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The #1 Problem I See in Adult Piano Learners

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Жыл бұрын

While this doesn't apply to absolutely everyone, I've seen this problem enough (both in person and in comments online) that I felt I needed to make a video about it! Let me know your thoughts in the comments below!
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@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
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@ericaatkinson1503
@ericaatkinson1503 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video and I think many of us can relate to this. In my younger years, I took lessons off and on, and I was able to play more advanced pieces reasonably well before having a 12-year gap away from the piano. I learned that "adulting" and music lessons can be quite tricky to maintain. : ) Nonetheless, life without piano was less joyful, so I got myself back on track. My return to piano about 3 years ago has been filled with exciting moments, a great sense of accomplishment, and also many hours of frustration...all of which have been worth it because the other end of that path means I can play music once again. I always try to give myself a little grace when I'm feeling frustrated. I have to remind myself that "business" comes easier to me because it's what I do for a living and it's where I've devoted most of my time in prior years. Sometimes progress feels stalled and it can be discouraging. But... I've also played enough in my life to remember that quite often, progress happens in 'bursts' that can accelerate quite rapidly when a piece really starts to finally come together. There are no shortcuts for time and patience to develop skills that brings us to those moments. I have finally surrendered to this fact and it makes life easier. :) Just in the past 2 weeks, I've been able to experience this once again with a piece I am finishing. It's the Melody (Dance of the Blessed Spirits) from the opera, Orfeo ed Euridice. It's such a beautiful piece and I was so drawn to learn it. I'm "not great" at sight reading and this Sgambati arrangement has been painfully difficult for me to read through. I knew going in that the piece was a bit beyond my grasp in some ways, but not so far out of reach that I couldn't get there. At times I've been very frustrated at how long it's taken me to play through 1-2 measures well in some cases. Some of the hand positions just felt very awkward and unfamiliar to me...especially to play smoothly. Experience had already shown me that this frustration would pass if I kept nudging myself along.... and maybe pause to play something else for fun in between those practice sessions that feel especially arduous. I can get so hyper-focused on what I'm working on, I have to remind myself I'm doing this for recreation, after all. At nearly 45 years old, I'm now a "recovering Type -A" personality. :) One day my in-person teacher said "do you actually realize how difficult this piece is? There are a lot of challenging things to grasp here. When you finish this, it will be a major accomplishment and other things will feel easier." I kept this in mind and kept devoting more time to it. And just like that, about 2 weeks ago I was practicing and started noticing things were just getting easier "all of a sudden." I went from feeling stuck in my progress during the prior few weeks to knowing that I can play this well by memory when my recital comes in mid December. : ) Just this morning, a trill I was struggling with as recently as yesterday is already now sounding pretty good. Outside of my love for playing music, this is my favorite part about learning to play the piano. There will never be a shortage of pieces that take you through this journey over and over again, and give you the opportunity to share it with others. I hope this encourages someone who may not actually notice the progress they're making little bits at a time. : )
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful and full of gold, Erica! Thanks for sharing! I'd love to hear you play this transcription sometime!
@NorseMan633
@NorseMan633 Жыл бұрын
Very well stated Erica ! I recognize in myself alot of what you've said here and I am also a type "A" personality. However, recovery for me isn't an option. Hmmmm, ...is there a support group for us Type A's or a 12 step program somewhere ? I dunno about that, but I took lessons as a teen for a year, but got away from it. Now 30 years later, I want to get back to playing the piano and pick up where I left off. This time with alot more focus and discipline toward achieving a decent skill level. Thanks for your insight !
@shortbird774
@shortbird774 Жыл бұрын
I'm an electronic engineer and I started piano playing 30years ago when I was 27. The best thing I ever did (after my family of course). The "Wohltemperierte Klavier" is my main source of pieces. It's far from professionalism what I am doing, but it' so much fun and I am surely adicted to this kind of music and the piano. If I would have started 20 years earlier, the likeliness that I would have stopped it with 17 latest is pretty high. Folks, even if you are 50 or 60 go with it!
