Philosophy Tier List - 35 Philosophy theories & ideas ranked

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Join Philosophy Vibe as George explores the philosophy tier list. 35 different philosophical theories, ideas and arguments are explained and then ranked based on how strong they are.
0:00 - Intro
2:00 - Teleological Argument • The Teleological Argum...
3:14 - Utilitarianism • Utilitarianism
4:11 - Determinism • Free Will and Determinism
5:35 - Ontological Argument • The Ontological Argume...
6:20 - Cartesian Dualism • Descartes: Meditations...
7:16 - Kantian Ethics • Kantian Ethics
7:50 - Non Naturalism (Intuitionism) • G.E Moore's Non Natura...
8:54 - Virtue Ethics • Aristotle's Ethical Th...
10:09 - Situation Ethics • Situation Ethics - Jos...
10:47 - Locke's Primary & Secondary Qualities • John Locke's Primary a...
12:06 - Cosmological Argument • The Cosmological Argum...
13:21 - Problem of Evil • The Problem of Evil (a...
14:08 - Berkeley's Idealism • George Berkeley's Idea...
15:37 - Emotivism • A.J Ayer's Emotivism -...
16:47 - Natural Law • Natural Law - Thomas A...
17:24 - Nihilism • Nietzsche: Nihilism an...
18:01 - Plato's Theory of Forms • Plato's Theory of Forms
18:53 - Plato's Cave • Plato's Allegory of th...
19:38 - Aristotle's Theory of Causation • Aristotle's Ethical Th...
20:20 - Skepticism • Skepticism (David Hume)
21:25 - Is-Ought Problem • The Is-Ought Problem (...
21:50 - Pantheism • Pantheism - Explained ...
22:37 - Euthyphro Dilemma • The Euthyphro Dilemma ...
23:14 - Existentialism • Sartre: Existentialism...
23:49 - Absurdism • Absurdism - (Albert Ca...
24:42 - Theological Determinism • Theological Determinis...
25:33 - Moral Relativism • Moral Relativism - Exp...
26:09 - Kant's Transcendental Idealism • Kant's Transcendental ...
26:56 - Simulation Theory • Simulation Theory - A ...
28:02 - Leibniz's Best of all Possible Worlds • Leibniz - Best of all ...
28:36 - Kierkegaard's 3 Stages of Life • Kierkegaard: 3 Stages ...
29:17 - Functionalism • Functionalism and John...
29:46 - Solipsism • Solipsism and the Prob...
30:55 - Moral Skepticism (Error Theory) • Moral Skepticism - Err...
32:10 - Quasi Realism • Quasi Realism (Metaeth...
33:02 - End

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@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
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@homosexualbiologicalmaleexit
@homosexualbiologicalmaleexit 7 ай бұрын
the philosophy must not tell us what to do just because universe function somehow , i have my own functionality separatelly specific isolated
@zequojai
@zequojai Жыл бұрын
The reason I would put skepticism in S tier is for the same reason you probably put allegory of the cave in S tier. The moral of that story is that you can't be completely certain that your preconceived notions are true in the first place, so we should always be open-minded and make decisions based on suspicion rather than dogma. In the same way as how you might say it's ridiculous to say we could turn into mashed potatoes, the prisoners thought it was ridiculous that the shadows were coming from objects outside the cave. It doesn't mean to actually believe in what you find ridiculous, but to at least not be closed off from the possibility
@neverbackdown1918
@neverbackdown1918 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know, intuitively the allegory of the cave makes sense, and intuitively, the shadows coming from objects also makes sense. Turning into mash potatoes doesn’t make any sense.
@zequojai
@zequojai Жыл бұрын
@@neverbackdown1918 I agree. This is more so about holding a dialectic: "I don't believe people will turn into mashed potatoes, but I could be wrong." This attitude is what allows us to hold our own opinions, while opening our minds to new, counterintuitive possibilities. Science is one example where counterintuitive truths that don't initially make sense are common. To embrace such truths that go against what we initially think is how we learn because otherwise, we're only ever observing that which we already know.
@neverbackdown1918
@neverbackdown1918 Жыл бұрын
@@zequojai the problem is the absurdity, since it seems to logically entail that an infinite amount of things are possible, which of course, makes the actual odds of them effectively 0, and Occam’s razor would say that we should go with the simples explanation. For example, you could turn into ice cream, but then it could be vanilla, Chocolate, strawberry, etc. 1 sprinkle, 2 sprinkles, 3 sprinkles, etc. You get the point.
@zequojai
@zequojai Жыл бұрын
​@@neverbackdown1918 I think there is still a dialectic: "It's absurd to me that I would turn into soap flavored ice cream with 5608 sprinkles, but I could be wrong." You don't have to discard any opinions that seem intuitive or logical to you in favor of the infinite amount of counterintuitive and seemingly illogical ideas. Instead, skepticism is simply about being humble enough to admit that we may be wrong. If you've ever seen a debate, you may find authentic people whose intuitions lead them to conclude what seems to the other to be very absurd. To atheists, the idea of God is as mythical as Zeus. To theists, God's existence is as obvious as gravity. It is only when both sides can humor the absurdity by embracing what seems to be ridiculous positively rather than critically where it can become possible for someone's mind to change. People can convert to the other side, but to do this, they must be skeptical towards their intuition. And yet, even after being skeptical, you may still find that people existing outside of the cave you're imprisoned to, people turning into soap flavored ice cream with 5608 sprinkles, Zeus, and an absence of gravity still makes no sense to you. So be it. But at least you allow yourself the freedom to think for yourself when making the decision to stay with what you believe
@TheLincolnrailsplitt
@TheLincolnrailsplitt 11 ай бұрын
That means you basically don't believe in anything. A sceptic is too cowardly to chose.
@Bonzi1nho
@Bonzi1nho Жыл бұрын
Every new video, I love this channel even more! One of the best philosophy channels on KZfaq
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much.
@musgrave6886
@musgrave6886 Жыл бұрын
excellent! that you've given a brief summation of these disparate arguments with your estimation on each one of them is immensely helpful. thanks and cheers!
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome, thanks for watching.
@garyhughes1664
@garyhughes1664 Жыл бұрын
Soooo good. Really enjoyed. Always been my favourite philosophy channel.
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video :)
@abdimalikgurhan3194
@abdimalikgurhan3194 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Thank you so much for everything!
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
You're welcome, thanks for watching.
@danielandrews5649
@danielandrews5649 Жыл бұрын
Love the work. I really enjoyed this video
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video my dude thank you really enjoyed it as someone who considers philosophy a main hobby of mine! Totally agree with the placement of determinism as well its very hard to argue against for sure
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed :)
@NeveJay
@NeveJay Жыл бұрын
Great video, please keep posting!
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dothex4919
@dothex4919 Жыл бұрын
This is fantastic! Thank you ❣️
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
You're welcome :)
@kieferonline
@kieferonline 7 ай бұрын
I love the list! This is the KZfaq philosophy video I've always wanted. It's going on my favorites list. I agree with the rankings and was secretly glad to see my man Kant up there in the A tier. You know, another good tier list could be the top 20 or 30 paradoxes. Not sure if that has enough substance for you but it could make for a good discussion.
@luyombojonathan6688
@luyombojonathan6688 3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@h4ymca
@h4ymca 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your work. After exiting Plato's Cave I see his Theory of Forms right in line with Pantheism and Theological Determinism.
