PHILOSOPHY - The Stoics

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9 жыл бұрын

How the Stoics can help us tackle anxiety, fury and loss of perspective - and realise that very little is needed to make a happy life.
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“‘Stoicism’ was a philosophy that flourished for some 400 years in Ancient Greece and Rome, gaining widespread support among all classes of society. It had one overwhelming and highly practical ambition: to teach people how to be calm and brave in the face of overwhelming anxiety and pain…”
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@patmark3059
@patmark3059 5 жыл бұрын
He who fears to suffer, suffers from fear.
@TribuneAquila
@TribuneAquila 4 жыл бұрын
He who suffers from heat, dreams of a tentacled sea monster
@TribuneAquila
@TribuneAquila 4 жыл бұрын
I wrote the above comment a month ago, and now I have no idea what the fuck I was talking about
@BrothersandCoFilms
@BrothersandCoFilms 4 жыл бұрын
Chad C were you high?😂
@plantymcplantface7182
@plantymcplantface7182 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrothersandCoFilms Perhaps he had too much hentai?
@OnThePath777
@OnThePath777 3 жыл бұрын
@@TribuneAquila LOL That's hilarious 😆
@MrDeathCell
@MrDeathCell 5 жыл бұрын
Life: i'm gonna beat you up Stoic: not if i beat myself up first.
@monstar5746
@monstar5746 5 жыл бұрын
More like... Life: I'm gonna beat you up Stoic: Why would I care if I can't do anything about it :)
@salvo6789
@salvo6789 5 жыл бұрын
Monstar I don’t think that is what being stoic is about. It’s rather what vinh said - if you beat yourself up first cause you expect the unexpected it will not hurt anymore. You talk more about accepting situation as they are which is difficult if you didn’t anticipate this one situation before it occurred
@monstar5746
@monstar5746 5 жыл бұрын
@@salvo6789 I don't see how acknowledging the fact that you could die or suffer tomorrow makes you beat yourself up. You just do your best in the present, and don't worry about what you can't do anything about. That's what I understood and what has helped me.
@salvo6789
@salvo6789 5 жыл бұрын
Monstar Beat yourself up in a colloquial sense .. When you are confronted with a abstract or oncrete situation that life throws in front of your feet and you worry about a negative outcome it can help to anticipate the worst scenario. And then you might find out that even the worst scenario - if you play it through - you would survive and even see the good in it. I think the most anxiety comes from the fact that we repress a lot and don’t confront ourself with our fears. Of course there are other thinking patterns that might help someone but here it’s about stoism
@monstar5746
@monstar5746 5 жыл бұрын
@@salvo6789 "If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment." If something bad happens to you that you can't do anything about, then by acknowledging that you indeed can't do anything about it and instead keep focusing on what you can do to make your life better, then you should be able to feel much less negatively. I think beating yourself up is probably important aswell, but that you can also reach good results by ignoring the things that are external to you.
@jt2506productions
@jt2506productions 7 жыл бұрын
Stoicism in a way gives me optimism. In my opinion the key isn't too focus on the idea that life is going to turn out bad, but that bad things will happen and you can get through them. No one can take away your inner freedom, intelligence, and virtues. I don't view Stoicism as cynical, but as optimistic. It empowers you to strive for even more greatness because it frees you from the fears of failure.
@bryangauthier1135
@bryangauthier1135 7 жыл бұрын
jt2506productions Definetely the way i see it too ! Knowing that bad things will happen while also striving to have a better life can be fulfilling
@twigletcheese
@twigletcheese 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The stoics seem to say 'expect the bad, but react well'. People who 'expect the good' tend to 'react bad'. If you are someone who expects - i.e. has a very optimistic worldview - expects everything to be good, then by nature you will find the stoic message negative, apathetic, or even nihilistic. It is far from this.
@chiperog9395
@chiperog9395 5 жыл бұрын
I would not call stoicism either optimistic or cynical, in my humble opinion it is one of the truest neutral there is.
@santoroy2120
@santoroy2120 4 жыл бұрын
jt2506productions bro I’ve always believed this but thank you for putting into words
@gillespaling7039
@gillespaling7039 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, stoicism isn’t optimistic, it’s rooted in pessimism.
@Reality-Distortion
@Reality-Distortion 2 жыл бұрын
"And when you really, really can't take it - suicide is always an option." I couldn't not laugh with how optimistically it was said.
@MegaAdytya
@MegaAdytya 9 жыл бұрын
"You need only turn over your wrists" seneca is savage af
@kbgonzo9202
@kbgonzo9202 4 жыл бұрын
Was he saying that its all in your hands or the answering slicing your wrists?
@LupusDei777
@LupusDei777 4 жыл бұрын
@@kbgonzo9202 both
@VeryAverageGirl
@VeryAverageGirl 4 жыл бұрын
Adytya Reuben Halder , yeah that comment scared me.. I guess if you want to be very realistic some people simply won’t have the opportunity to be free like slaves, and it can be a freeing thought that you decide yourself. But I think it’s still pretty frightening
@nathaniel6210
@nathaniel6210 4 жыл бұрын
@@VeryAverageGirl I see it as not necessarily encouraging suicide but encouraging the idea that even if were in a situation we cant get out of, we have more freedom than we think
@bigdaddy2372
@bigdaddy2372 4 жыл бұрын
Is a realistic view
@DailyStoic
@DailyStoic 5 жыл бұрын
“Don’t seek for everything to happen as you wish it would, but rather wish that everything happens as it actually will-then your life will flow well.” - Epictetus
@callista4990
@callista4990 Жыл бұрын
god damn, i never thought of this interaction happening online!
@alittlelate6188
@alittlelate6188 11 ай бұрын
To say it with the words on Nietzsche, "Amor Fati"
@kevins7704
@kevins7704 7 жыл бұрын
'What need is there to cry over parts of life when the whole of it calls for tears" So sophistical yet makes sense somehow.
@vvohvaelez9277
@vvohvaelez9277 7 жыл бұрын
Makes sense quite easily tbh
@jahirlumagan2443
@jahirlumagan2443 5 жыл бұрын
If I were Paulina, I would have said "Maybe because these parts of life make up my whole life."
@the-brownwhale
@the-brownwhale 4 жыл бұрын
I can't understand this? Can anyone explain this?
@tkdking1000
@tkdking1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@the-brownwhale Basically a reminder that sometimes things can happen and there's nothing we can do and it's okay. These things are a part of life, however it might happen once and never happen again. You've had your entire life to live, don't let one single event bring you down so easily.
