I think both has something different . Both are nice

I own both. I hear better out of the Oticon Mores. Everything is clearer no muffling sounds. On the Phonaks I struggled with all the extra settings and I could not get the adjusted of right and left ears to ever stay when ever I set them at different leaves. Also I did not like the Phonak Paradise automatically changing when it Perceived loud noises or backgrounds I didn’t like that because it muffled everything on me. I will say I have a really bad hearing loss. One ear was damaged in a hyperbaric chamber the other is old age sensory hearing loss and I have had Stapedectomy’s in both ears. I hands down love my Oticon Mores. I don’t care which company has more features I just like the fact I can actually hear a lot better with my Oticon’s.

As an Audiologist I agree. Clients get better hearing with the More especially in groups. The Phonaks focus in front too much but then if there is a loud talker at a table behind you the front and back talkers seem to blend together. Paradise are still superb products. Connectivity and Tap Control are excellent. Rechargeable battery reliability has been a huge issue for us with the Paradise. The More batteries seem to have less faults in terms of errors and reduced life issues. If you stream lots of calls and media the Phonaks may not last the day. The Oticon LE system will allow that. I now fit a lot more Mores than Paradise to match open fit high freq losses better. But let me be clear, as perfectly described in your video each has specific features that certain clients may want and will love. Both are the best of the best on the market at the moment. Get a great Audiologist. Assess your needs and match them with either of the platforms.

I tried both, with phonak you hear sounds well but with Oticon you understand each single word, nothing too loud or too sharp or sudden, transition in noise is so seamless and natural plus many many other features in directionality, connectivity, streaming and battery life and much more in the More

@@Mimihockey937m I too hated the constant program changes the Phonaks made in the nearly 4 weeks I had them. In the less than a week I’ve had the Oticons, I also have had significantly better streaming quality.

Had a similar situation years ago. I lost an aid while working in a basement with a dirt floor (very dry, powdery dirt). I rented a magnetic broom (sweeper?) and found the aid in the dirt within minutes. Thankfully the aid's battery is made from steel.

I guess you can say or I can say " You make a lot of AUTO-SENSE to me 😂.🙌🦻

2 months ago I decided to try the Oticon More1s just to be sure. they are great too, very hard decision to make ! Coming to the end of the More1 trial I found out that my insurance co will now allow me to trial the Phonak Audeo Lifes ! Just waiting for them to come in now. Now after using the Phonaks and the Oticons I really like them both, no deal breakers with either

@@johnromano688 I'm actually using a phonak Audeo Marvel 90 trial, but I have faced some issues following conversations in certain enviroments, I want to test the oticon more 1 before making a purchase, but I want to know if the oticon earing aids have a natural, sound like the earing aids from phonak or if they have a "digitalized" sound like the earing aids from signia or unitron

Which VA? I might move....

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If this information was overwhelming, make sure you see a hearing care professional for help. Their job is to sift through this information for you.

The new phonak audio lumity is also excellent sound quality and great quality for music as well.. I have tried resound but have had better luck with the phonak devices.. But l'm sure all manufacturers all have very similar technology features.. it all depends on the generation of the device, and how it's fitted. Depending on your degree of hearing loss, and your needs

Which did you decide on? I’m comparing both of these in CROS now. Thanks!

Hello Anthony. I have the same problem. The Reverse Hearing Loss Slope is so frustrating. I have been trying different hearing aids since ten years ago. If someone knows how to deal it, it will be of great help.

@@jmandiolao Try the Phonak Paradise or Life. Reverse slope is very hard to deal with but the controls on the Phonak APP help to dial in the best settings for different environments. Other hearing aids do not have the precise controls. This in turn can help the Audiologist program your hearing aids better. Real ears measurements may not be the correct settings for reverse hearing slope. I cannot tolerate the low frequencies that I need so there has to be a compromise. The Phonak APP with all of their controls help this. People close to me have told me the Oticon and the Widex were the worse hearing aids I have tried, I have tried Oticon twice with two different Audiologist, same outcome. Thanks

@@anthonycermenaro1173 thanks you a lot!

