Something like that. Now with granular ;)

@Ankit Vital has 3 oscillators and versatile user interface, in Vital you don't have to go to the matrix tab to send the random 1 or 2 to a specific parameter, you can easily left hold and drag it into a specific parameter you want to control, the random in Vital also has a visual section where you see that the different values that are set each block. I know that Vital lacks 1 thing which is hyper / dimension effect, but that's not a big of a deal, another cool thing is you can also set the timing of your LFO to keytrack, and what that does is it makes the LFO follow the same frequency as the individual note you are playing, which is what Serum lacks.

@Ankit But Phase Plant's LFO is not like Serum and Vital's LFOs, in Phase Plant's LFO it only includes waveforms, but you can go to it's wavetable editor and draw it, it's similar LFO you have in Sylenth1, but in Serum and Vital, you have envelope LFOs which are versatile, the highest frequency you can go up to in Phase Plant's LFO as I've mentioned is I believe 50Hz, in Serum the maximum is 100Hz, but in Vital it's just seconds and milliseconds you can set, so it's not the amount of frequency, it's the duration that the LFO takes to finish it's cycle. Vital is also versatile since it has 2 main filters, you may not only need just 1 filter, but also 2 filters and that's what makes a synth interesting.

@Ankit eh, Phase plant on paper you'd think is serum on Steroids, but it's wayyyy less intuitive to actually use with a much more tedious work flow, plus you'd think that with how powerful Phase Plant is it'd be amazing, and it is, but Phase Plant ends up being a synth that I only ever seem to use for experimentation. In Serum I can make deep, wide, and crazy sounds in a fraction of the time it'd take in Phase plant, and it's way easier to make something that's actually useable or worth using in a song in Serum, plus at the end of the day, three oscillators (including the sub oscillator) is really all you really need. It's sort of like Moog's classic Modular system vs the Minimoog. The Modular synth can make pretty much any sound your heart desires, but the Minimoog can make every useable sound you'd necessarily need (ignoring it's lack of polyphony), and far more easily and quickly. There's a reason the Moog Modular synth was considered ground breaking, but the Minimoog is what actually changed the music industry.

thanks so much for watching! between the convolution and resonators there's a ton you can do for color bass

Thanks so much for watching! I wonder how difficult those are to emulate and if that’s the direction they want to go at some point

Check the phaseplant playlist:)

Secrets revealed!

@@Alckemy You say phase plant is the only synth I need?

@@ilo0076 yep.

@@Alckemy For all genres of electronic music. From electro pop to future house, bass, dnb, house, trance and ending with techno?

@@ilo0076 yep. Anything electronic

All good! Happy you’re happy with the plug-in

Thank you for watching! I’m just an enthusiast

The pp enthusiast!

I’ll come up with something cool:)

Makes me wonder what they’re going to do next ;)

It’s always been insane. Check out my tutorials and you’ll definitely see!

yes Yes YES

Thank you so much! I hope you love it

Totally worth it!

Curve is kind of unique with the framing and I can’t wait to cover more on it. I hope you love it though, as I know the investment isn’t the cheapest

@@Alckemy definitely, and I can't wait to see your video covering it as I'll be here 😋 I'm currently on a subscription basis as it's the cheapest option at this point in time which gives me access to everything 🤷‍♂️ and thank you, I'm definitely loving it so far, especially because of the sheer amount of sound design options it has. For now, I'm experimenting, and learning, and will use it in conjunction with other plugins for various sound design elements and techniques, and then we'll take over the world, yeah? 😉😂

The drums I’m making in phaseplant right now are pretty damn nuts, especially with the envelope follower. I will try it though!

it's slightly darker with purple fm dials. It's in the Kilohearts discord

Yep. I have plenty of videos covering that matter I invite you to dive into. It’s low key cheating

@@Alckemy How so? haha

@@KavasPVP modulators and infinite effects, ease of frequency splitting and insane amounts of fm options

Imagine😩

Just being able to add a Pro-Q 3 in there for its dynamic bands would go a very long way. But then you got shit like Rift and Infiltrator and stuff to that effect that would make external VSTs in the kHs ecosystem absolutely INSANE.

