This was the grand re-opening of the ENHS Thomas A. Edison National Historic Site. A demonstration on the museum grounds of an acoustic recording onto a brown wax cylinder and then played back. ~ OCTOBER 10, 2009
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@patricktheil88443 жыл бұрын
So that's how music in 2009 was made. Crazy to think how far we've come
@wachamcaulid2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@sarnnox Жыл бұрын
Ikr
@leonardothefabulous3490 Жыл бұрын
We ARE the future!!
@richardhall412211 ай бұрын
Have we really advanced? The boom, boom, boom that passes as music belongs in the stoneage.
@AndrewSteffenHB2 ай бұрын
🤣
@DeadKoby7 жыл бұрын
It's nice to hear what a fresh cut sounded like... without 100 years of age on it. It's better fidelity than one would expect.
@racheln85633 жыл бұрын
Precisely what I was thinking-it’s the next best thing to actually being in the Edison studio in the early 1900s. The level of clarity shocked me too.
@stevegaming20063 жыл бұрын
like ya cut g
@samspace19973 жыл бұрын
Which makes me think how many of these (what last at least) of these cylinders sounded so good back in the day 🥺
@raynemichelle2996 Жыл бұрын
It still sounds old times tho
@gunier.j.kintgenanimations10 ай бұрын
@@raynemichelle2996 I mean, you can't exactly expect "Hi-Fi" out of an old cylinder record. Keep in mind, Tomas Edison only got the patent for his lightbulb in 1878, 10 years after the hardware on display here had first been invented. You must admit though, It sounds a lot better being fresh off the recording lathe than if it were a real cylinder record from the time period. Case & Point, here's a recording on brown wax from the 1890's; notice the improved fidelity in comparison. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mZaUfcZo0LaYoIE.html&ab_channel=TimGracyk
@fretkillrlives10 жыл бұрын
No electricity required! I've recorded on wax cylinder. Edison's acoustic phonograph made possible the thousands of recordings that are now over a century old. These records (cylinders) are amazing audio time capsules that enable us to hear musicians and singers from the late 1800's to the 1920's. Long live Edison.
@normanpolland79228 жыл бұрын
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@mattyshredz10718 жыл бұрын
I think the only thing that needs electricity is the spinning.
@fretkillrlives8 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. Phonographs and gramophones from this era were mechanically powered by wind-able spring motors much like a mechanical watch or clock. The user must wind up the phonograph using the crank handle on the side of the unit before playing a cylinder or disc. The rare exception was Edison's Dictaphone cylinder recorder used for office dictation and were powered by electrical motors for convenience. See a spring motor rebuild at watch?v=kCI4k-XBpS4
@ZiggyCashmere7 жыл бұрын
Edison is a thief.
@runforitman7 жыл бұрын
Who's gonna be the one to tell him Edison is dead?
@rEdf1968 жыл бұрын
I would love to see cylinder recordings of hardcore punk rock.
@rcamels30427 жыл бұрын
rEdf196 there is a cylinder recording of electric music! I don't have a link so you'll have to google it :P
@cron2057 жыл бұрын
like I've been trying to tell people the old is the new
@rockboy3606 жыл бұрын
that's exactly what I always think when I see this stuff.
@EduardRitok6 жыл бұрын
in stereo :D
@TheProbewizard6 жыл бұрын
If you go on Rob Scallon’s channel, soon he’ll post a metal song recorded on wax
@MrTimber10111 жыл бұрын
We were present at this demonstration when they reopened the Edison laboratories after renovations. Since the demo was outside, it was necessary to use a microphone, amplifier, and speakers to amplify the playback of the cylinder recording. By the way, the recording was remarkably clear and very impressive, giving a good idea of the quality of Edison's technology in the late 1880s and beyond.
@solarman3503 ай бұрын
Hot Tuna sang a good version if this song.
@minoanlight45455 жыл бұрын
No electricity needed, just energy of the soundwaves doing the work. Marvelous.
@ethzero10 жыл бұрын
A cookie for the guy in the audience at 8:45 that says: "it sounds like an old recording"... *facepalm*
@imnegan72757 жыл бұрын
fat Americans...