@the-brownwhale
@the-brownwhale 4 жыл бұрын
@@tkdking1000 thanks for the explanation, I really appreciate the way you explained.
@hailalexander93
@hailalexander93 6 жыл бұрын
"Life is 10% what happens to me, 90% how I react to it." -Scipio Africanus; Roman Genral, Statesman and Philosopher.
@AH-on6jt
@AH-on6jt 3 жыл бұрын
My 8th grade English teacher said this once and it's stayed with me ever since. I didn't agree with it then because it felt like everything was so out of my control as a teen in a family that focused on suppressing emotions and unintentional neglect. But as I've gotten older in my teens I see how true that is.
@hailalexander93
@hailalexander93 3 жыл бұрын
@@AH-on6jt it's one of my favorite quotes
@jwu1950
@jwu1950 2 жыл бұрын
@@AH-on6jt That is not true. The truth is life is 100% what you believe life is, nothing more, nothing less. So, choose wisely what you want to believe. May the love and the peace of Jesus be with us.
@ChuckChuckWood
@ChuckChuckWood Жыл бұрын
@@jwu1950 People don't choose their beliefs, you are either convinced of something or not.
@jwu1950
@jwu1950 Жыл бұрын
@@ChuckChuckWood Exactly. People have the choices of being convinced or not. Everyone is making a choice. No one can be absolutely sure of anything because truth is a personal choice, aka subjective, truth is temporary, and truth is situational. There is no objective truth, no permanent truth, and no absolute truth. It's that simple. May the love and the peace of Jesus be with us.
@cassiuscyparissus5567
@cassiuscyparissus5567 8 жыл бұрын
hope leads to anxiety, anxiety leads to fear, fear leads to.. the dark side..
@reecehayden7731
@reecehayden7731 6 жыл бұрын
To quote the greatest man who never lived
@thereddemon8706
@thereddemon8706 6 жыл бұрын
The dark side sometimes leads to suicide.
@FocusMrbjarke
@FocusMrbjarke 5 жыл бұрын
Hope doesn’t lead to anxiety
@judithkimball2125
@judithkimball2125 5 жыл бұрын
Hope gives me courage
@VixXstazosJOB
@VixXstazosJOB 5 жыл бұрын
We don't need StarWars trolling... get out XD
@Publiopf
@Publiopf 9 жыл бұрын
Never before have I seen videos on KZfaq whose comments were worth reading. It's been so much fun hanging around with so many smart and sensitive people.
@ermahgawd3889
@ermahgawd3889 9 жыл бұрын
Publio Furbino Agreed.
@Chuschannel
@Chuschannel 8 жыл бұрын
+Publio Furbino When my balls get itchy, I must scratch them, because this is the logical thing to do.
@Itsatz0
@Itsatz0 8 жыл бұрын
+Chu Kim You could cut them off.
@Chuschannel
@Chuschannel 8 жыл бұрын
***** Logic and the lessons of philosophy tells me that would not be wise.
@Itsatz0
@Itsatz0 8 жыл бұрын
Chu Kim Logic dictates that humor has a way of destroying dogma. Enabling one a fresh view on a subject.
@davidmandujano1824
@davidmandujano1824 3 жыл бұрын
Would Stoic philosophy essentially be the “it is what it is” phrase
@BY-sh6gt
@BY-sh6gt 3 жыл бұрын
yup, or "yeah it do be like that sometimes"
@Jerry-kw8ge
@Jerry-kw8ge 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my God this is soo underrated 😆😆😆
@kiileetsoku2397
@kiileetsoku2397 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@paigemuse
@paigemuse 2 жыл бұрын
like "oh! anyways so..."
@MoritzvonSchweinitz
@MoritzvonSchweinitz 2 жыл бұрын
Also, a deep "Eh. Shit happens"
@lemagnificent7553
@lemagnificent7553 5 жыл бұрын
Mom: Don't think about bad things, son. If you think about them too much, they'll happen. Me: No, mom. They'll happen if they're supposed to. I just need to be ready.
@erojerisiz1571
@erojerisiz1571 5 жыл бұрын
Me: *grabs rifle* I'm ready.
@mir9168
@mir9168 4 жыл бұрын
YES THIS IS IT
@LuFX23
@LuFX23 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds more like depression
@gutar5675
@gutar5675 4 жыл бұрын
@Cliff Hanley The stoic believes that only his actions are under his control, but it does not mean that he can't urge people or spread information. The stoic doesn't only accept that things can't be changed, but they understand when their actions can lead to change and when their actions can't.
@gutar5675
@gutar5675 4 жыл бұрын
@Cliff Hanley I think you're taking a very narrow view of determinism. If I push a boulder down a cliff, I cannot change how it rolls or what the boulder is. It will always be that boulder and it will always fall. I can choose whether to push or not, though.
@ratoneJR
@ratoneJR 8 жыл бұрын
Worse case scenario... I'll start over. No big deal. I have started over before.
@javazomb
@javazomb 8 жыл бұрын
Starting over was not nearly as bad as I made it out to be. Best wishes, friend
@burpie3258
@burpie3258 8 жыл бұрын
I haven't started over yet, but I know I'll have to eventually and I still dread it. Hopefully it won't be as bad as I think it'll be.
@ratoneJR
@ratoneJR 8 жыл бұрын
People are forced to start over, everyday. It really is no big deal.
@EmptyMan000
@EmptyMan000 8 жыл бұрын
Shit happens. Move on.
@TurnOnA6pence
@TurnOnA6pence 8 жыл бұрын
This is all good and proper when it's your own life at risk but what if the bad decisions you make end up costing others big time. It's hard to take that attitude when you cause somebody else's grief
@walterbyrd8380
@walterbyrd8380 8 жыл бұрын
Expect nothing and you won't be disappointed.
@fauberkaupfmann982
@fauberkaupfmann982 7 жыл бұрын
you'll never be surprised either.
@brianmurray7091
@brianmurray7091 7 жыл бұрын
+bro derick less expectations leaves more room for surprise
@fauberkaupfmann982
@fauberkaupfmann982 7 жыл бұрын
Brian Murray no, it doesn't.
@UltravioletFactoryYT
@UltravioletFactoryYT 7 жыл бұрын
I think one can in fact have large ambitions, just not expect it to work out even a bit.
@damppp
@damppp 7 жыл бұрын
walter byrd More like "expect the worst and you will be happily surprised"
@crzune
@crzune 7 жыл бұрын
So in basically stoicism is mastering emotional neutrality.