@@stayover7315 dunno if you knew this or not but you can make slice eq dynamic with the audio follower :)

@@Alckemy Brilliant, it would have taken me ages to put two and two together. Thanks!

Not if you use Linux. Not supported.

Bitwig and kilohearts for me complement each other immensely Kilohearts sound design workflow is insanely fast because of how quickly you can add generators, modulation, and effects. The routing is super fast and the update actually draws a line where you map things. Phaseplant also has unique modulators like mseg and lfo tables. What I also like is that snap heap and multi pass can share patches outside of bitwig racks so you can use them in other programs. Bitwig has its own unique features too, they just go so well together

@@delhibill Not out of the box, but kHz-Plugins do well with Wine and Yabridge (as do a lot of Windowsplugins under Linux). Phase Plant ist running here ATM.

It’s pretty sweet:)

Thank you so much for watching! Whenever I’m interested in a new product I learn the tool before I even download a demo. In that light I have a walkthrough of how to get started on phaseplant if you’re interested. However, no pressure, it’s just a resource

@@Alckemy hi mate, I'm interested in the phase plant walk through, where can I access it please?

@@toonzmindset2011 it’s on my channel :)

Thank you!

Phase plant will give you as much as you put into it. It can go way beyond vital in a lot of ways but it really depends on your needs

You can't beat powerful and FREE

It’s in one of my preset packs but I’m afraid I can’t remember which one!

@@Alckemy Ok ! Thank you for taking the time to answer. :)

Mission Control? Like the Apple nav feature?

@@Alckemy yeah the windows thing that shows you all windows or just application windows or the desktop.. It's soo good! I don't see many use it.

I haven’t checked it out but my friends on discord have given me the run down. I don’t think avenger has a demo unfortunately

I’m going to do a comparison of the 2 at some point:)

@@Alckemy got falcon and considering phaseplant 2. Still undecided what phaseplant can offer that falcon or omnisphere cant already give me.

@@garyhendrie4001 I've got some content planned soon as I get this question a lot

@@garyhendrie4001 You don't need PP if you have those two. Your time would be better spent learning the deep nuances of Falcon. There is nothing like it.

In theory yes for the most part. It’s not as efficient of a workflow but the grid has its own unique features too

If you look at my preset demos you can hear a lot of what it’s capable of, I’m waiting on the factory preset walkthrough because I have factory content releasing soon to the public but it isn’t ready

Yes, a free factory content one

@@Alckemy Awesome! Looking forward to that!

There’s no turning back

Granular has been confirmed in their cookout announcement. Idk about a waveshaper but I’d be surprised if they wouldn’t be willing

@@Alckemy I just bought it yesterday. I would love to see granular support 😍

Phaseplant is generally easier to use... although routing takes some getting used to. Then of course, price. Pretty big difference there.

In theory, falcon should be top dawg, However, it’s workflow is realllllly slow, it’s fm capabilities are very limited and the modulators have a really annoying (for me) behavior. Everything you said is %100 true but because of the tedium of flipping through tabs, groups, branches, etc I can’t stand using it outside of its granular engines and playing with the Euclidean stuff. I’ve had it since 2018 thinking it was going to be insane but again, the workflow holds it back significantly. I would compare falcon to kontakt if anything but maybe I’ll do a comparison video between the 2

I’d recommend checking out my really old frequency splitting neuro bass v in falcon vid I did a while back to see what I mean

@Trent Kozelek well said!

@Trent Kozelek That’s fair but Falcon is the ultimate sound design synth. If you are getting it, out you aren’t looking to make some quick patch to be musically inspired. To be honest I’d use neither of these for this purpose. Prefer Diva/Serum for that. Don’t get me wrong this looks awesome and will be picking it up. Edit: Oh crap it’s only 100 bucks now that changes everything.

Wait, what’s missing?

@@Alckemy lets say you want to modulate a phaser or a filter or maybe a bunch of multipass knobs with an oscillator, instead of an LFO and create your own weird new modulation thingy, thats hackable in serum and doable in vital's LFOs but not the oscillators being the modulation source, can be insanely powerful

Phase Plant supports audio rate modulation.

