This Dr. Mario Made Inconsistency Work For Him

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Жыл бұрын

How did he do it? How did Tsumusuto take one of the game’s worst characters in Super Smash Bros Ultimate and made his way to top 3 at a major tournament? It's not often we see a low tier character make impressive runs such as this one. Let's take a look into how he took advantage of the tools given to him and and used his unique game plan to take down some incredible players!
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@micahbarrus8406 Жыл бұрын

I notice that you said the mii gunner had "intense zoning" while on screen was a mii gunner shooting grenades for a minute straight.

@pgstats Жыл бұрын

yes. 🇹🇩

@rafabastos4609 Жыл бұрын

@@pgstats lmao chad

@Dafins100 Жыл бұрын

One of the best videos you’ve ever made. The analogy was incredible and the thoughtfulness and research was amazing. Loved it.

@fidel_soto Жыл бұрын

Definitely one of the videos ever made

@KingPhilipsRideshare Жыл бұрын

@@fidel_soto definitely a video

@astra1288 Жыл бұрын

I’m not at all a basketball fan but I really appreciate people thinking about smash as a sport, not just an esport. Looking at corrolaries beyond smash can really help further our understandings of smash, especially if we look at competitions that have been around a lot longer than smash.

@miwe3719 Жыл бұрын

It's a competition like other sports, but it's not a sport

@gaschum681 Жыл бұрын

It’s still not a sport.

@joshsanchez4531 Жыл бұрын

its not a sport & esport is garbage. only a normie would say that

@gaschum681 Жыл бұрын

@@joshsanchez4531 no way this dude thought that normie is a good insult, typed it out read it reread it and sent it with full confidence you’d make him feel bad.

@deadeyed2454 Жыл бұрын

@@joshsanchez4531 1. You literally use normie as an insult. 2. You sound more like a normie than he does.

@adithahsan752 Жыл бұрын

This was a pretty ambitious topic, cool to see the videos evolving

@elemangell2981 Жыл бұрын

It's a shame to me that Dr. Mario isn't that good of a character in the games he's been in, because I absolutely love his game feel and design of being a powerful but slow bruiser, yet still retaining default Mario's more jack-of-all-trades qualities. Here's hoping this concept gets revisited in a future smash game or even a new platform fighter in general (Dan Fornace please I'm begging ya).

@Yushe_ 3 күн бұрын

It really is a shame how bad he is in ultimate but at least in melee he is considered a good-decent character. I play him a lot and I feel like he's underrated, his projectile is really good and his cape can completely ruin the recoveries of some of the top tiers and most importantly he has such a perfect weight that it makes it hard to combo him and almost impossible to chain grab him. If someone pushed him enough I do believe he could be considered a low high tier.

@PaperWill Жыл бұрын

It's always a bummer that this kind of content feels doomed to lower views than it deserves. So much fantastic commentary, zero filler.

@andysauro1500 Жыл бұрын

More Importantly, 85 characters means you have a greater chance of having the odd bracket run where you encounter more even or favorable matchups and avoid negative ones by sheer volume of the roster size and odds of matching up negatively.

@Spyder-Marth Жыл бұрын

As a good Marth main and Dr. Mario fan, this video and title brings me joy.

@Kalimier777 Жыл бұрын

Y’all I cannot overstate how much I love your videos! Seriously one of my favourite channels!

@pinaheart_ Жыл бұрын

I main Dr Mario and jigglypuff, and it makes me happy to see someone succeed with the doc, he has potential in the right hands

@gabrielmoravargas4728 Жыл бұрын

Me too! Lol

@5L1M3N1NJ4 Жыл бұрын

Seein somebody perform well wit doc just gies me hope as a doc main

@Spyder-Marth Жыл бұрын

Hey PGStats. When you get the chance, I recommend making a video focused on Akakikusu. In my opinion, he's the best Hero main in the world. A lot of people think playing Hero is only viable if you're "lucky," but Akakikusu's existence rips that view apart. He's so consistent even without getting crits or using down special. He's just good all around. He doesn't travel outside of Japan much, but that's because of the whole language barrier thing (which probably won't be an issue pretty soon. According to some rumors, Akakikusu is practicing playing Hero in English).

