PFI COCH | COCH'S .38 SPECIAL CCW

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6 ай бұрын

Hey guys! Back this week with another CCW option, this time it’s my .38 Special. I go over a little bit of my history with the J Frame platform, drawing from the front pocket, and reload options. Feel free to let me know what you think about the content, the audio, or anything that might help us improve!
Train hard, stay ready.
Coch
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Zeta6 Sym Strip:
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Zeta6 J-Pak:
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@Ferrari_M5 3 күн бұрын

Great practical advice as always Coch.

@blackbeard308 Ай бұрын

You're advice is top notch 🇺🇸🎬📽️😎

@johnclifton218 6 ай бұрын

Thanks enjoyed. Retired can no longer afford the Smiths bought a Taurus 856 Ultra Lite 6 shot 38 Wolff spring kit and a little polishing. Not a Smith by no means. I hand load 38 semi wad cutters hits where I aim it.77 years old it should outlast me

@ek8652 5 ай бұрын

Every ex-Seal gun Chanel always seem to say you need the latest and greatest high cap semi auto with a red dot for self defense. And here we have Coch showing the most basic self defense pistol ever made. I think all those other guys can learn from this.

@ronlangford4678 6 ай бұрын

Coch is providing excellent, realistic information. I have carried concealed for 45+years as an LEO and now retired. Coch’s information is on the money.

@KD-lb9bg 5 ай бұрын

Excellent video, thanks for the detailed show and tell.

@jesusfimbres2636 5 ай бұрын

Excellent content brother!! Keep ‘em coming 👍

@raletky 6 ай бұрын

A couple of years ago, I bought a plain jane 642 on a whim, simply because a snubbie in .38spl is just classic. It doesn't get a lot of carry because I generally carry a Sig P365 when I need to carry a smaller gun, but there are times when it comes in handy. I sometimes carry it in a Galco Ankle Glove when I'm driving long distances because it's easy to get to from a seated position. I also carry it in my jacket pocket because I can fire it from within the pocket if need be.

@berryreading4809 6 ай бұрын

I like the "driving pistol" ideology... And the ankle holster seems like a great solution to the problems it presents for location/retention/security of the firearm... For semi autos some type of large neodymium magnet (or preferably kydex) hard mouted in the ideal access spot for your particular vehicle is pretty awesome... I'd alwaways prefer to immediately exit the vehicle already armed and concealed or take an impact/rollover without losing my firearm or having to carefully reholster before being able to relocate in a very very bad scenario... Cheaper priced but still reliable semi autos are perfect for this, but buy a simple cable style keyed lockbox if you don't have a lockable console or glove box for whenever you leave your vehicle out of sight, atleast that may slow down most opportunistic felons from accessing a pistol... Im sure the amount of pistols stolen from cars every year is absurd, especially in Texas and the Southeast 🤦‍♂️(I've also made some mounts that just use the clip on a kydex holster so a locked vehicle gun could live in that vehicle locked, then positioned for driving, then used for carrying if you had to use the vehicle with a pocket carry option that day and then plans change... But an ankle holster solves alot of problems for someone with limited weapon/vehicle choices or in an area where car smash and grabs with criminals carrying more tools is common... Even if it's a full size light bearing size ankle holster 🤣 Atleast it's attached to you at all times, is accessible during a collision or quick exit, and just requires a low profile holster swap and stowing the ankle holster to continue your day without the need to worry about arming criminals... 👍

@jlinka79 6 ай бұрын

Yeah the p365 coming out in 2018 has ended my desire to ever need/want a revolver.

@adamr9720 6 ай бұрын

I almost always carry my P365 but I have a Smith 638 with a crimson trace grip. I live in Orlando and it’s hot n sweaty so when I have my swooshy shorts on and I’m taking the dog for a quick walk around the lake, it’s perfect to put in my pocket without the weight pulling my shorts down. Same for riding my bicycle, it’s easier to carry, or at least I find it so.

