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Phoenix Point - 10 Strategic Layer Tips and Common Mistakes

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Perun

Perun

Күн бұрын

Just like the old school XCom games, Phoenix point can be brutal on its strategic layer, and it's entirely possible to feel like you're doing just fine and wining all of your battles...right up until the population starts dying, the Pandorans tech up, and the world goes to shit all around you.
In this video I set out 10 basic tips (including how to avoid some common mistakes) that will help you play a more solid game on the geoscape. Don't expect a deep dive, but I'm hoping this answers some questions for new players.
My 10 strategy layer tips:
1) Your first priority is to get a second team operational. Bodies above all else.
2) You live or die by your air fleet. Helios and manticores are there to move your teams, slower stuff is for air-air combat or trade duty. Remember there are free aircraft out there at lower difficulty.
3) Don't overbuild your bases and never build a damn food generation facility.
4) Demolish structures you don't need, and consider scrapping equipment you'll never use if needed.
5) Loot like a madman, and know when your mission requires you to manually pick up loot.
6) Most of the research in the game can be safely skipped - you can go straight for tech 3 weapons.
7) With some basic rules, trade is a great source of very easy profit.
8) Expand your footprint, you can't loot sites you haven't found, or defend havens you can't see.
9) Building faction relations gives huge rewards, but non-story raiding missions are a trap.
10) Mutagens and ancient-sites give you access to a parallel economy that takes the pressure off your normal (food, tech, material) eco. use them.

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@Notinservice420
@Notinservice420 10 ай бұрын
Going from watching your Sunday military videos to watching a video about gaming is abit of a trip.
@mikelnazkauta1317
@mikelnazkauta1317 Жыл бұрын
I saw this video for the first time around 10 months or more, when I first played Phoenix Point. Now I was thinking of playing it again and searched for this video only to find it and realise that it was by Perun, whom I now follow because of his indepth talks about supplies and the war in Ukraine. Wow.
@miletech
@miletech 2 жыл бұрын
10/10 - This is exactly the video I was hoping you'd make next. I'm 180 hrs of playtime into my first playthrough (I assume, that's pretty bad) and made a buuuuunch of the mistakes you've outlined here, which makes the game start to feel like a treading-water sort of grind by the time you're mid-game, starved of resources and struggling to keep on top of everything. Coming from X-Com, I thought, oh SWEET I get MORE THAN ONE BASE?? I'll build that second one up ASAP to keep ahead of the curve. Now I have like 10 of them, pretty much all completely built up with shit I never really needed, have researched EVERYTHING, allied with all factions and only just got the final Ancient refinery to actually start building those weapons, which makes all that other gear basically redundant. I had no idea you could cut a profit purely from trade! What a game-changer! I would also add with the advice about building Living Quarters/Hospitals, it makes no sense to have these facilities in bases that are geographically close, put them on either side of the globe so you've generally got a "rest/heal" base within range of whatever conflict you're fighting. 2 such bases seem to be enough for that.
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this game is close enough to XCOM that people are tempted to port over assumptions that work in that game...and then get burned for them. If you've survived 180 hours on a single run then you're probably bloody good at the tactical battles, since you're grinding through end-game Pandorans who must be attacking you and havens all over the place, just sounds like your economic progression was a bit all over the place. Trade accounts for quite a significant chunk of my income through the entire game, so if you miss that 'free money' then that will absolutely slow you down. Strongly agree with you on rest bases, I think I use 2-3
@comrade128
@comrade128 2 жыл бұрын
If playing Festering Skies, I don’t steal faction ships until after the first Behemoth sighting. Steal them after that they already become preloaded with weapons and misc modules. Before the Behemoth, I just activate closest base with a Manticore.
@florinadrian5174
@florinadrian5174 2 жыл бұрын
24:00 Researching live aliens gives you bonus damage against them. This is crucial with lesser weapons and still useful with tier 3 weapons for aliens with insane amounts of HP. So don't skip that research.
@pendergastselim
@pendergastselim 2 жыл бұрын
What does it mean to research "live aliens"? Is it captured aliens you are reffering to, and if so how do you research them?
@pendergastselim
@pendergastselim 2 жыл бұрын
I have captured aliens, but havent seen much to do with them yet.
@pendergastselim
@pendergastselim 2 жыл бұрын
Okay I think I found it. Seems like you get new options of "vivisection" in the research-list.
@Beosker
@Beosker 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit sad to hear how much of the tip is "don't engage with the game here, it's a trap" feels kinda rough for the player and designer
@svenweihusen57
@svenweihusen57 Жыл бұрын
I don't think so. There are different ways to play the game. So you find out that you could do better after the first run. And after the second and so on. It would be easier to have a single clear way to win but it would also reduce the replay value.
@Goblexter
@Goblexter Ай бұрын
@@svenweihusen57 Committing dozens of hours going down the wrong path because the game didn't teach you about the alternatives you could and should be considering isn't exactly good design imo. I'm currently in the situation where I am considering restarting my game, but only because a lot of the game was very unintuitive. For example the whole time I've been playing I had no idea that diplomacy missions don't hurt your alignments. I've been avoiding doing them for this single reason and now I'm learning this crucial bit of information not in the game, but in a KZfaq video. Raiding a faction and then going "sorry sorry let's be friends again", and then raiding them some more the next week... yeah that didn't happen in my campaign, but only because I didn't know this is something you're supposed to be doing to get ahead in this game.
@Goblexter
@Goblexter Ай бұрын
Well, nevermind about those diplomacy missions. Seems I wasn't in the wrong avoiding them. The author of the video contradicted himself and proceeded to recommend against them towards the end of the video.. I don't know what happened there.
@Robert_GL
@Robert_GL 22 күн бұрын
​@@GoblexterThe author meant two different kinds of diplomacy missions. One is to raid/sabotage opposing faction's heavens, and the other is unlocked at 25/50/75% support threshold. If you didn't catch that, than no wonder you are complaining about the game being too ambiguous. My advice would be to pay attention to the things you are trying to interact with.