@dj_senf6741 Жыл бұрын

I would want him to travel so much, one of the sickest players

@yan_dj Жыл бұрын

The 🏀 metaphor about a low tier's "consistent" means losing so inconsistent risks are key made my mind explode with how suddenly and perfectly it made me understand the concept

@AshenDemon Жыл бұрын

12:50 Such skillful edge guarding. How do I get this good.

@greedo194 Жыл бұрын

Play krool, backthrow then press nair

@AshenDemon Жыл бұрын

@@greedo194 After gaining this knowledge I went on to become the best smash player in my region and now have become so good that I will go on to beat players like Mkleo, Sparg0, Riddles and many more

@eagletime92 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Not sure how many people in the venn diagram of smash and basketball fan this resonated with, but just know I was one of them.

@rixrobin Жыл бұрын

Didn’t learn much about smash but learned a ton about basketball. Great video!

@mamotalemankoe3775 Жыл бұрын

Very underrated channel. This was a very well researched, well written nicely paced video full of depth and detail with such a cool analogy. Keep them coming.

@DI_IDER Жыл бұрын

Finally DOC getting the love and respect he deserves.

@williamwest9204 Жыл бұрын

That sakurai denied him

@tree2992 Жыл бұрын

I feel like the whole point of this video was that Doc doesn't deserve respect. In fact, his only shot at winning is by disrespecting his opponent.

@NightRaven5568 Жыл бұрын

@@tree2992 No doc definitely deserves respect as an underdog like every low and bottom tier does

@jmurray1110 Жыл бұрын

I do wish he had a better recovery doctor tornado alone makes me prefer him over Mario (I kind of hate flood I know it’s a really good move but I just don’t like using it)

@NightRaven5568 Жыл бұрын

@@jmurray1110 Yea me too if he had a better recovery he still will not be good cause he has a bigger flaw but it would make him at least a bit better

@Droopyballer Жыл бұрын

As a basketball super fan, this made me so unbelievably happy

@boiledtoddler Жыл бұрын

I used to be a doc main at my local before I quit the game due to losing 80% of my matches. I’ve been searching for a reason to go back and now I know what I must do

@himbochic Жыл бұрын

The scary truth that esports and live sports are conceptually the same

@janswhatsupdoc Жыл бұрын

Tsumo and bacon are example of players who simply love paying doc since they’re fun for them. Imagine if They played vanilla Mario or fuck it literally any other better char

@Spyder-Marth Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I wish we'd see more of this at top level, but most players are so focused on winning they just main whoever is considered top 15. Sparg0 is a great example of a top player who dropped a top 3 chatting for a character he loved, and is still top 2 or 3 in the world. (And before anyone says anything, I do NOT think Cloud is top tier. If he is, he's bottom top tier).

@janswhatsupdoc Жыл бұрын

@@Spyder-Marth Sparg0 does carry cloud fr at the same time Nairo a tier hore for sleeping on cloud

@JonnyCrawford Жыл бұрын

As much as I'd want to agree with this I think this video kind of emphasizes why Tsumo's playstyle fits doc better and would play better than he ever would be with mario

@janswhatsupdoc Жыл бұрын

@@JonnyCrawford fair enough

@farafra3763 Жыл бұрын

Shuton said that Shisshou the Doc player from Kyushuu , goes even against him when they play random characters. that implies that Shisshou has great fundies and is capable of playing multiple characters at a high level in a similar fashion to Zackray or Rizeasu . but funny enough , apparently he would only play Doc in tournaments because he simply enjoys the character the most and finds it more satisfying to win with him .

@linkonedgell894 Жыл бұрын

It's so strange to me how many nerds still love basketball, for whatever reason it's the main sport that still appeal to us.