@runforitman7 жыл бұрын
Patrick Allen I literally saw this comment right as he said it
@ColHogan-le5yk6 жыл бұрын
I'm Negan okay then
@speedyrob66516 жыл бұрын
Patrick Allen More like a neck
@yasirsaheed6 жыл бұрын
I wonder how a new song would sound, when recorded on to wax like this!
@jessie4pink6157 жыл бұрын
as a kid I would of found this incredibly boring to stand thier and watch this and never understand why my parents like vinyl records etc but now I find it incredibly fascinating. clever how a series of grooves can reproduce music so perfectly.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie90175 жыл бұрын
Lots of audiophiles prefer vinyl to CDs/MP3s.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Жыл бұрын
@KING VICTROLA I don't have any channel info that I'm aware of
@blitzv108 жыл бұрын
is this a new level of hipster i haven't heard about
@ArtifactAttic8 жыл бұрын
+blitzv10 Yes. But it's been around non-stop for well over 100 years. "Hipsters" are just now finding it out... yes, they'll ruin it in some way as they always do, but at least they're starting to appreciate it. ("Hipsters" ruin record collecting and other long-term technologies and artistic mediums by changing the terminology and misunderstanding various facts, then replacing the original, accurate, information with their error-poisoned misunderstandings.)
@michaelcraig94497 жыл бұрын
However, real hippies.. actually like stuff and appreciate how it is..and try to learn the real deal of whatever it is..
@lizichell27 жыл бұрын
ArtifactAttic I agree
@Discrimination_is_not_a_right7 жыл бұрын
Edison was a "hipster"? Who knew.
@alexsinclair20126 жыл бұрын
@Discrimination is not a right, Butt hurt pretentious liberal asswipe hipster detected.
@therealkindle536510 жыл бұрын
Amazingly simple but effective technology. Really puts it in to perspective.
@ryotech1111 жыл бұрын
That guy on the guitar. He's amazing.
@katejudson89073 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why recorded/popular songs got locked into a 3 and a half minute length. Thanks Edison.
@bikingforbrie11 жыл бұрын
I love the warble - such a classic sound.
@Ecksterphono12 жыл бұрын
Melt about 2 cups beef tallow, Mix in 2 teaspoons of powdered graphite, While stirring pour in your water caustic lye solution (like making soap). take a toilet paper cardboard dip it twice into the solution before it saponifies, let it harden, shape it to size make a plaster mold so it fits the mandrel. shape and shave the cylinder and voila you have a blank cylinder for recording
@emily59685 ай бұрын
I know its been over a decade, but is there any chance you could make a tutorial?
@Ecksterphono5 ай бұрын
@emily5968 . It worked. However I forgot one important step all my blanks separated the glycerols over time. One has to do Trans esterification of the filtered tallow to get the glycerols out of the tallow. And right now I don't live in a location that's feasible to do this. My friend in a small town south of me is super busy now. If I ever get a chance to get a good ventilated shop I will do the process over again. And I will put up a private video. There's a few more processes after the finished product. Also I'm not going to devulge in the extra secret ingredients I use. That method was just basic. I have 2 5 gallon pails of rezin from a certain tree that grows in abundance here that needs to be processed ( the secret ingredient) that I add to the Trans esterifided finished product afterwards.
@BertieW0oster11 жыл бұрын
Cool to hear how it really sounded followed by the recording.
@04dram043 жыл бұрын
What blows my mind is how loud it is. Purely mechanical!
@SyedAllIn6 жыл бұрын
100% mechanical recording ! Truly Masterpiece !
@marleyfuller66176 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to see Dwight got a job as a park ranger. He's always loved nature.
@Superstarseven8 жыл бұрын
The guy playing Edison is an actor by the name of patrick garner, you might remember him as Chad's dad from the Mad Real World sketch on Chappelle's Show.
@MasterManny1877 жыл бұрын
Lmao he's the one that gets stabbed
@gerica2213 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I need to get to this museum with my kids. I visited it many years ago when I was a kid. I bought a wonderful Edison transitional Model B phonograph from a guy named Tim! It is a beautiful piece of machinery!