@kurtmill9080
@kurtmill9080 7 жыл бұрын
Non-attachment as some might say.
@LexCreeps
@LexCreeps 7 жыл бұрын
Think Buddhism, specifically the 4 noble truths/eightfold path
@user-vr3gn2hy2m
@user-vr3gn2hy2m 7 жыл бұрын
Not at all. Neutrality only in appearance.
@crzune
@crzune 7 жыл бұрын
Really I thought I was starting to become stoic really I'm becoming more apathetic
@wafflesingsong6715
@wafflesingsong6715 7 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's more like realizing the (very) potential insignificance of your emotion's impact in the real world and trying to live of reflection of that. The Stoics themselves weren't against emotions in of themselves, just didn't support emotion when it wasn't going to amount to anything, or dig you in a deeper hole than you'd already be in.
@TejenderPrasad
@TejenderPrasad 3 жыл бұрын
"Know that fear of suffering is worst than the suffering itself" - Paulo Coelho
@scathachar
@scathachar 3 жыл бұрын
Is this from the alchemist?
@TejenderPrasad
@TejenderPrasad 3 жыл бұрын
@@scathachar YUP 😊
@scathachar
@scathachar 3 жыл бұрын
@@TejenderPrasad thank you :)
@TejenderPrasad
@TejenderPrasad 3 жыл бұрын
@@scathachar Do read the book if you haven't Already 😊.
@scathachar
@scathachar 3 жыл бұрын
@@TejenderPrasad I haven't, but I will 👍 I see it everywhere through synchonicities ^^
@stratocaster1986able
@stratocaster1986able 9 жыл бұрын
Stoicism is not pessimism, it is about neutrality.
@villiestephanov984
@villiestephanov984 6 жыл бұрын
MarcusAurelius No! Is not.
@tagaway6173
@tagaway6173 6 жыл бұрын
Villie Stephanov or is it?
@alexminsky1
@alexminsky1 6 жыл бұрын
Well, some of them were pretty Cynic. Including Epictetus who as you may know inspired Marcus Aurelius. They weren’t Nihilistic, though.
@kekero540
@kekero540 6 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily it’s better to say it’s about responsibility.
@adrian_zombturtle148
@adrian_zombturtle148 6 жыл бұрын
No its about the neutrality to be what you want
@Z0MBI3P3LICAN
@Z0MBI3P3LICAN 7 жыл бұрын
stoicism, ripping off the bandaid of life.
@anonymousmale2646
@anonymousmale2646 7 жыл бұрын
Nice, I like this.
@marconmz
@marconmz 7 жыл бұрын
without a flinch
@upmayo100
@upmayo100 6 жыл бұрын
Quite the opposite actually. It's a philosophy which aims to provide emotional bubble wrap.
@villiestephanov984
@villiestephanov984 6 жыл бұрын
Rusty Shakleford Reasoning.
@villiestephanov984
@villiestephanov984 6 жыл бұрын
The Real Craig , need practical wrap the babble of emotion
@natural_law
@natural_law 7 жыл бұрын
"Never complain and never explain." - Benjamin Disraeli
@essah4161
@essah4161 5 жыл бұрын
@WakinTheDeadFan lmao do you think he would explain... complaining is not helpful in any situation as it drags your emotional energy and explainig also. You can't get your point across everytime and you shouldn't, as a lot of people do not want to hear any reasonable choice
@noelnoni7310
@noelnoni7310 4 жыл бұрын
Never complain is false as it gets. Closed mouths don't get fed mate
@drasticgamerstv1025
@drasticgamerstv1025 3 жыл бұрын
@@noelnoni7310 complaining has two aspects imo... 1. Complaining to someone where that person can understand n change the situation into something positive 2. Complaining, which most people do where nothing is positive. Such as, complaining things we can't control, etc this should not be done.
@hugosalinasaliaga5266
@hugosalinasaliaga5266 6 жыл бұрын
In all of my engineering projects we used the "What If" this bad thing happens (and what to do ahead of time to mitigate it) during construction or the operating phase. Engineers are stoics by nature.
@bigdougbarkz
@bigdougbarkz 2 жыл бұрын
That is incorrect. Sorry
@coweatsman
@coweatsman 9 жыл бұрын
Hope is the universal panacea today. Every politician and every commentator says "we need hope" or "this gives us hope". In fact hope is a source of anxiety. With hope comes the possibility that you will not get. No one hopes for what is certain or what they already have. The more hope you have of winning a lottery, the greater your disappointment on losing.
@kaigibson806
@kaigibson806 8 жыл бұрын
right on, I love how you worded that
@milesmorrow4860
@milesmorrow4860 8 жыл бұрын
+coweatsman Hopes a devil or a saviour
@BroCactus
@BroCactus 8 жыл бұрын
+coweatsman hope is a beggar. It walks through the fire and faith leaps right over it.
@mallemall012
@mallemall012 8 жыл бұрын
+coweatsman There is nothing wrong with remaining open to a possibility that can and may benefit you. The problem, I think, stems from creating an attachment to the outcome you have placed your hopes in. I may hope to win the lottery, as it builds on the strength and perseverance it takes to continue buying lottery tickets, but in the end I will not allow myself to be hung up on the fact that I did not win. Toss out my card, buy another one, and try again! There is no certainty to life, and everything will eventually fade away. Hope distances us, and creates a barrier between this rather cynic, but realistic viewpoint, and opens us up to the infinitesimal possibilities of our current reality.
@milesmorrow4860
@milesmorrow4860 8 жыл бұрын
Friend i worship you i am bruce lee have you heard of me?
@BW3721
@BW3721 9 жыл бұрын
I feel like stoicism is Roman Buddhism. Epictetus is my favorite stoic I've read,but I can't claim I've read them all.
@incognitosecret2377
@incognitosecret2377 9 жыл бұрын
Brandon Wheeler I think I actually just realized the meaning of a buddhist teaching through this video.
@BW3721
@BW3721 9 жыл бұрын
Cynicism and asceticism I think have there similarities too. There is a lot of crossover, I'd say between the four.
@BW3721
@BW3721 9 жыл бұрын
+Mr. Gaunt They aren't exact equivalents, but the basic belief that suffering is unavoidable and that accepting suffering will improve one's life is shared.
@killerdinoblood12
@killerdinoblood12 8 жыл бұрын
+Brandon Wheeler Or maybe Buddhism is Hindu Stoicism ;q ?
