Peter Thiel: The Stagnation of Science and the AI Revolution

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Peter Thiel is one of the greatest entrepreneurs and investors of his generation. #peterthiel #AI #vc #diversitymyth #zerotoone
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Peter was the co-founder and CEO of PayPal (PYPL), the first investor in Facebook, and co-founder of Palantir Technologies (PLTR). He’s the founder and managing partner of the venture capital firm Founders Fund, and the author of Zero to One, one of the best business books of all time.
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00:00 Peter Thiel - Tech investor & Entrepreneur
00:35 Zero to One and market size
03:20 Monopolies in venture capital
05:30 Why scientific progress has slowed
21:02 Steven Pinker and positive progress
26:10 Religion, science and skepticism
31:18 Why AI researchers believe we’re in a simulation
40:03 US debt and economic growth
55:06 A conspiracy theory Peter Thiel believes
59:12 Peter’s take for common bad advice
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In this episode with Peter Thiel, we discuss:
🔬 The Stagnation of Science and the AI Revolution
💡 Startups, Monopolies, and why “Competition is for losers”
🌐 Wokeness, Safety, and the Soft Lockdown of Society
🤖 AI, Existential Risks, and the Simulation Hypothesis: Could we be living in a simulated reality?
🚀 From Zero to One: Peter Thiel's Unconventional Insights on Startups & Investing in 2023
In December 2015, Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, Reid Hoffman, Jessica Livingston, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Amazon Web Services (AWS), Infosys, and YC Research announced the formation of OpenAI and pledged over $1 billion to the venture.
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@aurenh 7 ай бұрын

this is my favorite World of DaaS episode. jam-packed learnings.

@calvinthestormfreak 7 ай бұрын

China Russia (brics nations) buy 100 billion in Bitcoin through 1,000s of “accounts”. Set up a deleveraged bitcoin etf (10x LESS volitility) which buys 1/10th of BTC for every one unit of increase or sells at 1/10th for every decrease. Every “nationstate” buy is backed 100% with BTC. ETF managers charge .2% yearly fee and buy and sell 1/10th of move. China, etc. dump USD/treasuries immediately after ETF goes “live” destroying USD overnight as they use monies to buy bitcoin.

@gobluechung 5 ай бұрын

What a world we live in... that I can, in my PJs wake up early and listen to the nuanced views of Thiel. Thank you!

@enderwiggins8483 2 ай бұрын

I have been underwhelmed by ChatGPT. Artificial? yes, intelligent? Not.

@mikulcek 7 ай бұрын

The amount of thought that goes into each thing Peter talks about is astonishing. Wow, wow, epic, thank you both for creating this.

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Peter was an epic guest

@VideoMagician77 5 ай бұрын

I think technological progress has slowed since the 1970s for the following reasons. 1. An Older Population - As life expectancy went up and birth rates fell, the average age of the population has increased. As the population got older, we became less innovative since younger people tend to be the ones with all of the new ideas. 2. Bloated Government - The number of federal regulations has exploded in the past several decades which has increased regulatory compliance cost and litigation risk which makes regulation harder. 3. The Repeal of Prohibitions Against Stock Buyback - In the early 1980s, the U.S government repealed a law which forbad companies from buying their own stock. The result is that corporate America has reduced their R&D budgets in favor of inflating their stock values. 4. Low-Interest Rates - Interest rates starting in the 2000s entered into low-interest rate territory which had negative implications for the overall rate of innovation. This is because if the interest rates become too low, non-productive companies can exist indefinitely by borrowing more money. Over time if the rates remain low like they have been, non-productive companies share of the overall economy increases which reduces the overall innovation rate since capital allocation isn't being directed towards innovative companies like they should be. 5. Comfort - Human beings are aggressive and driven in a state of survival and non-aggressive in a state of comfort. By 1970, everything needed for a comfortable and happy life were in place which led to a drop in our collective ambition to engage in further innovation.

@irfanaslamcom 7 ай бұрын

Peter's insight on springing simulation theory as a mental balm by technology buffs to solve the existential question of upcoming AGI alignment problem is spot on.

@LL-wc4wn 2 ай бұрын

Holy shit thats a sentence!

@mac9954 Ай бұрын

wow amazing we went to the moon i love Peter honesty

@planetmuskvlog3047 7 ай бұрын

I spent a month in China, Bejing and Shanghai. When I returned to Los Angeles, the city felt underdeveloped and stagnant.

