In this episode we discuss: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:10 - Hugh’s voracious curiosity and early years of his acting career 00:07:41 - Self-identity, overworking, and the importance of living well 00:18:00 - Handling criticism and letting go of the desire to please everyone 00:28:22 - Dismissing vitriol on social media, and the challenge of communicating science 00:32:05 - Going with your gut and the value in finding the right partner 00:42:03 - A hard decision that lead to a turning point a turning point in Hugh’s life 00:48:57 - How driven personalities often develop from a place of trauma, and how to avoid going from productive to destructive 01:01:46 - The effect of fame on Hugh’s family 01:10:11 - How Hugh finds the energy to consistently perform, and the spiritual connection he feels when acting 01:30:40 - Hugh’s experiences on the set of The Fountain and the meaning behind the film 01:38:47 - The potential of imagination, the idea of a higher power, and thoughts on science vs. religion 01:47:20 - The deep connection Hugh felt to Logan (his character in Wolverine) 02:01:37 - Reflections on physical aging, emotional wellbeing, and longevity

Two emotionally mature men willing to take a deep dive in front of all of us is medicine of the highest order.

Hugh checking with his wife if he can tell their story is so adorable 😂

There has to be a section on our resumes that is dedicated to our failures. We need to value and highlight our failure as it they are as valuable as our successes and perhaps more important in shaping us and our life journey - changing mindsets!

Peter, thank you. Perhaps your best podcast ever. At least, of the ones I've listen to/watched. And as a subscriber, I've consumed a lot. Some of your greatest work, really. And while I've always loved Hugh, I have a new found love and respect for the man. And thanks for sharing some very personal stuff with us. Can't wait to read your book. Keep up the great work, Doc.

Wait, Pete and Hugh are pals! This is epic! And what a great discussion! 🤙🏼

Such an incredible, vulnerable, open and beautiful dialogue between you two. I will be listening to this multiple times to retain as much as possible. Please keep sharing these amazing moments Peter. 💜

Didn't know I wanted to listen to you and Hugh on a podcast until I listened to this. Excellent discussion!

Please record every conversation you have together and put it on your KZfaq channel ❤ I could listen to you guys talk every day

Defo did not see this coming, but not complaining...

This is absolutely off the charts for excellence, humility, vulnerability and value. Thanks as always Doc!

Hugh Jackman: One of the Best humans, husband, Actor, Person there is in this World.

Thank you I simply loved it, Hugh Jackman and Peter Attia well done, so deep and authentic. 🙏❤👏👏

Erskinviille kings was brilliant and relatable! Hugh Jackman was amazing! I bought the DVD and then went out and bought a region code free DVD player to watch it on!

I've come across this podcast at a pivotal point in my life. Everything happens for a reason, right? It doesn't matter if your are a renowned Doctor and Actor, your candid conversation and personal experiences struck home and has given me new perspectives to consider. As well as some tips & tricks... and a new wine to try 😊. I just want to say thank you both for sharing. I've always been a fan of Mr. Jackman and now a fan of Peter Attia and look forward to listening to more podcasts!

What an absolutely fantastic conversation and podcast, thank you.

The nuggets of wisdom are greatly appreciated and the format of the podcast outright complemented the topics discussed.

🙏🙏🙏 Thanks Mr. Peter and Mr. Hugh.

8 months since this podcast was published and I wish I had experienced it much earlier. Peter, you are a beautiful person - you shared so very much and might have given me the latitude I need to forgive myself. And you just gave me the “permission” I need to be in therapy yet still be an excellent parent and highly functioning individual and society.

Great stuff. Hugh is such a legend both in life and his work

We don’t deserve Hugh Jackman, amazing conversation

Thank you for sharing Peter! 😊

why those this only have 566 likes, this is the great interview of the year. I have learned so much from this on all levels.