Yo. I’m just trying out the oticon more and the phonak paradise hearing aids for reverse slope hearing life myself. What a coinsidense. Well maybe not on this spesiffic comment section. Anyway I got the Phonaks to try out first, and was so happy with them. The only thing is that a musician I want to see what are the best hearing aids for music and performance. So anyway my audiologist reccomended I tryed the Mores to see if they were more effective. I find the speech a bit weird so far, but then I only got them yesterday so it’s going to give them a shot. Still it’s interesting seeing what you wrote since I do miss the Paradises allready.

@@MissCaraMint Thank you for reaching out. It good to hear from some with reverse hearing slope. I even gave the Mores a second chance and did not find that they worked well for speech understanding. They claim that the Mores are more natural sounding but I found them to be thin sounding lacking clarity. The Phonak seem to be more like regular sound. Note your Audiologist can adjust the sound. I also liked the flexibility of creating custom programs on the go. Great that you are checking both out.

Have your provider create you a full-directional (focusing on the front) program that you can switch to in difficult situations. They can also try different levels of noise reduction and a few other things to help.

@@americanhearingcenter Yes. I have 4 programs trying to solve this problem along these years, and none of them has been successful. Today I started testing the Phonak audeo paradise in the standard version and is a huge change. I have been able to hear with no trouble a person talking to me inside a store. I will be doing more tests during this testing week. the only strange thing is that I can hear the wind hitting the hearing aid. Maybe that is not a problem with the premium or advanced version. Anyways, my first thought was: with the Oticon Opn I hear the voice as coming from some place (maybe this is more natural sound, I don't know), and with the Audeo paradise I hear the voice as if people is talking to me directly in the ear. It was quite impressive.

You should try the MORE 1, I sell nothing but. The background noise suppression sounds natural, according to one of my clients. Try listening to birdsong on You Tube with the MORE 1against any other aid. I sell nothing but.

Boo ! Boo ! Just kidding 😂😂😂

So unfortunately there's really no way to improve the terrible thing that is the asha protocol which was fun fact cooked up by google with the intention to make it easier to stream and make handsfree phone calls but it ultimately didn't workout that way you still have to hold your phone in your hand for the other person to hear you

Maybe take Airpods Pro 2 for music. You can apply your hearing curve on them.

My left ear has worsening low frequency hearing condition while my right ear has normal age-related higher frequency issues. I have used Widex Moment 330 for the last two years and now I am test wearing Oticon Real 2 as I decided I need to be able to hear more clearly and easily in a noisy workplace environment. Oticon Real proves much better for the job than Widex, far naturally sounding in every cases. However not so when it comes to listening to music. I love to listen to mostly (but not exclusively) classical music at home from my "audiophile-grade" audio system. The music I hear through Widex is deep, transparent and extends to higher freqeuncies, whereas via Oticon Real music sounds flat with fine details noisy, muddy and a bit distorted. I suspect this is due to Oticon Real processing sound to be more "listenable" but at the same time adding some artifacts. So I am sure I keep Oticon Real but I will continue to use Widex at home for music. Hope this helps.

That -- rapid speech -- is why I always turn on live captions -- CC -- when available plus the Settings (gearwheel) button often includes speed of playback and dropping that to 75% can help!

Oticon is manual.

I hope you don't get a noisy " FEEDBACK " on your hearing Aides .

Buy a pair of eargear. It serves as a rain coat for hearing aid.

The new CROS from Oticon is really good. It is very comparable to the performance of a Phonak CROS.

Phonak said they’d be coming out with an app that will work w the Paradise and the BiCros. My audi isn’t very hopeful and doesn’t have any additional info from Phonak. I’m very disappointed there’s no app bc it’s very challenging using the toggle and missing out on so many features.

@@DrCliffAuD Except that the Phonak doesn't support simultaneous CROS and audio streaming (I learned this when I tried the P-90), whereas Oticon does (or so I have been told).