@JFP1951 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Coch…..happy to see I’m not the only one that enjoys 642 carry. It’s definitely my go to for easy carry.

@DanTheWolfman 5 ай бұрын

@PFI Coch you put two LOADED J-pak or K-pak together for easier fit in a pocket. Get an Aholster or Mika's for your J-frames

@mng1962 2 ай бұрын

I am another 642 fan with Z 6 reloads

@DM-ps5cj 6 ай бұрын

So glad you’ve started your own channel, good for you! I love Tactical Hive but this is a great addition in terms of content and something different. I always find your presenting style so relaxed and relatable, your videos are a pleasure to watch and so informative without overloading us with unnecessary info. Great job Coach. Keep them coming!

@cameronrico6768 6 ай бұрын

Glad to see you started your own channel 👍

@cole4537 6 ай бұрын

High quality video with a lot of good commentary… subscribed! As a 26 year old “old soul” myself, I carry a 38. as-well from time to time. Looking forward to more informative advice and info! Great video!

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard!

@HALO-2304 6 ай бұрын

I'd only use the extra rounds in the grip as a tertiary load. Primary in the gun, secondary in a speedloader or strip and if those are all gone, last ditch, the ones in the grip. Fumbling with loose rounds in a high stress encounter is asking for trouble, IMO.

@ricjona1069 5 ай бұрын

Consider carrying 2 or 3 revolvers. I carry hip and cross draw. The cross draw I can draw with right or left hand. Add an ankle if high threat. New York reload plus 2 speed strips. Thanks for the revolver videos.

@tobylopez445 6 ай бұрын

I own the safari land speed loaders and you do not have to twist the knob to release the cartridges, it has a plunger tip that makes contact with your cylinder lock and it pushes up on the plunger and you get an automatic release of your cartridges as you push down on the speed loader. They are quick and effective.

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

That one was given to me by a friend, it must be defective, I don’t normally carry one, but I wanted to present the option , I’ll issue a correction in my next video, thanks for the catch.

@Revolver_Fan_93 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for another revolver video, one thing that's good to know is which way your revolver cylinder rotates so if you need to close the cylinder mid-reload you get a bang and not a click

@clayjones9907 6 ай бұрын

My Skandi weighs 13 OZ,and quite controllable.that and Bianchi Speed Strip ankle holster,ine in Belley Band for Deep Deep Concealment.

@flyontop 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video. Excellent! Hard to find realistic day to day info on revolvers.

@KCBluesJams 6 ай бұрын

S&W 638, Glock 43x and Glock G27 👍😉

@gud2go50 6 ай бұрын

I also like my J frame because it is a lot easier to carry than my semi-autos. Thanks for sharing how you carry!😊

@frankhinkle5772 6 ай бұрын

I think that of all carry methods that pocket carry is the easiest to adapt to. I've been practicing having my hand in my pocket since I was a little kid! After carrying for 30+ years I changed my routines after retirement and began pocket carrying when I walk for exercise and it was extremely easy to adapt to. If your pistol has an exposed hammer, practice covering the hammer with your thumb as you draw to prevent snagging on the pocket material. Good video.

@Awholeopinion 6 ай бұрын

If you push the safariland holder down it automatically releases the cartridges you don’t have to twist it unlike the hks speed loaders which you do need to twist

@somethingsmith3242 6 ай бұрын

Exactly. I was surprised by his explanation on how it supposedly works. It’s almost like he’s never really used one.

@josephpepecastillo717 5 ай бұрын

It’s the whole point of the safariland design and what makes it preferable to the HKS. Push and drop. I am puzzled by the explanation offered in the video. If you had to twist the tiny button on the safariland you’d be 3 hours trying to find it.😅

@user-gi9vc7rp4m 6 ай бұрын

I wanted to thank you sir for bringing this great content to us. I also watch Tactical Hyve but really appreciate your approach. You're in depth knowledge and expertise is unparalleled. Your advice is practical and applicable to the everyday carry folks who aren't into the "tacti-cool" techniques du jour. Guy's like myself who just do a couple classes a year and visit the range monthly. There's a boat load of BS out there and it's reassuring that your content is exceptionally legit. Truly appreciate it Coch! Regards - Your average concealed carry Joe.