@timblighton6216
@timblighton6216 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! As someone who logged untold hours of Xcom UFO Defense Force, Phoenix Point satisfies that itch, but I’ve forgotten what it means to really hustle. Even the old Xcom rewarded the player for not researching the tech that advanced the story and research all of the second tier that could be found beforehand. This is a different rhythm and vids (both these tips-based and play-throughs drive that notion home. Appreciate your work! Cheers!
@renoldrachman5479
@renoldrachman5479 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet. Awesome tip and strategy guides to the overall game. Thanks for this. I know that its your opinion and wont argue one way or another. If you disagree, just dont do it. Dont argue.
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I know there are going to be some of these ideas that are more controversial than others, but hopefully most of them make sense to people. I've also found the Phoenix Point community (like the Dominions community that I also do a lot of content for) is very supportive and engages pretty positively in discussions, even when people disagree over strategy.
@robertsiems3808
@robertsiems3808 2 жыл бұрын
You should be able to argue if you disagree, just do it politely.
@renoldrachman5479
@renoldrachman5479 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertsiems3808 Agreed. You got the gist of it, so I wont discuss the semantics in the wording.
@Self-replicating_whatnot
@Self-replicating_whatnot 2 жыл бұрын
35+ minutes is not just tips, it's the whole shaft! On the subject of reverse engineering - i would humbly submit that if you steal aircraft from Synedrion(what with the brutal rep penalty current patch have introduced) you might as well reverse-engineer their SR or you will run out of ammo well before you learn how to produce it the legit way. In fact, in my current playthrough i ended up building a few Pythagoras's, and Synedrion was by far the last faction i got to 50% with(through *almost* no fault of my own).
@eviljoshy3402
@eviljoshy3402 2 жыл бұрын
I personally find New Jericho is the most difficult faction to deal with early on. Due to armor, armor piercing weapons and all their heavies have rocket launchers -.-
@Self-replicating_whatnot
@Self-replicating_whatnot 2 жыл бұрын
@@eviljoshy3402 Same, that's why NJ rep tends to grow the fastest in my games - i don't want to start shit with their troops, i don't want their aircraft and, all else being equal - i'd rather side with them over Anu when given an either-or choice.
@eviljoshy3402
@eviljoshy3402 2 жыл бұрын
@@Self-replicating_whatnot I like NJs plane for air combat just because the anu blimp is too slow. Their armadillo is also nice if I run vehicles. I do like their guns and incendiary tech. Love their technician for healing. Synedrion has the most accurate weapons and best tech IMO. Medical nanites, mist repellers, research boost, nanotech, paralyzing weapons. I mostly use the infiltrator as a sub class for other characters. Like assaults or snipers for sneak attack. If my snipers aren't packing ravens for armored targets, they are using synendrion snipers. Anu has cheap mutations when I'm high on mutagens, shotguns, acid and 2 good classes. Mainly a priest with a frenzy head.
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
But the pain of melting down a precious pythag and clogging the research lineup.... I take the point. will need to test in a fresh campaign, though if you just say nice things about synedrion during every random event they may still be your first or second faction to diplo up. the old days of stealing 7 aircraft are gone though, lest we forget
@memyshelfandeye318
@memyshelfandeye318 2 жыл бұрын
@@PerunAU Ironically, higher difficulty level seems to promote skipping more of the game. Or I just go a very unlucky draw with my map: Playing on Veteran (1st playthrough), I have only NJ at coast, ANU inland and one lonely SYN haven in between. Up to now (18.01.) I got 3 or 4 havens attacked, and all where NJ ones. No way I get good relations with SYN anywhere soon, so I used up the mag I got for the pistol, then reversed engineered it. Could it be that haven attacks are much more common on higher difficulties, and therefore getting ressources and diplo points from them much more frequent?
@dkopp7545
@dkopp7545 2 жыл бұрын
This is the video I was looking for. Huge help as a first time player, Ive been running around with 1 ship because it felt unworth to get another. Totally wrong, much appreciated on the vid
@darth_dan8886
@darth_dan8886 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, I do try my best to equip every operative with a personal set of gear... But sometimes the recruitment just gets ahead of the economy, and I am forced to shuffle the gear a little. Yes, I still manufacture it as soon as I can. But I believe that this approach is also viable, and less cheesy than just teleporting the same 9 sets. The way I see it, my more acclaimed, veteran operatives have their own, customised gear, while the rookies get the Phoenix-issued weaponry (and whatever armour is free at the moment rather than the specifically matched sets I'd otherwise use).
@Zlatan32289
@Zlatan32289 2 жыл бұрын
Agree not cheesy just a logical approach that I used to do on all my xcom runs.
@jasonbrady1258
@jasonbrady1258 2 жыл бұрын
Just came across this, and I really enjoyed the video! One thing I am extremely confused by is how are you possibly beating the Ancient Site missions without upgraded gear? The Hoplites seem to always come in huge quantities and positively WRECK my soldiers even in the mid-late game. I can't even imagine trying to do that early game with tier 1 weaponry.
@jimrford
@jimrford 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see an updated guide most of the ones I've found although good are a year or so old, thx.
@greenya84
@greenya84 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the game had lower than Rookie difficulty. I started a couple of times and i have no idea when i stuck and why, is it close to the end game, is it middle. Would be awesome to have Story Mode difficulty where you can have 1 ship and 1 team and just enjoy the game with your main team which you stick with and actually finish the game.
@penguinmaster11321
@penguinmaster11321 2 жыл бұрын
Game journalist mode
@MomJeans1738
@MomJeans1738 Жыл бұрын
@@penguinmaster11321 true that white boy
@Goblexter
@Goblexter Ай бұрын
Came here after I got absolutely destroyed entering lategame (playing on Heroic). My economy was shit and every 'Extreme' threat mission was detrimental to the campaign. I'll wipe my tears and enter another one backed with the solid information from this video. Cheers. This game completely failed at teaching the player a lot of things they should know beforehand.. but, maybe that is indeed my XCOM background factoring into how I played the first time.
