etc.

@@truthseeker6804 I just wish Canon could have at least put a touch screen on it.

maybe the camera is meant for parents who will buy the first camera for their childs

​@@truthseeker6804👏👏👏

​@@GungKrisna12co za głupota. Dziecko nie wykorzysta potencjału nawet tak taniego aparatu.

This is exactly what Canon has been doing for too long now and people aren't calling it out. I'm a lifetime canon user, but money grabs like this are freaking ridiculous.

still is compelling. considering people are still buying t7 etc.

@@truthseeker6804 No-one should buy this kind of cheap shit. It's much better to buy a used camera that at least has touch screen and USB charging.

@@fotografalexandernikolis which used camera at this price is better? state them?

@@truthseeker6804Panasonic G80

@@JimiCanRead the Panasonic g80 has smaller sensor, worse autofocus, worse in low light, low megapixel, people want their images and video in focus. and most importantly its used with probably no warranty and potential hidden problems.

> future landfill material This is so true and tragic. This is a flagrant waste of resources to the point of being offensive. 😂

Honestly I wouldn't even say it's great for learning. A big part in learning the most important stuff is to remove unnecessary hassle (like having to bring a dedicated charger) and having to fiddle with buttons for things that should be done with a touch screen. This is why my highest priority advice for beginners buying their first camera are things that make learning fun and intuitive: 1. Tilt or flip screen to take photos from low or high angles. This is something you can't even do with a phone, so it's a big bonus. 2. Touch screen to make choosing focus area etc quicker. 3. USB-charging so they can just charge it with a powerbank or in the car if needed. Those things are more important for beginners than sensor tech, lens selection and so on. The R100 lacks all of them.

@@fotografalexandernikolis True, I may have overestimated the camera, if that's possible; just don't want to knock it off completely Someone could certainly learn with this camera, but would I recommend someone get it specifically to learn, or gift it to someone for this purpose? FUCK no, please don't I started on a 700D near 10 years ago, a bit more expensive but the features made it so I could use it professionally at some times (concerts, weddings, studio); I don't believe you could do that with this model. Moral of the story, buy a 700D for like 200 bucks and it might even come with a free lens.

@@fotografalexandernikolis 1. phones dont have tilt or flip screen yet we still take photos from low angle. tilt of flip screen isnt essential for everyone. 2. most photographers dont use the touch screen to choose focus. 3. a charger is provided, USB charger is cool but not essential. these are NOT important for a beginner and has no impact on the art of photography itself.

@@MarshallBananar I wouldn't say its future landfill material; this is basically an RF mount version of the Canon SL3 (or 250D) or the M50mk2, and these are still usable for many. Both the SL3 and M50mk2 are considered the go to beginner cameras here in Brazil because well, they're more or less the only thing many people can afford that will do 4K and take good photos. There's plenty of professional photographers here using even cheaper cameras for stills (like the Canon T100), so I think the main issue with the R100 is the cost, the lack of lenses and the lack of a touchscreen (I don't mind it that much, but both the SL3 and the M50 have a touchscreen). While one could indeed get a 700D for cheaper, it won't come with a warranty and it'll likely be quite worn, so that's something many will take into consideration not only when buying a camera for themselves, but especially when buying it as a gift for someone; besides, unless you manage to get the original receipt with the camera, you won't be able to insure the camera, which is fairly important over here. Just for comparison, the college I go to has some 700Ds, and some of us personally own SL3s, and the consensus is the SL3 is indeed a better camera, even our teachers agree; even if the 4K is severely limited due to that crop, it is still usable depending on lens choice, and the noise performance is much better; they're similar when it comes to photos, but the SL3 has more resolution and newer sensor technology. Granted, I don't think this is worth it for 600 brand new; bot the SL3 and the M50 mk2 can be found for that same price, and as mentioned in the video, both have better lens catalogs. If this released for 500, then an argument could've been made for buying it instead of the older models, but still, I think Canon should push the market forward, not re-release the same cameras from 5 years ago with less features and a new lens mount, but well... I'd much rather see a drop in price for the R50 at this point.