@PySnek
@PySnek 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I started playing with 12 years and I hated it! I was forced to learn an instrument. The weekly lessons + general music school felt like pure hell back then. A constant grind besides homework and regular school. Now, more than 15 years later, I finally see the true beauty of the piano. I've just ordered a Kawai ES120 and I'm ready to take lessons once again :)
@lee4547
@lee4547 5 ай бұрын
The music has such a dramatic effect. It's like a scene at the end of a movie where the coach motivates his rag tag team to glory with a speech.
@lawrencetaylor4101
@lawrencetaylor4101 Жыл бұрын
A humbling video. Merci.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Lawrence! Good to see you here again!
@angeles3527
@angeles3527 Жыл бұрын
I can really relate to this. I started learning in my mid 40s (I'm now 50) and I often struggle with impatience. The 'surely I should have mastered this (skill, piece, scale, etc.) by now' mindset is still never too far off. It's taken/taking me, literally, years to gradually change the way I approach learning, and to learn to value and savour every bit of progress, however tiny. What you say about progress opening up more questions, not fewer is so true. Thank you!
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see you around many videos on the channel here! It's hard to take a step back and see the little progress, AND to also be ok with the little progress and not always 'massive' progress. But the more we can do that, the more we will end up learning *and* the more enjoyable the process will be!
@angeles3527
@angeles3527 Жыл бұрын
@@PianistAcademy1 Yes, sorry to crowd your comments section :) I have searched around on youtube for classical piano material for a while now, and frankly I'm just very surprised I hadn't come across your channel before. I subscribe to Graham Fitch's online academy and often follow Josh Wright's advice as well. What you offer is excellent too. I won't keep showing up here, but best of luck and thank you!
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
@@angeles3527 You're not crowding the comments by any means! Please, please continue to post here on the channel when you have thoughts! I've very honored to be included in the company of Josh and Graham!
@man0sticks
@man0sticks Жыл бұрын
It’s easy for a young man who undoubtedly learned to play from an early age to advise a person in his 70’s who takes six months to learn a simple piece of music to “be patient.”
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Should experience be judged on age alone? Would my nearly 20 years of teaching adults over 60 carry more weight if I were also 40 years older but still "only" had 20 years of experience? It's far from being patient like taking 6 months to learn pieces, which is actually quite a short amount of time if we are talking about Beethoven Sonatas or Chopin Etudes. Even professional concert pianists cite taking 6 months to learn single Chopin Etudes. It's more along the lines of, on a daily and weekly basis for a great many years, I've seen my adult students want to "perfect" the task I give them within 5 minutes during lesson time... a task that for many students takes months or years to develop, somehow they expect to accomplish in 5 minutes. It's just not going to work, no matter the age, and even possibly despite the age, according to neuroscience. I'm not trying preach about it, I'm literally just trying to help and keep things in perspective for my students.
@beautyintheskies
@beautyintheskies Жыл бұрын
I heard the other day that you need 10 years of study just to be an amateur pianist 😂
@bryanryan4504
@bryanryan4504 9 ай бұрын
​@@beautyintheskiestakes years to accomplish anything significant. While you laugh and pass it off, others get started and achieve.
@cindyloyd8673
@cindyloyd8673 5 ай бұрын
Anything worth doing takes 5,000 to 10,000 hours to master, and the better you get, the more you understand how much you don’t know. You also learn to enjoy the journey whether or not you ever get to the destination. This also applies to the visual arts. I’ve spent years drawing and painting, and know many great artists. They will all tell you it takes countless hours with a pencil or brush to get really good. Learning to draw at the highest level really does take 10,000 hours, give or take. There are no shortcuts in any endeavor worth doing. I find I have a lot more patience with this concept now than when I was a kid. I enjoy the piano practice and the sound of the music immensely, even though there are always mistakes and rhythm irregularities. It gives me immense joy, and has done wonders for my focus and concentration, even though I’ll never be professional-level.
@kaleimaile
@kaleimaile 18 күн бұрын
@@beautyintheskies, I am still a beginner after taking piano for 8-10 years. Lol! I stopped at the Moonlight Sonata, Mov’t 1 piece. Lol!