@toooffensive4185 6 ай бұрын

Great content sir. Much respect.

@corvetteguy1980 28 күн бұрын

I usually carry a 6906 and 637.

@mcbkatn 6 ай бұрын

Coch! Loving all the revolver content! I pocket carried a 442 both privately and professionally. It’s my rule 1 gun. You should come out and teach a block at the Pat Roger’s Memorial Revolver Round Up at Gunsite this year! Always good to have new and experienced instructors!

@skipmaloney2126 6 ай бұрын

I regularly carry 5 shot revolvers. Because i shoot them in BUG matches to stay tuned up, I've learned to carry full 6 round speed strips. The round that fell on the ground during a reload isn't helpful. I also carry the moon clips for my PC642 in my pocket.

@colindegrow1475 6 ай бұрын

Great video, Coch! Very interesting commentary on accessories. 👍

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@grapenut9 5 ай бұрын

Alabama Holster.

@tomkuhl4770 6 ай бұрын

You are a pleasure to listen to, very fine. Talkin revolvers don't hurt none, either 😉

@Stingray2017 6 ай бұрын

Love a revolver, the Kimber K6XS six shot 38 special +p lite weight and it is a shooter!!

@cleondubois1270 6 ай бұрын

Good advice from a professional & well presented.

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@mkshffr4936 6 ай бұрын

38 is just special. That said the 32 is a nice intermediate.

@mattlittell5876 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Coch! Love the old school revolver content

@tobylopez445 6 ай бұрын

Very good video and excellent content, thanks 🙏🏻 and blessings to you and your family. PS a person should carry a caliber that they can handle its recoil.😊

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

Well said

@jimbo3214 6 ай бұрын

Great tip on the style of pocket when pocket carry.

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@joecarlson5418 6 ай бұрын

Another great video

@pisom4314 6 ай бұрын

great video!! thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us!!!

@kylewood8327 6 ай бұрын

Love these two pistol setups! I really like the grip that holds four rounds, I wouldn’t use it as my main reload (still prefer speed strip or speed loader) but that’s a very cool idea. Great video 👍🏻 Your outtakes at the end of video was a hoot!

@comeoncents3288 6 ай бұрын

Zeta6 is what I use. 442S&W

@zoltannagy2920 6 ай бұрын

Always awesome content Coch. Nice to see way above average revolver skills being offered to us "normal" folks 🙏

@luciusmirkwood1634 6 ай бұрын

I’ve set up speed strips on a breakaway lanyard to wear around my neck.

@timg7627 6 ай бұрын

Good video. Even in a market dominated by semi autos the revolver is relevant and a still has a place for many in daily use. There’s a lot to be said about the practicality of a 22lr, 22mag or 38spl in a snub.

@chaserdman7886 6 ай бұрын

Love your channel. Thanks for the informative content!

@geraldshrewsbury3121 6 ай бұрын

your Safariland comp 1 speed loader does not require a twist of the knob to release the ammo into the cylinder. Just press the loader into the cylinder and they will pop in place.

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

Yeah, I think mine’s broken. They don’t pop free no matter how hard I press.

@blueconverse8265 6 ай бұрын

Awesome information 👏 keep up the great work 😂

@frankbutta9344 6 ай бұрын

I carry either a 642 or even a 2.5” S&W 686 in my dress slacks pocket. Jacket pockets are great! 👍👍👍👍

@MyRanger12 6 ай бұрын

One of the J frames I carry with hook grip is S&W model 940, Centennial in 9mm. I love my J frames. Keep up the work.