Its a decoy product to upsell R50

2 reasons I can think of: 1. Canon still treats (like many other manufacturers) APS-C as an amateur line never meant to be taken seriously when compared to their full frame lineup. Look at the dedicated lenses they have (not) made for crop sensor cameras, even their EF-S line. 2 To Canon, APS-C is only useful in that it pushes people to their full frame line of cameras and lenses, which make more money. That is why the EF-M mount is interesting. It looks like they didn't think of this onboarding when designing a lens mount only wide enough to fit an APS-C sensor.

Seriously. If the intent is to create a camera for cell phone users and vloggers, trying to recreate the M200 rather than the T7 DSLR makes a lot more sense. The old EOS T7 has a worthy legacy, for what it is, but it seems out of step with today's market.

Bro I sold my m200 and 3 lenses.....moved to nikon....couldn't be more happier

@@twit_t9668 True, but honestly they can do both this and that. They can kill all the birds in one stone. Make compact flip screen cameras for the phone people who are tired of not being able to see themselves and use the good camera on the back of their phones, but don't want to carry bulky 90s SLR design around. Give us the Canon equivalent of the Olympus Pen series again. Purse powerhouse cameras for doc-street-travel-snap. There's a reason people are buying up all the X100V and Ricoh GR cameras now. They don't need to be especially pro for this either. I'd be happy with just an M6II or M200 that I could mount new RF lenses to. They could even do the classic Canon move of selling us old tech and calling it new. 😂

@@thebitterfig9903 Exactly. Bulky SLR designs don't fit in pockets or purses. And flip up touchscreens where you can use the best lens and see yourself at the same time would crush the usability flaws of phone cameras. The EOS M series was basically perfect except for the lack of dedicated lenses. They could literally swap out the lens mount and sell them again. I'd buy it.

Not possible. RF mount is too big and basically a full frame sensor placeholder.

@@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas It's big but the camera wouldn't be that much bigger, maybe a few mm taller. If you look at the M100/200, there is a lot of space around the mount.

yeah, I think they should just put the RF mount on M200 and call it a day.

Oooooh, never thought of that! They could go for that sony a6000 series design and just sell a small add-on EVF for those who want that. Removing that toughscreen really wasn't the most clever idea i think.

an EVF is more important than a touch screen, if you take into consideration most people are buying cameras for photography first. anyone can take photography without a touch screen, using the shutter button and controls, but its not recommended to not use an EVF for photography.

@@truthseeker6804 it might be only me.. i don’t know. But for me as I use 2012 original eos m that has like 3 button to press, touchscreen-able, no evf. I live with it just fine. Shoot in head on sun condition of SEA. But if there is no touchscreen, big no for me.

Except that this is a terrible camera to learn on because it only has one dial, with the M50 you could atleast quickly dial the settings using the touchscreen.​@@truthseeker6804

The EF-RF adapter is a huge positive for RF system but yea this camera is not aiming at people who are likely to be buying adapters. I imagine most will just use the 18-45 kit and never buy another.

most beginners arent buying loads of lenses. one or two is enough.

And then this is having a Canon cripple hammer without delivering any touchsceen to the smartphone users. A big joke. All other competitors are better choices, especially FUJI if you want to have small APS-C cameras with a huge collection of APS-C lenses..

also lack of flip screen.

200d is better than this

maybe since the target is the parents who banned their childs from using smartphones

Haha, at least this decision was easy and quick to make. 😂

smartphones most of the time rely on computational photography, they will use lots of processing and AI for that

Samsung did toying around back in 2013-2015 with smartphone-on-camera system, such as Galaxy NX and Galaxy S4 zoom. AFAIK, they didn't sell well. The closest today would be Sony Xperia Pro, but sadly no interchangeable lens.

And that smartphone would cost $1500+.

@@todanrg3 Funny enough, with inflation, Galaxy NX could be launched at around $2200 today (launched at $1700 in late 2013). Your $1500+ isn't that far off

True. For example a used Nikon D600 or D750 and a 50 mm f/1.8. You can use all those DSLR lenses with adapter for a mirrorless one later.