@serwoolsley
@serwoolsley Жыл бұрын
When you're an adult sometimes it's hard seeing, maybe a video tutorial on a piece of music, or maybe on a particular technique, and understanding that the teacher is probably speaking for an audience that has been playing for 10-15 years when they were kids, and somehow it seems those 15 years are the bare minumum and at that point you have just begun, i start thinking of myself and like 'well i have started not even 1 year ago, this is gonna take so much time', kinda frustrating. At the beginning as i was playing very basic music i would be that student that would have that piece ready for next week but as i started taking onto much harder pieces now when i start it i'm like 'yup, this is gonna take months to master', overall i started appreciating the little progress that i can achieve by simply being consistent in my studies.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
That's great! The trouble with making KZfaq videos related to teaching music of any kind is that... the topic is so incredibly broad and there are so many valid points to make and teach. The answer can never be given in just a video, or even a couple videos. So it's nice to be able to find a wider range of teaching, but it's difficult to know what to apply to your own studies.
@Sincebrassnorstone
@Sincebrassnorstone Жыл бұрын
Someone once asked Pablo Casals why he continued to practice at age 90 something. "Because im still getting better " he replied. I hope "because it's fun" was also baked into his response. I try to help my students notice there feelings of urgency and help them calm into a more conducive learning place. I like your videos🎉
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Roger! I love that quote. And also, it speaks volumes about the life long journey that music can be for us. The goal isn’t to achieve something, it’s just to continue to keep learning more and more. The joy of any journey is in the travel, not the arrival.
@RolandHuettmann
@RolandHuettmann 2 ай бұрын
Well said. And the journey is the goal. And it is all about personal development. 🙏👍
@brendamengeling4653
@brendamengeling4653 Жыл бұрын
I also wonder if a difference between learning piano as an adult versus as a child is the number of pieces one can successfully have in process. When my teacher had me working on only 2-3 small pieces per two weeks, I would go crazy. Now by necessity I’m self taught, and I’m much more patient with myself when I can put something down for the day, and practice a different piece. I’m practicing longer each day and doing a lot of sight reading; AND I’m improving. Chord shapes are a less alien landscape than a couple months ago. Thanks for the encouragement!
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, and for the comment, Brenda! The idea of pacing in terms of learning pieces is an interesting one that you bring up. It can go in very different directions depending on exactly what you're trying to achieve. Sight reading is a super important skill that I think usually falls too far outside "typical" lessons. I'm glad you are doing more of it!
@bunnyhollowcrafts
@bunnyhollowcrafts Жыл бұрын
Great video here! Took your first little bits of lessons on the Christmas series ... seeing blocks, triads, 4th's, 5th's ... last night .... already seeing progress in my regular way of playing!!! Thanks for these lessons!
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Love this!!! Thanks for sharing! I'm glad the lessons are already helping, and way to go in seeing your progress!
@WSJade
@WSJade Жыл бұрын
My experience as a teacher and student is completely different. While you're right adults can be impatient, kids can be too. The difference, however, is that adults have a cap to their ability, whereas kids have next to none. You see this is many areas. Languages, music (both language and sport, so to speak), and sports. If they started post-puberty, adults can become intermediates at the aforementioned, but never experts/natively fluent (I'm not referring to transferable skills, aka. switching from one elite sport to another, rather an absence of developed skills in a given category). I've seen adults put in hours and hours of practice a day only to get tendonitis, whereas kids can put in half hour a day and whiz past all the levels in no time. That's the reality of synaptic pruning. Whatever you didn't use in childhood, your brain prunes those connections. Sure adults can learn, and adults are better at *compensating*, and they can even be professionally competent at it. But can they compete with people who started young...no. So I understand it completely when my adult students are frustrated. They know they did better as kids. They know they couldn't progress as quickly as they once did. They know it's taking forever, and there's a limit to their abilities. And they have every right to mourn that regret and comparative loss of ability. P.S. Love the white sweater, colours/backgrounds, and vignetting.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great comment! Yes, kids are also less patient than I've ever seen before. The discussion about a cap to abilities is an interesting one. In your experience, can you put an age on when that cap starts to get put in place? I get that teenagers are still quite young, but they also aren't kids... and I've seen more than a few start piano lessons late (like 14 or 15 years old) and pass auditions with scholarships to great music schools only 2 or 3 years later. Similarly, I've had adult students that can struggle for months with a single concept (although their practice efficiency leaves much to be desired) while others can literally breeze through things in just a week. There is so much different on an individual basis. Yet I still agree that synaptic pruning is a very real thing... and not just in executing physical tasks like at the piano, but in all areas. Even in my own life, I can "re-learn" a piece I learned when I was younger in remarkably little time, while learning completely new repertoire seems to take longer and longer each time I sit down with new music.
