Always had one for over 32 years and still own one but its only the original 1.9 Turbo Technics . One of the most fun cars to drive ever.
@MrGwaldo Жыл бұрын
I’ve had my 1.9 for 25 years. Never tried a TT though. Fast I bet? Does it have an LSD?
@karlgaff9303 Жыл бұрын
I've got a Dimma. Had it for 27 years. Great car. 👍👍
@cogboy302 Жыл бұрын
Never been a fan of the Dimma 205. It's trying to look like a 205 T16 and it's not one. Probably shouldn't say that as I know Terry Pankhurst who owns Dimma.
@amnril Жыл бұрын
Late 30’s, early 40’s??? I’m middle 50’s and was 17/18 yrs old when the 205 GTi first appeared and trust me, I wanted one with a passion. Btw, I have a Miami Blue 1.9 GTi in my garage 👌🙂
@GoldenCroc Жыл бұрын
Yeah that age range didnt make nuch sense for "buying them when new", perhaps he mentally thought they were at least 10 years or so newer than they are.
@MrGwaldo Жыл бұрын
I’ve had mine 25 years. Same story with me and I’m 46.
@mikeormond7883 Жыл бұрын
These were still for sale new in 1995 (just) I started driving in 98 and I’m nearly 42.
@BDogs103 ай бұрын
Late 30s, early 40s? I had to think on that one. Still remember a shiny cardboard brochure I had on my bedroom desk maybe 1989/1990 & I was 15 or 16. Bought an mx5 about 12mths ago(another childhood dream) hated it & have since sold. I gotta look into the little Pug
@jonathonblacker299 Жыл бұрын
When at Peugeot back in the 2000s, when they pulled the plug on the Ryton Factory (Back in those days cars were pilled up high around a manufacture factory) they did a inventory of what was on site and they discovered a Brand New 205 GTi that had been sitting in the car park for years, clearly missed of a spreadsheet, this was 2006, now that where ever it went would be a collectors item.
@markgrump4095 Жыл бұрын
I've got a 1.6 gti rally car, love it quick spin to the shop down the back roads of North Wales 🏴🏴 big smiles every time
@pauljeffries Жыл бұрын
Great cars, I never had a 205GTI but I did have a 1992 309GTI, that was a great car.
@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge Жыл бұрын
The only car better than a 205 GTI is a 309 GTI after all. Only have a regular one, but even that handles and drives better than anything else I've driven. Unfortunately I doubt I'll ever even see a GTI, let alone own one, I own one of 15 309s remaining where I live.
@jonathonblacker299 Жыл бұрын
legend has it they put a 309 Gti out on circuit against a same year Ferrari, and even though the horse was quicker in a straight line, the 309 was quicker on the bends.
@simes205 Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned one for 22years!! It only does about 500 miles a year these days. It has an Mi16 on Jenveys 😊
@mikeygti8930 Жыл бұрын
Same as me, 24 years this year, Mi16 on bodies. Love the thing!
@richardjuniper Жыл бұрын
I had one when I was 19 - absolutely LOVED it. It wasn't a great example, but was one of the best cars I've ever owned and miss it loads
@chucku00 Жыл бұрын
During the era of the 205 GTI, Peugeot also sold a barebones 1.3L carbureted version named 205 Rallye, so the name itself was clearly showing its orientation.
@mfordy1056 Жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to have a 1.9GTI that I bought 32 years ago when I was 20 ish, it was the first gen 1987 model. I had it for about 10 years and truly immaculate when I sold it on. I still regret selling it but I did not have the space to keep it. As per the reviews, it was just so tactile and alive to drive, so direct and the throttle response instantaneous. The scare of lift off over steer was not as bad as reported and it was a true 130 mph indicated top speed (of course reputedly 😀).
@8kphil Жыл бұрын
I've owned a 205 Gti 1.6 and 2 UK model 205 Rallye's love love love these cars! So engaging and fun to drive! Wish I still owned them now! 😪
@453421abcdefg12345 Жыл бұрын
This is just about the ultimate small car, an excellent all rounder!
@GPH2474 Жыл бұрын
I spent 3 months in the mid 2000s trying to find a good one, eventually stumbling across a mint 309 goodwood gti.
@jonnyfartpants Жыл бұрын
Had a few. Great fun cars. The 1.6 was WAY more fun to drive.