Work how? I am trying Oticon More 2 and have Samsung S10E and work pretty good. Not perfect. But goodm

That's a programming issue. Have your provider reduce the microphone sensitivity while streaming.

@@DrCliffAuD Thank you!! There were other things I didn't like about Phonak Audeo Paradise so I decided to return them and try out the Oticon More. I currently wear the Oticon Opn 1 so I'm hoping it will be similar to them.

Switch to a size 13 hearing Aides battery it bigger than size 312 battery 🔋 of Behind the Ears hearing Aides and you may have to buy a new hearing Aides to fit size 13 battery and it lasted 16 days of 12 hours then rest at night pulling out the battery to conserve battery power while you are sleeping for 6 to 8 hours until you get up start your day over again . I'm guessing rechargeable battery hearing Aides supposed to be lasting longer than 16 hours of listening 🎧 and recharging it up to 3 to 8 hours at night and using it as a backup hearing Aides while using the regular size 13 battery powered hearing Aides .

@@richa.s9912 Thank you for your suggestions. I will look into a 13 battery but don’t know if they will fit my hearing aids. I hadn’t planned on buying new hearing aids only one year after getting the Oticon more 1. They’re not cheap. The rechargeable battery version worked ok for me but my concerns were that I live in a hurricane zone when we can be without power for weeks. I would have to come up with a backup power solution to keep the aids charged. Also when I travel, I would have to carry the charger with me. And if the charger ever broke, I’d have no way to charge batteries. So U went with replacement battery version.

I'm also hoping that my Medical mediCare Insurance company can help me pay for my hearing Aides and me and my family can pay the other half of the hearing Aides and hearing testing next week or so . It cost I think 🤔 $ 4 thousands dollars for one hearing Aides . But I need 2 hearing Aides . I have to wait until Supply Shipping getting around from Switzerland and Germany to send the new hearing Aides to America by ships . Joe Biden never should have shutdown gas and oils plants in America since he became a AntiAmerica AntiGOD Marxist Anti-capitalist Dictator Demoncrats Party's President in January 2021 .Joe Biden did say no more gas and oils stations in America since September 2020 and he signed our Gas and oils production away from us REAL American black and white people in America since January 2021 and I really really missed paying $1.30 gallon of gas in 2020 and less cost renting a apartment and food and anything else in the Store was cheaper than Demoncrats Party's AntiGOD Marxist Anti-capitalist AntiAmerica policy's of fraudulent activity " The Green New Deal," fraudulent activity Hoaxes Climate Change! I'm still paying $150. dollars or more for $5. a gallon of gas and gonna be getting worse in end of the summer and fall of 2022 more gas prices going up and more illegally Demoncrats Party's government Taxes going up and more stuff food and our dollars are not getting any value since Demoncrats Party government and president gave over $600 billions and billions of dollars towards Chinnnniiiiaaaa and Russia and Ukraine without telling REAL American black and white people in America and not helping out REAL American black and white people are still trying to survive without any money without any job without any food without any gas to survive on ! I'm very sorry for telling you my biggest fear of no more REAL American black and white people will not be able to survive in the next month or so of the dictator Demoncrats Party Terrorists Organization Group in America demanding us REAL American black and white people to die off .

We are literally doing a Live Episode on the Dr. Cliff Show today at 4pm Arizona time discussing SSD for 1 hour. You should ask on the show. We do Live Q&A at the end of the episode.

My experience is that the R-phonak you see in your list of Bluetooth devices is where the actual connection is made. The other two seem to be for the app? Mine always connects through the single R device and I hear everything in stereo.

I just got the P90Rs and work as a network engineer. The app connects via bluetooth to the hearing aids individually (left and right), but the main bluetooth functionality is only to the right hearing aid. Then the right hearing aid controls the left for stereo sound/answering calls.

you are soooo rite I'm from Jordan and I don't have any problem with English but my hearing is bad and the words on screen is so fast😌

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Both are effective for RSHL, but it is helpful to have an equalizer like in the Phonaks.

