99,9% of people who hate it are stupid little brats who never even came close to this car, let alone spent any time with it to be able to judge it, they hate something based on nothing. It won car of the year award in almost every European country, and people who know what the fuck they're talking about decided about that. This car has no major objective downsides. It's very well made, roomy, looks nice, very practical, has great modern engines, great chassis, it's very safe, very well equipped, fairly priced, etc. You don't like the screen? It's your problem, it's doesn't mean the car is bad, some of us like it. You don't like the small steering setup? Again, your personal preference, doesn't mean it's bad, some prefer it. You think it's not fun enough to drive? Well...I think you'll appreciate the comfort and refinement much more in a long run than a slightly sharper handling car, something that you'll notice only once in a while, as opposed to comfort which you notice all the time. This is car that you do a 1000 km journey in, and you come out feeling fresh like you never traveled at all, and that's something only good cars can do, regardless of price. The interior quality of this car is also top notch. No other car in the segment (and many in the segment above) feels as special inside. It has very premium feel inside, high quality soft touch plastics all over the place, real aluminium pieces, no fake materials, etc. combined with a very futuristic and minimalistic design, which actually is very claming when you sit inside it, it's a car that makes you feel good when you sit inside, or to use the cliche, it has that french charm about it, but in a modern way.

derbigpr500 woah, I never said I hated the dash. It looks absolutely great, but I could live with it having a bit more buttons. that's all I said. I really like this car, but you have to admit, the screen looks really laggy.

derbigpr500 But the reputation of Peugeot is one of boring, none to reliable cars. Isn't really changing.

+kirbyswarp Made of human waste.

It's reviewer bias. All reviews in the UK basically go like this: buy a Golf, Astra or Focus instead.

and another page said that the new 208 and 2008 are being much better than the older models, even the new 308 hatch people are happy whit it...

www.reliabilityindex.com/news/52/States%20of%20Repair%20%E2%80%93%20Japanese%20and%20French%20brands%20top%20international%20league%20table%20of%20car%20reliability

He complains about things that are very subjective. He doesn't like the touch screen and he doesn't like the small steering. He then presents it as bad points of the car. Why? Because he's biased, you can clearly see that in all Matts reviews of french cars, he always finds the most minor things, then overexaggerates them to make it seem like it's a shitty car. And you noticed the rear leg room as well. You see how much space there is? At least 15 cm's from his knee to the front seat, and he said there's not enough space....

He says the system is not a good as that in a vw well I was in a few new vws just to give them another chance and see what all the fuss was about!! However the Peugeot is far superior and I mean far superior in terms of quality! The screen on the new vw Passat is especially bad! When you press on one of the buttons the screen actually pixilates, it feels really bad quality like that of the quality on my old 2012 Passat! It still feels flimsy, so I really don't know why all these reviews are so German biased!

Do you still have the car?

Well if they don't care about reading the manual, that's what happens, shitty review.

as a french man i approve .

I agree. That's snobbery and received opinion for you! Both are rife in England. I'm English by the way.

Very true. Just got a 308 and steering is absolutely amazing. The screen isn't slow at all.

Yes, you may want an estate to fit in the kids, luggage and a dog, but why would you also not want it to be fun to drive?

Try a Merc C250 - nice kit

***** Actually if you are going to drive tons of kilometers, you'd better need a less fun and more comfy suspension. Firmer suspension will be less confortable in spite of taking curbs faster and being more fun.

Actually this car delivers both. It is comfortable and thanks to the near perfect feel in the steering and the small steering wheel it is also so much fun on a twisty backroad. Take it out for a spin, because we all have different tastes, but I surely like a more comfortable car against one with a stiffer suspension because of the bad road we have.

Tbf if I was using a touch screen to do everything I would be annoyed if it took forever too

Maybe it took longer because it had more faults?

BartSimpson not really, they spend a lot of time showing the best state attributes it had and only complained about the fact the interior could have been made only whit nice touch plastics and that its not the funniest state on the market, the touch screen is a matter of days until you get used to it, however i agree that can not be as good as traditional buttons but face it, its a matter of time until the rest of automakers go that way to, Peugeot is not the first...

rui518 Stuff like that is pretty bad faults though, you don't want to have to change menu's every time you are going to change the heat etc. It's actually almost verging on being dangerous. User friendliness is a big part of making a good driver environment. But as Mat pointed out, it's dull to drive so you'll probably be going so slowly it won't be as much of a problem :P

G0ML3 did you realize that you have a nice virtual button for each big menu and lets face it how many times during driving access the menus? really see on your car, in mine the only thing i make a few times is changing the radio and for that you have the steering button, the air con is set when you get in the car probably adjust it once after driving but not always changing the settings...

rui518 Tbh the screen is not that good from what I can tell and on top of that there is glare. But it's French made, they rarely get everything right lol. If it was Japanese or German this wouldn't be a problem lol.

you are 💯 right

Mirko Zlikovski odakle si ?

I'm 185cm and I can't get my head around how he got his seat in such a bad position. I've tried everything and I just can't see how he would drive like that 😂

the base model, normal radio and normal heater controls, but no AC...

Hear hear. I agree. It's only issue is that it's not German enough for badge snobs. Not such a bad thing for me.

Even a Skoda is better off.

LP KZfaq Channel Yeah but is it reliable ? judging by the forums I think not.