With the exception of the 50, they are also dark as the night and awkward focal lengths on canon's 1.6x crop. Where are the compact 22 and 32 F1.4?

@@problemat1que f2.8 is "dark as night"? 16mm (=25mm) and 28mm (=45mm) are "awkward"? I agree crop specific lenses are better, but these are far from bad solutions for APS-C in the meantime.

​@@problemat1quemaybe you want f/1.4 aperture lens in lower price

You can also adapt EF glass to RF cameras… But yeah, the R100 is bullsh*t, same goes for R50 and R10.

Hot shoe without the central pin, hope your studio flash is Canon brand

It's a camera neant to be used in semi auto or fully automatic settings, it's a freaking toy with a very low ceiling, just to entice you into buying a more expensive camera.

that's so cute, the camera does seem easy enough to handle, good luck if you proceed with the purchase

@@Al.j.Vasquez calling it a freaking toy is a bit overkill, it's a bit like a point and shoot, definitely not intended for people willing to take photography seriously

Your comment hit me especially hard considering I actually ditched my entire Nikon DX DSLR system for an X-T2. Can't imagine replacing a D7000 with this camera. Especially with how tragically slow the zoom lens in the RF series are compared to even the Canon DSLR lens lineup, much less the existing mirrorless offerings by other companies.

I think this camera is not meant to be sold at all… its part of an upselling strategy to force customers at least to the R50. But the R50 is already that bad and expensive at the same time that you look towards the R10, but well… the R7 give more value for the money than the R10 so many people go at least for the R7, better R6 II or R8. I was also looking for a camera below 1000€/$… i enjoyed a lot the EOS RP (i think the way to go btw compared to the R100!) but sadly i switched then to video and wildlife something the RP is absolutely not made for. As much i wanted to stay below 1k, the R7 was for example the only viable option then (and somewhat of an upgrade). R10 was too bad and expensive for its performance, R50 not released and anyways too bad,… Hell, i even had a fair priced 2nd hand R6 and i nearly loved it (low light monster and night vision capable with a 1.4 lens), but 20MP, overheating, some software bugs,… i just sold it again before the prices go down.

But a used DSLR with better specs costs a lot less. What's the point to buy a R100?

​​​​@@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonasсразу несколько усовершенствований в основном картинка + видео + общая скорость + не нужно менять затвор или ремонтировать шестерни в ближайшие годы + тишина для улиц. Это удобно, но часто это лишнее для творчества, а вот для работы и экономии времени - всё это пригодится

considering the lens options out of all, the G7. theres so few lenses for the RF-S right now. sure youll lose good autofocus but you can potentially go up from the G7 to other micro4/3 bodies while keeping your lenses 😄

The NEX-7 had truly unique handling, and if you enjoy how the camera feels, it may be worth going that way. However, the X-A7 is a better performer in nearly every category, as it is a much more recent body. -Jordan

Yea this is a camera designed to get the money off soccer moms who wandered in to the local bulk techstore. You can get a used g9 for 200€ cheaper than what this Canon costs here in Finland and that's on a whole other level of camera.

RF 50 1.8, probably one of the best lenses in the R system to be honest (price/performance wise) or RF 85 is also not too bad, tho its getting expensive already. Sadly those lenses fit the best on the really interesting deals you get at canon mirrorless actually: the mighty EOS RP!

AFAIK its an injoke they've carried over for ages. Nocts are considered quite large and heavy lenses, and so having some tiny mirrorless be a fraction of the lenses weight is kinda amusing.

Indeed. It was a long-standing joke (from DPReview era), and it was based on Nikkor 58mm F0.95, which is officially weighing at 2kg. I think they did talk about how it did come about in a podcast here somewhere as well as when they review that Nikkor 58mm.

Yes. This makes sense 🙂 Thank you both for explaining. Cheers guys

Yeah. That omission is retarded considering how good all the other implementations are and given the target audience.

I wonder how many people really utilize the touch screen though? I constantly forget the my Nikon has a touchscreen even though it's implemented very well.