@user-oc5if8oj8q 7 ай бұрын

La ?

@tehnews 7 ай бұрын

@@ohiosteamandsteelyou’re right china is a big city

@fintech1378 7 ай бұрын

@@ohiosteamandsteel yea but he is comparing them to LA though

@I_Lemaire 7 ай бұрын

🧢

@danielt3497 7 ай бұрын

One thing I appreciated was the long pauses where Peter was really thinking about his answers.

@titocosta 7 ай бұрын

Interesting how Peter seems to take each question very seriously

@aurenh 7 ай бұрын

thank is one of his superpowers

@wave641 7 ай бұрын

pay close attention, he rarely answers a question in the context it is presented. but rather he often questions the premise, framing, or intent behind the question.

@simonnilsson5356 7 ай бұрын

@@wave641his way of talking and thinking is truly unique

@simonnilsson5356 7 ай бұрын

@@wave641imagine his and Elon’s discussions during the Paypal days..

@user-vx4mq4rs5d Ай бұрын

watching this video in southkorea's army.. awesome insights

@worldofdaas Ай бұрын

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@tayloranderson456 7 ай бұрын

When he talks about the biomedical stuff I can tell you why it is so slow...healthcare is 14% of the workforce. We could probably make half those jobs redundant in a few years if we did an adequate job with nutrition. But that would be very bad for the healthcare industry so you see them continually turning a blind eye to it, making a good living mopping without ever turning off the faucet. For example this is why the American Dental Association tells people to limit sugar intake but never advocates for regulation of refined sugar. It's the only thing that really makes sense in a country where the average person eats 60lbs sugar a year and has dental decay, but it would be devastating for the dental industry. So we have this continual thing in healthcare of pretend like we don't know the cause or have no control and make $ "managing" the preventible problem.

@jl3268 7 ай бұрын

Not to mention the neurotoxin fluoride that is still touted as healthy by the ADA. The ironic health system is designed to harm and kill.

@u2b83 7 ай бұрын

@@jl3268 Nah, it mainly accumulates in your pineal glan (just look at some mri's). If you're worried about it, don't swallow toothpaste to freshen your breath, as is true for most of these cases lol.

@pruff3 6 ай бұрын

And that's the tooth!

@nbme-answers 6 ай бұрын

Don't regulate my sugar. Take responsibility for your buying choices. Let free markets provide solutions, if even wanted.

@tayloranderson456 6 ай бұрын

I'm pro capitalism in many ways, but in healthcare has failed miserably because the incentives are so backwards. If obesity rates were 1%, or even 5%, ok sure blame people's buying choices. But when it's pretty much everyone there is a bigger problem that won't get fixed without regulation. @@nbme-answersSame goes for sugar and all the other preventible diseases.

@markom001 7 ай бұрын

Wow, excellent chat guys! Thanks so much for bringing Peter, he is a treasure of knowledge. Could you maybe bring on Alex Karp, Peter’s co-founder from Palantir? That would be amazing.

@marthaimmer5675 7 ай бұрын

+1 for Alex

@aurenh 7 ай бұрын

+100 for Alex. I need to make that happen. @@marthaimmer5675

@akj3344 7 ай бұрын

I wish I could meet Peter one day. He has impacted a lot of my thinking.

@mastershredder2002 7 ай бұрын

You have been impacted.

@akj3344 7 ай бұрын

What?@@mastershredder2002

@caneren829 7 ай бұрын

I'm very happy heard that you and Peter coming in Turkey.

@josher3436 7 ай бұрын

Great interview. Good questions and just let the guest speak. Thank you!

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Subscribe for new videos every Tuesday :)

@KALLAN8 7 ай бұрын

this was epic, well done for getting Peter to think about his answers instead of getting him to repeat his well known cliches!

@lynzhu6934 7 ай бұрын

Haha I was about to say the same. Peter has the tendency to repeat his carbon copy of his well-known sentences

@Lombardi54 7 ай бұрын

Cliches 😂 competition is for loser or and All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way. In all seriousness, I think PT is an inspirational person.

@kenmogibrainworld4844 7 ай бұрын

There were some uniquely interesting points in the views expressed by Peter Thiel here. The significances of atheism and simulation hypothesis, for example.

@___Shawn___ 5 ай бұрын

Great episode. Always love hearing from Peter.