@daniellevy2272
@daniellevy2272 Жыл бұрын
The concept of this video is perfect. I'd love to see more philosophical tier lists
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Perhaps something we can revisit :)
@alessiocardone9464
@alessiocardone9464 Жыл бұрын
ON CONSCIOUSNESS AND DETERMINISM Consciousness would play an important role even in a deterministic universe. The choiches of human beings happen through a recursive process, in which the mind deterministically generates a thought, and then that though arises into consciusness. Consciousness then becomes a way to observe one's own thoughts and use them as imput for other thought, just like the external objects we observe through consciousness are the imput for thought, so are thoughts themselves. This renders complex decision making more precise, raising survival odds.
@toesdoeswhoknows704
@toesdoeswhoknows704 Жыл бұрын
Consciousness doesn’t need to exist for this to happen. If the physical brain is all that exists than if we imagine the person being a philosophical zombie where the same physical causes happened in the brain, the same effects would’ve taken place without consciousness. Awareness is completely useless in a materialist determinist view as the physical effects are the same with and without consciousness.
@ArmandD
@ArmandD Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see another Philosophy tier list video with concepts not featured here, such as Physicalism, Pascal's Wager, and more
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
We may look at doing a part 2 to this.
@dogamongstmen
@dogamongstmen Ай бұрын
@@PhilosophyVibe Wish granted.
@simonsaysno
@simonsaysno Жыл бұрын
This is my go to philosophy channel on KZfaq. Another great video!
@Jacob-yb3hz
@Jacob-yb3hz Жыл бұрын
Love this channel but I feel like you defined Determinism oddly. Determinism is just the view that all events are determined completely by previously existing causes. The view that we do not have free will is a potential consequence of the view, but it is separate from the view itself. Compatibilism for example is the view that both free will and determinism exist. (Of course you know all this, I just think it should be clarified that Determinism isn't just a stance on free will).
@mugsofmirth8101
@mugsofmirth8101 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating... It seems then that I've always been a compatiblist without even knowing it! Thanks for your comment 👍
@pliondaris
@pliondaris Жыл бұрын
Love the new format! Can't wait to see more videos
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@muhammadshahedkhanshawon3785
@muhammadshahedkhanshawon3785 Жыл бұрын
Do you accept stage 1 of the contingency argument (Josh Rasmussen and alex pruss version) that there is a necessary existence which explains the Contingent Reality?and do you think our universe is contingent?
@brotherjones
@brotherjones Жыл бұрын
Ray Kurzweil argued for the "singularity", or that we are in the knee of the curve. Given the explosion of LLMs, machines that can pass the Turing test, machines that can improve their own code; how confident do you feel in your ranking of the Simulation Theory? If the argument that progress is logarithmic rather than linear is true, do your rankings remain the same?
@TheKivifreak
@TheKivifreak Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Tomviel
@Tomviel 11 ай бұрын
If you ever do a video like this again in the future, here are some ideas I would be interested to know your ranking of: panentheism, emanationism, metaphysical voluntarism, panpsychism, property dualism, eternal recurrence, vitalism, process philosophy (Whitehead), egoism (Stirner), cosmic nihilism (as opposed to individual nihilism that you addressed in this video), antinatalism, negative utilitarianism, umwelt, antirepresentationalism, rhizome, hyperreality.
@miguelfonseca1104
@miguelfonseca1104 3 ай бұрын
you a very sexy man
@eloualladioussama2104
@eloualladioussama2104 10 ай бұрын
Such an outstanding chanel for the popularization of philosophical concepts. I would like you to cover Ayn Rand's philosophy Thanks beforehand. Long live your Chanel..
@cjortiz
@cjortiz Жыл бұрын
For the edge lords, I'd expect Nihilism < Skepticism. We can use Skepticism to refute Nihilism (as a 'fallacy of composition'), and Skepticism unto itself can lead to a constructive Bayesian approach to epistemology, as typical for scientific, abductive reasoning that is 'good enough'.
@CjqNslXUcM
@CjqNslXUcM Жыл бұрын
Oh my god I disagree with so many points. I could probably argue for hours about this lol
@CjqNslXUcM
@CjqNslXUcM Жыл бұрын
I did enjoy this video though.
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 5 ай бұрын
I'd love to have a discussion about this.
@zeuscoleback
@zeuscoleback Жыл бұрын
Love it!
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ArmandD
@ArmandD Жыл бұрын
How long does it take you to animate your avatar?
@jonhansen679
@jonhansen679 Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that you have such a preference toward more religious leaning philosophy. Not a bad thing, just didn't expect it!
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 10 ай бұрын
He's curious about it. A lot of people are.
@daniellevy2272
@daniellevy2272 Жыл бұрын
There are qeuite a few arguments against determinism, but the simples one that breaks it it the mere existance of the Uncertainty Principle
@AndyAlegria
@AndyAlegria Жыл бұрын
I think determinism explains our actions at the macro/micro level and the Uncertainty Principle works on the quantum level which, to our knowledge, does not affect the chemical and electrical processes that affect thinking/decision making at the macro/micro level. Or has this connection been made?
@duffypratt
@duffypratt 10 ай бұрын
@@AndyAlegriaAnalogues to the uncertainty principle work at the macro level as well. Here’s one explained in one of Nassim Taleb’s books. One of the metaphors used to explain determinism compares the universe to a pool table. When a cue ball is struck, aimed at an object ball, the final position of the object ball is predetermined before the cue ball even hits it. Now, can we actually predict where object balls will end up? And what bout successive collisions between object balls? Here’s the summary from Taleb’s The Black Swan: If you know a set of basic parameters concerning the ball at rest, can compute the resistance of the table (quite elementary), and can gauge the strength of the impact, then it is rather easy to predict what would happen at the first hit. The second impact becomes more complicated, but possible; and more precision is called for. The problem is that to correctly computer the ninth impact, you need to take account the gravitational pull of someone standing next to the table (modestly, Berry’s computations use a weight of less than 150 pounds). And to compute the fifty-sixth impact, every single elementary particle in the universe needs to be present in your assumptions! An electron at the edge of the universe, separated from us by 10 billion light-years, must figure in the calculations, since it exerts a meaningful effect on the outcome. (p. 178) This means, as a practical matter, we will never be able to predict the final positions of the balls on a pool table when someone breaks a rack of balls. To know that would take a computer larger than the universe itself. There is a deep epistemological uncertainty to even very large facts, and this uncertainty can’t be overcome by our stubborn intuition that it must be otherwise. The position of the balls after a break in pool might be determined, but that idea is useless when it comes to betting on where the balls will actually end up. That cannot be known by humans.
@Aj-yu6ec
@Aj-yu6ec Жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
@AshtonMohr1
@AshtonMohr1 4 күн бұрын
The problem of evil is not a good argument in my opinion, it just depends on who is answering it. it doesn't really matter what we think is good or evil if we can't prove objective morality. I will go deeper on this if someone asks.
@GottfriedLeibnizYT
@GottfriedLeibnizYT Жыл бұрын
where would you place naturalized epistemology?
