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Piano String Djent Stick Build (... and Tone Demo)

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@johannrajan3279
@johannrajan3279 4 жыл бұрын
- Mod this as a fretless instrument - Create fret markings - Play in upright bass position - Use some sort of glove next time to go some slides. - Use a sustainer instead of picking, which reduces travel from pickup to fret markings.
@russellzauner
@russellzauner 4 жыл бұрын
use a nintendo power glove wired back to the guitar and you don't even need a fretboard. POWER SLIDE!!!!
@mashilmy
@mashilmy 4 жыл бұрын
It still fretless
@PhillipRaymondGoodman
@PhillipRaymondGoodman 4 жыл бұрын
Chain mail glove
@PhillipRaymondGoodman
@PhillipRaymondGoodman 4 жыл бұрын
Or just be prepared to build up some major calluses.
@ruebene2223
@ruebene2223 4 жыл бұрын
When you started tapping on it. Holy shit. I definitely think this could be the genesis of a new instrument.
@SaidTooMuchProductions
@SaidTooMuchProductions 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought with the whole hand fretting, it was less tapping and more slap which felt so good
@DasOmen02
@DasOmen02 4 жыл бұрын
I got half way through the sound demo when I realised: you basically made the worlds djentiest diddley bow LUL
@BaenaCarcosa
@BaenaCarcosa 4 жыл бұрын
This is insane hahaha
@herberthooverfeetpics4595
@herberthooverfeetpics4595 3 жыл бұрын
A M O G U S
@Thatguy-tm8xh
@Thatguy-tm8xh 3 жыл бұрын
amogus
@lelandmisael2425
@lelandmisael2425 3 жыл бұрын
A trick : you can watch series at Flixzone. Been using it for watching lots of of movies lately.
@alaricjagger4933
@alaricjagger4933 3 жыл бұрын
@Leland Misael yea, I've been watching on Flixzone for since december myself :D
@thatguitarandbassguy
@thatguitarandbassguy 4 жыл бұрын
I would say most instruments tuned this low sound"flubby" but this had such strong overtones,it felt natural, I fell it could be a strong lap steel or drone type instrument. I love the fretless design. I am not a luthier at all but I love the fretless design. thank you for your channel such an inspiration to me
@maxi-js2es
@maxi-js2es 3 жыл бұрын
Ah jeez. Cant scape politics now adays...
@Sanwitch_69
@Sanwitch_69 4 жыл бұрын
Run that thing through a metal zone and you'd have a cool harsh noise project
@johannrajan3279
@johannrajan3279 4 жыл бұрын
Wear protective gear next time working with such extreme strings. The amount of tension is enough to cause crazy damage to the body. Also plan ahead before physically starting the work.
@SaidTooMuchProductions
@SaidTooMuchProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I always try to plan, things just dont always go that way lol
@PhillipRaymondGoodman
@PhillipRaymondGoodman 4 жыл бұрын
Danger instruments gonna danger. But also, danger instruments are the best
@fillyourshoeswithriverwater
@fillyourshoeswithriverwater 4 жыл бұрын
Try putting a drumstick underneath the string and move it around to get different notes
@iopvixens
@iopvixens 4 жыл бұрын
electric monochord sounds kinda sick ngl
@stephenhodgeman6496
@stephenhodgeman6496 4 жыл бұрын
The lever idea isn't bad. Reminds me of the octabass. Also, there's a KZfaq channel called Wintergatan(also a band I guess lol) who does this video on "Cyber Capos" that could give some inspiration. I've always wanted to make a djent stick, but never got around to it lol.
@S745
@S745 Жыл бұрын
This is a stunning natural dark ambient. Thanks for the idea. I will use this in the future.
@tannerkern3797
@tannerkern3797 4 жыл бұрын
You deserve more attention man
@doomslayer_ch4280
@doomslayer_ch4280 3 жыл бұрын
Mick Gordon: **heavy breathing**
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 4 жыл бұрын
Unique way of playing by tapping the string onto the surface
@bgelais
@bgelais 4 жыл бұрын
an unique instrument that can be loved by folks from Einstürzende Neubauten. Remember me their spring percussive instrument.
@THEshaggyrogers
@THEshaggyrogers 4 жыл бұрын
Well done son, your guitar almost rivals my frequencies. I bless you with cosmic Djent P O W E R S
@tannerkern3797
@tannerkern3797 4 жыл бұрын
I miss you shaggy..