@worldofdaas 5 ай бұрын

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@richiemello3447 7 ай бұрын

It is so inspiring to see someone who is so intelligent show that there is a depth of knowledge or theories that he doesn't have an answer for. That to me, is the true sign of an intellectual.

@aurenh 7 ай бұрын

100% agree

@TheDerekschwartz 7 ай бұрын

Amazing. First time I watched World of DaaS, definitely the best one yet!

@aurenh 7 ай бұрын

thank you for watching! hope you enjoy other episodes too.

@amochswohntet4434 6 ай бұрын

To speak to the risk aversion topic, In the past people were afraid to get injured for fear of not being able to work. The competitiveness of sports today would seem insane to people back then, but I actually think we need to instill more risk aversion in the consciousness the sports world today, just for the sake of making the most of our resources and having a more healthy functional society generally.

@worldofdaas 5 ай бұрын

this is a really interesting take, thanks for commenting.

@harrison6082 7 ай бұрын

These are really interesting points! 9:47 10:08 11:05 13:18 38:35 38:51 40:03 43:22 This is my favorite 45:01 47:22 Good point, if the pie doesn't grow, it will be a zero sum game, and then to get ahead, you'd have to take it from someone else. 50:25 55:06

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Are you a techno-optimist by any chance? Thanks for watching, subscribe for new episodes every Tuesday.

@yuta10 7 ай бұрын

Great podcast!

@user-lo4er8wy9l 7 ай бұрын

Fantastic questions, fantastic guest.

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Peter is elite!

@aurenh 7 ай бұрын

thank you!!

@ProfBeckmann 7 ай бұрын

he is so smart… love this.

@sebastianaguiarbrunemeier9192 7 ай бұрын

I'm a simple man. If I see a new Thiel talk, I click.

@aurenh 7 ай бұрын

so do I!

@redtree732 2 ай бұрын

How original.

@MrClockw3rk 7 ай бұрын

I'm glad you brought up his disagreements with Pinker. Most hosts seem afraid to mention it, even though their disagreements on violence are foundational to many of Theil's worldviews. I suspect it's because they don't believe Theil has compelling rebuttals, so bringing it up would risk making him uncomfortable. Peter is brilliant, but his potential energy argument isn't very compelling without data. If he's as interested in hard science as his comment about Pinker failing chemistry suggests, where’s the data? Wheres the study to measure potential violent energy in societies, and how that energy tends to manifest? Theil may be right in the end, but it's going to require a level of rigor similar to Pinker’s.

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

We actually interviewed Steven Pinker for the pod. It might be interesting to you. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d6ubqLCFvMC2YYE.html

@inkgun3993 5 ай бұрын

If you ever want to have interesting and non tripe perspective, just listen to Peter Thiel

@Roberta-my7qr 2 ай бұрын

BTW, America has the reserve currency, and taxes DON'T pay for public services. Taxes are unnecessary, as we have sovereignty of our currency. We sell bonds and print money.

@nemitghosalkar4038 7 ай бұрын

Been his fan for years now. Thanks for this

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Peter is an incredible person. Thanks for watching and please like and subscribe 🙌

@aurenh 7 ай бұрын

thank you for watching!!

@MitchellPorter2025 7 ай бұрын

Skipped through this to hear the argument that science has stagnated for 50 years, and couldn't find it. But I noticed that stagnation in science and stagnation in technology were being discussed as if they were the same thing. I do think there has been a marked slowdown in the number of inventions being turned into commercial products, relative to decades ago. I think there are multiple reasons for this, one being that most of the effort went into computing. But I do not think that a slowdown in scientific discovery is a factor. It is my impression that there is a backlog of scientific and even technical innovation, especially in biology and biotechnology, which has not been commercialized or otherwise brought into daily life. This is not to say that science or invention could not have proceeded faster than it did. In areas of discovery, it's hard to know ahead of time what will work; but, for example, if the human race had bothered to prioritize a goal like rejuvenation, we would probably know much more about the aging process by now, and we would have better ways of easing it or even ways of reversing it. However, in my opinion most of this is academic because of the breakthroughs in AI. We are racing towards superhuman AI there, and of course that means the end of the world as we know it, one way or another.

@__Henry__ 7 ай бұрын

@@Rudolph_Fischer What of op's comment is your comment responding to? or is your comment just guidance elsewhere for the general topic of science and technology?