@alittax
@alittax Жыл бұрын
Hello. I'd like to ask you a question about 15:19, the continuity argument against Berkeley's idealism (ie why does a candle continue to burn when no one perceives it, or (and I think this is a more general statement) why does something that's in progress of changing continue to change when it's not observed). Why can't we counter this argument by saying that when one dreams during sleep, there can be dream candles, and it's possible to have an elaborate dream (maybe a lucid dream is necessary) where the dreamer leaves the candle for some amount of dream time, and when the dreamer returns, the candle has gotten smaller? Most people agree that a dream is purely mental, and only in the dreamer's mind, so if there's this continuity within one mental realm (the dream), why can't it be in another (ie the "real" world, where I wrote this comment and you're reading it)? Another possible counter argument is that in computer games, there's no continuity problem: if the player turns his back on an NPC who is headed towards a certain direction (therefore no one perceives the NPC, the NPC's image is not actively generated for the player to see it), and the player turns around and looks at the NPC again, then the NPC will have moved along the correct direction at the correct distance (just as if the player had not looked away at all). So if this is correct, there could be a similar mechanism in a purely mental model (of course, if idealism is true, computers are also completely mental, but this doesn't contradict this counter argument, but please correct me if I'm wrong). Do you think these counters work? What's the mistake if they don't? I'd be very interested and happy to read your response. I study philosophy as a hobby and I'm eager to learn as much as I can. Have a nice week.
@Opposite271
@Opposite271 Жыл бұрын
I think that the NPC is the electronic states in the computer while that what you are seeing on the screen is a mere representation of those processes. Therefore even if it doesn’t appear on the screen it still exists and is being processed. The same thing could be said about the candle, it could be seen as a representation of unconscious background processes which even continue if you don’t consciously experience it in the dream. So in both cases we need something beyond individual experience to account for the continuing processes.
@alittax
@alittax Жыл бұрын
​@@Opposite271 Yes, "unconscious background processes" would be analogous to "the electronic states in the computer." Since these kinds of processes are known to occur, they could serve as solutions to the continuity argument - at least I take it that's what you're also implying.
@tgrey_shift..mp334
@tgrey_shift..mp334 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!!
@davegibson79
@davegibson79 5 ай бұрын
Emotivism makes more sense than intuitionism. We decide if something is right or wrong because of the emotions it stirs in us. It's like in the KZfaq video when the leopard kills the baboon, but when it sees the orphaned baby baboon, it takes it into the trees and adopts it. The leopard kills because it is hungry and its emotions tell it to chase and hunt, but the same brain of the leopard tells it to have empathy when it sees a baby of another mammal. No abstract philosophy is needed to explain right and wrong in emotivism, just the biochemistry that animals have evolved, it doesn't require some universal morality to be innate just whatever our DNA and life experience cause us to react to, and it covers the flaw you mention in intuitionism that people will disagree about right and wrong, as humans have different DNA, perspectives, life experiences and pyschology. Philosophers and moral activists hate emotivism though as it seems to relugate us to mere organic animals, it clashes with the deontological ethics of most major religions, and it's not pretentious enough to write highly academic books about that makes the philosopher sound very smart and worthy of praise and financial reward.
@Callum-ul8ex
@Callum-ul8ex Жыл бұрын
I feel like our views on nihilism vastly differ. your examples of wizards and aliens don't change nihilism. Even if there was such things, they wouldn't add any value as they are still empirically evident things that are therefore impermanent and therefore have no lasting effect, hence worthless. In addition, those who see meaning through something rational like a God or a soul cannot prove such things others, making the language they convey their beliefs through meaningless, thus making anything both natural and supernatural equally inherently meaningless. So it's an S tier from me 👍
@christianwhite8877
@christianwhite8877 4 ай бұрын
For me it's kind of similar. Though also an argument against nihilism. Even if nothing matters there's still the fact that before the end of everything. Choices and morality (among other things) can have moments where they matter in the present. This also can apply to the past and mostlikely the future. So in a way if nihilism is correct then even the idea of nihilism is meaningless because things that matter in the moment can shape history which could lead to a way to create something permanent, which in turn makes all of that history have meaning and so on
@gavinferguson2938
@gavinferguson2938 3 ай бұрын
@@christianwhite8877 Meaning itself is a very subjective concept, nihilism was only considered dangerous by Nietzche because it signified the dominance of empiricism and of the scientific method within future societies. For him, nihilism would bring about a morally directionless society because it would lack the inhernat meaning which God had previously provided it with. However, I think Nieztche was wrong here, people dont derive meaning from God the same way that Atheists dont suddenly stop existing when they decide that there is no God or afterlife. "Meaning" in the sense that philosophers use the term, is used to describe the inherant value that a thing has in the empirical or transcendental world, but even if you believe that the first possesses none and the latter to not exist, it doesnt eliminate your ability to find things meaningful nontheless even if such a behaviour is irrational. The truth is, human beings possess an element of irrationality within them and as such we tend to find things meaningful regardless of the actual existence of such a quality. This is why the existential philosophies were so succesful in their time because they made people recognize the innate subjectivity of the term "meaning" within the philosophical context, for many this term was previously used to describe the value that God had provided them with. Now we understand it in emotional or personally subjective terms as opposed to objective ones.
@beefwellington2945
@beefwellington2945 Жыл бұрын
Love this vid
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@timraiser4811
@timraiser4811 Жыл бұрын
how do you put Aristotle's Theory of Causation in B whilst putting Nihilism in E. These are opposites and so they should be the same category. 1 can't be proven without disproving the other one.
@Akkodha.
@Akkodha. Жыл бұрын
i didn’t know what leibniz’s argument was but when i saw the name i thought it would be about how does an omnipotent god create such a flawed world and expected a semi high placement so i kinda zoned out until i saw it was f and realized it was the exact opposite of what i thought…
@JohnnieWalkerGreen
@JohnnieWalkerGreen Ай бұрын
You should add a link to "Philosophy Tier List Part 2 - Another 25 Philosophy theories and ideas ranked." too! 😃
@saintanthonyofpadua290
@saintanthonyofpadua290 Жыл бұрын
Love your work, lost me on Patheism because there are very good objections against it but overall very nice
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Joseph-fw6xx
@Joseph-fw6xx Жыл бұрын
Determinism is something that I'm not sure about I believe in some sort of compatibleism u have free will but yet thoughts pop into your head that u don't control of or might not want to think about
@muhammadshahedkhanshawon3785
@muhammadshahedkhanshawon3785 Жыл бұрын
Do you think our universe is contingent or it's necessary?
@TianXia-qh5uu
@TianXia-qh5uu Жыл бұрын
In fact, Mackie didn't reject all moral theories's truth, but rather those which purport to be objective. He first establishes that all of our moral statements purport to be objective, but in reality, none of them are (so we are making an error when we think talk and act as if they are objective). In this sense, Mackie would contend that first-order moral discourses are real and observable, but the second-order moral facts/moral values don’t exist because when we believe that moral facts are real, we are generally mistaken.
@arpitkumar4525
@arpitkumar4525 Жыл бұрын
I am disappointed you didn't rate Taoism. I would rate it a solid A. I live by it. I have to because I get too conscious
@lee7701
@lee7701 4 ай бұрын
Think Tao, speak Dao
@ashrayaupadhyaya4931
@ashrayaupadhyaya4931 10 ай бұрын
Best channel !
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe 10 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@NovicebutPassionate
@NovicebutPassionate 4 ай бұрын
As a philosophy enthusiast, I give this video an "S" - indubitably. Feels like in thirty minutes I earned a degree in philosophy. Thank you, Charles Georgiou, and happy 10th anniversary Philosophy Vibe - a home for deep thinkers!
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much :D
@daniellevy2272
@daniellevy2272 Жыл бұрын
Just my personal opinion but I would literally switch the S and F tiers lol EDIT: Aside from Plato's Cave
@jakobklaerke951
@jakobklaerke951 Жыл бұрын
Really? Even Plato’s cave? 🧐
@daniellevy2272
@daniellevy2272 Жыл бұрын
@@jakobklaerke951 oh, my mistake, aside from Plato's cave, you're right
@chocolateneko9912
@chocolateneko9912 Жыл бұрын
I agree, natural law and virtue ethics should be higher up as well.