@Phonophan14 жыл бұрын
@rweerakkody4565 Exactly, yes. This was their "grand re-opening" weekend after renovations that kept the museum closed for nearly 6 years. He didn't necessarily impersonate Edison, just was a look-alike walking around the grounds.
@Stixnstonez498 жыл бұрын
Dwight Shrute in the wild
@spacemissing6 жыл бұрын
Early records of all types had so much flutter that I can't imagine listening to them very long without experiencing severe fatigue.
@kodinamsinh1267 Жыл бұрын
lol imagine a quartz locked direct drive cylinder machine, i wonder what that would sound like
@spacemissing Жыл бұрын
@@kodinamsinh1267 Someone did, years ago. Look up "Archeophone".
@andrednz10 жыл бұрын
That black cone sure has some moves...
@markuslebt9 жыл бұрын
and i thought 4-track was retro...
@redshifteightpoint68 жыл бұрын
Wonderful demonstration! Thank you for posting!
@andersj.gonzalez48234 жыл бұрын
Hello from Cuba!!! This is so amazing!!! I wish I could find one of those cylinder phonographs here in my country... So far only vinyl and shellac records!!! I will keep looking... Great demonstration! Thanks!
@martelojuniormiguel19688 жыл бұрын
VERY GOOOOD FOR ORIGINAL SOUND HISTORY NO DIGITAL
@Phonophan12 жыл бұрын
Horns don't get all that much bigger... and being outdoors on a windy day in front of an audience are all factors for using a microphone.
@TheAGCteam8 жыл бұрын
This whole video is amazing.
@TheEnchantedTesticle3 жыл бұрын
3:39 It sound like he was singing a ni**** is a ni**** at first 😂
@Tonceitoys3 жыл бұрын
Guess I'm not the only one, lol
@ivyssauro12310 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! thank you for that! incredibly interesting!
@FarhanAmin1994 Жыл бұрын
If I am not mistaken, the original rendition was in the key of C and the final one seems to be in C + 30 cents, i.e., only a minor pitch shift. I didn’t note if there was a tempo shift but if it was there, it was pretty likely minor. But the recording did manage to make the guitar sound a bit like a mandolin and ig somewhat altered the singer’s timbre as well. Goes to show you that different harmonics are "caught" to different extents on the wax. Still overall, an unimaginable and near-magical feat.
@joseislanio8910 Жыл бұрын
It's analog, so a chance in pitch is accompanied with an equivalent change in tempo.
@FarhanAmin1994 Жыл бұрын
@@joseislanio8910Aha
@aronricardovideo4 жыл бұрын
Que delicia ver y escuchar como traen de vuelta a la vida estos tesoros! GRACIAS POR COMPARTIR CON TODOS NOSOTROS!
@MarkMphonoman10 жыл бұрын
Very cool video, great entertainment. I was surprised at how good the recording came out. Great quality for a 100 year old talking machine.
@march11stoneytony2 жыл бұрын
The recording quality for dialogue is exceptional.
@JaydenLawson2 жыл бұрын
What a great demonstration - thanks!
@rikvee7 жыл бұрын
excellent demonstration, thank you!
@rweerakkody456514 жыл бұрын
@Phonophan79 a bystander hired to act as Edsion. wow thats a long time: 6 years to renovate a museum. well thats nice to welcome the opening of a worthful museum by surprising the public with pre-sound recording (amidst the modern sound recording techniques). thanks for uploading this.
@crtsaretubular39405 жыл бұрын
Only 1880s kids will remember.
@ilove-tv2jm Жыл бұрын
720p in 2009 that is ahead of its time.
@retroryan8386 ай бұрын
I always find it strange when I see such a clear image in KZfaq video before 2010.
@LidiaBatista16 жыл бұрын
This is SO amazing!!
@LouiePlaysDrums14 жыл бұрын
Amazing history lesson. Thank you for sharing!!!
@renemies782 жыл бұрын
So darn cool! Thanks for sharing.
@jamesmiller41844 жыл бұрын
And thus the one moment-in-time is preserved for ever-and-all-time! . : .
@jaydenmontgomery3912 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly clear
@Captofthisship3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@SebinkaTV5 жыл бұрын
a classic video! I watch it a lot! I love it!