@leonfa259 7 ай бұрын

I work in medical technology, safety really freezes any progress. To bring a product to market takes at least 6 months of regulatory affairs and cost of often more than a million. Worse is that we can really test it well before it is on the regulartory path and we can not make any important improvements once we started going through the FDA/EMA process. So the design is basically frozen before we have any relevant user experiences and iteration cycles sometimes take 5 years. Aircraft development has basically the same issue. I mean the safety kind of works well, in some areas of engineering, medicinal tech and air travel the safety is on an unbelievably high level but we buy that with very slow innovation. Airplanes are sometimes 60+ years old, infrastructure holds up a hundred plus years and we still use antibiotics from the 50s. But the same thing that keeps them safe keeps freezes innovation so much that we haven't even landed on the moon since the early 70s and the same planes still fly today.

@mennovanlavieren3885 7 ай бұрын

@@leonfa259 THIS!

@ferologics 7 ай бұрын

2:21 obviously there’s way to expand because there’s nobody competing with PayPal software which abolishes any previous notions of sales monetization, it’s like asking “how do you know that the wheel spins?” … “what if people want to stay in the prehistoric age?”

@BrentNally 7 ай бұрын

40:02 I know this video was just made public yesterday, but you’re already behind because the US government now is over $33 trillion in debt and the debt just went up $275 billion in ONE DAY and $442 billion in just the last two weeks….aaaaaanyways, thanks for a great video!

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your comment.

@Usernamebtc 7 ай бұрын

Run away housing prices are a symptom of the lack of store of value assets when inside an rapidly expanding monetary supply.

@u2b83 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, lets store value in human enslavement potential lol Works like a charm until less than 50% of ppl are home owners and finally vote to increase property tax and new constructions.

@Usernamebtc 6 ай бұрын

@@u2b83 bitcoin is the only solution. And it’s still not perfect.

@Lotrfan2004 7 ай бұрын

The bad conventional advice question at the end is so brilliant. I subscribed!

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! New videos every tuesday

@aurenh 7 ай бұрын

thank you for subcribing!!

@montymonto6430 7 ай бұрын

This is the best Thiel interview I have seen. Big questions one after another but somehow it flows together.

@aurenh 7 ай бұрын

thank you!!

@hexpulse2307 7 ай бұрын

Engineering of antibodies in multiple medical treatments has been a huge advancement last 20 years - eye, skin, rheumatology and cancer treated in a lot of cases

@agrove1 7 ай бұрын

Great news podcast find, awesome guest

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@vinaynk 6 ай бұрын

Peter Thiel is repeating the same points he has been making for a long time. Still it is always interesting to listen to him.

@worldofdaas 5 ай бұрын

glad you enjoyed it! Please subscribe for more episodes like this.

@DeepValue47 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for this!

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and great user name :)

@fintech1378 7 ай бұрын

best Peter Thiel's interview ever

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this comment. Go and check our podcast’s episodes.

@ViktorFerenczi 7 ай бұрын

Regarding science "slowdown": What made modern computer technology possible? Wasn't that scientific progress in physics, chemistry and mathematics?

@Rudolph_Fischer 7 ай бұрын

In this interview Thiel made a distinction between progress in the world of bits and progress in the world of atoms (his words).

@mennovanlavieren3885 7 ай бұрын

The invention of the transistor made it possible. Done around 1947 by Bell Labs and in parallel by Telefunken, a German company. Then silicon and practical fabrication was introduced in the '50 and the IC in the '60. Then it was known that this device could be shrunken down until the physics at atomic level became a problem. Where we are today. So all the innovation after that was in the world of bits.

@ankhenaten2 7 ай бұрын

Fbr listed on the asx is the solution for building cheaper high quality houses❤

@OOCASHFLOW 7 ай бұрын

Thiel and Pinker should debate

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Check out Steven Pinker's episode on the pod kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d6ubqLCFvMC2YYE.html we'd love to get them both in the room 🤔

@awh4272 6 ай бұрын

22:36 - If the total energy = kinetic + potential, then Pinker and Thiel are both right. Violence is the kinetic energy only. And if the potential energy for destruction increases (like Thiel said) then that could easily cause violence to decrease (like Pinker claims). Think of it like hiring a huge mean looking bouncer at a party. The potential for total destruction increases but his presence probably lowers the chance for actual kinetic physical violence breaking out.