@Kiwi-ku1ui Жыл бұрын

Not a basketball fan but I enjoy when people apply teachings and philosophies to other areas or fields. Really cool analysis

@ajregalia1334 Жыл бұрын

THIS WAS INCREDIBLE!! The analogies, breakdown of strategy and mindset, comparisons and history of basketball to competitive play, statistics Loved this video, more of these please!

@jaredo_jpeg Жыл бұрын

This…. Is a piece of art wtf. Wow. One of my favorite videos ever wow

@shivdmanwii Жыл бұрын

Loved the detailed analysis on interactions per match, risk vs reward, and exploiting a specific character's weaknesses that make them where they are on the tier list as well as the comparison to our other less balanced smash game where some of th lower tiers simply do not even have good options. It's what a lot of people don't understand about tier lists and what makes a character good or bad

@tuckisbad Жыл бұрын

as a basketball fan im so glad that basketball made it into a smashbros video lol

@ThePrescriber Жыл бұрын

Doctor Mario is honestly probably the most underrated character in the entire game overall, his tools & his combo strings is very good overall, I'm very happy as a 10 year Doc main to see this stuff covered, as a Doc player I myself have gotten upsets like on BigBoss myself in a Online Tourney, so overall proud of Tsumusuto

@Spyder-Marth Жыл бұрын

He's honestly more underrated than Corrin and Marth ever was in Ultimate. When I first played Doc, I thought "THIS guy is bottom tier?" I thought he was mid tier but nobody believed me. Now that he's actually getting results, people have to actually observe him. The same thing happened with post-buff Corrin. Cosmos dropped her very quickly and people thought she sucked, but then Pink Fresh, Ly, Shadic, and MKLeo got the results with her and now people are saying she's high tier (including top players). Apparently this is happening with Marth, too. People thought he was trash because Leo dropped pre-buffed Marth. Marth got buffs, and now Stretch and Ignaize are pulling off some crazy stuff. They haven't won majors yet, but just watching them play makes it undeniable that Marth mains have a LOT of potential. They get better and better as time goes and have good records against several top players. Ignaize actually beat Skyjay a few times in bracket.

@ThePrescriber Жыл бұрын

@@Spyder-Marth For sure, To me in all honesty Tier lists don't determine how I play this character, I for one have competed & consistently gotten Top 4's as Doc, he's someone that people who come across & say "This will be free" then opposite of their expectation, I'm happy to know you as well you feel the same way for sure my friend 🦾

@Spyder-Marth Жыл бұрын

@@ThePrescriber Once again, I agree! Great minds think alike 😉.

@drcreed6320 Жыл бұрын

>online

@ThePrescriber Жыл бұрын

@@drcreed6320 Even if it's Online, the average would have a hard time, just cuz it's online it doesn't mean it has any value, it does especially for improving in general

@BadRayy Жыл бұрын

Smash, basketball analogy, Warriors, We Believe team, all in the same video?!? Bliss.

@ayar2 Жыл бұрын

I was just here for something to play in the background while working, and left with a history class for some NBA Teams.

@silvesta5027 Жыл бұрын

Maesuma 9 was insane. This was a tournament where a Doc player outplaced Gackt, Ken, Atelier, Kome AND Proto. Japan’s meta is just different

@aaronjayadriano8363 Жыл бұрын

The editing at 8:33 made that the hardest read of all time. So disgusting

@sullivanish Жыл бұрын

Doc isn't even like a bottom bottom character imo he honestly is just worse wolf which isn't bad and a projectile that combos. His recovery still shit tho but his neutral and advantage is surprisingly good

@sullivanish Жыл бұрын

Maybe not good for his advantage but he gets decent damage from each combo and they aren't intensely hard or anything

@sejinaldo Жыл бұрын

Great video, gives me shades of CoreAGaming, hope to see more of this.

@psycular Жыл бұрын

such a well made video especially with the basketball analogy and sports strategy comparisons

@ultinat Жыл бұрын

I love how l4st basically just wanted to talk about basketball in this video 🤣

@scramble7902 Жыл бұрын

Competition is awesome. So cool to compare two things like baskeball and smash bros while having it make so much sense. Great content.