@pendergastselim
@pendergastselim 2 жыл бұрын
In the video there's mention of the possibility to get an free aircraft when remote activating a base. I havent seen any such "free" aircraft? Is it perhaps a feature when playing with festering skies dlc?
@MomJeans1738
@MomJeans1738 Жыл бұрын
It is, nigguh
@gabisuciu6785
@gabisuciu6785 Жыл бұрын
Teleporting equipment is not a strong cheese, rather an economical gamble. Sure, you can just share Equipment, but that's how you get the A team wiped out in an ambush.
@user-bx3fh9xp8b
@user-bx3fh9xp8b Күн бұрын
Ooo that’s the power point guy We meet again It’s really funny how when I need western perspective on military stuff I watch Perun and when I need a guide on a new strategy game I find him again.
@scrapmetal4429
@scrapmetal4429 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this, first actual strategy guide I have seen.
@bugfeatures
@bugfeatures 2 жыл бұрын
In one of your infiltrator class video you totally undervalue the technician. No wonder if you skip adv. laser weapons. Just for the fun i build a team with only Infiltrator/Technicans. These laser towers can do 600 dmg. And due to remote controll they do it twice per Technician per round. Also if the are close to empty or damaged, pick them up and place them again.
@user-gc1uc7ek1u
@user-gc1uc7ek1u 24 күн бұрын
Info confirmed. These laser pew-pew are cool indeed. Actually, I've build a highly mobile and tanky squad with 2 techs and assault heavies with trooper/close quaters/self def. perks. Some of them aren't even carrying heavy weapons -- they just fly around and shoot/blast things with high accuracy from laser rifles and smgs. You have to have a dedicated demolisher to shred armo, though.
@Trifler500
@Trifler500 2 жыл бұрын
Independent heavy legs are good because they have almost as much armor, but don't have the -1 Speed.
@martinithechobit
@martinithechobit 2 жыл бұрын
I am going to get this on steam. Good to know this stuff before getting in to make it more enjoyable start.
@NSG0079
@NSG0079 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide. I just got back into this game after a long break and these tips are super helpful 👍
@mediocregamer9011
@mediocregamer9011 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve restarted this game three times in attempt to win the strategy that is Phoenix point the first tip you give is an absolute winner
@retrocoach16
@retrocoach16 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I need to spend a point to advanced laser tech: they give you a shoulder mounted laser weapon that is Tier 3, spent 1 AP (that's quite useful for an Heavy, which action costs at least 2 AP) and reach almost everywhere in the map. It's very powerful and I suggest not to skip it
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
Oh the destiny is a fantastic weapon, it's just really expensive to build and keep fuelled, so I don't prioritise it. The laser PDW is also a really good weapon, I just usually prioritise the push to ancient-tech. Overall, advanced lasers is one of the nicer techs because the weapons it gives you have no ancient equivalents.
@belladonna5531
@belladonna5531 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an excellent video ;) i love this game but always seem to struggle in the midgame, i've played hundreds of hours but im yet to see the second half of the game ;( Specifically 1. not being to access enough of the globe to do missions or scavenging etc, (im guessing after watching your video its because of lack of satellite coverage) 2. how to defeat the ancients at the archaeology sites, even with maxed out characters i get destroyed (and without tier 2 weapons allround that would surely be even more difficult ) Anyway im going to start a new game following your advice and see how it goes (and im only playing on veteran lol) Keep up the great work! :)
@The1stDukeDroklar
@The1stDukeDroklar Жыл бұрын
War Cry and stun weaponry ftw. War Cry drops them to 2 AP and a little stun makes almost every enemy completely helpless regardless of how strong or advanced they are. The only exception is the Siren with mind control. Augmented heads on your soldiers that has the neuralize ability ends that problem.
@Ghalion666
@Ghalion666 10 ай бұрын
I like this game too, and yeah, mid-game is a slog. This game's biggest issue is that so many things require heavy HEAVY long-term investment with ABSOLUTELY NO payoff until the very end. Like in xcom your tier 2 weapons and armor come mid game and are a massive upgrade. But so many of the straight upgrades from starting gear in this game require you to get chummy with a faction, AND research their stuff, AND build something in your bases, AND capture certain areas, AND build certain components AND research yet another t hing, and all that time you get NOTHING of value until you finally do all of it.. it's really difficult to maintain excitement during the whole process.
@captnpugwash3923
@captnpugwash3923 2 жыл бұрын
Look forward to see your next play through after the changes from the last patch. Think it’s changed things a lot from your current game.
@ZlothZloth
@ZlothZloth 2 жыл бұрын
Something I've been doing that now looks like a mistake: leaving a garrison in a base. I see all that red around a base (like in SE Asia in this video) and I want to put a dozen soldiers and maybe a vehicle in there! Looking around the internet, though, it sounds like we get more than enough warning, as long as you've got a team somewhere in the hemisphere. Now I've got to see about getting all those troops out of Australia...
@beans8130
@beans8130 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like even this guide most of it is going over my head😂 literally just started
@onomastikon7975
@onomastikon7975 Жыл бұрын
Your tip 6: ancient tech, doesn't that require dlc? If so, and we don't own the dlc, which research if any would be skippable? Thanks!
@kmanL3G3N3D
@kmanL3G3N3D 2 жыл бұрын
I played this game the Complety wrong way. I pretty much did everything u said not to, but I also went in blind with not much TBS games experience. U would get a kick out of my run.
@gregoryeichner3055
@gregoryeichner3055 7 ай бұрын
Just bought the game to play on steam deck great video thanks for the tips
@cobaltblue73
@cobaltblue73 2 жыл бұрын
If you have the corrupted horizons DLC researching aliens will also unlock alien abilities for the mutoids which is a new type of soldier that relies on the mutagen resource. I wouldn't say the advice given here isn't gd anymore, rushing T3 weapons is a totally valid strategy but researching aliens is less of a "trap" since they literally make a class of soldeir more powerful. Another CON of this strategy is that since you rely on the factions to research their own tech you'll get their tech that much later, so for weapons this isn't a big deal but this also affects tech for augments and more importantly the exclusive faction classes thus limiting your options for multi-classing...