+Chris Miller We probably won't do a video of it any time soon, but my colleague drove one yesterday and says it has a good cabin, drives well, and only has a few "ergonomic quirks". The diesel and Puretech engines are both "very good" though both have a Sport button that pumps artificial engine noises into the cabin... a matter of taste!

Thanks for the quick reply definately going for the 1.2 puretech auto, think the sport mode is an extra don't know if its worth it for a bit of synthetic noise. Thanks again

It's actually a move by PSA to make Peugeout more premium whilst Citroën remains affordable. This car is meant to take some customers from Mercedes (C-class) and BMW (3-series) by offering more modern features.

Erik Nyberg not c-class or 3-series but a-class and 1-series, peugeot will not be the premium brand, it will be the best non premium brand on the road that will be able to take down a few premium brands, DS will be the ones being premium...

rui518 308 is a much bigger car than the A class and 1-series. C class and 3-series are the higher end "low-cost" products of the premium Germans, PSA wants to attract these customers by offering more for less. You can read more about it here: goo.gl/fYSKBN

Erik Nyberg but the size is very different, the 3 series is 30 cm longer than the 308, however when we are talking about the SW and the touring the story is a little different, the BMW is only 5 cm bigger and has less 115 liters of space, the price difference is considerable, i just made a configuration and the 308 sw whit 2.0 hdi auto full extras is 42,000€ bmw 320d ED auto whit similar extras (possible a few of them are not completely similar is hard to see) is 65,000€... Just the time will tell, but this guys on this videos always put down french cars...

It's not important in these reviews.

i think that the engine has enough power for overtake, i have a 406 SW HDi it has less torque and less power than this one and wights almost more 300 Kilos and even whit 2 friends and the boot complete full and whit more than 250K Km driven it easely overtake a car that is making 90Km/h...

What makes you think a small engine will bog down? It doesn't matter what size it is. You think a 7 liter V8 with 130hp and 250 Nm of torque would be faster than a 1.2 3 cyl with 130hp and 250 Nm of torque?

Smaller engines tend to have low torque and (in the case of naturally aspirated variants) less bhp. I will concede that there may be exceptions to the rule, but smaller engines tend to struggle with loaded cars than larger engines with more torque on tap.

Small turbo engines are heavily favoured in the NEDC, which is the static test made to determine fuel economy. The problem is that NEDC is performed _stationary_, _indoors_, at 22 C (an ideal temperature), with _all_ power consuming devices off (lights, aircon, radio etc.) and of course without any load at all. You will _never_ achieve the NEDC rating in the real world. Yes, it's the same test that all manufacturers refer to but in reality it all comes down to how good they are at optimising their cars for the cycle. Japanese and American manufacturers have complained that their cars are rated unfairly and indeed if you look at Mazda they have decided to ditch the turbo and go for more displacement because that results in lower real life consumtion.

Magma Hi what kind of problems you had ?

it will be changed this year if i record well and the C5 Estate is a bigger segment...

how can you use a computer and have a google+ account if you think that one of the simply laid board computer is hard to use...

I don't have to use my Google+ account while driving a car :D And why should I press 2 or 3 buttons on the touchscreen to change the temperature instead of turning a wheel to adjust it.

+Benny Kleykens They DO

no , when you touch the screen , the air conditioned screen arrives in first , it s very easy ., after the radio screen arrives automatically . it s not dangerous . and the picture is big and clear to use it .you don t need to search everywhere when you drive . it s more easy than small buttons in the down of the dash board. i have been surprised by the simplicity . it 's well designed .

I agree... any kind of these "multi-purpose colour TV's" in cars is more then less a bad idea and well placed control button that can be operated "blindly" by touch&feel" is better... but I have to say that this PSA's touch screen system is one of the least complicated in terms of transparency and ease of use... practically each control is just "two presses away", graphic is big and easy to "read" and the touch screen, though not the epitome of ultra swift response, is not nearly that drastically slow as Mat likes to "wail" about... ;). in terms of "usability" it beats classic MMI "turn button" system I had in A4 hands down!

you don't need it, you are not always changing the AC or heater and the front and rear defroster still have a normal button on the dash, radio volume still a round button... lets be honest you always are looking to other places when driving, for what a read and saw the touch screen has large virtual buttons so its easy to use, only the satnav is a little crappy and slow...

Let me tell you a secret I've found after living with the 308 for a week when we tested it. The climate control screen is the one you have on the screen 99% of the time. Why? Because all other screens you can have are just menus to set up stuff. You control the radio completely from the steering wheel, and you have the touch screen for the climate control. The only time you have to go away is when you use the sat nav.

Satnav is acc really good! Dose not lag, this man has a serious problem with Peugeot!

Is that the reason why some English don't like French cars? They suppose French don't lik them!

Yeah that is a shame! It is more economical for the car-company but feels bad for us consumers. Luckily I live in a country where we drive on the right side in the cars...what I mean the steering wheel is on the left side! ;)

Peugeot also don't bother moving the bonnet release latch, so if you need to open it on the side of the road you need to step into traffic. Fun!

no mat is not objectiv , just see yourself this car , it s a good interior quality and the touch screen is well designed with a normal speed . the chassis is light , very good handling too , low consumption . peugeot has done a good job . even the price is good .