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 10 ай бұрын
Why is Skeptism at the top?
@lucasrodrigues238
@lucasrodrigues238 5 ай бұрын
Lol you actually nailed it putting 3 of my main philosophies on the S tier. Truly a smart guy. The problem of Evil is actually B tier. Put in Idealism in its place lol.
@eklektikTubb
@eklektikTubb 6 ай бұрын
The main problem with determinism and skepticism is that they can have negative impact on people. Determinism can lead to hopelessness, pasivity and "why even try" approach and skepticism can lead to some irational hypocricies, such as having faith in doubt or being absolutly certain about uncertainty. However, i do believe that knowing these negative impacts may help us to prevent them. Tell determinists to keep trying and tell skeptics to avoid being hypocritical/self-refuting and the problem should be solved (or at least minimized).
@skullnetwork4482
@skullnetwork4482 Жыл бұрын
Where was contingency argument
@das.gegenmittel
@das.gegenmittel 10 ай бұрын
Skepticism on F is sooo funny because it just shows so clearly the misunderstanding of knowledge. You will see.
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 10 ай бұрын
The fact that you put the problem of evil in S tier is so strange to me sense I was never the least bit swayed by that argument as a Christian.
@gabrielethier2046
@gabrielethier2046 10 ай бұрын
Plenty are and it even makes sense intuitively, but its not as if there are no arguments against it
@natebozeman4510
@natebozeman4510 Жыл бұрын
I do think you underrated all of the arguments for God, but I guess it made sense when I saw the PoE/Pantheism in S tier. If you read into the teleological argument, you'll see the power of it. It really is compelling, and appeals to infinity are not enough to dodge it. Overall, a great tier lost though!
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Thanks glad you enjoyed :)
@Raven-ne9cg
@Raven-ne9cg Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the problem of evil is S tier. It’s been refuted.
@Opposite271
@Opposite271 Жыл бұрын
I would be interested in hearing the refutation.
@miguelatkinson
@miguelatkinson Жыл бұрын
Yes what is your refution of the problem of evil.
@melchior2678
@melchior2678 Жыл бұрын
@@miguelatkinson the problem of evil only applies to religions that claim their god is both omnipotent and omni benevolent. Therefore it is inadequate and extremely limited in scope.
@cjortiz
@cjortiz Жыл бұрын
George, please comment on your considerations of Pantheism in the context of the Euthyphro Dilemma. I'd expect that which God (or Nature) commands to be the emergent structures and properties that are constructive, and introducing higher complexity, antifragility, and revealing a deeper meaning. Humanity participates as dissipative structures within nature, and by living in accordance with nature, we can discover deeper meanings as we develop and sustain systems which preserve the health of the biosphere. As such, 'what nature commands' is not limited to the laws of physics or amoral natural selection, but a project which humanity (and other highly intelligent creatures) can participate in. I think this leads to Aristotle 's conception of the good as that which all things aim at: a strictly dominant 'will to meaning'.
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Interesting, this might have to be a video in itself.
@pragmaticclarity3034
@pragmaticclarity3034 Жыл бұрын
I'd put Emotivism D, Nihilism at F, Pantheism at A or B, Existentialism at C, Moral Reletavism at C, Transcidental idealism at S, Functionalism at A, Error Theory at D, and Deontology to A. Maybe simulation down one, but other than that I'd agree for the most part with the list.
@samuelcharles7642
@samuelcharles7642 11 ай бұрын
Why nihilism at F?
@pragmaticclarity3034
@pragmaticclarity3034 11 ай бұрын
@@samuelcharles7642 Because Nihilism almost always becomes self-defeating. Even in the more specific senses, but generally its just a untenable position.
@samuelcharles7642
@samuelcharles7642 11 ай бұрын
@@pragmaticclarity3034 Yes I understand where you’re coming from. I personally don’t see it that way
@pragmaticclarity3034
@pragmaticclarity3034 11 ай бұрын
@@samuelcharles7642 Thats fine, that's just my reasoning
@alexisnellum1252
@alexisnellum1252 Жыл бұрын
How come stoicism is not on here?
@Akkodha.
@Akkodha. Жыл бұрын
your ideas make me imagine you as me except instead of being me you’re a more advanced version of me because i am 15 and have similar ideas to what you have :P
@0x400Bogdan
@0x400Bogdan Жыл бұрын
Why no Heidegger and Deleuze?
@HATSUCHl
@HATSUCHl Жыл бұрын
You are cool but, my favorite character is the guy in the purple shirt. More of the guy in purple shirt , let’s goooo
@sdlkfjhasiodf1477
@sdlkfjhasiodf1477 Жыл бұрын
I would'nt put the problem of evil on the s layer. Without shadow there is no light and as humans we understand our world through comparison and if evil did not exist we would not understand many of the feelings associated with overcoming those evils, which are sometimes the strongest and most character shaping feelings. There is also a difference in how evil is defined by the observer and by the person who experiences that evil. What is seen as evil may shape the person who lives through it, what would Cinderella be without her two evil stepsisters, just a happy horse girl? I am not a proponent of evil, but on a philosophical basis it can be said, that evil, ultimately does not seem to be necessary, but by experiencing it, i.e. tasting it, or just knowing that it exists, it changes us.
@AndyAlegria
@AndyAlegria Жыл бұрын
Your argument seems to suggest that understanding good and evil is necessary for specific feelings. My answer is, so what? Those feelings aren't necessary. Trees and bacteria and wasps (some would say) survive and even thrive without these specific feelings. I'd argue that a certain level of free will could be achieved without the feelings you speak of. So evil is not absolutely necessary for a successful life because the feelings they generate (or our understanding of them) is not necessary.
@melchior2678
@melchior2678 Жыл бұрын
@@AndyAlegria comparing the human experience to trees and bacteria is laughable to say the least.
@AndyAlegria
@AndyAlegria Жыл бұрын
@@melchior2678 Why is it laughable? Trees, cats, and humans are all living creatures. I'm not likening the experiences of trees, cats, and humans; I suggest that they are different but equally successful. Humans are certainly unique in experiencing and understanding good and evil, but plenty of plants and animals live successful lives without it, so it's not necessary. The OP suggests that Cinderella could not experience a happy life without the experience of her evil sisters (and understanding that evil). I say that a cat, which displays free will and even signs of happiness, does not require knowledge of good and evil to do so.
@Raven28Pisces
@Raven28Pisces Жыл бұрын
What about post modernism?
@wildbison3168
@wildbison3168 Жыл бұрын
Good job👌👌
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stanieldaniel5912
@stanieldaniel5912 6 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this video. But I think I got more enjoyment from my disagreements than my agreements, haha. I think you were particularly unfair to Nihilism and Existentialism, despite ranking their derivative ideologies higher. I also think you give too much credit to Plato, ignoring how unfounded his active truth claims were. Especially since Skepticism is just the Allegory of the Cave but without the ridiculous premise that there exists a perfect world of ideals which he had no evidence for, yet you ranked them on bottom and top respectively. I also think you give too much credit to Pantheism, and I'd argue that atheists and theists do agree on pantheism, but they both agree that its silly, because that's not what "God" means. Nonetheless I enjoyed the video
@mertonhirsch4734
@mertonhirsch4734 10 ай бұрын
The universe isn't a watch or a phone, but it contains watches and phones, so whatever made the universe made all the watches and phones too. Also wanted to mention, the multiverse model places a minimum on the amount of versions of reality in our manifold universe at 2^183!. That's pretty near omnipotent. There should be beings in some of those that can create universes from quantum fluctuations or travel from between versions of the multiverse etc. etc. IF there's no multiverse, then the only alternate allowed by physics (so far) is that our universe is definitely non-deterministic and while it could be totally random, it would be impossible to distinguish randomness from free will at all scales. Another model might be that there is a multiverse manifold in theory, and that free will is simply determining which one we are conscious in, or paying attention too.