@jerryg50 Жыл бұрын
Impressive! This was a huge breakthrough during its time. Before this invention no human or living thing was able to hear recorded and reproduced sound of any type.
@darcenumdah8 ай бұрын
That recording would last longer than any mobile phone
@seppomuppit8 жыл бұрын
Cool video, the people talking constantly in the background during the demonstration are pretty annoying.
@metekocasall24568 жыл бұрын
+seppomuppit no respect to edison :)
@vikingsofvintageaudio74706 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video!
@eclecticdufus12 жыл бұрын
He's eight about the metallic soap compound. NEVER try and clean even a sturdier post 1902 black wax cylinder under the tap. It will fall apart in your hands. I know :((
@butterbean41954 жыл бұрын
simply awesome
@kadengrossman6252 Жыл бұрын
i remember visiting edison’s lab in the ford museum and greenfield village. the brought out a phonograph and did a recording of “ mary had a little lamb.” when it played back… i was blown away. i had shivers. it was so cool. i could hear the woman’s voice. in that cylinder. no electronics. so. FREAKING. COOL! my little nerd brain exploded. i imagine that’s how people of that day felt when the heard RECORDED SOUND!!!!!!!! 🤯🤯
@swanniG214 жыл бұрын
This is awesome!
@FukiMakai4 жыл бұрын
In fact it sounds like 1920s. But the impressive thing is how this piece of primitive technology of late 1800s still works. And so, how it sounded when new (taking in count the actual old records are pretty damaged, like play a wasted vynil)
@darrenbrown398510 жыл бұрын
This is awesome
@kraftpr10 жыл бұрын
audio technology has sure come a long way since these infancy days of recording
@thatretrocattt5 жыл бұрын
I love these photographs, I find them as great monarchs of the past (including the first light bulb).
@Chungustav4 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@HistoryandFacts4 жыл бұрын
Incredibly facinating
@EMGColonel14 жыл бұрын
The "Collector" from England mentioned is Mr Paul Morris of Exeter.
@kinkykane060711 жыл бұрын
waw that's awesome. I really like the sound quality. It would be awesome to create an album with this device :) Funny thing is bioshock infinity brought me here with the kinetoscope and the beginning song After You've Gone by Marion Harris . I found it fascinating :) I'm going to learn more about the Kinetoscope :)
@thealmightyaku-41532 жыл бұрын
What's really crazy, is that recording, uploading and watching this on youtube, is just a different way to do pretty much the same thing.
@kidsarefuture4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video of Phonograph, i do teach media technologies. So this is very helpful to understand cylinder recorder and player. Thanks for sharing.
@shortstuffstumpleson9 жыл бұрын
If you enjoy this, also go and search for "Recording the Bat City Six" by Semper Phonograph Company. It's a studio band comprised of members of East Side Dandies and Thrift Set Orchestra here in Austin, TX. Recorded in my living room, sounds authentic!
@aronricardovideo7 жыл бұрын
Excelente trabajo hacen ustedes, al dar a conocer a las nuevas generaciones las maravillosas creaciones de la mente humana! Congratulaciones.
@EMGColonel14 жыл бұрын
Yes - that's him and he's a major force in the "Phonograph world " in the UK - sadly in severe decline. He makes all sorts of Wax Cylinders - including Concert ones
@user-co7nf5vc8i Жыл бұрын
great experiment! great reproduction!
@Alexn106711 жыл бұрын
great demo, see how it was done and sounded 100 years ago
@Ecksterphono12 жыл бұрын
This is amazing
@salimkumar97484 жыл бұрын
Thanks for you
@cfranko18606 жыл бұрын
"Only 90's kids will remember"
@hashbuckets5 жыл бұрын
Pajeet Ahluwalia this was 1890s..
@AndYetAnotherView9 жыл бұрын
Cylinder Preservation and Digitization Project, University of California at Santa Barbara enables you to download mp3s of historic wax cylinder recordings: cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/
@Borriaudio11 жыл бұрын
A very good recoding, a guitar is particularly difficult to record acoustically. Yes the blanks are an aluminum soap, with some wax to keep them from being hygroscopic.
