You do, it's just in very small bursts and only at full throttle

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My wife doesn't like it when I watch videos like this. Same thing with DIY Network - Sweat Equity or anything like that. Because I watch the show... then I'm staring at a wall in my house thinking.."hmm.. I don't think that's a load bearing wall..." while I'm holding a sledgehammer in my hands....

You know whats funny is people clearly havent seen the video where mcm create mad intake from two leaf blowers, which had definitive boost

lmao

+OrDxOrD Yeah same in my pug xsi 1.6. Good job we didn't trial the cars together, it would probably have caused a time paradox which would end civilisation as we know it. Again.

But he claims he only got an extra 65 horsey powers.... He might have used too much electrical tape and cable ties though.

OrDxOrD A parsec is a mesure of distance. The Kessel run line from star wars makes as much sense as saying.... "I really saved a lot of time, i got from Tampa to Baltimore in under 500 miles." the trip is 900 miles and a parsec is 3.086×10^13 kilometers or about 3.26 light years.

+Викентий Мадзин Yeah well I can get from Tampa to Baltimore in under 450 miles.

Actually I just setup a complete audio system in the car with an amp and sub. Since the main battery is separate of the charge pack it doesn't effect the audio system. It's been working great. If you want message me on the forums (sojhinn) and I can help with the install or ideas.

Awesome! Will do. Thank you for the info, and the video, it will be very useful 6-8 months from now when I actually get my charger hah

larrynance17 I've responded to a few people about this but I never said it didn't need a tune. In fact I strongly recommend it. The tune is loaded through an open flash tablet. I also had to add gas, use a key to turn on the car, and get a license to legally drive.

Basically a new HO fuel pump and new injectors, right?

The boost from this thing is very minor, highly unlikely that any other components need changing.

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Richard Sautell yes. the purpose of getting a tune is to turn up injectors. and adjust according to air flow/boost pressure. but i dont believe it will make a huge swing in hp. but i could be wrong. im not familiar with this style of boosting. but adding weight of extra batteries and etc kind of defeats the purpose.

I've got one on my paddle board!

+Zakaria KTM I actually bought the mishimoto intake. It works great.

NickyBotz tune helps with that. Which I recommend

andrewesquivel i dont look for the small remakes of turbos i usualy look for thin 5 hp preassure blowers that are electric and i have a feeling those would be better its a 400$ system still cheaper than a normal turbo but i never tried it. check out a Dayton high pressure blower

mr42ndstblvd of that's the case, then in theory they should work

mr42ndstblvd then I guess most people here are thinking it's the gimmicky electric fans that's mighty car mods tested. If they are actual turbos spooled with an electric motor, then it's nothing like what might car mods tested.

You don't know what you are talking about. This one is made of a centrifugal compressor. Only 4-5 psi but still enough for a significant power increase.

Turbos push heat not boost.

Maher Alatrash he won’t because I’m willing to bet the car lost power lol

If you are spending that much just go full time fi. This system is for those who want an extra 75 hp 85/tq while not breaking the bank. If you can casually drop 6k just get full time forced injection.

Plus that electric motor does not have the ability to spin the compressor wheel as fast as the exhaust gas can turn the turbine wheel

***** Very basic systems are around 4-5k if you do the install yourself not including supporting mods or tune.

hahahahahaa

Frank Gonzalez. how much is the least you take and are there schools near by

bring me the property because i installed one and at 5psi boost i picked up 62hp.

Hey Chris you are right. I apologize for my comments as I let someone get under my skin. Thank you for your comments. And if you are ever near San Diego let me know. I'll be happy to give you a ride.

+geheimschriver Because physics doesn't allow for compressed air, okay.

This might be a valid point if the electric turbo actually drew its power directly from the alternator - but that's not how it works. The turbo is powered from a separate battery bank that is trickle charged during normal driving, thus only sapping a negligible amount of power. Manufacturers don't use it because it is yet to be developed properly, and if you do some research you'll see that some manufacturers are already successfully trialling such technology. The Phantom electric supercharger is a proof of concept, really, and if you look into the results it does actually work very well for what it is. I am no physicist, but the evidence is there, and is says you are wrong. This shit works.

Again, I don't know the math behind it, I just know that the evidence says the product works.