@bonjovi1612
@bonjovi1612 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Charles. Keep up the videos, all knowledge is useful.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Always great to hear from you!
@Northernbreed1738
@Northernbreed1738 Жыл бұрын
Perfect message - thanks. This came at a very good time for me.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad to hear that, Doug! Thanks for watching!
@LADYKNICKOLE1
@LADYKNICKOLE1 3 ай бұрын
thanks, I need to hear that!!
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 3 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@claudiorojas7015
@claudiorojas7015 7 ай бұрын
I liked so much your advices in this video.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, Claudio!
@2011watchman
@2011watchman 5 ай бұрын
Grateful to you for sharing these insights
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 5 ай бұрын
My pleasure, thanks for watching!
@jojomusicnerd
@jojomusicnerd Жыл бұрын
Great video! also love background music, gotta be one of my favorite hymns of all time
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, JoJo!
@Anna-hy5wn
@Anna-hy5wn 9 ай бұрын
I came here to learn about music but gained motivation for other part of the life where I feel stuck. Thanks.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 8 ай бұрын
Love this, thanks for watching!
@aBachwardsfellow
@aBachwardsfellow Жыл бұрын
Such excellent insights shared -- thank you! ( ... and I especially like the background music selection -- thank you for that as well :-)
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Have "amazing grace" with yourself! haha
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Whoops, Amazing Grace was my first selection for background music here, but I forgot I subbed it out with It Is Well!
@lawrencetaylor4101
@lawrencetaylor4101 Жыл бұрын
I'm back watching this video since I didn't master it the first time around. And I know exactly what area I have to work on to make progress. My ear. I'm just listening to chords and trying to hear the differences, and the similarities, but also trying to see if I can keep it in my head. I hear people say they use an instrument to give expression to the music they have in their brain. I don't have music in my head. I hear a constant humming 24/7. I don't think about it most of the time, which is an achievement since I have had more than one patient that literally goes crazy from the sensation. I'm not surprised that when I am able to coordinate my two hands, I hear the sound as an out-of-body sensation. I will try to internalize the feeling and hopefully that will be my progress.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful reflection, Lawrence!
@alisonduffy6206
@alisonduffy6206 Жыл бұрын
Hi Charles, the background music prevented me from concentrating on what you were saying. I have a particular problem with this. Cheers
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, Alison! I was very aware of the music and kept it as inaudible as possible while still trying to fill up the empty space and give this video the inspiring feeling that it doesn't have without the music. I'm really slammed this week before the holiday here in the US, but I'll try and post a non-music version and link it for you as soon as I can!
@alisonduffy6206
@alisonduffy6206 Жыл бұрын
@@PianistAcademy1 Don't worry about it Charles. I'll listen again. I enjoy your vids
@aBachwardsfellow
@aBachwardsfellow Жыл бұрын
@@PianistAcademy1 - actually, because I know the pieces being used in the background music, I found it supportive and encouraging -- it semed to fit and support the message -- at least for me ... I liked it - :-)
@MelodyMaker
@MelodyMaker 9 ай бұрын
Good points sir.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@user-wt5if6rx8m
@user-wt5if6rx8m Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@susiemartin6497
@susiemartin6497 Жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, and yes.