@sindabadthesailor1
@sindabadthesailor1 8 жыл бұрын
+Simeon Vasilev - Em, no. In Hinduism everything is centred around the God/s. Buddhists don't care much about the supernatural entities.
@deepthakur575
@deepthakur575 Жыл бұрын
It reminds me Seneca's ever famous quote - " we suffer more in imagination than in reality "
@Emodnet
@Emodnet 7 жыл бұрын
Today I discovered that I've been living my life with many of the Stoic's values. I always imagine the worst case scenarios, because it actually makes me feel better and eases my mind. I do also get annoyed at people who always assume things will turn out ok, even if there's no proof of a certain good outcome. I think of the worst outcomes because when something happens and it's not as bad as I thought I feel a million times better. Stoics are right about needing to be weary of hope, it does only lead to disappointment and crushed dreams. I like to look at the dark side of things because it helps prepare me for whatever happens, instead of allowing myself to be blinded unnecessarily by hope.
@Dantick09
@Dantick09 9 жыл бұрын
this comes down to having realistic expectations, particularly true in love, the fear of acceptance or rejection is all a frabrication od the suject's mind.
@warren2948
@warren2948 9 жыл бұрын
Dantick09 enlightening
@iz2333
@iz2333 5 жыл бұрын
Old comment but - stoicism isn't about realistic expectations, the whole idea of expectations should be avoided. If you expect something to happen, you determine a future, that does not yet exist and therefore can't be known. Expectations are a major source of frustration and disappointment. Instead, a stoic expects nothing but prepares for everything, so whatever happens, you're equipped to deal with it and cannot be disappointed.
@javierbonadeo4569
@javierbonadeo4569 4 жыл бұрын
if you said stoics prepares for everything...then they expect everything
@jorgep1
@jorgep1 8 жыл бұрын
I tried to check out Meditations by Marcus Aurelius from my local library. The librarian and I were shocked to find no copies available. Some were checked out but many were lost or stolen. She said to me, "this must be a very good book, I've never seen anything like this happen before." I am starting to understand why this book is so popular.
@AMCTKate
@AMCTKate 7 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how this video was uplifting and depressing all at once. I want to laugh and cry simultaneously 😂😭
@Volleyballislife1234
@Volleyballislife1234 7 жыл бұрын
Kinda like life... which is like philosophy. full circle completed.
@AboodeyMUFC
@AboodeyMUFC 7 жыл бұрын
A.M.C.T Kate consult a doctor 😂😂
@coldpineapples9328
@coldpineapples9328 6 жыл бұрын
Thank god, someone who feels the same way as I do. At first I was like, "Hmmm interesting and very convincing.." until it got to the suicide part .-.
@jinfps7712
@jinfps7712 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, you’re awake
@ludwigvanbeethoven6853
@ludwigvanbeethoven6853 5 жыл бұрын
"Hope only lifts you higher for the eventual fall" 🔝
@JohnBelchamber
@JohnBelchamber 9 жыл бұрын
Marcus Aurelius's Meditations is one of my favourite philosophy books.
@Junker-kr4sd
@Junker-kr4sd 9 жыл бұрын
This video has started my cure of my anger problem. It COMPLETELY explained anger in a way I have been trying to my whole entire life! Thank you Stoics.
@cristinalacoste2062
@cristinalacoste2062 5 жыл бұрын
Anger stems when misplaced hope smashes into unforeseen reality. I love these videos.
@abegailelaurza5919
@abegailelaurza5919 5 жыл бұрын
This lesson made me understand that I am actually being stoic in life. I feel like this is where I belong
@azathothic
@azathothic 8 жыл бұрын
Meditations is truly moving and even life changing. I would totally recommend it as its mostly plain speaking. Its somewhat short and a seemingly self evident piece of gold.
@abdyabdy3177
@abdyabdy3177 6 жыл бұрын
"WHAT NEED IS THERE TO WEEP OVER PARTS OF LIFE? THE WHOLE OF IT CALLS FOR TEARS."
@grtwhtbnr
@grtwhtbnr 7 жыл бұрын
"Anger stems when misplaced hope shatters into unforseen reality" I like that
@cheeseclover
@cheeseclover 4 жыл бұрын
dang, the comparison between ‘not being angry at rain’ and ‘being angry when something unpleasant happens’ was what really hit the most. it opened my eyes a lot more to ‘expecting misery’ rather than ‘expecting the unexpected’ because expecting the unexpected is easy, but what isnt easy is the ‘cause and effect’ or the ‘reaction’ that comes from the unexpected.
@cheeseclover
@cheeseclover 4 жыл бұрын
as tiny as the difference is between expecting misery and expecting the unexpected, it still makes a larger difference in the long run when practiced so that’s just what i thought was super cool
@uwuk_hai
@uwuk_hai 8 жыл бұрын
happiness are fleeting moments, sorrows are the companion of the wise.
@DanyalLodhi
@DanyalLodhi 9 жыл бұрын
Epictetus is also one of the greatest teachers. Stoicism has had a major influence in my life. Going through major challenges and being calm. However, with time I realized that I see many similarities between Stoic and Epicurean ideals and I use both to develop my mindset. I also use Cynic values, I see Stoic wisdom in Schopenhauer, in Nietsczhe. For me, being emboldened, being strong, being brave in the face of life is what counts. And all these philosophies lead me to that direction. Thank you for the great videos. I really enjoy them and they are a quick reminder for me to get back on the right path :)
@DanyalLodhi
@DanyalLodhi 9 жыл бұрын
I do have a question for you. Are you actually Alain de Botton replying to my comment?
@pirrepe
@pirrepe 9 жыл бұрын
***** can one say that the reason Nero, other than assholeness or craziness, told Seneca to kill himself was to prove the stoic philosophy of suicide is a path of freedom? hope I phrase it right. I will not re-read it. :P cheers.
@MentalHealthMMA
@MentalHealthMMA 4 жыл бұрын
I became stoic after my first psychiatric hospitalization for mental health. I just didn't know what Stoicism was at the time. And had no idea there was a term that defined exactly how I felt until now. I called it an internal suicide pact.
@vallenvega
@vallenvega 4 жыл бұрын
"you are stronger than you think" that was exactly what my brother said to me when I faced a rough patch. teared up a bit. thanks a lot for the video.
@lotnewlifewhy5190
@lotnewlifewhy5190 Жыл бұрын
Yo dude, I just wanted to ask how are you now? Feeling good I hope?