@odl21 Жыл бұрын
agreed.
@darrenhalliwell974 Жыл бұрын
I think our man likes the 205, had my first 1.6 GTI in 1991 selling my MK1 XR2 to purchase a car that was as I see it leagues ahead of the Ford. Had many over the years and still have a 1.9 GTI and a 1.6 CTI... Still having fun....
@amnril Жыл бұрын
Good man Darren 👍
@mhhfgjcccc9225 Жыл бұрын
Gutted I sold my 1.9 Wish I kept it all those years ago..
@JamesCairney Жыл бұрын
I had a 205 1.1 style nearly 20 years ago, i stuck a 1.4 in it and XS front and rear valance, so it was a 1.4 XS imposter. Brilliant car!
@gregrobins5615 Жыл бұрын
Still the best looking hatchback in history is the legendary 205 GTI.
@markhancox5475 Жыл бұрын
I had a 1.9 in 1992 when I was 26. Coming from a 900cc superbike it never felt that fast but boy did it handle! The best handling car I’ve ever owned closely followed by a mark 1 Focus. So tactile and confidence inspiring ❤
@coldvaper Жыл бұрын
Wish we got these in the States. Timeless design for sure.
@jermainerobinson7098 Жыл бұрын
Great car I remember when theses cars were getting sold for £1500 when l was at school and l was dreaming looking at the max power magazine lf we new what we new today l would have stacked loads of cars lol great video keep them coming 👏🏽👍🏾
@garyazukx Жыл бұрын
Back in the day, I used to drive for a specialist car dealer in Kensington. If my memory serves me well, When they first came out we used to pick these and Renault turbo 2’s up of the boat in Dover and take them to a place near silverstone to them converted to RHD. Such a thrill to drive these in my 20’s and not have worry about the insurance 😊
@windoe63454 ай бұрын
I bought a Miami blue 1.9 in 1992 and I still have it . 😊
@andyb3666 Жыл бұрын
If you can find one these days that hasn't rusted away, a 205 XS, while only a 1.4, is still a lot of fun to drive and cheaper than a GTI.
@odl21 Жыл бұрын
I have a mint original 1.6 with 30k km on it that i bought 8 years ago. despite only adding 2-3k km in that time i absolutely love driving it.
@SterlingMess Жыл бұрын
It's a small detail, but the tacho, with 2-digit markers, perfectly compliments the speedometer. Alfa Romeo used to do as well. Great video, Chris!
@AndrewSimmonds696 Жыл бұрын
defo my fav car.
@velocgee28749 ай бұрын
That exhaust sounds remarkably similar to the original ‘splattery-sounding’ one. edit: comment was made while watching vid and so hadn’t got to the part when Tolman actually explain that it is a reproduction of the original. For me, that is the coolest part of what they have done.
@cribs4551 Жыл бұрын
I bought a secondhand 1988 Renault 5GT Turbo back in 1996 when I was 19. It cost me 90% of my monthly £300 pay packet to own it and a shed load more to keep it on the road. But I cannot complain, I used to drive it between Germany and the UK 3 times a year with little fuss. Okay, once it decided to throw the exhaust down the autobahn and another time the clutch cable snapped at the gearbox/clutch bracket and I repaired it with celotape and drove it over 600 miles home but I really loved that thing. It wasn’t good for me but I loved it. Even looking at videos of one today makes my heart thump. ❤
@Gofast1234 Жыл бұрын
Would love that dash conversion on my 205
@b6eunos Жыл бұрын
Fantastic as always. Loving the group B clips. Keep up the stellar work. Aged 19 I remember experiencing lift off oversteer as a passenger in one of these. Scary yet hilarious all in one motion.
@richcraven9207 Жыл бұрын
At work we had Golf GTI s XR2 & 3 but it was always the 205GTI I went for. Preferred the 1.6 to the 1.9 as it seemed a bit more nimble.
@markgrump4095 Жыл бұрын
Love my 205 1.6 gti rally car amazing little car round the back roads of Anglesey
@deanprosser5224 Жыл бұрын
I need a new exhaust so went to the Tolman site, I nearly fell off my seat £1400! It does look nice through
@mikeormond7883 Жыл бұрын
It’s £55k for their 1.6 conversions and over £120k for their 1.9 16v 😮 the exhaust seems a bargain.