@FergusScotchman
@FergusScotchman 9 ай бұрын
I was disappointed at the F for Hume. Imo, there is great value in a proof for uncertainty, and Hume uses a kind of math-based philosophical method. I look at that insight as a mathematical proof, so to speak. And guess what? The most advanced areas being worked on in physics relate to quantum mechanics and the Uncertainty Principle. To me, that's a significant insight of that time.
@highmedic2351
@highmedic2351 4 ай бұрын
Determinism is what Sartre would call bad faith.
@TheHologram3299
@TheHologram3299 Жыл бұрын
The pantheism take is bizarre ngl
@christianwhite8877
@christianwhite8877 4 ай бұрын
It is a bizarre belief. Though it does answer a few questions about some stuff
@TheLincolnrailsplitt
@TheLincolnrailsplitt 11 ай бұрын
Thamks for producing this engaging video. I suspect you are a skeptical, deterministic, Darwinian, atheist. 🤔😁
@itisinitself
@itisinitself Жыл бұрын
Thanks, friends for your help in understanding all the ideology out there.♥🧡💛💚💙💗💜🤎💯🖤
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
You're welcome, thanks for watching.
@Opposite271
@Opposite271 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that „god is omniscient therefore determinism“ is a S-tier argument. Theists have limited gods omnipotence to what is logically possible so they just have to limit god’s omniscience so that he only knows about what exists and then they can make the following argument. -God knows everything about what exists. -The future doesn’t exist. (Presentism or growing block) -The present does not completely determine the future. (Indeterminism) -Therefore god doesn’t know everything about the future. He only knows likely outcomes. But besides that, how could we even make sense about knowing something about something that doesn’t exist? Even when it comes to god, I struggle to make sense of it, therefore it seems to be a reasonable view. So the theist just has then to accept either (presentism or growing block) and indeterminism.
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 5 ай бұрын
Wait so... Open Theism?
@WisdomisPower-10inminute-dn5no
@WisdomisPower-10inminute-dn5no 7 ай бұрын
🚀 'Philosophy Tier List - 35 Philosophy theories &amp; ideas ranked' is just scratching the surface. Dive deeper into the rabbit hole on my channel where we question everything.
@williampennjr.4448
@williampennjr.4448 10 ай бұрын
where did you get that definition for nihilism? Its not an idea that the universe is pointless. It's the idea that nothing is real because you cant trust your senses. it's where "I think therefore I am" comes from. It definitely belongs in the S tier because its impossible to argue against. All I have is my senses to know reality so how can I prove anything is real without them?
@pog519
@pog519 Жыл бұрын
When you realize that no theories about the existence of the abrahamic god even make it into A/S and the ones that do make it into A/S are either in opposition of it, or are neutral towards it :D
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 10 ай бұрын
All theories about his existence can only get you a little bit closer. I don't believe just because of the theory but because Christianity is based on an historical event.
@greatedges
@greatedges 7 ай бұрын
@@avivastudios2311...as seen through a male perspective.
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 7 ай бұрын
@@greatedges wut? 🤨
@rc7625
@rc7625 6 ай бұрын
@@avivastudios2311 So is Islam and Buddhism. And?
@miguelfonseca1104
@miguelfonseca1104 3 ай бұрын
ontological argument is easily S tier, its no just anselm, basically, all of continental rationalism and the german idealism presuppose it in one way or another
@luyombojonathan6688
@luyombojonathan6688 3 ай бұрын
No philosophy of language theories ?? Any way I agree with your list
@Rspknlikeab0ssxd
@Rspknlikeab0ssxd Жыл бұрын
I came to this video hoping Berkeley's idealism would not be put below a B, and so, I'm glad to see Berkeley's idealism not below a B!
@SteepDescent
@SteepDescent Жыл бұрын
situation ethics is the most clear f tier ever.
@duffypratt
@duffypratt 10 ай бұрын
Interesting that you dismiss Hume’s skepticism by saying What’s the point? But you don’t ask the same question about Determinism. The point of Skepticism is that it undermines determinism. It also has led to useful consequences, like Poppers ideas on science and falsification, or even the modern warning, seen everywhere that correlation is not equal to causation. Overall, I enjoyed this, but it seems much stronger on religion and moral philosophy, and weaker on metaphysics and epistemology.
@Antonio-ep4no
@Antonio-ep4no Жыл бұрын
@Philosophy Vibe Really good video but I don’t think the Problem of Evil is S tier, probably c or d tier. I watched your video on it and it seems all your problems with all the theodicies come down to how you prioritise your own understanding - e.g what it means for God to be omniscient or benevolent or omnipotent. God has to agree with how you think, or he cannot exist at all. What is the problem if an infinite Creator exists and operates in a way that does not conform to your finite understanding? The doctrine of revelation tells us that we cannot work out God on our own, and we need to have him revealed to us.
@AndyAlegria
@AndyAlegria Жыл бұрын
I think you are basically arguing for Leibniz's Best of All Possible Worlds. Problem of Evil basically comes down to the argument that, for all the reasons that theists claim evil must exist, athiests argue that those reasons could still be met with a little less "evil" in the world. If the only thing different in the world was that there wasn't child cancer, or there weren't wasps whose larva ate ladybugs alive from the inside out, all the reasons that theists say evil exist would still be valid and effective; therefore, the world is more evil than necessary. You're argument is obviously that we can't know what is necessary; God would not have a child die of cancer, or a ladybug die of wasp, unless it led to a greater good. Then what about intuition? God wrote morality on our hearts, according to the Bible. You say that murder is evil and most people, theist and athiest, can agree by intuition. You say that child cancer is for the greater good and most people will instinctively, intuitively reject that statement. Child cancer feels as bad as (if not worse than) murder. The fact that so many theists say the equivalent of "God, I'm sure you know what you're doing, but why me or mine" indicates how unintuitive the current level of evil seems to us. This amount of evil is NOT written on our hearts. If the only evil that existed was that caused by free-will, I might argue that it would still be enough for whatever theological reasons evil must exist. I heard the theory that God created the world with so much evil so that humans can improve themselves (their souls) by overcoming that evil. So many different kinds of evil offer so many opportunities to rise to the occasion given your skills and preferences. This, to me, sounds like the premise of a villain, not the most loving entity in the universe.
@Antonio-ep4no
@Antonio-ep4no Жыл бұрын
@@AndyAlegria ​ I’m more saying that through God being omniscient there are methods that he knows that we do not. Of course that statement relies on the premise you already believe in God, and it does not justify ceaseless evil. That is the purpose of the doctrine of revelation (which resembles Plato’s allegory of the cave, which is also S tier). How can you use finite logic to determine the characteristics of something explicitly infinite? How can those who only see shadows know what sunlight looks like? My own knowledge spans across 18 years, but scripture spans across millennium of tradition. The problem of evil relies on the very concept of ‘evil’ which is created majorly by the bible. Regardless of intuition, how can we know the intricacies of good and evil. Child cancer is a straw man and is clearly bad, but how have we catergorised this as evil? Is it not simply a course of life? And furthermore, what about those things which are considered evil by some and good by others? The problem of evil is a nuanced concept conceived by the bible itself, which has been distorted and simplified to negate it. But because many evils are subjective to the individual, how can it be a ‘problem’? The bible clearly offers the solution of Christ.