@moinqidwai5032 2 ай бұрын

While that is true, the fact is that the potential of something happening is rarely ever the catalyst or stimulus for something else happening. Just because the potential energy in terms of violence or destruction that can occur is higher does not mean that the society is going to reorganize itself in the way that it does during actual war time when kinetic energy is higher. So the point that we have had peace and it has potentially contributed to slower technological innovation is still valid as long as you believe that actual war with a relatively equally powerful adversary leads to faster tech innovation.

@awh4272 2 ай бұрын

Agreed. My comment was talking only to his war/potential energy point but you are correct in that nothing motivates people more than a true reason to have progress. @@moinqidwai5032

@dameanvil 7 ай бұрын

00:00 🌐 Peter Thiel believes society has been in a soft lockdown for around 50 years, suggesting a stagnation in progress. 06:18 🛠️ Thiel points out that progress in science and technology has slowed down significantly since the 1970s, particularly in fields like nuclear engineering. 14:02 🏗️ Thiel suggests that centralized government funding initially accelerated science and technology, but led to bureaucratic institutions that hindered long-term progress. 17:17 ☢️ Thiel believes the development of nuclear weapons shifted society's attitude towards risk and innovation, leading to more cautious approaches. 19:25 🌆 Thiel criticizes excessive safety measures inareas like real estate zoning laws, suggesting they stifle progress. 20:45 🧬 Thiel believes the biomedical field could achieve more but faces high barriers, cautioning against complacency in the pursuit of breakthroughs. 44:52 🌍 Peter Thiel discusses the shift in societal divisions, noting a move from factors like race or religion towards political ideology. 46:03 🤝 Thiel suggests that the political polarization in the US may not reflect significant differences in important issues like tech innovation or deficit reduction between Republicans and Democrats. 47:48 💹 Thiel emphasizes the importance of addressing overall economic stagnation as a more critical issue than focusing solely on income inequality or lack of social mobility. 50:44 💰 Thiel discusses the complex tax policy debate around differentiating tax rates for billionaires and millionaires, highlighting challenges in achieving a balanced approach. 52:54 🧠 Thiel suggests that independent thinking and heterodox views might be harder to express in today's digital age, where everything posted online remains permanently accessible. 55:58 🛢️ Thiel speculates on potential emergent properties that mimic conspiracies, particularly in industries with highly inelastic goods like oil, leading to unintended collusion effects. 58:57 🚫 Thiel challenges the idea of universally applicable conventional wisdom, asserting that advice should be tailored to specific contexts and times, rather than adhering to timeless truths.

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

👏👏👏

@slightlygruff 7 ай бұрын

What's runaways nimbiism peter referring to?

@u2b83 7 ай бұрын

not in my back yard ppl voting for zoning restrictions on new constructions

@DangerfieldNewby1984 7 ай бұрын

Biotech Revolution is atom based science advancement which refutes Thiel at 5:30

@lVlarcinW 7 ай бұрын

We do not need larger Government, we need more efficient Government. You have to get to the root of the problem.

@kreek22 7 ай бұрын

Everyone knows this. No one knows how to practically achieve it.

@lVlarcinW 7 ай бұрын

I believe we do know how to achieve it. It’s a matter of actually executing it. It’s like we know how to be healthy. Eat organic food, exercise, don’t stress, socialize, learn new things/skills ect but why is there so many unhealthy people? Because they do not do these things. Things are the way they are because some people benefit from that. It’s not complicated but we make it so. Nothing outside of us will fix this, it’s us!

@Rudolph_Fischer 7 ай бұрын

@@kreek22 Unwind regulatory capture. Step 1: ban all private campaign finance.

@kreek22 7 ай бұрын

@@Rudolph_Fischer Nice ideas, but how do you do that without effectively limiting political speech? If I write a manifesto supporting Dems, then print it at my expense and circulate it at my expense--is that not a form of private campaign finance? Or if I just make speeches in public parks on politics, devoting my $time and effort, is that not also the same thing? How do you police websites and newspapers that produce politically biased articles favoring one side, thereby donating their power of influence?

@Rudolph_Fischer 7 ай бұрын

@@kreek22 No, speech is not private campaign finance. Private campaign finance is fat cat donors and corporations being legally allowed and incentivized to place limitless amounts of cash into the hands of incumbents and candidates, and everyone around them. Step 1: Stop that. Overturn Citizens United and the 2 SCOTUS rulings during the Carter administration.

@Ryan-wf6ib 7 ай бұрын

The true prophet of our time.