I was expecting more training/nutrition discussion but I have to say I didnt miss it. I dont often listen to such long format interviews in continuity but I was captivated. Well done doc and Hugh.

WTF?! Hugh Jackman?? Peter's Rolodex is crazier than I thought!

beautiful, authentic and moving. Thanks guys. in a world of cynicism and polarization/silos, i so appreciated the privilege of listening to your intimate conversation. I came to Peter's podcast because i am a primary care doctor with a deep interest in cardiovascular preventive medicine due to my own family. history, but i come away from this with a new awe. Thank you both so much for your humanity.

Loved this intimate convo!! Felt like a fly on the wall listening in

I have just came across this episode, and while I was aware of both of you, each in his own field of expertise, I am so pleasantly surprised, fascinated of and so addicted to this public conversation between friends, two people so wise and curious, driven to become their best versions, and so much more than they are known for. It has been a feast for this Thanksgiving Day. THANK YOU!

I mean who better to interview for a longevity channel than an immortal mutant?

Unexpectedly great pod!

Really enjoyed this. You're both so real and talk straight. Great chat. Thanks.

I really enjoyed this conversation. Lots of good information that everyone can use.

Absolutely beautiful podcast. ❤️

This conversation is epic!

Love Hugh, great actor, does musicals, Great Wolverine

The heart of things - thanks both!

Great interview !!!!

Enjoyed this conversation between you both

The Drive podcast is the only one I watch/listen too. Another great one thank you.

You both are extremely talented human beings. It's a lovely conversation that stands as an affirmation that we can be beat human beings no matter where we are in life. Also how being grounded doesn't mean you are the lesser. Health , family, friendship and love are what we need most. The rest will fall in place with hard work, perseverance, discipline and good judgement.

Amazing episode

So so great! Makes me love both of these guys even more!

What a treat! Thank you!

Best podcast!!!! Great discussion, loved the deep takeaways.

What a great conversation. And there were practically no medical acronyms I needed to look up afterwards. :-) Cheers, doc - thanks to you and that other guy for the great talk. (laughing)

Oh man, this is exciting!

Awesome conversations!! Thank you for your openness and vulnerability. Your examples are positive for us all.

Thank you for this

An amazing listen… wow!!

I hope this interview goes down as the best one each of you has ever done!! Thank you!

WELL DONE! Both of you for your frankness, curiosity and vulnerability.

Amazing!

This is a great interview!

I can’t wait to read this chapter!

Thank you very much, it's really valuably

Great lighting on both ends

Great podcast 👏

Incredible

I finally got around to watching this after a year lol. I really enjoyed it.

Hugh is a LEGEND

That was awesome invitation I love Hugh jackman he amazing actor but also vary Interesting person . Thank you love listening too your Broadcast.🇨🇦❤️ stay self .

I loved Erskinville kings! I liked the whole cast but Hugh Jackman, was so good it was scary!

Peter, great podcast, please have Dr Paul Mason from Australia on your show👏

Beyond shreds... Jackman's a good interviewer too.

What the heck? I would not have expected to see this interview happening!

Regarding the bit about death and dying..........my background (life work) has been in hospice care. There is beautiful research now being done to lean in more deeply to listen to what those in the midst of the dying process are telling us. Specifically the research being done by Dr. Christopher Kerr and his team at Buffalo Hospice in New York on death bed visions and dreams might be of interest. Quite moving. In their published papers they also make a clear distinction between the qualities of a delirium and death bed visions and dreams. Acknowledging them not only helps the patient facing death but family (flowing into bereavement) and staff. It is also not unusual for the language to shift to a more metaphoric expression as people near death. Literal language not able to capture the ineffable experience they are immersed in. Also more research being done on that. The mystery of life never ceases to amaze me. For what it is worth.

My fav movies with Hugh is Prisoners and The Fountain

Hugh Jackman talking with a huge jacked man

Can't believe how gracious Hugh is putting up with yet another person promoting Joe Rogan lol

My wife’s been talking to me about dialectical therapy. Interesting.