@@thisisbenji90 agreed. touch screen is getting overrated in this comment section because it was emphasized in the video. most photographers dont even use the touch screen.

@@truthseeker6804 Most do. I think you are projecting your own weird usage patterns onto the bulk of the market.

@@POVwithRC how many photographers use a touch screen when taking a photograph? most photographers have their face to the viewfinder and taking a picture. most sony cameras dont even have touch menus. sure if you use the sony fx3 you dont have a viewfinder to begin with, but even so, you have a shutter button. again the point is, most photographers dont use the touch screen. this is not a debate.

The RF system is unreasonable in general as long you are not sure if you ever want to upgrade to a better R camera. I made the mistake that i bought a EOS RP (full frame) since i was annoyed by APS-C and its noise level at ISO 800 and above. I mean i even enjoyed the RP a lot, especially for astrophotography (most astrophotography programs connect easily to the RP to control it), but in the end i realized full frame and video capabilities or even just fast shooting will be still reserved for rich people so i „downgraded“ to APS-C again with the R7 (a MUCH BETTER camera) Go get some EF glass and a Meike EF RF Filter adapter, at best with the additional 40$ C-PL filter (i paid 190€ for the Adapter +clear + C-PL + V-ND, something you pay at Canon like 700€!) The thing is…. RF glass maybe make sense when it comes to compact primes (RF 50, RF35) or limited zoom (RF S 18-45 for super compact and light, 18-150 for still compact yet universal lens,…), but its for example hard to beat many EF lenses. I personally use often a good old EF-S 17-55 2.8 Canon, sure enough its as big and even heavier than the 18-150 RF-S, but its consistent 2.8 aperture, still good autofocus speed and precision and very usable stabilizer… its cheaper and better than the 18-150 for example. Or whats another nice thing (on my R7 with IBIS at least): any older unstabilized EF lens from about 20-150mm…. IBIS makes them better stabilized than the average OIS from lenses of a similar generation. Only below 20mm and above about 200mm IBIS gets somewhat unnecessary or at least very uneffective. For example my loved and „cheap“ 50mm and 100mm macro lenses are incredible stabilized. I wanted once also get into the RF system, and i really LOVED the EOS RP + RF 50 1.8 (super compact yet performing awesome!), but let me repeat: RF lenses make sense as long you really go for light and small (and mainly short/light primes), any bigger zoom lens or bigger lens in general and you are fine with EF as well.

Nonsense, i had the RP, R6 and now the R7. None of these cameras had any freezing/lock up issues Its all user error and connection issues (like the battery grip issue on R5/R6)

.. which is complete BS. I have a R6 and it never locked up or showed a software issue. Heat has never been a problem at all in my shootings. You should revisit your sources if you don't have first hand experience, which by the way is always a bad starting point when commenting.

Mounting EF lenses on Fuji bodies with the fringer pro ii adapter is very fun, you get an aperture ring and it has room for Fuji's 1.4x TC so your 50 becomes a 70 (105mm equivalent), your cheapo EF-S 60 macro becomes a respectable 84mm for more subject distance, or your 200 becomes a 280 (420 equivalent) for example.

Which RF lenses you talk about? RF-S 18-150 might be „slow“ but its an AWESOME lens…. super light and small, yet 18-150mm, very good stabilized and also sharp enough wide open so no need to stop down further. The 18-45mm is a joke, sure enough, but lets be honest, anything below the R10 is already a pretty big joke and even the R10 is…. well the real „entry level“ camera for the lowest needs. Also, as much of a joke the 18-45 seems… it sounds still like an awesome „always on camera“ lens for most needs and its really small. Its just too expensive in my opinion, same for the 18-150mm in RF mount.

​@@harrison00xXxthey only want us to buy their flagship cameras

Or choose m200 but now?

You are comparing it to the wrong class of camera. This is the old 1100D series Your 700D would be the great grandfather of the current R50

@@axelfiraxa you are correct of course that its the wrong class, I was jsut looking at the price. So for the same money and 10 years later they remove the touchscreen

the 700d autofocus would be nowhere near this.