@DGneoseeker1
@DGneoseeker1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I basically had no idea what I was doing at this level.
@rowanthompson9095
@rowanthompson9095 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say, love your videos, have found them very useful. Would like one on the assault class when you get the time. I am going to have to start again, as I haven’t got enough of the map open for where I am at time wise, especially for where you seen to be at a similar time. I haven’t even seen anything about ancient tech, what story mission starts that up?
@gagaplex
@gagaplex Жыл бұрын
Regarding the endgame faction research, I was confused at first why I couldn't choose the other factions' endings despite having done all of their final research and penultimate missions, too. It seems that you can only do the final mission for the faction whose endgame research you did first! Then, only the final mission for that faction spawns. The only other ending you can choose at any point is the Phoenix Point ending, but - unlike for the other faction research - that one actually tells you that it locks out the other endings...
@CarloRizzante
@CarloRizzante 8 ай бұрын
Knocking down a facility gets enough resources for one more weapon. Imagine you demolish your apartment and get a Beretta as reward 😀
@Akkanian1
@Akkanian1 2 жыл бұрын
Beginner with few days in here. I don't know if I missed it but I don't think you talked about mist repellers. Since your recommendation to avoid most researches made this a lot more complex, do we avoid mist repellers altogether or is it still fine to research and build them on our bases? I see in this video you don't have them on your bases. Is there a reason for it? Wouldn't it help slow down the mist and prevent starvation of populations?
@tibielias
@tibielias 2 жыл бұрын
Those are some great suggestions there. I knew getting ships and soldiers throughout the game is really important, but I never knew I could mess up research with reverse engineet everything under the sun.
@punkrockprometheus2439
@punkrockprometheus2439 2 жыл бұрын
What about Mutoids? Doesn’t that make Mutagens more important? As well as the autopsy research to get their Pandora’s abilities? Or are they a mechanic better left ignored?
@grone1778
@grone1778 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks A TON for this!
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@vladimiravich7260
@vladimiravich7260 2 жыл бұрын
Playing my current campaign on legendary I unfortunately fell for a few of these traps, I raided allies for materials early and built a few fabrication plants so I can quickly build up Manticores to fight the festering skies. This helped in short term as I was able to immediately counter the Festering Skies and get several small teams out exploring. I invested into food production which will take time to see returns on. I have not stollen a single air craft as (unpopular opinion) the middle of the ground Manticore is not bad! Usually 6 dudes is all I need for most missions. Another unpopular opinion, using vehicles is not a bad idea. They offer some cheesy time consuming strategies for haven defense. I was able to take down my first Scylla using 3 rookies and an Armadillo because it acted as a nice fast moving tank to kite it around until the heavy with the grenade launcher shreded enough armor so that the priest can panic lock the Scylla with a redeemer rifle. I managed to do a haven defense using only one assault and an Armadillo by rallying all the defenders in the first turn and using the Armadillo to tank damage. Now in the mid game the thing killing me is: the constant need for tech resource, corruption because the Acheron refuses to show up, and glitched probes that I can't manufacture even though I have a powered archeology lab. It was damaged while being constructed which I think may have gliched it. I'm building a second lab to see if the glitch gets fixed. If not, I'm stuck trying to win with tier 2 equipment.
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
Manticores are not bad aircraft, and with the rebalance to the game they'll be more important than ever. They're inferior to the Helios for team purposes, but they're good enough. They do fall down a bit on range though, which can sometimes be important. Vehicles can be used for some fun cheese, and they're cheap for the number of slots they occupy. I just think they seduce you with the short term power spike. Eventually, one max level soldier is going to out-perform a vehicle, let along three max level soldiers. Winning with T2 equipment is very possible (there are some great t2 weapons) but that's a very painful bug. As for tech, it's usually the hardest of the resources to obtain, I usually lean heavily on trade to make that work.
@ktsoutsoubroutsos3873
@ktsoutsoubroutsos3873 Жыл бұрын
why this series is not ever! such a pity :D
@joshbrown5842
@joshbrown5842 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in my first ever run and I’ve tried to go in completely blind. It was such a big mistake, I’m almost into February already and just got my 3rd team, all the scavenging missions I’m finding are high difficulty in the mist at night, and that wouldn’t normally be a problem but I just got a loaded fucking intel report with some boney looking snake thing and some big ass quadruped worm launcher, I’ve been cruising up to this point haven’t lost a soldier yet, but something tells me that the next time I get ambushed I’m gonna get screwed. Still not sure who I wanna ally I’m closest to the disciples but I’m thinking synedrion because the anti mist stuff is pretty cool, not sure if it’s actually useful in the long run but from the past few mission I’ve had to do in the mist I’m thinking it will be.