Dr. Attia felt imposter syndrome is mind blowing 🤯 looking forward to this book of wisdoms published 💪🏻

The prestige is one of the best movies ever!

Logan is a sort of symbolic avatar for connection to universe which most humans have lost yet yearn for that's why you love that character Dr Peter

9mins in and best best best best best.

❤️

why Dr. Attia's videos don't have a million views apiece boggles me

Deep

What is the brand of your hat? I've seen it everywhere and can't figure it out from a search

Dr. Attia should post some recipes 😋

13:50 diff types of therapy 22:40 Hugh father didn’t give him advice only let him know what he thought after he made his decisions ======= 22:45 perspective) Hugh father said he’s thinned skin, if Hugh is thin skinned then I’ll be fine and can do whatever I want As a result Hugh doesn’t read reviews, and other things as well because he knows this about himself 25:35 nowadays he gets people he trusts to help him get the temperature and send him only the good stuff He believes it’s worthwhile to read good reviews ========== 27:16 perspective) things can get in Hughs mind and stick with him to this day We’re all human and if he can do everything he’s doing with stuff like this and being thin skinned etc Then I can do anything too 28:45 Social media is where you can get attacked by anyone and you’re not gonna chnage their minds 30:15 So joe Rogan method is post and ghost As someone who can get into very confrontational spaces ====== 35:33 as someone who will always put his work before his wife and she knew it Even someone like this was able to find love And grew and learned He listened to his gut to override all the information And now he sees it as the most important decision he’s ever made 37:50 Hugh also nearly got dumped by his now forever wife, just some perspective, on where things can begin And he gives all the confidence somehow at that point to tell her you’re gonna be with me forever when normally he would cut and run first, just one of those gut feelings almost like god works through you That’s just very different from what you would do normally ======= 41:25 Perpsective) Hugh Jackman says he’s very indecisive wow If he says that then I can do anything too being similar ======== 46:55 another hard decision between actual work that is also his field of work he wants And something that isn’t paying but is his love and passion - once again his dad did not give him his advice or thoughts on it and had Hugh choose himself first And he chose love and passion ======= 52:25 Hugh had/has a lot of fear/anxiety From him mother being sick at young age and having to leave home for a lot of his childhood = Trauma and so there was pleasing nature to his personality developed 53:33 his perfectionism driven by fear of people leaving him And you can turn out very different from siblings even with same experiences Same with me 54:10 Hugh trauma And yeah the diff adaptations to same trauma Both were serving very important needs to each other, and usually more productively than unproductively And at some point those adaptations start to become maladaptive 1:02:00 Oscar was really troubled finding out famous people can get killed by others I rm this feeling this projection when seeing KZfaq turned star singer girl got shot at fan meet and greet 1:04:00 child said stop acting 1:08:00 talking directly to paparazzi 1:21:22 he’s an introvert by nature But when on stage he can become the opposite He believes it relates to his calling 1:22:22 spiritual purpose in life is far broader than the activity to it itself 1:22:56 purpose in life how it makes him feel That it feels like time stops in those movement Spiritual moments in life life have all been on stage 1:27:22 death are you scared 1:30:15 1:34:11 the fountain movie Hits emotions for him that he didn’t understand 1:36:33 because it is true for you it is no less valid than what I made it for Someone made plastic to be used as --- Now people use it for all kinds of different things Interpretation and use is not a isolate unchanging thing nor is it owned 1:40:33 even Hugh has a life coach And Manifestation of destiny Assuming positive And he had the experience recently 1:50:00 Wolverine 1 struggles he wasnt the guy and thought he was gonna get fired And he was bitching to her about this person and that person 2:01:44 Hugh trainer said to mix it up bring in natural body builder 2:02:30 he starts super light on everything 2:04:10 longevity If willing to exercise everyday 2:05:27 abs relationships 2:08:30 there is value in the hard parts of relationships 2:10:16 he embraces aging Even the bags under eyes

You should do a pod with Aubrey de Grey.