+geheimschriver Wow. There are pro and cons to all of these chargers kits (do not add the fan blowers that are advertised on eBay). The most major flaw of the esupercharger is that it can't run constantly because the reliant on the provided battery. It is an interesting setup and worth prototyping but its not for the feeble minded, eg geheimschriver. and people who think this is a turbo replacement. Cost wise it is great but I wouldn't take this over a turbo.

Best to contact rob (the creator) for more information on that. He can me reached at the ft86forums or at www.phantomsuperchargers.com

+T “Sukyake Akido” Mathias You can try to compare kW consumed by the eaton supercharger vs an electric motor, but depending on the motor used, it is probably incomparable. One thing that needs to be mentioned is the parasitic losses from the belt and other attachments, as well as the parasitic loss at high rpm. The supercharger is designed to produce a certain flow at a certain RPM and, if a smaller pulley was used, more boost would be gained. So for electric motors, we must take into account the winding style, number of poles, wire gauge, and number of turns per stator (assuming this is a very efficient BLDC). A high voltage BLDC motor would be perfect; low amp draw, low heat, maximum efficiency. Consider the Turnigy RotoMax 150cc Size Brushless Outrunner Motor. The dimensions are 4.3" wide and 3.6" long. It would be nice to have the actual HP figures, but the HP on a 150cc gas engine could be quite high... the max RPM is probably around 8000 or so. Out of box this thing would probably have no problem turning the eaton supercharger; and with a gear drive system, it could probably make the desired boost pressure.

+Jon Tanneguy Yep. I'm pretty sure the power loss due the belt is there, but looking into some Eaton data, in theory it should should be drawing 17hp at it's maximum boost (pressure ratio reaching 1.7) and maximum speed (18000 RPM ). It's probably higher due the very small pulley and the very well bended 6pk rubber belt, besides the fact that the blower is actually running a little bit... overspeed.. around 19000 RPM, but on the graphs... look like I could got even further on the maximum revs with this 1.0 Rocam (I used to run at 7500 RPM with a bigger pulley on the blower), but I choose to take it easy to ensure that the car could run safely during a 6 hours track day. But... yeah! A 8000 RPM electric with the proper transmission ratio could make a desire boost, but the only problem still... how to make a proper recharging system to feed a high voltage pack (I suppose, I'll be running a 74~96,2V LiPo or something close to that with LiFePO4) automatically? This will require a little bit more study time with electronics here for me. Besides that... I'm not really sure if the root blower would be really beneficial to the electric blower project, since... the good deal of root compressor is the fact it have a nice early boost at lower revs that keeps growing when it reach higher revs, but the efficiency still not so good as the centrifugal compressor and with a electric motor and seems to be quite easy to have a feedback system with a manifold air pressure (MAP) sensor to kill the "turbo lag". In other words, sustain a constant pressure or programmed pressure by RPM (and even throttle position) while the the compressor speed is controlled by the feedback system attached to the MAP... something similar to what is done on a ECU with boost controller trimming the turbo speed with the waste gate. At same time, a centrifugal compressor requires very high speeds (just to give an idea... something between 150k and 230k RPM depending on the design of compressor) to actually work, which can be quite tricky if you are going to need to put a gearbox with large ratios... I wonder if there is a nice high speed electric motor, just like the ones used on the EDF (electric ducted fan) planes that got enough power and speed to make efficient direct drive setup, just like the one shown in this video. And I still wonder how much power it's needed to create fairly high boosts (when the pressure ratio is around 2) for a 1 liter engine @ 7000 RPM... it's very curious information that I never found on the turbo charts, since they use the exhaust power (and creates a bit of back pressure... still not completely free energy! hahaha ;D) to work. This is why I'm interested on more numbers and concrete results from this phantom electric blower. :D Even if I don't know exactly what kind of compressor dimensions are being used, at least I could have few numbers to begin with. And... I don't plan to spend money without being really sure of what am I doing... you know... turbos, roots blowers, batteries and high power brushless motor setups are not exactly cheap and making new parts and designing, making new parts and adaptations requires a lot of time. In short terms, it's a project that requires cash and time. I already know what happens when you try to do something unusual but known on the car... it's already very demanding, but very rewarding when you manage to do it right. hahaha ;D But... it's very nice to see more people interested in a serious concept of the electric blower. It will be pretty cool when we have properly tested and functional electric blower that can be attached to any engine without any need to make major modifications on the engine... like... pulley and belt management of the blowers or the exhaust pipe, oil ducts and even water cooling modifications of the turbos.