@yankungfu 2 ай бұрын

Coch, you don't need to twist for Safariland speedloader. Just push down on the edge of the speedloader and the cartridges should fall off. The one you have to twist id the HK speedloader with the silver knob. Just got the S&W bodyguard 38 special, with hogue tamer grips. It's the oddest J-frame ever, has a center button cylinder release, polymer frame, & the cylinder turns clockwise. I chose not to get the laser for concealment. This thing looks right, feels right, & fits right. Got the Galco pocket holster, so the whole package looks tacticool. It doesn't have the ejector button on the side so it makes it easier to load the speedloader. The should make the ejector metal instead of that cheap plastic. I painted the front sight with some white nail polish. A cop friend of mine let me shoot his j-frame one time and it was like smacking your hand with a hammer every time you pulled the trigger. I put on the Hogue grips to mitigate some of the masochist pain. Going old school with the Hornady 158 gn lead semi wad cutter, & HS-6 +P load. Very light weight and easily concealable and deadly. If Colt comes back with the aluminum frame 6 shot, it would sell. You'll see one or two of these j-frames used in gun stores all the time cause so many people get rid of them after they try shooting them a couple of times and find out they hurt.

@PFICoch 2 ай бұрын

Hey Yang, kung fu, I figured out the safari land speed loader after I made the video, but I don’t really carry speed loaders because they don’t fit in your pocket as well as a speed strip. I was just showing options, because my way works for me, but may not work for everyone. Your set up and ammo choices sound spot on.

@clayjones9907 6 ай бұрын

An Old Big City Cop Friend also a Marine/ Nam,got me onto this.

@mkshffr4936 6 ай бұрын

BTW Buffalo Bore makes some nice 158gr LSWCHP loads. The standard pressure load pretty much duplicates the old FBI load and the plus P is even hotter.

@user-bd5nb5ht2p 6 ай бұрын

Thank you! Love mine! Reloads: carry 2 speed loaders in a belt pouch. Forgot the brand...allows for simple, downward press releasing the 5. Very quick and smooth. Leather holster owb concealed by my shirt. Thanks again!

@karlmadsen3179 6 ай бұрын

Glad to see your own channel on which you can control your content. Keep it going.

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@KCBluesJams 6 ай бұрын

I have a Glock G23 ,22 but with a full magazine and a spare of 180 grain it’s too heavy to carry .Out of all the 638 gets the most carry time just because it’s so comfortable 😁

@trapmouth 6 ай бұрын

Always enjoy your content over on the Tactical Hyve channel. Subscribed here now as well. Good stuff.

@ForestDwellerHillCountryGoon 6 ай бұрын

I've got a 442 with that same lasermax light. It lives in my off-hand cargo pocket in a galco pocket holster, I love the little noisy bastard.

@JohnSmith-qy3nv 6 ай бұрын

PFI Coach, Thank you very much for uploading this informative video. The biggest problem with pocket carry (with or without a holster) is drawing from the sitting position. I hope, someday, you have enough time to upload a video on this subject.

@BirdDogey1 6 ай бұрын

I love my J frames. My smith titanium weighs less than the bullets.

@dustinlerch9272 5 ай бұрын

“Back to work”

@buckshot4428 6 ай бұрын

No need to press & twist the speed loader. Put into cylinder and press. The rounds are under spring tension and will release automatically.

@davek5027 6 ай бұрын

Very good presentation, Coch. I have two of the original 640 .38 Specials, and yes they are rated for +P+. And they are indeed heavy. I bought a 642 a few years ago, and it’s a lifesaver for summer pocket carry. I really like the Zeta 6 j-frame ammo holders for spare ammo. I have carried revolvers for nearly 40 years, trained well by a large western LE agency, and have tried every carry option under the Sun….. shoulder rigs, ankle rigs, inside/outside waistband, you name it. The options you have outlined in this video are the ones I have settled on as well. They’re the best you can do within the limits of a lightweight revolver. Lots of training with the safariland speedloaders makes for surpringly fast reloads. I’ve also settled on the Hornady 110 grain critical defense, non +P. The +P loads are a bit much for these old, arthritic hands. Thanks for the video.