@NickThornhill Жыл бұрын
I k ow the 205 and toleman video thing has been done before but this is by far the best video out there.
@tim205Mi Жыл бұрын
Great video, think you captured the car perfectly, I own a few, 1.6, 1.9, Mi16……. etc….really don’t think there is much else that ticks my boxes…. Owned most cars out there and don’t hanker after anything else…. Definitely go out and buy one, any model is great fun and the main thing that is really noticeable is weight! It helps the car in every aspect….. cars of today are just too heavy…. Keep the great vids coming… 👍👍
@gixerloon Жыл бұрын
I had a 1.6GTI back in the day, it was a brilliant little B-road scratcher, I remember paying about £800 for comp insurance, which was the most I'd ever paid, crazy times, few years later, I got a 309GTI which was better in the corners due to the wider track, with a tuned 1.9 it was pretty quick fir those days, both were great fun, as a member of the Peugeot GTI club, I went to Silverstone every year for a blast round the circuit, great times. 😁 would love a Tolman 205 as a second car.
@Jeepcamper4x4 Жыл бұрын
I'd love one to keep in a garage and take out on weekends. I remember my parents old Citroen BX having the same clocks
@otacon4065 Жыл бұрын
the best bit is when they loose oil pressure and the oil overheats and both gauges symmetrically hit the red, along with lift off oversteer in a straight line.
@rickydub6950 Жыл бұрын
😁 only car i have owned that i have nearly crashed so many times lol i was young then though... 😂
@otacon4065 Жыл бұрын
@@rickydub6950 yeah, hardly the best fwd hot hatch handling is it!
@rickydub6950 Жыл бұрын
@Otacon so bad i recently bought the car back.. lol found it 300 miles away after 15 years and 8 owners... rolling shell and van full of bits... 1989 1.6 Sorrento Green.. hopefully back on the road 2024... 😂 🤞
@mikeygti8930 Жыл бұрын
@@otacon4065 It was prone to snap lift off over steer. When you learned the car, nothing much could keep up. If you were ham fisted with it, it would bite hard!
@otacon4065 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeygti8930 I'd rather an EF9 SiR or CRX SiR - 820-1000kg vtec/160bhp/8200rpm - WAY better handling cars that you can track on a weekend straight out of the box as with the EK9
@GinoFoto11 ай бұрын
Relationship to a T16 machine is just like today's i20N to Rally1 special, almost non existent, but still there. :-)
@christophersprake2302 Жыл бұрын
You can smell that sweet burning of engine oil coming through those air vents when you used to drive the nuts off these down the back lanes
@kizzyp2735 Жыл бұрын
Right so you have just done a Rover 800 fastback , had one and wish I still had it . 205 gti had one and wish I still had it ... If you go anywhere near series land rovers next I think I will cry !!!!
@TheStwat Жыл бұрын
Late 30's early 40's? Hows about those of us in our 50's who also lusted after these cars in our teens and twenties?
@GoldenCroc Жыл бұрын
Yeah, was an odd range. No one in that range could legally drive when they were produced.
@marksouthwell44905 ай бұрын
Hehe, I lusted after this model . I had to settle for the 1.0xl . Even the 1.0 was a great little car, underpowered but fun to drive . I can only imagine what the GTI was like to drive . I'm in my early to mid 50's
@leskouts2 Жыл бұрын
Simplicity... Didn't have a GTi but drove my mates left hand drive standard 205 around London. Simple, cute and easy with a nice design. Analogue A fan of the Renault 5 as well
@mikeormond7883 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had 3.. 2 I bought in the 90s early 2000s both for less than £500. Currently own one which I paid a LOT more for a couple of years ago. Don’t know if it was mentioned but these conversions start at £55,000 for the 1.6. And about £120,000 for the 16v 😮 What a machine though!!
@BDogs103 ай бұрын
Good grief Man😂, the Ferris Bueller quote was random & takes me back.
@jmpcrx Жыл бұрын
Got a black 1.6 gti when i was younger, paid £80 for it lol. (had a blown head gasket, dropped in a new engine for £50 from the scrappie, and had a new car, was awsome! - (at liest until upgraded to a crx mk2 vtec a few yaers later lol))
@markrigg7038 Жыл бұрын
Had 2 of the 1.9s , wish I'd never sold them 😭🤦♂️
@harryandemilymunier3551 Жыл бұрын
My first car was a 1.9 GTI I still have it 12 years later.