@mrmtn37
@mrmtn37 7 жыл бұрын
"The whole of it (life) calls for tears." The imperfection of all humanity, the realization, and acceptance, brings peace. As well Wabi Sabi can bring peace through learning that we are allowed to, accept, love, and cherish, the imperfection we all posses. Nature must not be perfect, man is its greatest example of this.
@aroneidelman2237
@aroneidelman2237 7 жыл бұрын
Nature and man may not always affect us with joy, but doesn't that have more to do with our confusion than with Nature's perfection? And even if we are confused, we're perfect insofar as we have some idea of Nature--the more adequate, the more perfect.
@BountyFlamor
@BountyFlamor 9 жыл бұрын
so Stoicism basically champions rationality
@thegoonist
@thegoonist 8 жыл бұрын
+BountyFlamor how apt, this statement, coming from a german ;)
@BountyFlamor
@BountyFlamor 8 жыл бұрын
john smith ?
@iAmTheTrueSpaceman
@iAmTheTrueSpaceman 8 жыл бұрын
+BountyFlamor I think John meant that German people are usually considered to be pretty rational and practical people. Thus your comment seems to reflect that connection, assuming your profile picture really stands for the country you're from.
@AlexIncarnate911
@AlexIncarnate911 8 жыл бұрын
+spaceman hahaa Clever.
@jorgepeterbarton
@jorgepeterbarton 8 жыл бұрын
+spaceman No not really, that's just old british comedies, which is why they didn't get the joke.
@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz
@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz 4 жыл бұрын
Surviving a major earthquake taught me like no other experience I've had that what we see as settled reality is a thin, arbitrary film we've scribbled over the surface of an infinite and completely indifferent universe. The world not only doesn't care if we're happy or unhappy, it doesn't even know that we exist. I've never looked at life the same way since.
@tunatabak8331
@tunatabak8331 3 жыл бұрын
Difference between a nihilist and a stoic. Stoic: Shit happens. Nihilist: I do not give a shit.
@greaylinmyers966
@greaylinmyers966 8 жыл бұрын
man I can't stop watching these videos... I deactivated all my social media accounts, but still wanted something meaningful to research because I still utilize the internet. These videos have been great thanks
@LockeShocke
@LockeShocke 8 жыл бұрын
Pretty disappointed in this. Yes, there is a mention of expecting miseries, but there is no mention of the claim that people are disturbed not by things, but by their impression of things. No mention of how there are some things that are up to us, and others that are not. No mention of Zeno, Chrysippus, Epictetus. These are significant gaps.
@HuxleyWasRight
@HuxleyWasRight 8 жыл бұрын
+LockeShocke it is only a 5 minute overview of stoicism, there's plenty to get a beginner started.
@murimurimrui
@murimurimrui 8 жыл бұрын
+LockeShocke It's like people expect the whole vide to sum up stoicism in one video + history of it. If you didn't get the memo, the video is about the idea of stocism.
@LucasGuillemette
@LucasGuillemette 8 жыл бұрын
+LockeShocke No no of course your right Locke, the whole history of man kind should fit into a 5 min video. Expectations should be respected.
@eight216
@eight216 8 жыл бұрын
Probably because that's just a moderately more complicated way to say "it's all in your head!"
@ZoeEGrace
@ZoeEGrace 8 жыл бұрын
I used to expect videos on KZfaq to be useful and comprehensive, but then I realised that it's lucky if there is any sense in them at all. Nowadays, I don't let it worry me that most, if not all YoutTube videos are empty and time wasting. It's my own fault if I click on them in the first place. But this one was a nice shade of yellow, and I'm content with that. :)
@anandabliss7382
@anandabliss7382 5 жыл бұрын
I can't get enough of your videos. "The School of Life" is such an appropriate name for your channel. I wish all your videos would be also narrated in Spanish and that everybody since an early age would educate themselves in all these subjects, which ultimately leads to the understanding of oneself. Thank you SO very much for your illuminating job!!!
@switzerlandful
@switzerlandful 4 жыл бұрын
"Things are not as they seem." - Someone "All things pass" - Someone "don't try to be perfect, just try to improve & don't punish yourself."
@potenvandebizon
@potenvandebizon 8 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you mention the Greeks? It originated in the Stoa, although it was indeed very much popularized by the Romans.
@potenvandebizon
@potenvandebizon 8 жыл бұрын
+The School of Life I was prepared for this catastrophe, so it's okay.
@Forcystus85
@Forcystus85 8 жыл бұрын
You could have at least mentioned that Zeno of Citium was the founder of Stoicism about 350 years before Seneca even lived...
@le_puke7058
@le_puke7058 8 жыл бұрын
+Mistermaarten150 First person on youtube paying attention to a video.. *slowly claps
@Refulgent_Rascal
@Refulgent_Rascal 7 жыл бұрын
Well you could argue that the line of thinking originated with Buddhism or even further back with Jainism. They said similar philosophies with never expect and truly accept what is etc.
@richwestman9694
@richwestman9694 7 жыл бұрын
I think it was due to few if any of the Greek stoics written works having survived to present day, Chrysippus for example is mentioned by the Roman stoics as a prolific writer but the only knowledge we have of those writings are from these Romans accounts of them, where as Roman stoics especially Seneca have a large number of surviving works to draw from.
@killerbait8240
@killerbait8240 4 жыл бұрын
"Hope only lifts you up higher for the eventual fall"
@sreeparvati3449
@sreeparvati3449 5 жыл бұрын
A better way to think is "Expect the worst but hope for the best". And even if you are disappointed what's the big deal? Just smile tell yourself it's ok and move on. I think it's a better way to lead life.
@tronghuynh8189
@tronghuynh8189 5 жыл бұрын
Reading The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius has changed so much about how I see the world. I love coming in to work and making the lives of other people better. I fear much less about the outcome and focus more on what I'm doing in the moment.
@JJY888
@JJY888 6 жыл бұрын
I've been turning Stoic and I didn't even realize it. Nothing scares me like it used to and I can handle rejection like never before. I think it's because I've been successful with my recovery and I've read allot of spiritual and philosophical book.
@demianhaki7598
@demianhaki7598 9 жыл бұрын
Stoicism is definitely one of those philosophies that deserve a closer inspection, not only because of its valuable content but also because it is easily misunderstood and can have consequences that are not necessarily to be recommended. For instance, while very emotional people might benefit from embracing the Stoic focus on accepting certain events for the time being, it can also be quite fatalistic. Secondly, in a society in which rationality dominates and emotions are neglected, being too much of a Stoic can lead us to disregard our emotions and their very necessary expression. If one is stoic only because one surpresses one's emotions for the sake of what should be thought rationally, that's a recipe for desaster. BUT: Ideally, one can combine the initial, healthy emotional expression with a follow-up dose of stoic putting-things-in-perspective.