@AndyAlegria
@AndyAlegria Жыл бұрын
@@Antonio-ep4no Thank you for your response. I can't speak for others but I think the Problem of Evil is not about "evil" as defined in the Bible but about unnecessary suffering, which I call "evil" because it is 99% universally undesired. God could kill people any number of ways that are fast and low pain. Why would a perfectly good God, the most loving of all entities, inflict Ebola on someone when a heart attack, stroke, or falling boulder would do the trick? Unnecessary suffering and a tri-omni God cannot co-exist in my understanding of the two. Your response to my "unnecessary suffering" argument, based on your previous post, is probably that God has a reason for Ebola that we don't know or cannot comprehend. An all-knowing, all-powerful God who wants us to love and believe in him could make us know and understand. It is illogical to not do otherwise. God supposedly gave us free will so that we could choose to follow God. Free will works best with good information. A choice made when one or both options are a mystery isn't a free will choice, it's a coin flip. If God were imperfect (good or evil), Ebola makes sense. If there is no God and Ebola developed through evolution, Ebola makes sense. A tri-omni God refuses to illuminate my free will choice with critical information about why an all good, all loving God allows the completely unreasonable suffering of Ebola? Not logical, not intuitive, and counter to my impression of the tri-omni God's persona.
@miguelatkinson
@miguelatkinson Жыл бұрын
​​@@Antonio-ep4no the problem of child cancer is natural evil and also if an omnipotent and omniscient being existed and wanted us to understand it why give us such limited knowledge to begin with if you want someone to understand you why not explain to them in a way they would understand you and considering why didn't god just give us his infinite knowledge so we could understand his actions in such a way where wouldn't need to have to debate it and you clearly misunderstood the problem of evil the reason why he pointed out the children dying of cancer is because it's unnecessary evil the problem of evil addresses why evil even exists in the first place why would an all-loving god even let such a thing even exist to begin with because if all evil is just cauesd by free will why have natural disasters why have. disease and you mention that the bible tactals the problem of evil can you demonstrate this please and you also said christ is the solution to this how so what solution has christ offer to end suffering or evil because if it was their it would have already been dealt with this just seems like a co-opt and also see you said it isn't a problem yes because those children starving in Africa is not a problem at all.
@johnburke568
@johnburke568 Жыл бұрын
Maybe consciousness is a gift within a deterministic universe that needs to be given away willingly in acceptance and in faith. And that’s the point of it all. Become back part of the whole willingly?
@mbmurphy777
@mbmurphy777 Ай бұрын
But determinism directly implies nihilism. So why is one an A the other an E?
@Techdestroyer-vc9ui
@Techdestroyer-vc9ui Ай бұрын
No, that's not the case. While determinism posits that events are causally determined, it does not inherently imply that life lacks meaning or purpose. One can argue that even in a deterministic framework, human actions and decisions contribute to the causal chain and thus have significance.
@mbmurphy777
@mbmurphy777 Ай бұрын
@@Techdestroyer-vc9ui well, determinism also implies that humans are nothing more than molecules in motion, consciousness is an illusion, we don’t make choices, therefore we’re not responsible for any of our achievements or any crimes. In that situation, ethical pronouncements lose any meaning because when you say, someone ought to do action X in situation Y, it implies that you could’ve done something else. But things can only happen one way in a deterministic universe. It’s pretty hard to extract any meaning or value in that situation. In fact, there really is no “you“ in a deterministic universe since you’re just molecules in motion, your sense of being an agent is an illusion, and every action, thought, desire, you have had or ever will have was determined by the laws of physics and initial conditions set at the Big Bang. I think in that situation, you are basically stuck with either nihilism or absurdism. Absurdism basically is a form of nihilism anyway.
@mertonhirsch4734
@mertonhirsch4734 10 ай бұрын
Determinism isn't quite opposite of free will. The universe could be probabilistic but still not allow agency. Again, how about the idea that the manifold of reality is deterministic, but which path we are conscious of varies.
@neverbackdown1918
@neverbackdown1918 Жыл бұрын
Determinism should be S tier. You could make the same emotional argument that humans do not have some divine purpose and that might hurt to some, but none the less, it’s probably true, and does not take away from the merit of the argument itself.
@boxingjerapah
@boxingjerapah Жыл бұрын
Theological Determinism as "S" ? Seriously ? It might be internally consistent, but that's about all you can say for it. It's basically about as convincing as the ontological argument for the existence of god.
@cjortiz
@cjortiz Жыл бұрын
For the normative ethics, I'd expect Utilitarianism < Value Theory < Deontology < Virtue Ethics, corresponding to an increased rational capacity. Unconscious cells, bacteria, plants, and animals follow Utilitarianism, and people have autonomic nervous systems to do it in their sleep. Mammals and other creatures who are more influenced by 'kin selection' tend to participate in 'cultural evolution', improvising simple tools and rituals which can be constructive (or if destructive, these rituals are self-inhibiting as these tribes tend to self-destruct). Intelligent people outgrow tribalism by Deontological maxims which value everyone equally as a 'Kingdom of Ends', leveraging abstraction to hypothesize and assess imagined consequences to their choices. Wise sages can apply game theory to discover strategies that are strictly dominant, and thus employ a 'good-enough' model as guided by the Cardinal Virtues (as further detailed by Socrates in Plato's Republic and the Stoics). I'd argue that there exists a certain amount of overlap among the functional components of {Utilitarianism, Value Theory, and Deontology}, and that these are the bounds in which Virtue Ethics resides.
@trextraining7116
@trextraining7116 Жыл бұрын
Love the new stuff, but want to know if John is okay? We need proof of life, lol.
@PhilosophyVibe
@PhilosophyVibe Жыл бұрын
He is fine, we'll be releasing an educational video soon :)
@daniellevy2272
@daniellevy2272 Жыл бұрын
I mean the Problem of Evil belongs in the F tier... it almost begs the question in the sense that it is trying to apply human reasonings and morals into G-d's mind, which is absurd to begin with, isn't it? It is a convincing arguemnt only if you look at it from an amotional sympethetic perspecrive, but once you start to break down the logic of it, it assumes the one asking to be a perfect all-knowing being and is one of the easiest argumemts to fight against
@chocolateneko9912
@chocolateneko9912 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone else realise the issues with the problem of evil, however I think it should be B tier at most and E tier at least. In my opinion the argument while not being the best is still worth looking into to more deeply understand theological ethics
@miguelatkinson
@miguelatkinson Жыл бұрын
I don't think you get it why if and omnipoten,omnibenelovenet,omniscient being create a universe filled with evil and also if it us applying human reasoning and morals to God then it is not possible to call God good in this case because our understanding is very limited
@melchior2678
@melchior2678 Жыл бұрын
@@miguelatkinson cherry picking
@philv2529
@philv2529 11 ай бұрын
Regarding what you said about why explain solipsism bec who are you explaining it to, i had a dream where i was in my living room with my mom and there was a pool in it and then a bunch of cats dived into it and started swimming around in circles under the water. After a while i thought wow they have been down there for a long time shouldn't they have to come up for air? And then i realized, wait a minute, i don't have a pool in my living room tjis is a dream! And then my mom said, no it isn't. And then i said yes it is look ill prove it to you. And i levitated in the air. And then my mom said, that doesn't prove anything i can do that too. But she herself did NOT levitate. And then i said, wait a minute. If i know this is a dream, then why am i arguing with you?!