@KlaviersAnthology
@KlaviersAnthology Жыл бұрын
I have been scarcely playing the piano for ten years then ten years later i decided to re-learn it but patiently and minding every detail and i now close to my diploma BUT STILL i catch myself being impatient learning the violin for the past month 😂 i cannot seem to actually respect the devotion and the hours needed to make a good start.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
It's so hard to begin anything new when mastery of something else in life has been achieved!
@finaminana
@finaminana Жыл бұрын
Gracias. Muy buenos consejos.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed and found this helpful, Fina!
@ClulssCrs3310
@ClulssCrs3310 2 ай бұрын
I think as adults, we're aware our time is running out.
@ananthd4797
@ananthd4797 10 ай бұрын
I feel, as an adult learner, that there is this constant feeling of wanting to catch up to those much younger. It can be hard to feel secure psychologically in what you've learned regardless of how much you get done. I think it may be possible that there are certain levels of efficiency which are completely out of reach to even the most assiduous adult learners. I've recently been feeling a lot like my sight reading and ear training are improving slower than I would like -- I listen to many pianists talking about learning sight reading before they could read words, who find reading notes on a page to be about as natural as reading English. That blows my mind, and seems unfathomable.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 10 ай бұрын
I feel as though I understand both sides of what you describe here. Yes, I taught myself to read music at about 3 years old and the way I perceive it on the page looks much more like a language and phrases and statements than a bunch of individual notes. That said, I do teach my method of "seeing" the music to all of my students, who happen to all be adult learners with varied pasts (from beginner to music-degree-holding). Some have an easier time with it than others. Since I do teach all adult learners, I also see a variety of progress rates, but one very common theme is a misunderstanding, or an underestimated sense of time and commitment required to reach very very high levels of proficiency. The "10,000" hour rule really applies here, and it's only as short as 10,000 hours to achieve mastery if you are finding the most efficient ways of learning "A" "B" and "C" concepts, which very often can only happen with a teacher... and not just any teacher but a VERY good teacher. That's 10 years of study, playing an average of nearly 3 hours per day. I haven't yet met an adult beginner who is completely willing to make this investment... OR... they might be willing, but there's simply so much "life" that gets in the way that sometimes they only get 3 hours of practice in one week... not 3 hours in a single day. There's a whole lot that can be accomplished, even in an average of 3 hours per week... but returns begin to greatly diminish upon reaching level 6 and beyond (RCM). I think many adult students have the ability to go further, but the time is the biggest missing component.
@ananthd4797
@ananthd4797 10 ай бұрын
@@PianistAcademy1 I completely agree with you that adult learners can progress quite well. I would say I'm at about a diploma standard myself, and have met others who started as late teenagers who have DMAs. I believe much is possible, but there probably still are limits to what is possible. It's hard to tell how much of those limits are because of talent vs starting early. Concert level pianism may just be out of reach. I understand what you mean by observing the structure in sheet music: you see the implied chords, chord functions, cadences, phrases, repetitions and structure etc. If you see a double sharp you know it's likely the dominant chord etc. However, I can't help but feel that there is a more fundamental difference. That said, I've only been reading sheet music for 2 years, so hopefully time will take care of it!
@relicofgold
@relicofgold 5 ай бұрын
Yep. After it took 2 weeks to master Brahms Lullaby, it was the last straw, I quit. Slow progress is humiliating.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 5 ай бұрын
I’m not sure I’ve ever spent as little as 2 weeks learning a piece of music in my entire life. Even today playing professionally, learning a new program from scratch takes an easy 3-6 months of 2-4 hours per day of practice. When I was prepping for my own college auditions, I worked on some of my audition repertoire for nearly 3 years. Even before that, playing less lengthy and less technical pieces, I think the quickest I ever moved from one to the next was 2-3 months. One of my own beginner students is currently working through the end of the Alfred Adult Method Book, level 1. She’s just about finished with it now, after about a year working through it. Many of the pieces in the last 1/3 of the book have taken about 1-2 months for her to play them well, and I always encourage her that this is completely normal. Learning music is a very difficult task for the mind. So difficult that I’d wager it’s probably the most difficult thing all of my adults students have learned in their entire lives, after very successful careers in a variety of fields.