@The1stDukeDroklar
@The1stDukeDroklar Жыл бұрын
The Xcom series was some of my all-time fav games but Phoenix Point is better in every way imaginable. Sirens: Crippling the head does not remove their mind control ability. The head augmentation that gives you neuralize (or whatever it's called) works to stop mind control. Biggest tip: The War Cry ability (Heavy class) combined with stun weapons is the "end all be all" of combat. War Cry covers a huge area (10 grid in all directions) and reduces all enemies to only 2 action points. Just the War Cry will make Chirons and most of the Pure soldiers completely not be able to do anything. Only Pure Engineers and Assaults can fire with a War Cry on them. Without moving, the eng can fire a PDW twice and the assault can fire once. If you put a small stun factor on the assault he can no longer fire at all. The engineer needs to be stunned past the halfway mark to remove his ability to fire. This works on all monsters or soldiers. War Cry and a little stun and they are helpless. Harvesting: I never kill pandorans except for pesky worms and fraggers. All the rest I simply overstun enough to keep them stunned til the end of the mission. They are a great source of food that can then be traded. Farming Scavenging Sites: A vehicle can hold unlimited gear so I save all scavenging sites until i have 2 containment rooms, the Tiamat, an Aspida, at least one Hvy/Priest with Sniper perk, one Hvy/Engineer with Sniper perk, one assault/Hvy with Ready For Action perk (no cost for accessing backpack) and 2 other Hvy/Snipers. I bring lots of fuel for the enginers arms for repairing the vehicle and people. The Assault goes into the Apsida where the fast vehicle can move the soldier very far at any time. The assault/Hvy can then use 2 AP to get out leaving him with 2 AP. He can then either fire his weapon and get back in for safety, or he can use War Cry and 1 stun while still being able to retreat into the Aspida if needed. His quick hands make him ideal for grabbing goods from the crates or picking up loot. Four soldiers each take one corner where they can jump jet to any new enemies spawning and still have 1 AP left for a War Cry. If it's the Pure, I farm them for weapons and ammo. If it's Pandorans, I keep them all stunned with handheld nuerazors until I'm ready to go. Must have 2 containment structures built if you really want a good farming run. One Chiron takes up 5 space in containment so 50 fills up too fast. With the Pure, there is a max number that will spawn and they stop coming after a while but it's still a good amount. I have yet to run out of pandoran spawns but at a certain point you get so many stunned that it becomes difficult to keep them all "topped off" with stun while new ones keep coming. At that point I go for all the crates with my Aspida and Hvy/Assault and vacate the mission. Do not go for the crates until ready to leave as it will bring your Apsida to a crawl. Using this method you can easily get 2000-3000 food which trades for about 3k-4k materials or about 1k-2k tech. Rage Burst: Hvy ability that allows you to fire 5 times for the weapon's normal 1 shot cost. I use this with a stun sniper rifle at point blank range on all massive monsters and hits usually about 4 times giving an average of 64 stun. Since all my troops are heavy/something, they all have it and will stun a Scyllia into dreamland in a couple turns.
@lurian8
@lurian8 Жыл бұрын
Just WOW! :-) Very useful video. Now I'll have to start the game all over again. (For the 5th or 6th time at least. :-))
@Pogram1
@Pogram1 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Now I know what to to avoid: buying Phoenix Point.
@wazman77show
@wazman77show Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this vid! I have restarted this game 4 times and haven’t finished it yet. These tips are exactly what I have been looking for. Wait do training facilities stack?!
@snipedude4953
@snipedude4953 2 жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to have problems combating The Pure, I forgot you can have multiple teams with aircraft for missions, I'm still running 6 man teams in mission's.
@waiphyotun7633
@waiphyotun7633 2 жыл бұрын
Owned this game since only-Epic days and so much has changed. Now I am playing with all dlc on steam. Your guide is the way to beat this new meta. Gone are the days you just need 2 team with 2 Tiamats, also food productions were keys. Phoenix point has bad design and bad strategic layers, but the real ballistic model and ability to aim different body parts make me never wanna play Xcom again.
@davidgagnon6337
@davidgagnon6337 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a total newbie, I started my first game a few days ago after watching your playthrough. Synedrion was the first faction I discovered. After the latest update, stealing a Helios early game is a -18 penalty. Is stealing a single aircraft, let along 2, is even viable with such penalty?
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
One is still a good idea I think. since by exploring you get opinion gain. A second would have to wait. I stole 6 on the old system most games. that's a bit less than 2 on the new system. so I'd cut down to one raid early and time it more carefully. The priority on getting free manticores from other bases is much higher now.
@yeahtube69
@yeahtube69 2 жыл бұрын
These Videos have been life savers.... seriously Your awesome... except I cannot seem to steal a ship.... the enemy kick the holy livin shit out of me... what.. am I doing wrong? I mean ... it isn't even a close game .. they flick me away like a booger on a fingernail.....
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
Is this Synedrion I presume (they're the hardest to raid) What are you going in with and what on their side is doing the damage? Is it snipers picking you apart in the open from beyond visual range?
@yeahtube69
@yeahtube69 2 жыл бұрын
@@PerunAU Thank you ~ I have 1 heavy 2 assaults and 2 snipers. My heavy doesn't do anything damage wise to their heavy and then another heavy shows up while I try to use my snipers to kill the heavy since my assaults don't do any damage to the heavy and the enemy snipers just lay waste to my team before I can even take out their heavy because it soaks up so much damage. And then since they know where I am they all converge on me before I can get to the ship.. If I try to make a run for the ship they destroy the ship. Maybe I am just bad but I did used to play a lot of Xcom.. I love this game so far I just got it last weekend and I have been watching your videos thank you for making them.
@yeahtube69
@yeahtube69 2 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Rainer Thanks for your reply I've been avoiding playing the game since I posted that I'll try your suggestion.
@blizzardqc
@blizzardqc 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome tips! Thank you!
@arneschott2570
@arneschott2570 2 жыл бұрын
thanks mate! it helps. i could use a guide on air combat next ;-)
@ZimCrusher
@ZimCrusher Жыл бұрын
wow, dude. You saved me a lot of bad choices. I love X-Com, and to NOT do autopsies, or reverse engeneer alien tech would be suicide. That would have been a 100% choice I'd make in this game, as well. Thanks for pointing that stuff out. The 'lots of troops, and lots of planes" is kind of my normal strategy, so thanks for the confirmation. Great video. Question: In X-Com, you can stall the story, but not doing a certain mission, or research, buying yourself some time to upgrade. Can that be done here? Do some missions, upgrade before progressing the story?
@CalebAdams
@CalebAdams Жыл бұрын
Super helpful, thank you!!
@tibielias
@tibielias 2 жыл бұрын
Hey @Perun does the 4th DLC change anything regarding the global strategy?
@bennymountain1
@bennymountain1 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm well into the mid game" (22.01.2047) Checking my game at 22.01.2047 with 9 troops and 2 aircraft and _sweating_
@tomkelly00
@tomkelly00 Жыл бұрын
I’ve just hit a difficulty wall in my game (vanilla, veteran, no idea how many hours but I’m basically obsessed with this game currently). Everything had been going pretty smoothly but now I’m having a bish of a time for example a vehicle rescue with multiple chirons and unlimited reinforcements. I got to the vehicle but was blocked by a Chiron corpse with no other way out. Had to reload to latest autosave. Another one was rescue independent soldiers- literally unwinnable from the start.