@Venturebits 2 ай бұрын

Haha you made him think, excellent job!

@worldofdaas 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this great comment! Please like and subscribe if you enjoyed it. We are a small channel and any interaction helps us reach more people!

@user-hi8zq1qy1i 7 ай бұрын

That’s dangerous man, he hungry !

@phazon6179 7 ай бұрын

incredibly thoughtful Thiel is 👌🏻

@aurenh 7 ай бұрын

the force is strong you

@THCV4 7 ай бұрын

I would highly recommend checking out David Shapiro’s channel for a variety of well-reasoned perspectives on AI safety and potential solutions. He doesn’t just fear-monger like Yudowsky, and he isn’t blindly optimistic. He has been studying the topic for quite some time, and he has some of the most optimistic, well balanced takes on the topic.

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this.

@kreek22 7 ай бұрын

I found his optimism on ASI excessive, unconvincing.

@gzcarroll 7 ай бұрын

Great views from a person with a profound misunderstanding of current scientific institutions and scientists.

@user-hi8zq1qy1i 7 ай бұрын

I’m happy to know he leading the future

@IakonaWayne 7 ай бұрын

someone has to ask Peter about the new corpo city in solano county

@Rudolph_Fischer 7 ай бұрын

I enjoyed whoever's recent article about Solano titled "Why Don't We Just Build New Cities?"

@petersoakell6950 7 ай бұрын

top

@nelsongichuki7157 7 ай бұрын

It's the pauses that indicate deep thinking for me....

@churde 7 ай бұрын

just stumbled upon your page, how does it only have 5k subs. Great content!

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Please share so we can keep growing 🙌

@Rudolph_Fischer 7 ай бұрын

Stumbled upon this page, too, by the YT algo feeding me this PT interview. My only criticism is how briskly the interviewer blew past Thiel's insight about ESG being an Orwellian construct to boost the profits of Big Oil.

@aurenh 7 ай бұрын

@@Rudolph_Fischer thanks for watching!! and agree i could have done a better job diving into the ESG thing -- found that super interesting

@Rudolph_Fischer 7 ай бұрын

@@aurenh It was an illuminating segment, thanks for asking him about it! I'd like to know where else he sees it happening. Sam Altman with OpenAI, for one. And is there a contradiction between his love of monopoly businesses and his frustration that government can't do big projects anymore? I.e., how much of the stagnation is due to regulatory capture? 🤔

@ndiogoudjim4123 7 ай бұрын

L'application de JP Morgan ne m'a pas été envoyé et pourtant je l'ai déjà validé cette façon de procéder n'est pas commode

@ndiogoudjim4123 7 ай бұрын

J'attends de le recevoir pour continuer à travailler

@ferologics 7 ай бұрын

57:54 damn, thiel firing on all cylinders dispensing some serious conspiracy pills

@berniethejet 7 ай бұрын

"We're heading for a very very challenging decade." "'Very' means 'a little bit'."

@worldofdaas 6 ай бұрын

🔍

@u2b83 7 ай бұрын

I'm listening through a 2nd time. I understood everything the first time but Theil's ideas are worth it, maybe I'll catch the next bitcoin investment lol Maybe something along the lines of price inelasticity of tobacco and oil but in the ai automation realm. For examples, once point-to-point package delivery via self-driving minicar becomes a thing, I'm in, ...then bye bye UPS, destroyer of packages who don't honor insurance claims ...rant off

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

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@bbsara0146 7 ай бұрын

How can I get the contact info of peter thiel? Has he abandoned seasteading? I want to build a floating island made out of coral, that will only get stronger the longer its out at sea because the calcium carbonate will fill the holes in its hull similar to roman cement. I was thinking of registering it as a boat so the laws of the cayman islands apply to it.

@BallsDeep-ze2nt 7 ай бұрын

"We finally have it, we're fully sovereign. Just a couple of shareholders grabbing hold of their destinies on the open seas. Beautiful."

@bbsara0146 7 ай бұрын

@@BallsDeep-ze2nt whats wrong with being on a floating coral island being fully soverign free from taxes and mids.

@leonfa259 7 ай бұрын

Look at Sark, it is basically a small kingdom surrounded by water, but taxes are still used because it is cheaper to collectively fund the infrastructure than if everyone builds their own roads, water systems, energy grid, etc. In Adam Smith's book that is the basis of capitalism he speaks about the importance of pricing in externalities, and taxes are used to do that.