For electric scavenging, the best thought is to use a set of super caps for quick drain/quick charge. Sustained boost for more than 10 seconds would probably be out of the question. One thing to look at on modern cars is the alternator. The ratio is about 3:1 so when your engine is spinning at 7k rpm you have an alternator with a decent sized iron core mass spinning at around 21k rpm. To reduce the alternator to a 1:1 ratio, thinner gauge wire should be used, and a more powerful bifilar wound magnet for the exciter. Multiple thinner gauge wire could be wound up in parallel to try and increase the output. However the wires need to be isolated by diodes and can't just be soldered together (just at one end). It's said an alternator consumes a considerable amount of horsepower and I'll believe it; especially at high RPM. 150k rpm for an electric motor is definitely possible. The best operating voltage would be around 5kv to 10kv and run at radio frequency. Special wire must be used to avoid arc over. The amps would also be very low so it should be extremely efficient. The pulse circuitry would be on the low end and then to a highly efficient transformer setup. Professor Gennady Markov has a nice patent on the type of transformer needed for such a setup. I wish I had the time and money to experiment!

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cr4zyw3ld3r foot switch or procede?

@@sojhinn foot switch. It looks like going over your video my kit seems to be missing the DRS output piece. I have the 5kW model.

cr4zyw3ld3r sounds like a loose wire. Check all your connections and see if anything needs to be resoldered. Start at the foot switch and work your way back to the controller. You have a tune yes?

@@sojhinn yes Ecutek tuned*

@@sojhinn the foot switch seems to be just fine. I think that the missing DRS piece is the issue here since the turbine is not spooling to atmo without that piece. I will recheck the other connections as well.

colton hart Are you joking ?

no, my mustang GT is boosted but i want more horsepower without cranking my turbocharger over 8 psi. it goes to 38 PSI but thats unneeded...

colton hart this thing is garbage.... i suggest you chose other options

These are only for small engines and 5 PSI tops, so you are already far far outside their range.

Summit X The turbo wasnt added from factory. this is an 05 Mustang GT.with a 4.7L V8 modular 3 valve. mine made a little over 512 horsepower. and i was looking to add a little bit of other boost without cranking mine up to 36 PSI

Best way to get a hold of him is through the ft85 forums. As a heads up there's about 40 people waiting for the system. So expect a 6-8 month wait time.

Ft86 forums

sounds like they need to ramp production, lol. thanks.

The claimed horsepower is also phantom ......

+bourbonballs b i think it would work great on my push mower. cut grass like hell LOL

and do i have to email to order? and can this work on other cars? and is 1500 the correct amount?

Nexus 7 tablet with a jvc head unit behind

No

lmao

...at first read i thought you said dildo. wow, a supercharged dildo

Yo I feel bad for the car!

+James Holland Once you go the turbo route, money just doesn't seem to keep falling out of your pocket. Fix this fix that and some odd reason the shop will always have you coming back to them for stuff. This kit doesn't run all day long so I wonder if you'll end up paying less money because it'll cause less strain on your engine.

5 just 5

Open flash tablet

Jose Olvera Does your car batterly deliver 28V? ;-) Ok, if you drive a Scania Truck with a 24V system then maybe but normal cars just deliver 12V. The electric motor needs a 24V system to run.... Audi actually uses in one of their studies a 48V system to drive an electric charger.... You can leave your starter Battery where it is and just find an other place for the 24V battery pack..... Of course you have to rewire everything.....

Julian Saiz that's the same fucking thing I was thinking lmao

If the charger was fully off it would create intake restriction, so to at least keep up with engine air demand they have a vacuum tube so the electronics spool up that charger to not create drag.

Honestly a lot of people thought it was a joke at first. But there are about 50 of us running the system now, and they have been proven time and time again. Its hard to shake the skepticism but its the real deal.

***** telling someone to educate themselves when your running a 30K car off powerwheel batteries... nice one kiddo.

KoG GoK im sure the tuner along with everyone there laughed his dumb ass out of the shop

***** dont forget to use some slick 50 and some of those mpg gas pills...

***** hey bob i heard flame decals add 20+hp. I got the dyno and the forum replies to prove it lol

And the subtitles make it even better they say "breast nipple" instead of brass nipple