I really like and enjoy your podcast, but why do you film your screen when having an online interview instead of just showing the feed itself? It looks really bad and can be quite distracting

Great talent most versatile actor in the zoo

What is the hat the Peter is wearing?

Let’s keep with the Aussie theme…Hemsworth next?

I think Peter is great, but does anyone else get the sense he is just a hairs breadth away from a breakdown? He is obsessed with swimming, cycling, weights, hunting, race car driving… he has like 3 therapists… and takes a ton of supplements every day. I do think he is inspiring in many ways. But I think he is so obsessed with ‘optimising’ his life, I would like to hear him talk about how he manages his own mental health. Does he ever take the time to just sit and do nothing? Or does he ever allow himself to fall off the wagon and accept that that is ok? I just don’t think it’s healthy having such a ‘calculated’ approach to life

Lol I'm watching this watching Logan at the same time

He gets sexier with age.

Only 5 defenders in hoops, mate.

Q Rating of Hugh 99% in down under, yes it better be :)

Married?

I know this is heresy to say.. one should NEVER even THINK like this but... If the total amount of time you will EVER spend with your kids, is mostly done by the time they are 18.. what is the motivation of being so attached and involved when they are young? Is it the hope that the time investment will cause your kids to be different, and that they will want spend time with you as an adult? Or is it so much better than anything else you would want to do with your time? Unfortunately, I think your kids will have the same type of relationship with you that you have with your parents.. that is, it's fine, but they grow up, get married, move somewhere else have kids.. perhaps visit for a few days every other year. Your great grandchildren won't even know your name, so I don't see why optimizing your life for your eulogy is better than the impact Peter and his resume will have on the millions that he reached with his book/podcast. When it comes parenting, whether it's exceptional, or just mediocre, it probably doesn't make much difference.. ala the Gardener and the Carpenter by Alison Gopnik.

Wow you get to interview Hugh Jackman and it only gets 22,000 views? Can you please try and interview Tom Cruise? I doubt you'd get it since it seems he only goes on talk shows, but please try.

I know it’s a trend that everyone wants to run a “Joe Rohan” type podcast and talk about everything under the sun, but I hope this podcast stays with the medical field. Thanks

Allow me to clarify, there will be a new Heaven and a new earth and everyone will receive new bodies that will never decay. Either you will enter the lake of fire or you will enjoy the new earth for eternity!

With his mum leaving him at a young age; he seek a mother figure subconsciously (which he found in his wife) I've listen to him talk about her n sometimes its comes off like a son talking about his mother, instead of, a husband talking about his wife. I think he has abandonment issues n he mentioned in another interview that even if a decision turns out to not be a great one, he'll stick with it. He married the first woman he meet on his first job without properly understanding this huge decision he was making for himself and the impact it would have on his mentality n behaviour. She n him were in different places in their lives when they met. He being 26 n her being 39. She couldn't give him biological children (not her fault) but if I was his mum or dad it would bother me. I mean it has to be something he thinks about. He will have no legacy to carry on his likeness on earth. Adoption is selfless n a beautiful things to give a child a home n family but his children CAN'T carry on his legacy through blood. When he dies that's it. His generation dies with him. If society believed in men having more than one women (wife), problem solved. Ijs🤔

You didn't ask him about his steroid stack?

He is GAY ?

Are you interested in immortality? Christ…I urge you to at least read the Bible. I once read, if you don’t know the purpose of a thing, eventually you’ll abuse it…that’s with Abby and everything including life…the wages of sin is death. Here’s the deal, if I’m wrong you have nothing to worry about, but if not, you have everything to worry about. If Yahweh exist (which He does) then the only thing that matters is confirming your life to that truth. The fear of god is the beginning of wisdom.