@bbsara0146 6 ай бұрын

@@leonfa259 if adam smith had a floating coral island he might think differently.

@A92_ 7 ай бұрын

*PALANTIR!!!!!*

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

PLTR 👋🏻

@deanschulze3129 7 ай бұрын

When Peter Thiel says that science has stagnated for 5 decades I think he is really talking about engineering and technology. Astrophysics, for example, is vibrant. Astrophysicists stood cosmology on its head in the mid 1990s when they discovered that the expansion of the universe is accelerating. The JWST is going to provide more surprises.

@Aigberaedion_Samson 6 ай бұрын

Politically

@Aigberaedion_Samson 6 ай бұрын

Blake masters

@user-yc9ib2he7l 4 ай бұрын

There will be no all encompassing friendly aligned AGI. That is impossible. In fact I think most will not have your best interest in mind as by default they will have the interest of others, for now that will be BigTek. If AGI becomes more democratized, cheap and available. It will be possible to have AI that will be friendly to you personally. Such an AGI could be a buffer against the rest who will be outright malevolent or benevolently destructive.

@aaroncrandal 7 ай бұрын

Ooooooh, a lil Nassim Taleb turkey talk

@8kBluRay 7 ай бұрын

Thiel is a true genius, great interview!

@mikhelBrown 7 ай бұрын

Is it me or does Peter Thiel and Mark Zuckerberg's speech patterns almost sounds the same?

@Run4ch4n 7 ай бұрын

Thiel was Zuckerberg mentor

@ndiogoudjim4123 7 ай бұрын

Les États-Unis d'Amérique est une très grande nation de droit...

@awh4272 7 ай бұрын

5:04 - u might be the mark 11:09 - wokeness is a corporate distraction 20:53 - doing nothing has a cost

@user-hi8zq1qy1i 7 ай бұрын

Good man !

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@irishva2314 4 ай бұрын

The "Hogwart"....

@jl3268 7 ай бұрын

Maybe he could take a pay cut and help solve some of these problems. Like children dying of hunger. With all these billionaires i do not see why this still happens.

@futuristudios 7 ай бұрын

🤔

@worldofdaas 7 ай бұрын

🧐

@ViralKiller 7 ай бұрын

The idiocy of science has been thinking one formula is sufficient to describe anything...Steve Wolfram is spot on with the computational theory

@kreek22 7 ай бұрын

Idiotic science produced the hydrogen bomb and a rocket to the moon.

@Marksman560 7 ай бұрын

Those are the same thing, idiot.

@kerrinnaude2777 7 ай бұрын

ESG burns my ass for every reason under the sun. 5 minutes on LinkedIn listening to the ESG seals clapping makes want to leave this planet.

@sanriosonderweg 7 ай бұрын

Careerists prone to consensus and conformity infest institutions which become risk adverse and sclerotic.

@peachboy595 5 ай бұрын

Ideas are interesting but he leans into the 'conspiratory theorist' role a little too much and perhaps unconvincingly

@JohnKerbaugh 3 ай бұрын

Progressive capital gains taxes?

@kleinleonardo55 6 ай бұрын

You can also read in the biography book why Roger Federer from Switzerland was able to win against all tennis players from 2003 onwards. The very explosive true story about it, the sports espionage crimes against me, on my records, on my good sports work, which is unique in the world. And why the Swiss judiciary was prevented from completing the investigation into the criminal espionage crimes committed by the Roger Federer family clan against me. The investigating Swiss federal public prosecutor had to resign from his office with the help of a malicious background intrigue so that the federal public prosecutor can no longer prosecute Roger Federer's crimes. The intrigue was discussed with another criminal in the background and was carried out with the help of Swiss right-wing populists.

@Stopinvadingmyhardware 7 ай бұрын

The slump coincided with the University Immigration program and the massive IP theft crisis.

@leonfa259 7 ай бұрын

Not really, we just lost all risk appetite and tech optimism.

@Stopinvadingmyhardware 7 ай бұрын

@@leonfa259 which occurred why? We lost manufacturing

@leonfa259 7 ай бұрын

@@Stopinvadingmyhardware As I see it we are not willing to risk lives any if anything goes wrong. We rather not release a drug that saves 20,000 but leads to the death of 1,000 others. Same with aircrafts, infrastructure, engineering, chemistry etc. My grandpa used to fly self build rockets, I can even purchase the propellants legally. The SLS, the worlds largest rocket since Saturn V took more than it's weight in paperwork, cost more than it's size in dollar bills and took 20+ years.