@latourhighendaudio10 жыл бұрын
Anyone know how they were replicated in mass quantities ? Played back on another player that would trace the original groves ? One by one or how ? interesting
@juliacox537010 жыл бұрын
Starting in 1902 they were able to create a mold from the original recording that could be used to produce copies on a large scale without a phonograph. Before that, they weren't really mass produced; the earliest cylinders were created from unique recording sessions.
@fretkillrlives10 жыл бұрын
Search wikipedia for "Phonograph cylinder" for all the answers.
@jaimemarin2211 жыл бұрын
Now Im thinking in .. ¿What is HI- Fi ?....In that cylinder. Great accoustic memory recorded. Fantastic invention of Mr Edison & Berliner ....!!!!!!!
@VIVOLITV6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Hi from florence Italy
@MrComputerfan10 жыл бұрын
Awsome and Interesting!
@moow9506 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it is possible to use Artificial Intelligence (AI) to reconstruct a hifi recording out of old wax roll recordings by feeding it recordings like in this video with a hifi and a wax recording of the same music event. By giving it lots of examples it may be able to clear all the noise/ticks and synthesize the missing information in the wax recording to elevate it to a hifi version.
@thomase1312 жыл бұрын
Very interesting demonstration. I don't understand why they would use a microphone when playing it back. Couldn't they have just used a machine with a bigger horn? Sure makes sense to me!
@BlackPatti78s Жыл бұрын
The bigger the horn the higher the pressure on the cylinder, which will cause wear on the cylinder extremely quickly and destroy the grooves.
@michaelcraig94497 жыл бұрын
Please show us how to make one and do this stuff.. that would be the coolest thing ever.
@PartiZan19927 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for HD Audio! =)
@notconsenting66336 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@hemantparakh89954 жыл бұрын
I would like to Double up the number of Wax Cylinders in the Edisson Museum so kindly suggest a suitable working platform
@leonardothefabulous3490 Жыл бұрын
SO cool. Can't beat "hands on" -anything. Wondering if they dropped the cylinder into an ice bath might it help with crisper playback??
@Bartolome.j.simpson6 жыл бұрын
6:00 Whats that? I mean what is he using for the brushing of wax cylinder ?
@panda-goat5 жыл бұрын
It's a soft bristle brush to brush off the shaved off wax. The recorder carves the groove, so wax goes flying off and onto the cylinder. That's why he's blowing on the cylinder while its recording, so that the shaved wax doesnt build up
@jesusalbertogarzagarcia8131 Жыл бұрын
Esta super bueno
@DimbleWally11 жыл бұрын
Very nice song, I must say.
@wellylhakim36196 жыл бұрын
Really awesome
@michaelcraig94497 жыл бұрын
Can you show us how to make these? For people that did not study electronics, and want to make one and cut records?
@tropicalhorizongaming54593 жыл бұрын
Im surprised how well that sounds to be honest.
@pdow5210 жыл бұрын
This video: Some park ranger helps Elton John record some ragtime song onto a toilet paper roll.
@NP4Mayans6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@EmmetEarwax11 жыл бұрын
Before 1909 an announcer would bellow the title of the piece followed by that of the manufacturer. Then the music and singing would start. I say BELLOW because sound decays and he had to record audible speech for 5-10 cylinders -at a time, before dubbing and pantograph mass production got going. I've heard remarkably clear & clean cylinders and I've heard ones that were hardly more than surface roar. Listen to "Dixie" played by Issler's orchestra here.
@EmmetEarwax11 жыл бұрын
Well, this cylinder turned out remarkably easy to listen to & understand. A little needle scratch due to the imperfections of a wax (resin) cylinder, but remarkably clear and crisp. The spoken intro was pre-1909ish as the spoken announcement was dispensed with in that 1909. Had cylinder records maintained their popularity past 1929, we might have had electrically recorded cylinders with microphones instead of horns.
@emamargaritadejesus77072 жыл бұрын
Alguien puede decirme còmo se llama el cantante y la canción? Can someone tell me the name of the singer and the title of the song?
@FarhanAmin1994 Жыл бұрын
Someone ought to make a Netflix series on the gramophone. I mean like a docu-drama. 🥺