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You meant to say " Phonaks," hearing Aides ? 🤔

Sounds like they weren't programmed properly. Doesn't matter how good they are if they are not fit right.

​@@DrCliffAuDexactly well said

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Both. Find the best provider.

YES~~ i am concerned with this as well. overall, it seems like everyone in the comment section hears better speech with oticon rather than phonak. that being said, i remember the last time i wore bte aids 12 years ago and they would constantly shut DOWN due to the lightest perspiration. if oticon is sweat resistant i might go that route.

@@JosephKimJoeyBigTime I have found no information on Oticon hearing Aides being sweat resistant and waterproof .

Phonaks Audio Life model is waterproof and sweat proof

@@romansoldier9 thanks for this information.

@@richa.s9912 Oticon claims their hearing aids are IP68 certified. So rain and sweat shouldn't be a problem. It seemed to work in my case for a year or two. But after a repair at their service center, the water tightness was lost.

He'll say it depends on the clinic you go to which is true also the country where you live as well he can't really give an exact price because it's different for both I should mention I'm talking about the pricing

Why would you want a more complicated app? Signia app is great, especially with the spatial configurator for better speech clarity and understanding.

mileskapper - I'm in your situation - same age - same hearing loss - and considering the Oticon More 1. I'm wondering if your provider did the "Real Ear Measures" when they programmed your devices?

@@jimowen2356 The Oticon More was (and apparently in many circles still is) one of the newest state of the art technologies out there. It was my first hearing aid ten months ago and I never questioned the 'experts' who sold them to me and adjusted them. Long story short, maybe it's the guy who adjusted them once based on my hearing test, but I find them a total disaster. It seems the ambient noise goes up when I turn them up in a crowded restaurant. I leave with a headache. I started to research Phonak 90R's. This is the latest directional mic technology and the more I read the more impressed I am. Of the five providers in my area who take insurance and are exclusively Phonak dealers I have found one I trust. Keep in mind I am looking at the Phonak Lumity 90R's, NOT the Paradise model the Oticon's are measured against above. The lumity 90R has gotten great reviews dealing with the issue I mentioned before. I free lance as a stage manager for corporate events and my plate is full until the first week of March. Once I am available the first week of March my intention is to try the Lumity 90R's for the 45 day trial and see what happens! One thing Phonak has going for it is they are owned by the same company who owns Sennheiser microphones. In my world thats' a big plus as Sennhiesers are considered state of the art! We'll let you know what i find out.

This has been my experience so far as well. The Oticon software doesn't seem to do a very good job of picking out who is talking.

I can't find any friend name Roger that wants to be on board with me . So what about Jim and Shane they can be on board with me?!

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The Sansung tablet does not show "show more"

No, it cannot. You can pair to multiple devices but they can't both be actively connected at the same time.

@@DrCliffAuD being able to be connected to my iPad and phone is a huge feature for me and probably a dealbreaker. I am trying out the Phillips HAs from Costco here in Canada basically Oticon. I spoke with tech support and was told they should be able to connect to both devices but they can’t make it work.

@@waynebeck7801 they don't. You're wasting your time.

i have a connect clip which I do not use because i changed to Phonak, nearly new condition.

Didn't realize they stopped. Is that just a rumor or has it been confirmed?

@@DrCliffAuD I went in to have my hearing aids adjusted and was seen by a technician who told me that Costco has replaced their audiologists with technicians.

@@sharronlynneharmening170 interesting, I will reach out to my Costco Audiologist friends to confirm.

@Sharron Lynne Harmening, just confirmed through a bunch of Costco Audiologists that they are still employed by Costco. Not sure why your provider made that claim.

@@DrCliffAuD I have heard several AuDs make that claim. They are trying to discourage people from going to Costco. There are a few crooks in the field of audiology.

They can last as long as you want them to. The 5-7 years is on average.

Good point. I can hear with the actual aid in noisy environment. But the phone call level is not great in noisy environment.