@user-gc1uc7ek1u
@user-gc1uc7ek1u 24 күн бұрын
You can blow up some corpses in the game, like sentinels, scyllas, dunno about chirons, should work as well, I suppose. Not only you can blow up dead bastards blocking your way, but also some buildings and covers. I do so often to get a clear line of sight on scaveging runs: one third of the map is usually levelled and 2 snipers are watching from afar while a super quick quaterback assault jumps out of the apc, dashes to the crates, gets loot and jumps back to the vehicle right in front of the dirtbags. Then you choose that collector dude while they're in the car, open inventory and drop all the crap in the truck. As for the rescue missions -- always carry an armadillo with you, or have it flying in the trader aircraft, so you can drop it on rescue mission. Put an assault or two plus a technician in the car, drive all the way to the fellas you need to save (you do have an idea where they might be at least). Once close to them, dash out of the vehicle to get control of someone, then jump back. From this point it depends: you can now capture another dude with the one you've just did, you can run the f outta there, you can try to fight back. Hope it helps, currently making my 3rd walkthrough and enjoying it a lot!
@feekzilla
@feekzilla 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. My only question is how do you clear the excavation sites with the basic T1 weapons?
@JamalTillett
@JamalTillett 2 жыл бұрын
More! Give me more!
@humlenissen2
@humlenissen2 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta say it sounds good and all to steal a plane from one of the havens at the start.. but boy are those soldiers they send wiping the floor with mine.. headsets even behind full cover, it is as if they dont want you to steal planes at the start..
@byronjbanks
@byronjbanks 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing you didn't cover that I wish you did is mist repel. Is it a trap?
@argotanza2447
@argotanza2447 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@JohnDoe-qr2cp
@JohnDoe-qr2cp 2 жыл бұрын
Trick question from noob - Why is playing fast and skipping half the game a good thing? Not criticising your strategy but rather the game itself. What am I missing? Seems like a great game to just mellow through...
@markiep8477
@markiep8477 2 жыл бұрын
This is great. Thanks!
@jesusfrancisco9645
@jesusfrancisco9645 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing you need to know about is that saving the game every turn saves your ass. Here in console the game crashes very often during loading screens and you can lost all your progress of the mission
@jonathanrivera870
@jonathanrivera870 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all this tips. As a new player (PS4), sometimes I find myself not knowing what to do since this game plays different than XCOM. To get new armor/weapons I recruit soldiers & strip their stuff for research. Always use only the 6 soldiers that I start with since I play in recruit difficulty to learn the game. I love this game but the constant crashing make me save constantly. Again, thank for all this tips. Guess I'll start all over again since I'm not that far in the game & have made some mistakes that you said we shouldn't. Also I don't like heavy's soldiers even with sniper armor for the boost in accuracy🤦‍♂️
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
If three teams seems too much for you, maybe even just try two. You could get a helios (or, if that's too hard a raid target, activate a base with a manticore that's in range maybe?) and build up to two teams of six. That, plus not reverse engineering, should really ramp up the speed at which you build up. Unlike XCOM, you really do need to have more of a 'global' management approach, supporting multiple teams if the goal is to be efficient. If you're just having fun though, nothing wrong with doing a challenge run where you only use like 2 teams!
@memyshelfandeye318
@memyshelfandeye318 2 жыл бұрын
@@PerunAU How do I tell if a base has a manticore in the hangar before I pay the activation fee? Savescumming?
@Joeholt816
@Joeholt816 2 жыл бұрын
@@memyshelfandeye318 you'll see a picture of the manticore at the base
@RichardRobertson
@RichardRobertson 3 ай бұрын
Now that the Terror from the Void mod has been released, when will you revisit Phoenix Point?
@DarkVeghetta
@DarkVeghetta Ай бұрын
I have yet to find ANY reason to have an Access Lift in a base, past the initial clearing. They really seem to be there only to give you some materials. Even on max difficulty, I have yet to resort to running from a Pandoran invasion force - reloading exists for such cases anyway.
@eviljoshy3402
@eviljoshy3402 2 жыл бұрын
I had someone from a haven I was defending join me after the battle. I figured it was something new they added. Now that the game is available for consoles I hope the modding community develops. I only have 5 mods for the game and 4 of them are made by the same author. This game has the foundation for something amazing but they didn't open it up to workshop like XCOM 2 did. I have over 1k hours into WOTC and the modding community is the reason for that.
@memyshelfandeye318
@memyshelfandeye318 2 жыл бұрын
You bought the game - so they got the money. Why should they care if you can play for 10 or 1000 hours because some modder added stuff?
@eviljoshy3402
@eviljoshy3402 2 жыл бұрын
@@memyshelfandeye318 left4dead. Need i say more?
@memyshelfandeye318
@memyshelfandeye318 2 жыл бұрын
@@eviljoshy3402 As I have no idea what you are talking about, yes, you might need say something more. Considering I lately got L4D2 for 1.49 on Steam, I guess all the modding did not do much for the developers; Keep in mind, it's all about how much revenue a game generates for the given investment, not about if players are still playing the game 10 years later - those player should have bought the 1st, 2nd and 3rd sequel in that time, not been playing the old game and sitting on their wallets.
@eviljoshy3402
@eviljoshy3402 2 жыл бұрын
@@memyshelfandeye318 Left4Dead2 is over a decade old yet people still play it. That has to do with the game being so much fun but also it helps that there are tons of mods for the game. In a sense it keeps the game fresh. That's what I was going for when I suggested they open up PP(lol) to the steam workshop. Without mods I probably would have cleared xcom 2 once, again when wotc came out and called it a day. Yet the modding community keeps me coming back. That's how you make a good game. One that people keep playing long after a competitor comes out.