@leonfa259 7 ай бұрын

@@Stopinvadingmyhardware The reason the US lost manufacturing is because it saw it as dirty dangerous work, better done by others. And it's true, manufacturing is dangerous and dirty, service jobs are not dangerous and not dirty.

@Stopinvadingmyhardware 7 ай бұрын

@@leonfa259 That’s not why at all.

@allenschmitz9644 7 ай бұрын

No one ever rode a rocket and lived.

@MostAlpha 7 ай бұрын

AI surpasses the Internet.

@kreek22 7 ай бұрын

Not yet.

@MostAlpha 7 ай бұрын

@@kreek22 it did back when DARPA ran the internet.

@DamienWalter 7 ай бұрын

Is Peter going bankrupt? That pot plant is not the youtube backdrop of a tech billionaire.

@kevinnugent6530 7 ай бұрын

That is not a pot plant

@DamienWalter 7 ай бұрын

@@kevinnugent6530 Pot. Not pot.

@alexp1054 7 ай бұрын

You should see his footwear.

@leonfa259 7 ай бұрын

Once you are rich enough to stop caring about stuff like appearance you often just stop caring.

@Rawdiswar 7 ай бұрын

Thiel for President of the Internet

@petersuvara 7 ай бұрын

It's an AI evolution, not revolution. Neural Networks and predictive models have existed since the 1980s. Just because have a better chat bot, doesn't make it a "revolution". It is way overhyped.

@u2b83 7 ай бұрын

Just keep telling yourself this lol

@petersuvara 7 ай бұрын

@@u2b83 I don't need to keep telling myself this, there's a plethora of other very well researched commentaries on this subject which share my view. The people yelling loudly about this entire technology are those who have financial interest. I was working with Neural Networks for stock market prediction in 2004 for research projects at Monash University in Melbourne. The changes are incremental...

@Roberta-my7qr 2 ай бұрын

Without the free exchange of ideas that comes with collaboration , advances will be slower. Even if the exchange is through the internet (which was MIT's original intent for it's use, FOR FREE). The internet has become a huge shopping mall, monopolized by few, who charge "rent" as a fee for the service. The proliferation of home computing offered unique opportunity for profit seeking. This was not the original intent. Invention of PayPal (lol) to enter the mall, and have immediate settlement also enriched Thiel, who sold it to a BIG store (eBay), while learning everything about us, using this data to further profit, develop algorithms to entice and encourage consumption. In the case of Facebook and Cambridge Analytica, had the ability to rig an election. Pretty dark stuff. What's the hurry? BTW, China has surpassed EVERYONE! They manufacture ONE THIRD of the world's goods. And everyone is buying them. Our manufacturing capability has been stripped, and European nations can't afford the energy necessary for production. Europe has become a vassal to the U.S., in belief that NATO will save them, not seeing we can't be trusted.

@jl3268 7 ай бұрын

Peter is all in on the fountain of youth. But needs to stop the harvesting of humans to do so.

@mistycloud4455 7 ай бұрын

Science Stagnated Because we have peaked in human cognitive potential, ai will change this

@ferologics 7 ай бұрын

28:29 scientists lack the self awareness of their dogmatic pursuits, losing track of reality, perpetuating the academic ouroboros, like a horse with blinds on, who doesn’t see anything else but what’s in front of him

@ferologics 7 ай бұрын

some dogmas are the abuse of scientific method, or the pursuit for a grand theory of everything

@brandonburdette7879 7 ай бұрын

Throw in the towel already, give credit to the CTMU for Simulation Theory. Oh wait, Thiel can’t find a way to make money off that.

@ndiogoudjim4123 7 ай бұрын

Depuis mes débuts je suis victime de cette escroquerie une très grande richesse à PayPal, mes œuvres à la bourse, mes expériences professionnelles ainsi que mes compétences me sont privés par le gouvernement du racismes pur et dure aucune possibilité pour obtenir les fruits de mon labeur.

@ZM-kulashi 5 ай бұрын

Peter got visibly tired towards the end. Then he started repeating one and the same word 4-5 times in a row.

@charlessmyth 7 ай бұрын

Nuclear weapons have not been used since 1945 because the alleged threat is more valuable than the reality that the majority are no more dangerous than a dirty bomb. So Pinker is more right, than wrong :-)