@AgonizedCandle
@AgonizedCandle Жыл бұрын
Nihilism lacks imagination but it seems to be accurate. We all die and we stay dead forever. Arguments against existential nihilism always sound like wishful thinking to me. I'm not a theist but the free will argument seems to win against the problem of evil. Inspiring Philosophy's video on the subject is quite good.
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 10 ай бұрын
Glad I'm a Christian.
@AgonizedCandle
@AgonizedCandle 10 ай бұрын
@@avivastudios2311 Same. Recently converted.
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 10 ай бұрын
@@AgonizedCandle What do you think of the problem of evil?
@joev3512
@joev3512 Жыл бұрын
Pantheism S tier? You gotta be joking, kind sir!
@scottsponaas
@scottsponaas Жыл бұрын
If determinism were true, there would be no such thing as a “convincing argument” you would have been forced to rank it as you did. The very fact that you weighed the pros and cons and selected as you did makes that a performative contradiction. Additionally, if determinism were true, there would be no point in arguing at all. You would be forced to believe what you believe, and everyone else would be forced to do the same. There would be nothing right or wrong about any action. Nobody could control their behavior.
@qntkka
@qntkka Жыл бұрын
None of that negates determinism. Even your rejection of determinism could be determined and you can still argue and end up with a determined result. If you want to argue against determinism you might want to focus on theoretical tachyons and the First Cause. I personally believe that determinism is impossible because a First Cause is impossible, unless a First Cause came from nothing. Rock On!
@scottsponaas
@scottsponaas Жыл бұрын
@@qntkka it absolutely negates an argument for determinism. If a person claims that they were convinced by an argument that determinism is true, they are refuting themselves. That is literally claiming to have weighed the evidence and chosen which one they found most convincing. At best they can only claim that their brain is making them believe it, in which case they are admitting their view is not based on reason. If they are trying to change someone’s mind by argumentation, it is a performative contradiction. They are claiming to believe one thing while demonstrating that they believe the exact opposite. Either way, it’s a violation of the law of non-contradiction. It is unreasonable/illogical by definition.
@CjqNslXUcM
@CjqNslXUcM Жыл бұрын
@@scottsponaas Reason is the application of logic, which itself is determinist. Metaphysical libertarianism is not a prerequisite of reason at all. You can very easily be determined to use faux-libertarian language. Determinism can absolutely encompass any action of a person who believes in determinism without contradiction, even if their actions and beliefs ane contradictory.
@scottsponaas
@scottsponaas Жыл бұрын
@@CjqNslXUcM it’s clear to me that you didn’t actually read what I wrote, but instead just disagreed without actually presenting an argument. Again, if determinism were true, there would be no way for anyone to know it. You would just be programmed to believe what the chemicals in your brain told you to and I would just be programmed to believe what I believe. There would be no ability to weigh the evidence for and against (reasoning) and freely choose which made more sense. The chemicals in our brain would just choose for us. I’s like to point out how on one hand you started your comment by acknowledging that reason is the application of logic, but then you ended your comment by asserting that a person can violate the law of non-contradiction (a law of logic) and still have a logical position. If I were to claim that I believe that it’s wrong to type sentences in English, I would clearly be demonstrating that I don’t actually believe that. It would be a performative contradiction. Just like claiming that you find the argument for determinism to be convincing…
@CjqNslXUcM
@CjqNslXUcM Жыл бұрын
@@scottsponaas ​Read my comment more carefully. First I assert, that coming to a logical conclusion is a deterministic process. If you were to feed a computer logical laws and propositions, it could output valid conclusions. A computer could affirm determinism. A determinist would argue that a brain is as predetermined as a computer. Next I assert that using faux-libertarian language, like "I thought about it and find determinism convincing" doesn't mean one affirms libertarianism, because the propositional attitude might be that I realize that the proposition comes from a deterministic process in the brains that weighs all of the premises and arguments and comes to a predetermined conclusion. Even if you were to believe in determinism, you couldn't see the future or access your unconscious, so using faux-libertarian language is still the most appropriate way to communicate brain states. A determinist would claim that both brains mechanistically outputted differing propositions on determinism, even if one of the brains is determined to believe that his beliefs are not determined. This means you couldn't disprove determinism to a determinist by performative contradiction. Even if we assume that a determinist agrees that the performative contradiction argument is successful, that doesn't entail that determinism is false. There's a good video on Kane B's channel called "In Praise of Self-Refutation". Unless all of your premises are impeccable a priori analytic truths, self-refutation doesn't disprove an argument.
@siddharth2213
@siddharth2213 Жыл бұрын
Does this classify as vtuber
@lokwidator
@lokwidator 7 ай бұрын
Where is Stoicism? :o
@willieluncheonette5843
@willieluncheonette5843 10 ай бұрын
“I am not a philosopher. The philosopher thinks about things. It is a mind approach. My approach is a no-mind approach. It is just the very opposite of philosophizing. It is not thinking about things, ideas, but seeing with a clarity which comes when you put your mind aside, when you see through silence, not through logic. Seeing is not thinking. “The sun rises there; if you think about it you miss it, because while you are thinking about it, you are going away from it. In thinking you can move miles away; and thoughts go faster than anything possible. If you are seeing the sunrise then one thing has to be certain, that you are not thinking about it. Only then can you see it. “Thinking becomes a veil on the eyes. It gives its own color, its own idea to the reality. It does not allow reality to reach you, it imposes itself upon reality; it is a deviation from reality. Hence no philosopher has ever been able to know the truth. “All the philosophers have been thinking about the truth. But thinking about the truth is an impossibility. Either you know it, or you don't. If you know it, there is no need to think about it. If you don't, then how can you think about it? “A philosopher thinking about truth is just like a blind man thinking about light. If you have eyes, you don't think about light, you see it. Seeing is a totally different process; it is a byproduct of meditation. “Hence I would not like my way of life to be ever called a philosophy, because it has nothing to do with philosophy. You can call it philosia. The word ‘philo’ means love; ‘sophy’ means wisdom, knowledge - love for knowledge. In philosia, ‘philo’ means the same love, and ‘sia’ means seeing: love, not for knowledge but for being - not for wisdom, but for experiencing.” Philosophy Is the Worst Wastage of Human Intelligence that Is Possible “I am not a philosopher. The philosopher thinks about the truth. His approach is rational. Reason is his instrument, and here just the opposite is the case. I am an irrational man. And the people who have gathered around me - around the world - the appeal to them is my irrationality, because reason has failed so utterly. For three thousand years in the West, ten thousand years in the East, philosophers have been struggling to find the truth, and not a single philosopher has been able to find it. “The way of philosophy does not go with truth at all. It is just rational gymnastics. So one philosopher can argue against another philosopher, and they go on arguing for centuries, but they have not come to agreement on a single point. Philosophy is the worst wastage of human intelligence that is possible. When I say I am not a philosopher, I simply mean that my approach towards reality is not through the head, it is through the heart. “I also say that I do not preach a religion because religion is something like love - you cannot teach it. There is no way to teach love, and if you teach love and somebody becomes trained under your teachings, he may go to Hollywood and become an actor, but he will never become a lover. Your very teaching, your very discipline will be the barrier. So I say I don't teach religion. Religion is something that passes heart to heart, not head to head. The moment religion passes head to head, it becomes theology. It is no more religion.” “There has been a contemporary school of philosophy in Europe called existentialism. I have nothing to do with it. That is only a