@Jedi_Vigilante
@Jedi_Vigilante 2 жыл бұрын
@@eviljoshy3402 I think he's asking about why the developer should care if people are playing their game 10 years later. The answer to which is that if they are playing the game 10 years later, it keeps the game, its IP, and its developer fresh in that person's mind. If I'm playing a game that long because I enjoy the mods for it, and the developer releases another game of a different genre but the same IP, I'll probably take a look at it just because I'm a long-time fan of the IP (example: Halo Wars). If the developer releases another game in the same genre but a different IP, I'll probably take a look at it just because they've produced games that I'm a long-time fan of (example: Destiny). Some people will play an awesome game from a specific developer, and then follow everything that developer does, regardless of genre or IP. While a lot of credit for the lifetime of the game could (and should) be put down to the modders if that is what has kept the game interesting, the fact is they had to work with the framework of the developer's game...and if that framework is bad, they won't bother or it won't make a difference. So an extensive and varied modding community *DOES* help the developers. While it may not help them with that specific game, it is practically free advertising for their future games.
@christophersimmons1850
@christophersimmons1850 2 жыл бұрын
Some spoiler warnings would've been nice...
@chefboi5451
@chefboi5451 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of this holds up with the terror of the void mod? And do people really go through the game that fast? Is it really supposed to be done by march/april?
@gakkieNL
@gakkieNL Жыл бұрын
Just started the behemoth edition how does scanning work? Only from your bases or some other way?
@MrReign
@MrReign 2 жыл бұрын
thanks so much bud!
@bubblegumdukem9758
@bubblegumdukem9758 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful thank you
@DGneoseeker1
@DGneoseeker1 Жыл бұрын
Hm. I didn't actually notice what transport craft I started the game with. Is that actually a manticore? Because if so... then when you play the first mission of Festering Skies... Well, the reward is meant to be a manticore, but your transport is lost in the start of the mission. So that means all you're really getting is one extra soldier at the end of that mission, and also it starts off the annoyance of having a huge alien aircraft going around blowing up havens? Did I make a huge mistake taking that mission?
@djmulder
@djmulder 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't say anything regarding the mist.. is there anything special to do with that? I know you can't push it back (unless you get it from euh, the green faction).. but is that it? Should I be fearful of it? I know it's just added difficulty..but is that it?
@kendrickstarr
@kendrickstarr 2 жыл бұрын
should you activate bases you cant reach? just wondering if you should start scanning a soon as possible. this game is so much more complicated then xcom 2. just feel overwhelmed eith all the choices. looking forward to any of your other guides for beginners.
@blackheartwolf
@blackheartwolf 2 жыл бұрын
Own this on PC never finished bc patches ruin save files. I really want to play but it seems like a lot of micro managing. I'm not good at micro management. Xcom 1 and 2 weren't overwhelming but I did have to watch videos to better understand some things.
@saschavongeh6313
@saschavongeh6313 2 жыл бұрын
First of all, MANY thanks, amazing video. As someone who came back to the game for a (soon) new playthrough: Has the Mutation / Weapon Meta changed a lot from your last videos some month ago? For example i see in a lot of videos more and more tentacle mutations which where crap before? Has most stayed the same of can you give some pointers about those changes :) ? Thanks in advance!
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
I need to redo the T1 weapon video. The list of changes is way too long, Assault rifles are no longer garbage for example. The mutation meta, my personal opinion may or may not be out of step here, but unless you're focused on cost and nothing else, I think the tentacles are still not great. It's more AP efficient than a neuraliser, but the stat profile isn't great, it's WP hungry, and for hard captures i'd probably be using the ranged options or an Aspida a lot of the time. The changes were that it lost its steal nerf, gained +1 speed, and had its paralysis upped to 24 from memory. Which compares to the 16 you get off using 2AP and a neuraliser. I'd say it's now AN option if you want to capture things, and it's mutagens (so can be cheap) but there are still better options out there.
@saschavongeh6313
@saschavongeh6313 2 жыл бұрын
@@PerunAULamy Tranks m8. It Would be amazing if you could do an Update video 🤓👍
@gakkieNL
@gakkieNL Жыл бұрын
What’s the highest tech tier in the base game. No DLC?
@nerodelacroix9281
@nerodelacroix9281 2 жыл бұрын
Yay!
@jamiestewart4298
@jamiestewart4298 2 жыл бұрын
Uh can i ask how your factions are not more hostile towards each other tho if its on pc prob a mod to keep them quiet
@Stannum-on1yw
@Stannum-on1yw Жыл бұрын
"do not reverse engineering of equipment" - can't agree with it. SOME equipment is worth reversing. For example, Bulldog AR. You can aquire it at the 1-4 first days and they are (in some battles, e.g. vs Anu or New Jericho) more profitable then the Ares, because of their armor shredding. You can waste many days, waiting for "Gauss technology" from NJ, it's easier to reverse Bulldog and craft some of them... Same about autopsies - if you do "Arthron autopsy" research, then "shotgun" research, then kill a Siren and do "Siren autopsy", after it you can research and manufacture the Slamstrike - the best weapon for disabling enemy head or hand.
@HEAD123456
@HEAD123456 Жыл бұрын
this looks like this game is super hard. I am playing it for like 3hours and i dont even want continue after this video lol.
2 жыл бұрын
I cant see inside the buldings. On the videos when one of our troops inside, the roof become invisible. But mine on Xbox is not. Is there a way?
@Minotaur5200
@Minotaur5200 2 жыл бұрын
Ok im not exactly in to win the game, but to enjoy the game. So skiping bunch of reaserch is well....skipped content. Can anyone tell me how to prolong the campaign as much as possible?
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
Skipping might not mean you never do it, it might just mean you do it after you've focused down the critical path a bit. In the end those, these were tips to win, and that's not everyone's goal. If you want to stretch the game, You want to change your research goals a bit. You'll want mist-repelers because those will let you protect havens from Mist-caused starvation and generally help protect humanity longer. You'll want to basically have a global footprint, so you can see and defend all havens, and you'll want to try and take out the behemoth when you can, so it can't destroy havens. The basic point here is that you need to adjust your plan to focus on protecting havens from attacks and starvation, because population loss is what eventually ends the game. Please don't think this video means i'm dismissing your playstyle either. I wrote these tips to help people that want to win quickly, but the game is there to be enjoyed, and if you want a nice long campaign, holding the line for humanity with a global team of elite troops, I say go for it!
