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PF2e Class Summaries: Tank Classes - Winter 2024

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In this video, I describe four classes which make good tanks in Pathfinder Second Edition. If anyone has additional questions, feel free to ask them in the comments!

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@DjGameKing
@DjGameKing 6 ай бұрын
Water Kineticist as a tank wasn't something I was thinking about, but that is a good suggestion to be honest! Thanks for that! Also, small correction, around 2:45 you mention that Mountain Stance for Monk ends when they move. It doesn't actually, it only ends if they stop touching the ground. It is a small, but important difference for how that ability plays out. Either way though, good video! I will definitely be checking out the rest of your channel :D
@Cydewyn-fl4pm
@Cydewyn-fl4pm 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the correction. I thought it ended on movement due to how it played out in my game.
@teddennison344
@teddennison344 3 ай бұрын
As a longtime PF2 GM, the thing you want in a tank is stuff that encourages mobs to attack you. High AC and low DPS makes you bottom of the priority list. So ditch the shield! Champions IMHO are the only true tanks, because they do a boatload of extra damage/debuffing if you attack anyone other than them.
@Cydewyn-fl4pm
@Cydewyn-fl4pm 3 ай бұрын
It depends on how the GM runs it. Pathfinder doesn't have abilities which are "attack me!" sorts of taunts; it is dependent on the GM. The shield is also more useful in dungeons, where you can block an area (& the fighter can use attack of opportunity). I mainly run city-based (medieval cities, so very twisting and tight) and dungeon-based games, which likely biases my perspective. I also run a lot of brute enemies, which I run as attacking the biggest, toughest looking guy, usually that is.
@sjess244
@sjess244 4 ай бұрын
Technically, Mountain Stance is not required for achieving high AC with strength Monk. Drakeheart mutagen works even better (with higher versions especially), does not prevent movement, and is affordable even on lvl 1. Which allows you to build your strength monk however you wish - which is great, since flurry allows monk to do a lot of damage.
@Cydewyn-fl4pm
@Cydewyn-fl4pm 4 ай бұрын
I chose mountain stance because of the tank role. The goal is to attract enemies attention; mobility can be detrimental. Drakeheart is also a magic item, not a class feature. I was trying to list builds which were highly accessible for new players in this video.
@sjess244
@sjess244 4 ай бұрын
​@@Cydewyn-fl4pm Can agree on acessibility point, but I personally think some grappling stance for monk would fit into tank role more (like gorilla, ripple or wolf). In Pf2e martial tanking is heavily dependent on class ability to force an enemy to stick with them, which is hard to do without either athletics or AOO. I do sincerely believe mountain stance is a trap for newer players. And when enemy runs past you and crits your spellcaster... mobility will become very important.
@Cydewyn-fl4pm
@Cydewyn-fl4pm 4 ай бұрын
I was also considering that most adventure paths have a lot of narrow corridors (namely what I've heard of abomination vaults). I agree that overall it may be weaker, but it fits the vision of a "tank" that a lot of new players have better than a mobility based character (now that you mentioned it, I may make a video about less obvious choices which work well...)
@sjess244
@sjess244 4 ай бұрын
@@Cydewyn-fl4pm Yeah. I am playing abomination vaults currently as one of my campaigns and... while it does have a lot of narrow corridors, monsters tend to have some kind of gimmick which lets them deal with it. I am playing as a wizard and that freaking gug crawling towards me on the ceiling, above my stalwart line of fronliners, is a stuff of nightmares. And my other character in other campaign is a str based monk wrestler and I wish someone told me about literally one OP mutagen before I started the game heavily invested in dex instead of con or cha.
@agedgouda8809
@agedgouda8809 4 ай бұрын
Can’t you use flurry in stances like mountain stance? I thought you’d just flurry with the specific attack from the stance
@MrGiantAsian
@MrGiantAsian 3 ай бұрын
The new playtest the guardian has huge armor proficiency
@Cydewyn-fl4pm
@Cydewyn-fl4pm 3 ай бұрын
I made this video prior to the playtest; I typically only cover released content.
@playerkit
@playerkit 2 ай бұрын
What gives you the idea that Mountain Stance is cancelled when you move? The requirement is that you are touching the ground, not that you are literally immobile.
@Cydewyn-fl4pm
@Cydewyn-fl4pm 2 ай бұрын
I may have relied upon a player's interpretation and not read further. Speed is reduced by 5, not set to 5.
@Mega24fun
@Mega24fun 4 ай бұрын
That is too bad there is no aggro taking ability in game. How its played in my game tho enemies will just attack whoever is closest to them unless they have higher int score this allows for easy aggro switching and better party tactics. And when we do fight a higher int enemy or a commander enemy it changes the battle a lot which is fun.
@Cydewyn-fl4pm
@Cydewyn-fl4pm 4 ай бұрын
There can be agro-taking in RP, but it isn't in the mechanics (it is in some monster's flavor text).
@agedgouda8809
@agedgouda8809 4 ай бұрын
Can barbarians tank well in pf2e?
@Cydewyn-fl4pm
@Cydewyn-fl4pm 4 ай бұрын
Not at all. They're glass cannons and go down far easier than one would think, what with the hit points. The -1 AC while raging is a fairly large part of that. If you want a character like the 5e barbarian, a monk would likely be a good fit. A champion, fighter (with the right build) or kineticist (also with the right build) could also fit.
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