@jjacres129 6 ай бұрын

Nice video brother

@oldcop18 6 ай бұрын

I had to reload my issued Colt DS w/a speedloader in a 1974 gunfight w/three armed robbery suspects. It got me back in the fight in seconds. In retirement my EDC is either a 340PD or 442 Pro Series backed up by a speedstrip & speedloader in the center console of my car. Not all my jeans/trousers have pockets deep enough to conceal a J Frame so that’s when my LCP comes out of the safe. The best thing about pocket carry is you can walk along w/your hand in your pocket, on the gun, and not raise anyone’s concern about what you’re doing.

@jasonashley4579 6 ай бұрын

My grandfather would make wax bullets for his snubby so us boys could target practice in the alley behind his house in the River Quay, he was a Bill Jordan fan when it came to shooting for self defense, to this day outta all the autoloaders I own I often more than not carry a 442 Smith and Wesson with a crimson trace laser boot grip on it and a couple speed loaders.

@cossack814 6 ай бұрын

I like revolvers.

@TheDedicatedcyclist 6 ай бұрын

The advantage to front pocket carry is that you can casually have your hands in the front pockets talking, but have a hand on the gun ready to go, Wearing a loose shirt untucked helps with the concealment

@prigs750 6 ай бұрын

Enjoyed the video. Don't see much on wheel guns these days. Being an old guy, retired LEO, I have carried revolvers most of my life. Currently have a model 36, 60, and 19 (2.5") in my rotation. All are late 70s vintage. Hard to beat them

@houseofstylz 6 ай бұрын

For home defense, a green laser can work as both low power illumination and a targeting device on a revolver. The green laser reflected off the ceiling provides a decent amount of light AND preserves your night vision…and possibly your advantage since you shouldn’t need much light to navigate your own home. Btw, the red laser doesn’t do double duty as I’ve tried both (Crimson Trace).

@davish6482 6 ай бұрын

A 642 was my first carry gun, and I still carry it quite frequently. Tough to beat the simplicity and the weight, and it’s still one of my favorite feeling pieces, though it’s a bit snappy with the defensive ammo.

@markchambers2812 5 ай бұрын

Ino mag plastic & speed strip get hard after a while . Harder to use

@charliepearson156 6 ай бұрын

Love the idea of having the 4 rounds in the grip! What’s the grip called again????

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

Ares Redi-load by FightLite

@dcord-xs2ws 6 ай бұрын

Thar Safariland speedloader just requires a push down to load,,,,,, no twist!

@austinkroe 6 ай бұрын

My fist thought too!!

@JamesD-go8oz 6 ай бұрын

That’s how mine work.

@matttheknife8293 6 ай бұрын

Del Fatti Leather makes pocket moon carriers that work fantastically well. They prevent the moon clips from bending, and push off cleanly. I’ve been using them for years. And thank you. I’ve been wondering if a grip adapter would work with those grips.

@sombra6153 6 ай бұрын

I carried a 640 no-dash in .38 Special for several years as a BUG or for UC. You’re right that it’s heavy. I’ve hated to go the airweight route because light weight, lousy sights, and higher cost ammo/limited selection isn’t appealing. I’m leaning toward one of the .22 LR or Mag versions from S&W, Ruger, even Charter.

@adamethridge7824 6 ай бұрын

I want a snubbie I can’t decide on a colt night cobra or snubbie S&W

@kbm-zw5jd 6 ай бұрын

Hanging something that big onto a pocket revolver defeats the whole purpose. The laser grips are a good upgrade, but that LaserMax unit is way over the top for that gun.

@LUVDOGS1954 6 ай бұрын

Yes, a Smith 442 for a quick trip or to walk the dog as I live in a low threat area. Others tell me I am underprepared, that I need a G17 with 2 spare mags. Really...52 total rounds? If the situation is that bad either 1)take a rifle, 2) take capable friends with rifles, or 3) STAY HOME! Great analysis and reasoning, thank you sir.