@Minotaur5200
@Minotaur5200 2 жыл бұрын
@@PerunAU Alright bro, thanks for the tips. Your vid is great, did learn alot from it. Just trying to implement some tips into my long campaign playstile. :D That's why I liked Firaxis Xcom 1 more than I did Xcom 2 (which has that damn doom clock)
@DRAEK05
@DRAEK05 2 ай бұрын
By the time you finish watching all these tutorial videos you could have beaten the game. It would be nice if people made concise guides. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the detail - but so many videos by so many people are like 30 - 40 minutes long
@joshuaennis1502
@joshuaennis1502 2 жыл бұрын
Man ive never seen a game that didnt want you to play it so bad
@Midknight0122
@Midknight0122 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's a mistake to overlook the two faction tech. Laser turrets and PDW don't have an ancient counterpart, ancient is may better in general but a few choice researched wepons can be a big help IMO.
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
Ignore is probably a strong word. They're luxuries. You get them once you've got the critical stuff. You want them at a point where you can afford both the resource and time cost required to make them, AND when there's nothing more important for you to be working on. For me, that means you've gotten progress critical things like capture tech, the big strategic layer techs, that you're pushing the story and have your T3 research timed so that you'll have weapons unlocked around the same time the resources start to come in. Plus, you issue a lot more shotguns or sniper rifles than you do PDWs normally, so even more of a premium on the ancient tech. So in a sense I agree with you, there's a case for some of these techs. I just didn't want people to fall into the trap of trying to research all of them, at the cost of the most critical stuff.
@Midknight0122
@Midknight0122 2 жыл бұрын
@@PerunAU I agree with your priorities and there is o denying how much of a step up the ancient tech is, especially for shotguns and sniper rifles. Perhaps it's an over run from previous patches but i've found way too many people overlooking the technician's damage potential when paired with the advanced laser tech, well worth a look and the time investment required IMO but as you say, it's less of a squad wide upgrade than the ancient tech, as such less useful less often but certainly worth a look.
@RoulicisThe
@RoulicisThe 2 жыл бұрын
For the food production part I have to partially disagree Recruiting soldiers, which is extremely important since you NEED these troops to go out there and do the work cost A LOT of food (except if you're lucky with rescue missions). Food production, as an economic structure, is bad I agree : growing food only to sell is a trap people fall into (me included when I started) BUT 1 food prod building also means 8 soldiers that won't cost you any food maintenance, and THAT is the part that does the trick for me. Don't overbuild food prods, build just enough to keep your soldiers fed, and then you can use the extra food you obtain when exploring and saving havens for recruitement and trading purposes without worrying about getting out of food.
@merquise8137
@merquise8137 2 жыл бұрын
The new update gives -22 opinion to a faction you raided. I don't think raiding multiple aircrafts are viable early stage since you want to trade with the factions for resources.
@matthewgodwin6688
@matthewgodwin6688 Жыл бұрын
I grap aircraft and they went air combat and then huge ship shows up and starts destroy havens If you do that base gets hit you screwed
@ophe1867
@ophe1867 2 жыл бұрын
Overall good, but I really don't see why you want more than 2 teams in the game. My first prio is to build 2-3 training facilities and start recruiting a 2nd team as early as possible; you will not use them until you get additional ships anyway, but this way you will start with them having max level skills; sure, you will not have a lot of skillpoints, but enough to make them usable without having to do 10 missions to level them). I believe this approach is even more useful since you can now get a team of mutids that doesn't even need to do missions to turn into their full potential. And another very important point is... Haven dies... don't get upset if you lose some, it doesn't matter in the long run.
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
I want more than two teams because there is enough work on the map to keep more teams than that busy, and because a team that is busy pays back the investment in it extremely quickly, while also serving as a reserve for your Alpha and Bravo squads. Training facilities are a big expense early, and really, and more importantly, there shouldn't be several days of downtime for them to construct and train your troops before you get an aircraft IMO. They're important, but I would normally have 3 teams active before they finish. The more teams you have, the higher your income, thus the higher your research. The higher your diplomacy, since you're defending more havens and smashing more Pandoran sites. And the slower the Pandoran evolution goes. I'm not saying you can't win the game with a 2 or even 1 team approach, but in terms of speed and how much of the world you save along the way, I'd favour a wider roster. Also remember, you'll be switching from 5-6 man squads to 8 man squads later, so you need more early game teams to fill a late game bench. Those are my thoughts anyway.
@gakkieNL
@gakkieNL Жыл бұрын
It’s the archeology also in the base game (none of the dlc activated(?
@Kataklyzim
@Kataklyzim Жыл бұрын
On PS5 you can't steal/raid a ship and continue to play. There is some kind of bug that eliminates the crew that stole the ship from doing any missions of any kind whatsoever anywhere on the map. Eventually the game locks up and you can't play it. This happened to me twice. I tried it the first game and I couldn't do anything after I stole the helios. I could trade with the stolen ship but my main group could do no missions, nothing. They just flew around as havens got destroyed by the Pandorans unable to land and deploy. I started a new game, stole another helios and the exact same thing happened again. And then it locked up. This happened today February 3rd. I checked for an update and it said I had the most recent update soooooo..... if you're playing this on PS5..... you can't steal a ship early in the game or you won't have a game to play at all unfortunately.
@phillipsciano979
@phillipsciano979 2 жыл бұрын
I love xcom 2...this game is awsome but what I have noticed....the stealth aspect it's gone.. there isn't any chance ti sneak...enemy's already know your there the minute you arrive
@PerunAU
@PerunAU 2 жыл бұрын
that's actually not true. View and detection ranges are pretty high by default, but once you start deploying stealth gear and infiltrators you can start playing the stealth game. Also different enemies have different perception scores, so detection ranges vary. Stealth is in the game, it's just not as obvious and more specialised than in XCOM2.
@roop298
@roop298 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, so the game doesnt really offer multiple winning pathways of playstyles?
@Svoorhout85
@Svoorhout85 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the pressure of the strategy element outside of combat turn me off these xcom style games. It gives me stress that drains my motivation to play.
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