@conloon1077 Жыл бұрын

Came here to learn about smash, ended up learning that I like basketball a lot

@Chokken97 Жыл бұрын

Just wanted to say the slo-mo effects were super cool.

@ericb5328 Жыл бұрын

Doc has berm my main since melee. It's a difficult life. Things like this are inspiring to see

@geekey3441 Жыл бұрын

i find it very funny that basketball was put into this. but i respect it

@taylorpagani9515 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely incredible video. The sports fan, smash fan, and nerding out over numbers fan in me was excited the entire time. ALSO WAS THAT NBA JAM TOURNAMENT EDITION MUSIC PLAYING?!

@cyclo_17 Жыл бұрын

That slow motion doc f smash is catastrophic everytime 8:52

@ExpandDong420 Жыл бұрын

I was not expecting to hear this much about basketball in a smash video but here I am

@Brumy-os4tx Жыл бұрын

Hands down best video from y’all, and your videos are always really good. Thanks for the great smash analysis, for such a small team you guys are godlike 👍🏼

@roboticus9518 Жыл бұрын

Really interesting video. Lessons to be learned here even for beyond smash.

@LelanWellz Жыл бұрын

Absolutely loved the basketball reference

@jessie1078 Жыл бұрын

Holy shit, never thought I'd see sports analytics used to talk about smash. This rules, thank you for the fantastic vid

@toniv4903 Жыл бұрын

Doc is one of the funnest and most hype characters to play and watch! Mii Gunner on the other hand feels like fighting cancer…

@gibbous00 Жыл бұрын

Oh my God the Jazz reference… I’m such a basketball guy and I’m addicted to smash. The worlds I nerd in have finally collided. This is amazing. Thank you for this

@rafaelbordoni516 Жыл бұрын

My heart broke for that DK.

@IAteMySink Жыл бұрын

8:43 This feels like a Sherlock Holmes fight

@dxcSOUL Жыл бұрын

This is literally next level analysis. This type of work brings eSports closer to being considered actual sports. Bravo 👏

@deyanmatos567 Жыл бұрын

As a basketball fan myself, I had never imagined such an amazing video, great analogy, such an interesting topic. Thanks for this great work you've been doing.

@Kowjja Жыл бұрын

Shoutout to the editor Great work to everyone

@prestonsasaki Жыл бұрын

The comparisons from Smash to professional basketball were so smart. Playing around inconsistency isn't something that a lot of people talk about, and it's such an interesting topic to think about

@lasershow2626 Жыл бұрын

I love the variety of all these videos, and they are so well done. I also really enjoy seeing about strange characters doing well and analyzing why is really interesting.

@ThirtyfourEC Жыл бұрын

Never thought I'd see Rob ballin

@sagacious03 Жыл бұрын

Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading! I love seeing how the intricate moves the players made are explained, as opposed to just being told that they're skillful!

@Spiderdridri Жыл бұрын

the amount of work put into these videos makes me literally speechless. incredible job!

@alsager777 Жыл бұрын

With all due respect but Comona's narration is on another level.

@ScoobyShooby Жыл бұрын

do more of these for melee. If you like breaking these down, you'll have more longevity doing it for melee as there's more intricacy and less of a chance of the game dying so soon.

@nile1790 Жыл бұрын

Being a basketball fan honestly I was surprised and really impressed with the analogy. I’d love to see more analogies like that if possible

@theBestInvertebrate Жыл бұрын

Man, this was a really good video, I rather liked how it took a general concept not specific to smash then applied it in a way that explains smash and in turn the concept. I would love to see more like this.

@Wadosan Жыл бұрын

This is a really interesting look at this, as a (kind of) low tier main myself in Icies, my answer for top tiers has always been to play the safest defensive option and try to win a war of attrition, hoping my opponent becomes impatient enough to make a bad move. I guess I’ll get back to the lab and see what kind of trickier setups I could get away with in those seemingly unwinnable matchups.