@lionatelier Жыл бұрын
I wonder if they would spec it with the EW10J4S I truly think the all alloy high air flow characteristic of that engine would be insane and it would bolt straight in.
@huwdavies6650 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding car, but its sister the 309 had slightly better balance. In fact quite a few people on the 205 rally scene used to fit 309 rear suspension assemblies as it had a slightly wider track and would dial down the tendency to end up going backwards through a hedge.
@oldschoolpaul73 Жыл бұрын
Great car. Great vid. On my fifth 👍
@Vespastendert Жыл бұрын
Good, now i have to go back 15 years to afford one :)
@boriss.861 Жыл бұрын
Renault 5 GT Turbo 2! and the 6R4.. Two brilliant cars as well!
@odl21 Жыл бұрын
do the mean the renault 5 turbo? if so its a different class, RWD midengined and worth a lot more. the GT turbo was the FWD front engined one and it wasn't called the 2.
@GoldenCroc Жыл бұрын
@@odl21 Maybe he meant mk2 renault 5? In any case, its a pretty sweet car.
@adambcvg Жыл бұрын
306 Gti6, 99% of the fun, more practical, a lot, lot safer, faster and cost bugger all still.
@andyb3666 Жыл бұрын
Those aren't cheap anymore and going up too, obvs still less than a 205 mind.
@davidhunternyc1 Жыл бұрын
Did you buy one? I would love a Tolman but I would choose to have the analog gauge cluster.
@ALs_Autos Жыл бұрын
I remember my dad buying a 205 gti 1.9 for 250 quid back in the day
@RossWalkerrosswlkr Жыл бұрын
Back in 2000-2002 had a 1.6 in these colors on the pepperpot wheels with black and red cloth interior ... never bettered the driving experience. G952 SRC (UK) if you locate it, let me know. I still have the original key ;)
@Levenstone132 Жыл бұрын
Always thought these were a great looking little car. Closest I got was a set of those wheels on my J reg. C15 van (Some hammerage needed on the inner bodywork to get some clearance!)
@MagaliMorris7 ай бұрын
Renault was the brand of our parents citroen our grand parents and Peugeot was the brand of the youngest😂 the only concurrent of the 205 GTI was the Renault super 5 GT turbo! Those 2 everywhere during 80's and 90's
@irnickkkknowles Жыл бұрын
Had a 1.6 GTI. Was fast enough for me to search for 4th even though I was already on 5th...
@benwilliams5760 Жыл бұрын
I can pretend in my 1.1 205, right?
@maxmcilmail5933 Жыл бұрын
It has to be a 1.9
@kevanmccaffrey8513 Жыл бұрын
Golf VR5 the next pug 205 GTI.. better in every way" the last all rounder hot hatch.
@Globeglider Жыл бұрын
I've got two..one stock one i'm resto-moding
@davidpepper5306 Жыл бұрын
Not a fan twitchy flimsy uncomfortable a friend has a 1.9 gti massively overrated not a Vw fan but The golf if slower was a much more complete car as was the Renault 5 turbo Was much more fun seems at the time the press thought we all commuted by B roads and were race car drivers and didn't mind a car that didn't idle properly and was a complete nightmare to drive around town and the XR2 was slower didn't drive as well out sold it enough said.
@angelamurtagh1221 Жыл бұрын
I also had a 309gti which was voted 2nd best hothach after the Williams clio a few years ago, the 309 wasn't as squirrely as the 205 but you're not supposed to say that 😉 🙄
@mbfcamanslife Жыл бұрын
I've owned one since 96 (the same one) it is a scream to drive but if you get one now it will need welding and it won't tick over properly and in slow traffic it's a bit of a pain, Oh and if you crash you have had it they are made of tinfoil
@bw0447 ай бұрын
1:03 music name??
@craighorton6387 Жыл бұрын
Never saw what people liked about them in my opinion very cheap,tinny looking to me, i would much prefer a Reno 5 gt 🤷♂️
@EgoShredder Жыл бұрын
So is there much difference in power output between a 1.6 and 1.9? I take it one has a CAT and the other does not? Your 1.6 has a very sweet sounding engine, very addictive!