@@bonchbonch it’s a little different having an envelope follower vs what Angelites talking about but there is a little bit of both to some extent

@@Alckemy I see. Thanks for the clarification!

It can go as deep as your cpu can handle:) i have a crash course on Pp I recently released!

Phaseplant + ana2 for his carateristic sound about me you can have a powerfull platform.

i hated falcon, pp is very fast and very intuitive. its 99e rn u should get it (miss some fx but is fine).

bitwig benefit: if u map 8 device macros pp autoupdates them with the presets info!

Resist the gear lust!

@@Alckemy Penetrate Phase Plant Hard & Fast 💨 🤣🤣

@@KYNG000 you’re too far gone…

@@Alckemy Gone ,,,!!!! But , Not Forgotten 🤣🤣

@@KYNG000 🤣🤣

I't pretty easy to print on the daw and drag bag into a Sampler but it isn't as easy as serums direct resample for sure. Thank you for watching!

@@Alckemy Thank you! for that pro tip!!!

Oof!

nope. there’s a CC modulator in 2.0 ^^

@@Alckemy Awesome! thanks so much! : )

Hope you love it!

It’s almost designed for this kind of approach

It’s weird. If you’re scrolling modulators you actually scroll up or down to move horizontal.

@@Alckemy it also works fine with modulators but not with FX

@@noahrathje8976 I think the groups were meant to mitigate that but I definitely understand what you’re saying

I have bass and drum courses for arcanum members but I also have a huge catalog of public tutorials on the channel:)

My suggestion would be to explore more effects once you have your oscillator bases covered. Effects will always take you further!

@@Alckemy actually trying to get rid of fx too. i will prolly buy hy-filter 4 tho, its kinda like byome but i like it better. i also like it better than infiltrator although that ones a bit different.

@@LaymensLament same ones make sense but diverse processing tools are where it’s at for sound design

How foolish of me

I’ve got a comparison video coming soon explaining exactly this

on paper falcon is great. in practicality it's a nightmare to program

It’s pretty efficient but because you can stack unlimited effects I’m sure you can push it to make your computer fry your eggs. That being said it will be fine for a large majority of typical sound design

I love bitwig! Need my pp though

pigments is great! It was more of bringing up some points people made from before.

@@Alckemy understood, I might have to get phase plant tho!

@@l.romain6447 Demo is the way to go, or ty out the subscription for very low cost and see if it works for you :)

It can be as light or heavy as you’re cpu can handle. There’s no limit to fx And up to like 32 oscillators that can each have I it’s own unison. So it depends! My patches tend to be huge

@@Alckemy Appreciate that! I guess I assumed phase plant was designed to be lighter on CPU than it actually is. To be fair the processing is really heavy lifting on some presets. My computer is abit of a beast but struggles with PP. I think I need to build patches smarter maybe

@@BenCaesar Just depends on what you’re doing but yeah it can go as far as your cpu can handle. I make a lot of things that are random so If I run out of cpu I just bounce what I have

Hi, where to get these presets?

@@partlysimpson5154 just search for free presets and you will have so many.. lol including paid presets I have 6gb for vital.. LOL

I recently demoed pigments if you’re looking for a more informed decision but I still choose phaseplant the reasons described in the video

You won’t regret it

It’s like a daw that’s compatible with every other daw.

I love that song!

Conjuring demons, likely.

I like that phaseplant has everything in one tab. Vital has 4 tabs to sort through

You can make a custom filter in slice eq and see, or just add a slice eq right after the regular comb

Yeah and less resource consumption

Except, you can't give your Bitwig project to Reaper, FL or any other DAW user.

There are some things each piece of software can’t do or does way better. They really complement each other well

@@Alckemy Well, not really. BitWig can do everything Phase Plant can do...plus about a million more things, its a DAW. Its like buying a wheel and saying its similar to a car. Whats one thing PP can do "way better"?

@@CybreSmee I have video coverage extensively on both. I could sit here and type it out or you can explore for yourself and make a judgment call:)

all are possible :) thank you for the content ideas!