@relicofgold
@relicofgold 5 ай бұрын
Accomplished pianists can play a simple piece immediately. I do know this: should I ever return to music, it will be without noted music. Noted music is not music. It is translation. Odd little squiggles on paper, converted to tones you get by pressing keys.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 5 ай бұрын
@@relicofgold True, but how would we define "accomplished?" At least 10 years of intense study? 20? 30? More? And did those accomplished pianists play well and easily during their first 6 months? 99.9% of the time they wouldn't. It's the music that challenges us that takes the time to learn, and that's always the case regardless of accomplishment level. Sure, I can, today, sight read pieces about as difficult as Clair de Lune. But when I first learned that piece and it was a huge challenge, it took months upon months upon months to learn it. I wouldn't be where I am today without every single day of struggle to push the needle forward. And my comment about my own practice time today is to say that the struggle still exists, it's the level it takes to challenge me that is very high. And I expect the struggle to be there every day I practice for my entire life. I agree about notation being a less than stellar representation of music, very often today people get stuck only with the notes on the page, which aren't music in and of themselves... and sadly the learning of notation is slowly going away in our modern culture. It's still, by far, the absolute best representation we have invented to relate complex musical ideas from one person to another and most people in the world wouldn't be able to play any of the classical repertoire without it. It's similar to reading Shakespeare... it would take an incredible effort (even after you are fluent in the language) to memorize a complete Shakespearean play and be able to recite it flawlessly. But it takes relatively little effort to summarize that same play in a few short sentences. If we only summarize, is it still Shakespeare? Don't get me wrong, reading a lead sheet and improvising and composing are all really great and serve their own purposes. I wish more classical students had that knowledge and ability. But until you leave the genre of classical completely, I don't think anything can replace fully written notation. I'll admit I'm a bit biased because I work as a composer and arranger and make part of my living from selling sheet music, but it's really the only method I have to "give" someone else the opportunity to play what I've written. And playing an approximation of what I've written wouldn't be playing what I've written.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 5 ай бұрын
@@relicofgold One more analogy for you as well... notated music and the written word are pretty much exactly the same thing. Language. Give a paragraph to a 4 year old to read and they will struggle, probably be incoherent, and maybe even not have any idea what they are actually reading about. Give that same paragraph to an actor to read, a master of their language, and the exact same words transform into a work of art. But just like notated music, it's only symbols on a page. Someone who had never seen written language would describe it exactly as you described music: "odd little squiggles on paper." So if music notation isn't a representation of music, then the written word isn't a representation of spoken language either. Right?
@relicofgold
@relicofgold 5 ай бұрын
Notated music has no emotion. I knew a note-bound player and his performance was absolutely sterile, devoid of emotion, passionless, well, death afaic. It is crystal clear when someone has no passion for music, and they are truly out of line attempting.......they are note imprisoned.
@iliakaluzhny3833
@iliakaluzhny3833 Жыл бұрын
Bravo !
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Ilia!
@akiblue
@akiblue Жыл бұрын
As an adult learner, i have learned more on my own, watching your videos and others, than i have with actual teachers. I find the teachers are the impatient ones or, because i'm an adult, wont push me as much as they would a young student. I've changed teachers so many times because i felt like they were only there to say "good, continue with that" so basically I was learning on my own showing them what I learned and they were just say "great keep doing what you're doing." The other type of teacher wouldn't have the patience to let me finish first before stopping me to tell me that I had a wrong fingering. It's very distracting when the teacher is pointing out your mistakes as you're playing. It's better to let the student-run through it a couple times, then point out why they're making a mistake and what ti work on beyond the piece so that you can improve playing the piece. The student already knows they made the mistake. The teacher should guide the student on how to practice to fix the small mistakes. Ive never had that kind of teacher.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
This is an unfortunate truth for many. One of my current adult students told me that in just our first lesson together, they learned more than in 3 years with their previous teacher. And not just for adult students but also young students as well. There is a huge difference between having a good teacher and a bad one, and… as sad as it is… you’re probably better off learning on your own than with a bad teacher. A good teacher wouldn’t get impatient, they wouldn’t simply correct something, and they wouldn’t just say keep going… there’s a reason behind everything, and it’s our job to find the reason why a mistake happened or progress is slower than usual, and then introduce measure to remedy it. I always want to leave my students with the questions they need to ask themselves during practice… not a feeling of “I have no idea what I’m doing wrong or why.”