philosophy, a mind game. These people were talking about existence, but they knew nothing of what it means to be existential. I also use the word 'existentialist' for myself, but the difference between Jean-Paul Sartre, Jaspers, Marcel, and me is vast, unbridgeable. “When I say I am an existentialist, I am not saying that I believe in the philosophy of existentialism. “Birds don’t need philosophy, flowers don’t need philosophy, rivers and oceans don’t need philosophy - but they are all existential; they exist, and they exist with totality and intensity. “I am not a philosopher. To be a philosopher is just to be a 'foolosopher.' It is a sheer waste of time. Down the centuries philosophers have been struggling intellectually to find the truth. Not a single one of them has found it, for the simple reason that intellect and its way goes round and round, about and about, but it never penetrates to the center. “To love, you do not have to be a philosopher of love. Love needs no philosophy; love is an existential experience.” The Most Useless Activity in the World Is Philosophy “Philosophy has not reached to any conclusion and it will never reach - it is an exercise in utter futility. It is a good game if you want to play an intellectual game, an intellectual gymnastics; it is hair splitting. “But I am not interested in it at all - and I know it from the inside: I have been a student of philosophy and a professor of philosophy too. I know it as an insider that the most useless activity in the world is philosophy, the most uncreative, the most pretentious - but very ego-fulfilling, gives you great ideas of knowledgeability without making you wise at all.” Why are you so much against philosophy? “Philosophy means mind, philosophy means thinking, philosophy means going away from yourself. Philosophy is the art of losing yourself in thoughts, becoming identified with dreams. Hence I am against philosophy, because I am all for religion. “You cannot be philosophical if you want to be religious; that is not possible. Religion is existential, philosophy is intellectual. Philosophy is about and about, religion is direct. Philosophy is thinking about things you don't know. Religion is a knowing, not thinking. Philosophy depends on doubt, because the more you can doubt the more you can think. Doubt is the mother of thinking. “Religion is trust, because the more you trust the more there is no need to think. Trust kills thinking; in trust, thinking commits suicide. And when there is no thinking and trust pulsates in your being, in each pore of your being trust permeates you, overwhelms you, you know what is. “Philosophy tries to know, but never knows. Religion never tries to know, but knows. Philosophy is an exercise in futility, of futility. Yes, it talks about great things - freedom, love, God, meditation - but it only talks about. The philosopher never meditates. He talks about meditation, he spins and weaves theories, hypotheses, inferences about meditation, but he never tastes anything about meditation. He never meditates. “Hegel, Kant - these are philosophers; Buddha, Kabir - these are not philosophers; Plato, Aristotle - these are philosophers; Heraclitus, Plotinus - these are not philosophers, although in the books of philosophy they are also called philosophers. They are not! To use the word 'philosopher' for them is not right, unless you change the whole meaning of the word. Aristotle and Heraclitus cannot be called philosophers in the same sense. If Aristotle is a philosopher, then Heraclitus is not; if Heraclitus is a philosopher, then Aristotle is not. “I use a totally different word, 'philosia', instead of philosophy. Philosophy means, literally, linguistically, love for knowledge. Philosia means love for seeing, not only for knowledge. Knowledge is not enough for the real enquirer; he wants to see. He does not want to contemplate on God, he wants to encounter God. He wants to hold His hand in his own hands, he wants to hug and kiss God! He is not satisfied with the concept of God. How can the concept be of any help? “When you are thirsty you cannot be satisfied by the formula H2O. Howsoever right it is - that is not my concern, that is irrelevant - right or wrong, the formula H2O cannot quench your thirst. You would like water, and whether you know about H2O or not does not matter. For millions of years man has been drinking water without knowing anything about H2O, and it has been perfectly satisfying. “Philosophy talks about water, religion drinks.”
@lee7701
@lee7701 4 ай бұрын
Wisdom is infinite and the answer to any question will always have another question attached to it and you will go round in circles but I find it more rewarding than watching someone do a strange dance on TikTok I suppose.
@some____qone8579
@some____qone8579 Жыл бұрын
13:37 Without evil there can be no good, and if there can be no good there can be no god. How do you define evil when you say there is no good?
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 10 ай бұрын
I would say this: there is evil because evil is not a thing. Evil is simply a lack of goodness. For example being generous is giving and being selfish is refusing to ever give. So evil is more like something that takes away from good than an existing thing at all. If goodness is the ground then evil is a deep hole - it only takes away. To me evil is the absence of goodness. It is what God isn't.
@chuzzles
@chuzzles 6 ай бұрын
where is dialectical materialism , seems karl deserves a separate own space out of some tierlist , op karl , lu my guy
@DeftilSteve
@DeftilSteve 2 ай бұрын
Way too hard on skepticism! It's a compelling epistemological argument. Lazy to put it in F tier I think, as well as Nihilism in E tier. You seemed to put them there because they don't make you feel good rather than on the strength of the supporting arguments. You didn't really argue against either. And surprising that you put solipsism so high. I see solipsism as a type of skepticism.
@benjo6652
@benjo6652 Жыл бұрын
As someone who adores Leibniz' idea of the best of all possible worlds, I feel personally attacked! Jk lol but I think many people misinterpret the idea as did Voltaire, for example, when he wrote "Candide". It's not about this world being absolutely and completely amazing or something like that but being the best of all POSSIBLE worlds. And if we consider that God might have wanted to create self-conscious, free-willing, autonomous creatures, then I think this limits the amount of possible worlds tremendously. You'll need some sort of consistent natural laws which let people actually choose A when they chose this way (there wouldn't be much will and autonomy involved if A or B happened randomly or independently whether I chose to do A or B; so God can't always intercept any and every bad action and event) and which at the same time allowed for the emergence of such a species (e.g. having extremely low entropy at the beginning of the universe which is a quite unlikely property for the universe to have as Roger Penrose argued in his book "Cycles of Time", or having some sort of violent and competitive drive to make evolution happen). So, maybe this actually is as good as it gets.
@AndyAlegria
@AndyAlegria Жыл бұрын
I find it hard to believe that whether or not a child gets cancer or a ladybug is eaten from the inside out by wasp larvae has an effect on free will. Do you really think that a world without flesh-eating bacteria or tornadoes would affect our ability to have free world? An all knowing, all good God couldn't work that one out?
@benjo6652
@benjo6652 Жыл бұрын
@@AndyAlegria A world with natural laws which didn't cause the rise of such natural phenomena or natural "evil", so natural laws and initial conditions quite different from the ones we're having, might be incompatible with the rise and preservation of human life as we know it and as God (might) have intended it to be. The question remains "Why didn't God miraculously remove all cancer and dangerous bugs from existence once human life as intended did come into existence?" but I've already stated that dabbling too much in the world directly makes real conscious choices impossible. If I'm a human being thinking about releasing a dangerous virus or torturing a little kid, my agency would be restricted tremendously if an omnipotent God would intervene or even just if I thought God would intervene as he would have done numerous times before, e.g. by suddenly removing cancer from the world, dangerous bugs, removing tornadoes which should happen physically and so on. So yeah, an omnipotent, omniscient God might not be able to create a better possible (!) world as better worlds compatible with some properties (existence of creatures with free will, free will itself and its preservation, autonomy and so on) would be impossible and asking if God could create such a world similar to aksing if God could create a round square or some other logical impossibility. While the free-will defense does explain why there's moral evil in the world, Leibniz' best of all possible worlds explains nicely why there's natural evil as well.
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