@robbert-janmerk6783
@robbert-janmerk6783 9 жыл бұрын
Stoics do not propose repressing emotions or to be fatalistic. One thing Stoics stress is that it is no use spending time or energy on things you can't control. Those things you just accept and move on. However, you do have control over your thoughts and actions: you are capable of being virtuous and there is nothing fatalistic about that. As happiness is purely dependent on virtue according to the Stoics, this means that you have full control over your happiness. Stoics were against passion, but this is a bit misleading as they had a technical definition for it. Passions are irrational judgements of overvalueing "indifferents". Emotions like "joy" and "caution" were perfectly fine with Stoics. See for a better explanation here: www.iep.utm.edu/stoiceth/#H5. What Stoics propose is to stop reacting so emotionally to events that aren't that important.
@edr5000
@edr5000 7 жыл бұрын
I am so thankful to have read and still reading meditations! It's a life changing experience. I believe every politician or anyone conscious should read this text! Highly recommended if you are anyone! I love you all (:
@dustinblack2006
@dustinblack2006 6 жыл бұрын
That ending hit me hard. Especially with the juxtaposition of his uplifting tone of narration! hauntingly beautiful.
@maxschumann2761
@maxschumann2761 7 жыл бұрын
3:19 The Olli Kahn appearance makes me appreciate your channel even more. Just wow.
@manavgupta100
@manavgupta100 5 жыл бұрын
Love stoicism. It makes lots of sense. It's almost like living life as if market is always in deep recession.
@MasisReubenPanos
@MasisReubenPanos 7 жыл бұрын
A very good video. Some minor points: Nero being depicted entirely depraved, whilst Marcus Aurelius being called "kindly" when he could be ruthless. The picture used at 1:09 is a renaissance painting of Constantine "the great Christian" at the Battle of the Milvian bridge rather than Marcus Aurelius. An image from the "column of Marcus Aurelius" in Rome that shows some of the "scenes" of his campaigns could have done.
@vvohvaelez9277
@vvohvaelez9277 7 жыл бұрын
I dont understand, do you really think Nero is underrepresented and MA over represented? Nero was a loser with a weak mind. He had Seneca as a tutor and he still gave in to his ill temper and malicious desires. His jealousy of Seneca is the mark of a truly depraved character. In comparison, MA is very kind indeed
@opfergameplay8450
@opfergameplay8450 Жыл бұрын
This video saved my life on multiple occasions thank you!
@feedmemusic3460
@feedmemusic3460 9 жыл бұрын
What are emotions but animals? But they are necessary animals, helpful even, beasts of burden that carry you through life. Rather than despise, deny, or make enemies of them...or simply let them run untamed, why not make allies of them. Anger may do stupid things, but righteous anger is a powerful energy that can trample over injustice. But you are the leader of that animal, and its reins are your perception. If you are quick to be offended by illusory threats your emotional animal will be quick to rage. Starve your animal and perhaps then it will seem easier to control, but that is an illusion. Real control comes from perception, and it seems a waste to throw your emotions away.
@dissolvemusicofficial7652
@dissolvemusicofficial7652 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This helps with my depression and despair.
@evka24
@evka24 3 жыл бұрын
talk to someone...problem shared is problem halved.....ur suffering is temporary...u will see the light at the end of tunnel...if u wish...
@Hectorm95256
@Hectorm95256 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way they simplify a complex philosophy to make it teachable and understandable.
@victoriamendoza9459
@victoriamendoza9459 9 ай бұрын
I was grown up a stoic not because of choice, nor because I learnt it at school. I learnt it at home through the example of one person (my father) but even more due to the constant but not continuous punches in the face that life would give me since I was a child growing up in a highly dysfunctional that still managed to look normal (which is even more horrifying because to most people I seemed lucky and it was great I was such a shy and well behaved kid outside while I would be THE devil by being a normally selfish or mischievous child at home competing with my nemesis, my always beloved, always protected "poor" cousin who would not have her father nearby but had her mother's whole tribe for her and against me. Not because I was inherently bad (now I know) but because they identified more with her and because she was the one with the foreign nationality, which automatically makes you "better" where I was born)
@charlescumberland6887
@charlescumberland6887 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant series School of Life. I thank you kindly for making these videos both insightful and entertaining. Cheers from Australia
@Roselightdv
@Roselightdv 9 жыл бұрын
The picture choices in this are absolutely hilarious. Love it. However cynical I was feeling this morning, at least now I"m laughing. It's a start.
@stephaniecarr6984
@stephaniecarr6984 4 жыл бұрын
As one who has very recently become quite enamored with the concept of Stoicism, this is now OFFICIALLY my favorite SOL-Thank you SO much!!! Or rather, ahem.. thanks.
@comradecracker447
@comradecracker447 Жыл бұрын
As my answer since long ago of being asked of if I am excited or not, I am not hopeful for nothing nor expect nothing of anything, and with that everything is a blessing.
@timothynoonan8591
@timothynoonan8591 8 жыл бұрын
I usually love these videos, but this one is riddled with historical inaccuracies and philosophical misrepresentations. Starting with the former, there is no evidence that Nero ever slept with his own mother (though he did have her killed) or raped young boys. Accusations of sexual deviancy were thrown about even more loosely in Rome than they are today, and usually represented general dissatisfaction with the administration. Similarly, Tiberius probably didn't throw recently deflowered sex slaves off cliffs, and Caligula probably wasn't sleeping with his sisters. Furthermore, Nero didn't have Seneca kill himself for no reason, he did it because Seneca had joined a plot against his life. More importantly, though, there are some deep misunderstandings of Stoicism here. There was no big Stoic 'but,' the whole point is that you very well might not be ok. You may be injured or even killed. The Stoic philosophy at its core is that one should only value what cannot be taken away, and for the Stoics this is virtue. The world is ever changing and beyond your control, so you must not value the world - the only value is in your own mind. Your wife is killed? Who ever said she couldn't be killed? Your leg is chopped off? Who ever said no one could chop off your leg? Finally, any summary of Stoicism with no mention of Zeno of Citium or Epictetus is just a joke.
@ge0rge36
@ge0rge36 8 жыл бұрын
+Timothy Noonan any suggestions on what to read mentioning zeno or epictetus?