@akiblue
@akiblue Жыл бұрын
@@PianistAcademy1 I only wish I could find the right teacher. I also suspect teachers don't like teaching to adults for the reasons you mentioned so they approach it that way to begin with. Communication is key. Thanks for the great channel. Keep up the good work.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching my videos here and I'm glad they are helpful! If you are ever interested in private lessons with me, I do take on new students once in a while. You can always message me through my website charlesszczepanek.com/piano%2Fmusic-lessons
@tonymoroc
@tonymoroc Жыл бұрын
I started learning the piano just over a year ago. I would honestly appreciate your advice and opinion on this question. Is having an online tutor equivalent to having a physical tutor next to you ? I'm at the stage where I would love to have guidance but honestly not sure of its online or physical or no real difference.
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Tony, first off, thanks for watching the video and commenting! If you haven't looked already, there's a ton of resources I've been building out on this channel since April. Take a look around! Secondly, yes, online or in-person tutor/coach/teacher is great. With a camera set up the right way, online-only can be a great help and actually equivalent to having an in-person teacher. Once you progress to intermediate or advanced music, there becomes a greater need to have really good audio on the student side of things, which is usually the only bit that makes online teaching more difficult. The investment into good enough audio gear to bridge the gap as you start to work on fine details of phrasing and musical choices is usually, but not always, more than people really want to invest. If you are looking for an online alternative, I do offer lessons via Zoom. I don't always have openings in my schedule, but I do have a slot open right now and I'd be happy to schedule a call with you to discuss if you are interested. Have a look around my website in the meantime for more info on my teaching in particular: charlesszczepanek.com/piano%2Fmusic-lessons
@tonymoroc
@tonymoroc Жыл бұрын
@@PianistAcademy1 thank you for taking the time to respond. I would love to look into this. I'm 56 and started piano learning everything on KZfaq. I would love to 2023 with the correct focus and track my progress within a year. I have possibly watched over 500 videos on KZfaq but I'm absolutely sure I dont have even the basics mastered correctly. Example... I'm learning Chopin Waltz in a minor. I can actually hit the majority of keys on time but I know I'm missing the foundation. Would be very interested in turning 2023 into a real year of progression. I probably practice 8 hours per week and honestly don't believe I'm making real progress in my learning piano
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
@@tonymoroc I actually released a full masterclass on that particular Chopin Waltz. If you haven't already checked it out, be sure and take a look. 8 hours per week should be more than enough practice to make very noticeable gains!
@rgarlinyc
@rgarlinyc Жыл бұрын
Can't disagree with you here - I excelled at law school and have since successfully mastered (excuse trumpet blowing) the intricacies of much law over the years - yet I continue to strive for mastery at the piano and I fear I may require another lifetime to do so!
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! One of my current private students is a retired attorney! She's quite the perfectionist, which I love in my students haha.
@susiemartin6497
@susiemartin6497 Жыл бұрын
yes. I am a healthcare provider with much experience... but being an adult piano student is a real challenge; I think developing humility is critical, because we are used to succeeding, "Winning" at work and other activities but taking "baby" steps and being at "ground zero" as a piano student is hard....Again, Humility and being teachable are keys - I think.
@rgarlinyc
@rgarlinyc Жыл бұрын
@@susiemartin6497 I agree, you make a good point here about the need for humility.
@tonymoroc
@tonymoroc Жыл бұрын
57 and have learned everything from KZfaq and I'm sure I'm far away from anything remotely what a young student would be
@PianistAcademy1
@PianistAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
Tony you might be surprised that that might not be true ;-). A huge amount of what any student of any age learns is directly proportional to the quality of teacher, and not all teachers are created equal! I've also had adult students in one year surpass what young students learn over 3 or 4 years. Adults usually have more time and dedication to practice than most kids and teens, until they start to prep for college auditions.
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