@amphicyon4359 Жыл бұрын

Wow, this vide was really in depth. Nice work!

@joaquinvillasenor4818 Жыл бұрын

I am a basketball fan and absolutely loved this video. Thank you!

@josezuluaga5180 Жыл бұрын

Holy shit man what an awesome video. Great analogy, explanation and story telling! Thank for the break down

@AshenDemon Жыл бұрын

0:05 I swear to god that describes Ultimate so well. Fighter Pass 2 Specifically dominates this games meta.

@quinn7427 Жыл бұрын

Basketball talk just goes in one ear out the other lol...

@macmatt72 Жыл бұрын

Very well-made thesis! Respect to the ambitious idea

@private5022 Жыл бұрын

This deserves more views

@cameronl1859 Жыл бұрын

The basketball analogy doesn't really work. The 2007 Warriors weren't using a "risky and inconsistent" strategy - they were using the ideal strategy. They were just the first team to realize that 3 pointers from accurate shooters result in a higher average point per possession than the easier 2 point shot. Nowadays, most every team attempts more 3s than the average in 2007. If it was a strategy for underdogs, you wouldn't see the top teams use it so often.

@HoshiArt Жыл бұрын

“Cleared 5 out of 15 socks”

@christianrodriguez-lm3qm Жыл бұрын

never thought i would see a basketball reference. but im glad you guys did !

@marsieg8394 Жыл бұрын

Yooo this just came out and then Franz the melee dr.mario player just placed pretty high in a tournament that included a couple big names (Fiction, S2J) Good timing smash is sick

@lobanaoz7863 Жыл бұрын

I was listening to this in the background slightly unfocused, then i heard Michael Jordan was a Steve player and had to rewind

@georgewashington3505 Жыл бұрын

Only thing I thought this whole video was… “this guy is getting a subscription and a bell”

@ohlsumr Жыл бұрын

Need a PGSports page tbh

@eugenebergeron Жыл бұрын

I just leave a comment for the algorithm, because this video is extraordinarily well done and super interesting. Incredible quality and very relevant analogy and researchs

@javierkiman8302 Жыл бұрын

Mario is a wonderful and greater fighter. Tweaks to characters, that made Mario seem weaker. Mario has the right strokes and right range.

@MattDustyParker Жыл бұрын

Good video. Appreciate the math and the analogy

@Tlanesi Жыл бұрын

You forgot Jazar's Run at Wizard's Fest.

@beszt95 Жыл бұрын

made me want to actually play ult for once, really nice vid!

@Elix_Seven Жыл бұрын

Great video! Thoroughly enjoyed it!

@michaelrichardson5483 Жыл бұрын

Damn this guy makes bacons 17th at pound look bad

@themetalgamer9864 3 ай бұрын

In other words, Dr. Mario is S-tier so long as you play with a pair of nuts?

@farafra3763 Жыл бұрын

love these vids . I appreciate the effort !

@garjopogi1044 Жыл бұрын

Woah my love for basketball and smash have come together? Dream video.

@EliTheGleason Жыл бұрын

I would pay so much money for a couple more ultimate patches Let me see doc fly

@MilfSlayr Жыл бұрын

This feels like a core-a-gaming video

@bryanmulcare9083 4 ай бұрын

If doc has really good movement speed and air speed. Easily the best character in the game.

@aaronarroyo403 Жыл бұрын

This is God like production quality

@JNKSmash Жыл бұрын

12:39 the Sans easteregg tho?! 👀

@jrs2392 Жыл бұрын

As a huge basketball fan I loved this video

@alliedvoyd Жыл бұрын

I see what you're doing... slowly trying to turn this into a basketball channel ;)

@hamburgler1811 Жыл бұрын

this video made me appreciate smash as a game, what a fantastic thing

@juanv1629 Жыл бұрын

ayo there is smash in this basketball video

@issme1286 Жыл бұрын

Best comparison of smash to a “real game” ever

@plabcentral630 Жыл бұрын

Dr Mario is the lions or the Vikings.