@timothynoonan8591
@timothynoonan8591 8 жыл бұрын
+vaiot13 Zeno founded the Stoic school, but unfortunately, as is the case with so many writers of his era, none of his works have survived to the present day. Peter Adamson's History of Philosophy podcast gives a good introduction to Zeno and the other early Stoics, however: historyofphilosophy.net/stoics-principles Much like Socrates, Epictetus did not write any works on his philosophy, but his ideas were recorded by his student Arrian in The Discourses of Epictetus and The Enchiridion of Epictetus. Both are available in English on Amazon. The always excellent Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy also has a great Epictetus article: plato.stanford.edu/entries/epictetus/
@alexandrossklavenitis8518
@alexandrossklavenitis8518 8 жыл бұрын
+Timothy Noonan I think Chrysippus should be mentioned as well as Zeno
@MrJaco324
@MrJaco324 8 жыл бұрын
+Timothy Noonan There will always bee a certain level of variance when speaking of things that happened thousands of years ago so its best not to declare one interpretation to be the correct one and the other false.
@Gameboob
@Gameboob 7 жыл бұрын
Timothy Noonan actually there is a stoic 'but' and you've just mentioned it. Happiness can be had despite things seeming bad bc happiness is complete tranquility of mind that comes from virtue, the perfection of reason.
@12345saoma
@12345saoma 8 жыл бұрын
Your voice in this video is so animated, i love it (as I always do)! Wow the Stoics are so interesting I want to learn more!!!
@antifelicitous4373
@antifelicitous4373 4 жыл бұрын
Please do. This philosophy is so rare in modern women... which is a real shame because I think it quite a viable route to empowerment.
@antboogeyman
@antboogeyman 6 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of both existentialism and Buddhism down to its core. The recognition of existence and understanding of the inevitability of suffering, yet to find true peace you must recognize that it is the battle of self in which needs to be won
@Nawroz770
@Nawroz770 7 жыл бұрын
I am here because I am trying to deal with my anxiety, stress, worries and fears, which often paralyze me and put me in long phases of inaction and passivity. I am trying to pinpoint the problem and figure out how to deal with it. Glad that I found about stoicism.
@spacetrips457
@spacetrips457 9 жыл бұрын
i absolutely LOVE all of your videos!! they are interesting and I learn a lot - but you also succeed to make it really fun and entertaining! WHY cant teachers at schools teach in the same way? Plus all the pictures really help you to remember all the facts, thanks a lot!! :)
@brunotvrs
@brunotvrs 7 жыл бұрын
1:29 "They say things like 'it'll BE OK!'" (...) "The stoics were appalled. They hated any kind of consolation" 2:05 "BUT (...) one must keep in mind that one will nevertheless BE OK!" It's like "I don't like it when you say it, but I love it when I say it" WHAT
@josesrivera
@josesrivera 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these videos. These are just perfect. The content, the illustrations, the editing, and of course the voice. This channel is my founded treasure.
@ledzeppelinfan1970
@ledzeppelinfan1970 7 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, this is by far the most useful of all the philosophical teachings you have covered.
@warren2948
@warren2948 9 жыл бұрын
the 4:53 minutes that changed my life
@ulkem
@ulkem 8 жыл бұрын
When I watch this old video, I can clearly hear the voice difference between then and now. This has more excitefulness while now it's more soothing. They both bring profound thought but if I had a say in it, I'd say bring back the excitement.
@Shystichu
@Shystichu 7 жыл бұрын
I was stoic since a teen before I even knew what it was. Now, as an adult, the more I research philosophy as a whole, the more I'm fascinated by certain outlooks I have on various topics in life innately.
@rogeredwards1925
@rogeredwards1925 7 жыл бұрын
In other words, as they say in AA, Your serenity is in direct proportion to your expectations.
@keerteshtripathi6413
@keerteshtripathi6413 4 жыл бұрын
Lord Baelish once said"Don't fight in the North or the South. Fight every battle, everywhere, always, in your mind. Everyone is your enemy. Everyone is your friend. Every possible series of events is happening at once. Live that way and nothing will surprise you. Everything that happens will be something you’ve seen before"
@junesilvermanb2979
@junesilvermanb2979 4 жыл бұрын
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petyr_Baelish
@khansolo4178
@khansolo4178 7 жыл бұрын
De Bottom is unusually excited in this video
@fkasqar8484
@fkasqar8484 7 жыл бұрын
To expect misery as we have learnt to expect rain. - love that philosophy/analogy
@arvj123
@arvj123 6 жыл бұрын
It's good to see old videos of TSOL to see how much they've improved through the years. :)
@madhusudhana
@madhusudhana 7 жыл бұрын
Epictetus???? The most important and has the most volume in his works.
@madhusudhana
@madhusudhana 7 жыл бұрын
Commentatorrr Rrr it's a shame because he was a lame slave made his philosophy hold more weight.
@innosanto
@innosanto 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe because the guy/team that made the video havent read all of the Stoics or Epictetus and put in what they have read.
@slothfromthegoonies8201
@slothfromthegoonies8201 8 жыл бұрын
This video didn't touch on them much, but I think the most important lessons to take away, especially from a modern viewpoint, are: There's a difference between an actual event, and our perception of it; something is only bad because we interpret it to be bad. These thoughts are irrational, as are all negative emotions such as anger, anxiety, jealousy, fear, craving, etc. They serve no purpose and are considered to be destructive emotions. We are naturally illogical and controlled by emotions, the key is to control our emotions and view events from a more logical perspective. As the video said, yes you may have lost your job but it's not the end of the world, to feel as though it is the end of the world is completely irrational and serves no logical purpose. *We cannot always control events around us, they are like a storm dictated by uncontrollable factors, but we have complete control over what happens within our minds.* - Sloth from The Goonies (1/6/2016)
@JulianusMaximianus
@JulianusMaximianus 8 жыл бұрын
You smell like phys-ed.
@slothfromthegoonies8201
@slothfromthegoonies8201 8 жыл бұрын
Julianus Maximianus You smell like shit.
@JulianusMaximianus
@JulianusMaximianus 8 жыл бұрын
Sloth from The Goonies Heeey you guuuuys!
@slothfromthegoonies8201
@slothfromthegoonies8201 8 жыл бұрын
Julianus Maximianus Chunk?
@KarishmaChanglani
@KarishmaChanglani 7 жыл бұрын
When I first saw a video by School of Life I thought to myself, "This is very close to stoicism" So this video doesn't surprise me one bit. Great work guys.