@mikeygti8930 Жыл бұрын
The 1.6 is alot more rev happy than the 1.9 which is lazier and produces much more torque. Power outputs were 105 for very early 1.6 which rose to 115 in about 1986. 1.9's were 128bhp which dropped to 122bhp when fitted with a Catalyst from 1992 till1994.
@EgoShredder Жыл бұрын
@@mikeygti8930 Sounds like the 1.6 is the one to have then.
@julianwebb8712 Жыл бұрын
Bigger is better so the 1.9 is the one to have…….It’s 0.3 more so a no brainer 😂
@GoldenCroc Жыл бұрын
@@EgoShredder Engine swap the 16v 1.9 in and do some work to it is the "true" answer....
@MrGwaldo Жыл бұрын
@@EgoShredder non-cat 1.9 is the best. 1.6 gearbox gives zingier acceleration.
@Pyjamarama119 ай бұрын
Vale' the millions who lost their lives standing near a rally track I'm so glad everything is so safe and sterile these days
@user-ky4nt6mi8w7 ай бұрын
Couldn’t afford one but now we can 🤔we’re not all rich pal 🤦🏼♂️😅
@JAY61ish Жыл бұрын
Call me weird .. but i always preferred the 306..
@Ad0akes Жыл бұрын
When i used to drive my nans Rover 100 Kensington i thought i was driving a 6R4
@BluPrinTAutosport9 ай бұрын
Nice effort but shame that it’s full of mistakes/wrong info. ‘Tolbert’?!!
@phuketexplorer Жыл бұрын
Great commercial got Tolman, but the original 205 is a dog!
@RobertAmine Жыл бұрын
renault clio williams was way better.. what a sound
@freetobe3 Жыл бұрын
One big reason to not buy one: I want one too but my wallet won't like the future price.
@benbirch2393 Жыл бұрын
Just far too expensive now for what they are / offer. Late 90s/early 00s hot hatches offer just as much analogue fun for a tenth of the cost. Same with the R5 GTT, just ridiculous (and I'm a 5GTT man)
@GoldenCroc Жыл бұрын
Its a collectors car these days, as this video shows; the entire business of these restorations are collector dtiven for sure. And collector cars are always overpriced from a strictly driving point of view.
@andyb3666 Жыл бұрын
@ Ben Birch Those cars will go the same way in the near future like Saxo VTS for example already are starting to, so now would be the time to avoid missing out.
@patrickcrean7813Ай бұрын
309 gti is a better car though.
@kenking12289 ай бұрын
The Xr ,Xt , Gr and Gt were much more fun to drive than the Gtis ,1.6 Gti was crap ,you had to reset the injection system every time you changed the oil and filter ,worked for peugeot for 30 yrs,just because it’s got Gti on it people wank theirselves silly!. The TU engine was a nice little revvy engine the XU more lumbering and unexciting!.driven all models extensively definitely not impressed with the GTI although the wannabe boy racers and car magazine readers did and still love them!.
@markw4377 Жыл бұрын
Interieur can by better is not original what you have in the 205 GTI. The front seats are in mine upion not nice made. They missed the orginal look. But the 205 GTI best car ever, because I have an 205 GTI 1.9 Griffe almost 17 years and stay by me. Can not life with out it 🙂
@phuketexplorer Жыл бұрын
Great commercial for Tolman, but the original 205 is a dog!
@darrenhalliwell7545 Жыл бұрын
Expand, I take it your experience is from ownership of either a new or well used example?
@jimclarke1108 Жыл бұрын
Iv worked on peugeots for a few years, seen a 1.9, 205 engine with conrods out through both sides of the block, not sure what to think, but definitely wouldn't own one
@edltommyrobinson9782 Жыл бұрын
No i don't.! Cool car at the time But the 1.9 was hideous to drive round town. Lumpy engine and no power steering, Ok on a run but as an every day driver, No, thank you. Btw owned about 5 over the years, the 1.6 was the better drive imho.
@velocgee28749 ай бұрын
They could suffer the dreaded ‘Kangeroo’ing’
@BilloBob123111 ай бұрын
Late 30s....
@RobertAmine Жыл бұрын
i had a 1.9 gti in red.. what a pos... never ever got a peugeot again... was fast though.. but my friends citroen zx was better and faster
@daw7563 Жыл бұрын
Fun car unfortunately a total deathtrap.
@whizzkid1828 ай бұрын
I can give you the biggest reason not to buy one, it’s outrageous price 😂 it’s really not worth it