@user-lg1du3ih5g 6 ай бұрын

Appreciate your content. I live in a safe area and when I carry I usually carry a S&W 351 pd in 22 mag. Everyone tells me that is not a capable self defense round. I saw your video on your 22 mag set up. What is your opinion on the capabilities of the 22 mag?

@TheJHMAN1 5 ай бұрын

The pants you wear are also a key, pockets need to be deep and loose.

@granitejeepc3651 6 ай бұрын

again Hyskore makes a light for the J frames

@blantant 6 ай бұрын

Yeah, I have one. It adds a ridiculous amount of length to the grip and completely loses the concealability and pocket-carry-ability of the jframe platform. It works great though. I could see a similar design working with a coin sized battery.

@michaelpaul2469 6 ай бұрын

Coch, The method of use for the Safariland comp1 speed loader is incorrect. Unlike the SK loader, there is no need to twist anything in order to get the cartages to release from comp1 loader. There is no knob to turn, simply aligned bullets with cylinder chambers and push straight down on the loader, the cartridges will release and be seated into the cylinder. Carried these for 10 years.

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

Pretty sure that one’s defective, no matter how hard I pressed it, it didn’t release until I gave it a turn

@jasonmoore6944 6 ай бұрын

Finally a first comment

@chasehammond7359 6 ай бұрын

LCP max, stop with the moon clips for carry defense

@MidwayShooter 6 ай бұрын

Love the content Shipmate⚓️ question, with that 22mag revolver, your IA allows 22? I look forward to the next video.

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

Sorry, what’s an AI?

@MidwayShooter 6 ай бұрын

@@PFICoch issuing agency for CCW

@paulc5817 6 ай бұрын

J frame fan…. But can say my next purchase is a kimber k6xs…. Better quality and 6 rounds. Great video.

@musikilla2012 5 ай бұрын

I have a 32 long with a three and a half barrel, it is very thin and I aim well, it adapts to my English, what do you think of the long 32?

@PFICoch 5 ай бұрын

32 is a very underrated round, especially the 32 H&R magnum. You have relatively inexpensive and low recoiling practice ammo, and a potent self-defense round. All that and an extra round in your frame.

@johnthomas460 6 ай бұрын

How do you feel about the S&W 340PD?

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

I think its awesome, you can't beat the light weight, but the extra price to shave off a couple oz's is not worth it to me, seeing as if I use the gun for its intended purpose, I'm going to lose it to the legal system.

@mikepurdy3952 6 ай бұрын

What is Your 22mag. Carry Ammo...?

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

Winchester silver tip, but I want to test Federal Punch, I hear good things

@StarWarsSurvivalist 6 ай бұрын

If I was a company, I do not think that I would want Coch to buy my products. The ones he purchases from always seem to go out of business......

@adamethridge7824 6 ай бұрын

You big tease all the products are out of production

@LarryeWhite61 6 ай бұрын

J-frame 442 is too light for me. Love my K-frame 64-4 38S snub-nose

@Fvckyou123 6 ай бұрын

Kind of funny to see revolver carriers "upgrading" to other revolvers, and revolver accessories.

@PFICoch 6 ай бұрын

Options more than upgrades, everyone has different requirements, I just want people to be aware of what is out there so they can make the right choice for themselves.

@transtubular 6 ай бұрын

Very interesting. Too bad no one has invented some sort of cheap cylinder swap ability so you don't have to bother with trying to get the cartridges into the cylinder under stress. Heck even an expensive cylinder swap would be worth it. I prefer my P365 for deep concealment. Twenty ounces or so loaded. Mine has twelve rounds in the mag. Plus...magazine. I know, I know....am I not worried that it will jam the first time I try to shoot it? I'm not. Sorry...flashed back to a debate I had with my brother.

@dylano7242 6 ай бұрын

Nope. The best revolver caliber is 327 mag. It hits almost as hard as 357 mag with less recoil, and more ammo capacity. And can shoot cheaper 32 cal rounds from 32 s&w long or short, 32 h&r mag or 32 acp with moon clips.