@AiraCamille
@AiraCamille 3 жыл бұрын
Wow it hit me.. Im so tired listening to other people of the same lines when someone is in pain like no one is acknowledging the pain that you're feeling. Truth really hurts, you're on your own pain and if you're weak you're out. It is really survival of the fittest.
@swabby429
@swabby429 8 жыл бұрын
What about Epictetus? Oh well, no matter.
@BunnyUK
@BunnyUK 8 жыл бұрын
I would argue that Epictetus, as a former slave, is a far more authentic proponent of Stoicism than either Marcus Aurelius or Seneca, both of whom were from wealthy aristocratic backgrounds and had immense personal power. Stoicism is needed more by the powerless than the powerful, in coping with the unfairness and harshness of human existence.
@RickJaeger
@RickJaeger 7 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter how "needed" philosophy is. It only matters if it's true or not. If Richie Rich tells you the sky is blue, is it less authentic than if Joe the Hobo says it?
@overmanzarathustra4041
@overmanzarathustra4041 5 жыл бұрын
No. But if Richie Rich tells me "You don't need material wealth for a happy existence", it will be less authentic than if Joe the Hobo says it.
@zjs6605
@zjs6605 5 жыл бұрын
That's a good explanation of Stoicism right there: "Oh well, no matter." lol
@sagarpatel6841
@sagarpatel6841 4 жыл бұрын
@@BunnyUK i beg to differ, i understand that Epictetus was excellent stoic even being slave But, Marcus Aurelius being emperor had power over whole empire Even then He lived life of stoic Without giving in to Desires. To have such control on himself! Epictetus had external struggles that led him to become stoic He had to become stoic to live such a life but not Marcus Aurelius.
@makrofocus
@makrofocus 7 жыл бұрын
So I am a Stoic and didn't even knew it... Interesting.
@samir6047
@samir6047 5 жыл бұрын
Anger happens when misplaced hope smashes into unforseen reality ..damn !!!!so true
@Marshallgill
@Marshallgill Жыл бұрын
The story of Admiral James Stockdale brought me to an interest in Stoicism. After suffering 7 years in the Hanoi Hilton he said that he was glad that it happened!!! If you can be glad while suffering over 1 year in solitary confinement and torture then there is nothing, NOTHING that can keep you from happiness!! My "suffering"? It can't really even be called that next to what he experienced! The dialogues of Seneca are pure wisdom. I wish that I had made my children read them when they were young.
@penguindrummer252
@penguindrummer252 8 жыл бұрын
Hope is not a bad thing if there is a realistic chance for the good outcome to occur. As long as you are conscious of what might happen in the worst possible case.
@dmf030
@dmf030 8 жыл бұрын
+Penguindrummer Hope is an unnecessary distraction, as you are a small soul dragging a corpse.
@penguindrummer252
@penguindrummer252 8 жыл бұрын
David Fadul I don't share that opinion. The part with the corpse isn't even remotely true though.
@roymarshall_
@roymarshall_ 8 жыл бұрын
+Penguindrummer Whether hope is good or bad is not the point, the point is that hope is irrelevant. You can prefer a certain outcome, but ultimately not everything is up to you, so maximize the possibility of getting your preferred outcome by using everything that is in your control to get there, and be fundamentally indifferent to the final result. If something outside your control causes your goal to not be accomplished, then the only rational thing to do is say "that is how it is" and move forward.
@bug5327
@bug5327 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like I've cone to al lot of these conclusions already and now i have a word for it.
@SeanMontebello
@SeanMontebello 7 жыл бұрын
The pieces of text coming up that answer the question spoken, like the one at the beginning "life is very difficult", give me for some reason a very Grand Budapest Hotel feel, a wonderful film which is a very easy recommendation to anyone.
@bhaviq18
@bhaviq18 5 жыл бұрын
My dad told me to read up on Stoicism, it's actually sounding similar to how I think. Viewing this, and I'm realising things about myself. I enjoy the comments about 'hope' from you guys. I don't place hope in other people's abilities. That's where you end up getting let down. I keep the hope (that above expectation element) for myself and in my abilities. I would hope that I will do this or say that. Having hope in others hurt me alot growing up, I'm glad I learnt to stop it. Not 100% sure if this fits in completely with Stoicism (it's just my way of life), but I'm looking forward to learning more about Stoicism.
@Axle-F
@Axle-F 8 жыл бұрын
I finally understand that the Internet is full of stoics. Every yelling at people to kill themselves is such noble advice. As if.
@bluescarlet5479
@bluescarlet5479 8 жыл бұрын
Right!?, Lol. But, I don't think Stoics would be the the word I'd use.😁
@bluescarlet5479
@bluescarlet5479 8 жыл бұрын
Right!?, Lol. But, I don't think Stoics would be the the word I'd use.😁
@Refulgent_Rascal
@Refulgent_Rascal 7 жыл бұрын
hahaha!! 😂
@tim30006
@tim30006 7 жыл бұрын
That's not what stoics belive.
@JanetStarChild
@JanetStarChild 7 жыл бұрын
Axle doesn't get it. ...Unless that was sarcasm. Hard to tell.
@mik2420
@mik2420 4 жыл бұрын
To me, stoicism seems like the art of giving up; a tutorial on how to abandon the essence of humanity. There is nothing wrong with hope, with sadness, with happiness, with fear. To suppress emotion is to suppress humanity. It is not in our nature to expect all and to be surprised by none. We are built to search for what we do not know, it is lust for knowledge and for new experiences. To be let down after hoping for something does not mean you should never hope again, it is reason to turn hope into action and to learn. Stoicism argues to be the gateway to knowledge but how can one find knowledge of he is too afraid of being let down and not finding anything.
@cinderelly00
@cinderelly00 3 жыл бұрын
no that's not it. it's just saying that with every happiness, there are more disappointments. so don't be disappointed when disappointment comes. that's it.
@evka24
@evka24 3 жыл бұрын
its asking not to supress emotions but to handle them with calm
@MrSilver2nd
@MrSilver2nd 5 жыл бұрын
I love Nietzsche perspective of the Stoics which he articulates quite well in Beyond Good and Evil. "O you noble stoics, what deceptive words these are..."
@IanM-rl1pu
@IanM-rl1pu 2 жыл бұрын
Such a simple idea. Almost impossible to adequately implement but wisdom says you can only keep trying, courage keeps you going, virtue sets you back on your path and acceptance allows you to move on.
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