100% transparency playing the KZfaq game. Although, I do think that phase plants update is another marvel for the sound design world. It's not the end all be all but for about 90% of my needs it goes above and beyond

🥊🥊 put ‘em up!!

@@Alckemy Round 1 FIGHT!

Yeah that’s my bad. Glossed over since bitwig makes everything mpe compatible

I don’t know what kind of music you make but have you seen my banks? Phase plant can get nuts

@@Alckemy i (try to) make very low and dark minimalistic psytrance, some drum and bass and extremely agressive dubstep. some big-hall techno and minimal bleep-techno etc etc. i think there´s something wrong with me because since the early 90's, i´ve found 99% of patches unusable, and i´ve actually LIKED just a couple of the tens of thousands i´ve tried. that´s why i make my own pathces, but i´d LIKE to not have to do that. about the only bank i´ve ever liked was the harmonic rush trance + psy by monster sounds. very generic but really good sounding all of them. i know the problem extremely probably is just my personal lack of creativity and talent, but what i personally look for in a bank i pay money for is like in the ballpark of all the lead instruments hit songs - as an example - the lead from voodoo people etc. i would pay 1000 bucks for a sound bank with instruments that are actual hit-makers just as is, instead of the general mumbo jumbo 99,99999% of patches are. i know i´m asking too much. i know i´m an extremist. i will have a good look at your patches though. hope i´ve not said anything to upset you. i´ve just made music since the early 1990s and to me, almost literally EVERY patch has always sounded too generic and thus has not managed to spark my enthusiasm. i look for interesting sounds and that is why i try to study and use FM, granular etc. granular is what brought me to phase plant. even fm8 has these very bright and crisp high-ends and growly lows (skrillex used fm8 quite a lot afaik) though the best results to me in fm comes from reaktor. i make my own synths there from absolute scratch. another way to get non-boring material is just by mangling samples. just go at sounds with a blender. i make my own bass and kick instruments in reaktor too. sorry for the rant. my sleeping meds seem to have kicked in. i will have a look at your soundbanks! thanks! i think all i wanted to say was "i don´t find normal saw-wave through a adsr-filter interesting" ... maybe also ... "i want interesting leads by just playing one note"

@@Alckemy it just always blows my mind how most ug-sounding music "hits" are made with just normal presets with just minor fx or something. like i bet at least 75% of the sound i´m looking for are the presets i have access too but i just lack the inspiration and talent to make them work. there just is so much perfection there i guess also. mr oizo, daft punk, growling mad scientists, skrillex, prodigy ..... if i´m looking for the most weird, complex etc themes/leads ... the instruments that just gets your song going. that hooks the audience. i was going to say that you just can´t find them ready made but then i remembered how this comment started. i guess i just lack creativity.

@@moonliteX haha. You’ll be in for a treat.

@@Alckemy i bet i will! ;)

Sounds are fun hey? lol. If you know one you know a lot about them all

The workflow can’t keep up I’m afraid. Limited fx and oscillator engines with a lack of modulators hold it back. It’s cool though!

@@Alckemy Lol you telling me 8 oscillators aren't enough? 8 envelopes which you can fully customize and act the same as lfo's if you loop them. 34 effect types that you can assign to any Osc. Almost any parameter can be modulated, you can draw your own tables, load up wavetables, samples, treat samples like wavetables, multiloops it even has a granular synthesis. I don't want to write an SA but it really has everything bud. It looks intimidating but it's workflow is actually very intuitive.

@@paradoxic1888 we can talk about pros and cons without getting into it, the workflow just isn’t as fast as pp. 34 effects are great! How many can you have at once? Are there modulators other than lfos and envelopes? 8 envelopes are nice but look on my channel and you’ll notice I use a ton of modulation and with good purpose:)

@@Alckemy Of course Phase Plant has it's pros, but my argument is that for a synth that can do it all, VPS Avenger is seriously underrated. If by modulate you mean FM, AM, Sync then yes. You can FM 1 osc with another osc. I mean I just learned you can modulate the drum track with the LFO which modulates the filter or whatever you assign it to which just blew my mind. VPS Avenger has send tracks, master tracks and a mixer, so yes you can use all effects at once. Honestly I don't know what you did with your modulations, but I'm tired of these synths that get all the marketing behind blowing up, when an incredible synth like VPS Avenger has existed for many years. Be honest, you haven't even tried it. When I was deciding on the ultimate synth, I was looking into Phase Plant, but I did thorough research, and best bang for my buck was VPS Avenger and I don't regret. The only thing I do regret as that so few people know about this synth.

@@paradoxic1888 modulation are things like multi stage envelopes and randomizers, lfos, etc. to which phase plant has unlimited amounts. It also has unlimited sends and master racks because you can stack as many multi pass and snap heaps as you want. I make all my drums in phase plant too. I don’t advertise anything on this channel I don’t use and am not sponsored by anyone, phase plant is the majority of what I cover on this channel just because of how much you can do with it. No marketing bs :) I think avenger is cool! It’s just not on the sheer level the kilohearts ecosystem has to offer

Valid points, though this isn’t necessarily aimed towards beginners but rather a quick summary of what’s new and how it sounds. I have beginner tutorials and complete breakdowns of snap ins on my channel so there’s something for everyone :)

@@Alckemy Thanks for pointing that out, as you may of guessed I was unaware of your other videos.

Well, In the music genre I make as my name describes (neuro) we use these basses for dnb, halftime, dubstep, etc.

lmao I don't like those fart sounds, nor the music that one would typically find them in, but I know I'm into some stuff others don't like. To each their own. I'm still here learning a thing or two. That said I'm not excited about this soft synth at all. Good channel overall btw.

@@EnervatedSociety I mean Noisia, koan sound, Audeka type sounds are what my channel was founded on 😅 don’t know what to tell you

@@EnervatedSociety the channel name literally has neuro in the title... did you not expect heavily modulated basses???

Butt, fart sounds are funny! Right? Who doesn't like to laugh.

Likely your listening environment

This is more for sound designers, not so much preset lovers. It can be made thick through adding oscillators. Or really it can be made anything with enough synthesis.

Hmmm, o think it sounds basicly not very pleasent at all. I like a warmer sound like the u-he products or spire. Phase plant sounds harsh and thin but loud in the same time. A little bit like serum but not the same clarity. Phase plant sounds not very sweet by the lack of other words.

@@jensschettler1732 blame the sound designer and not the synth^^

I dondt blame anybody. Its just my opinion. Problem? Every synth has its base tone. And thats good. It is just not everybodys cup of tea. Thats cause the tread starter claim phaseplant is the best synth around... i doubt there is a "best" synth...

I abhor auto tune. But alas, these looks are deceiving as this, my friend, is just as easy, if not easier than vital or serum

You couldn’t be more off the mark. Would advise you to research and demo the product. I have a bazillion tutorials on it and it’s non contested as far as my claims go. But hey, vital is free

@@Alckemy I prefer to focus on mastering my own tools rather than buying new ones. I own Synthmaster, Dune 3, Vital (free) and these 3 alone are enough to fulfill my musical needs for the rest of my life. Dune especially sounds better than any other software synth I've heard. With a combination of compressor and reverb, I can make them sound extremely fat and deep. I also own Rift, that I can add to any of these synths for more crazy sounds. I bought it after watching a video by DATABROTH that combines it with Dune 3. I'm really satisfied with all these tools and I feel I need to make music rather than buy more gear.

@@lolilollolilol7773 that’s fine. Data broth would tell you the same thing about phase plant though. Would appreciate if you didn’t call me a shill just because you watched a video on something you didn’t need. I own my opinion and my integrity made this channel what it is today

Your opinion is fine although it strongly hints at you not watching the video and/or being educated on the matter. Enjoy your burger

I have been playing synthesiser since 1980. No doubt around the time you were blowing on a penny whistle.

@@john_atco none of that experience applies to knowing phase plant I’m afraid. Would invite you to learn about it since It’s cheaper than almost any hardware device

@@Alckemy HA Ha. £100 is not cheap!

@@john_atco name a hardware synth as good as phase plant for 100 euros