@THEshaggyrogers
@THEshaggyrogers 4 жыл бұрын
Tanner Kern i do too dear son
@poppingturtle8162
@poppingturtle8162 4 жыл бұрын
Dude... you gotta check out the band Sleepytime Gorilla Museum. The bassist, Dan Rathbun, builds all these crazy, wacky homemade instruments that he invents, and the one that this video reminds me of is called the “Sledgehammer Dulcimer” (alternatively known as the slide piano log). It’s basically a seven-foot long wooden 2x4 with six grand piano strings attached to it and is played by striking it with a mallet (think xylophone-type mallet). The pitch is controlled by using a short metal rod that acts as sort of “movable fret”. The sledgehammer dulcimer is most notably heard on the songs “Powerless” and “Bring back the apocalypse”. Check out their live videos too. Super theatrical.
@BiRDiEHere
@BiRDiEHere 4 жыл бұрын
I pitch shifted that last note at 11:03 and it's a *G-1*
@SaidTooMuchProductions
@SaidTooMuchProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I'll take your word for it lol
@BiRDiEHere
@BiRDiEHere 4 жыл бұрын
@@SaidTooMuchProductions Being serious, I pitch shifted it up 2 octaves and it's a G-1
@ChristosNikolis
@ChristosNikolis 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very *very* interesting experiment! Thank you for sharing what you did.
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 3 жыл бұрын
Said Too Much Productions Something good that I've discovered was that increasing the scale length gives that thick string more clarity.
@TKDFORCEART
@TKDFORCEART 4 жыл бұрын
"All the way down to Florida" YOU'RE A "FLORIDA MAN"?!
@guerrillaradio9953
@guerrillaradio9953 4 жыл бұрын
The sustain is real 😳. Idk if you cleaned up the tone in post a lot, but I dig the shit out of the dirty tone...👹
@SaidTooMuchProductions
@SaidTooMuchProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Just a little noise reduction, I'm still confused about it.. it's some real piano sustain for sure though
@maegenidyfodolmusic6010
@maegenidyfodolmusic6010 4 жыл бұрын
You do some genius mods man this is fascinating!
@swoozyduzzytgottaloveit2966
@swoozyduzzytgottaloveit2966 4 жыл бұрын
Try some harpsichord wands, or like half drum stick half brass slide. Or try some hair brushes, or drum brushes. Different brush densities must have a noticeable effect on this thing, especially strumming at different angles to vary the surface area of the brush making contact... man, and you gotta Riffs and Coffee this thing and put some love on it.
@Martinarroyou
@Martinarroyou 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds surprisingly....good!
@staz3014
@staz3014 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Reminds me of my 3 string buclet bass i made in my summer vacation. Couldn't tune it lower than E1 lol
@nooralamgir3703
@nooralamgir3703 3 жыл бұрын
awesome
@zupperm
@zupperm 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe try putting finger slides or lap steel bar slides and slapping and sliding with them to get more definition? Or some sort or hammers like xylophone?
@mylesberman1639
@mylesberman1639 4 жыл бұрын
I get what your saying about the niks around the output jack, but it's also a djentstick do I don't think anyone really cares how it looks.
@aarondavis5850
@aarondavis5850 3 жыл бұрын
Players of large lute instruments like theorbo and archlute use shoelaces to extend guitar straps to their headstocks. Seems like that technique could apply here and there are several KZfaq tutorials.
@becketthor6478
@becketthor6478 4 жыл бұрын
If you want it to have a higher output you can put something ferromagnetic on the string where the pickup is
@boogieman938
@boogieman938 3 жыл бұрын
*Motograter enters chat*
@JuveriSetila
@JuveriSetila 4 жыл бұрын
NOTIFICATION SQUAADDDDDDD
@shalissawhojeschowski2873
@shalissawhojeschowski2873 4 жыл бұрын
mhm
@stevepethel6843
@stevepethel6843 3 жыл бұрын
Might wanna wear safety glasses protect your eyes playing that piano string...very interesting videos you are CREATIVE and original. You got skills...great shows Love when you played it almost like a couple conga drums with both hands.
@stevepethel6843
@stevepethel6843 3 жыл бұрын
Sustain???
@hurdygurdyguy1
@hurdygurdyguy1 2 жыл бұрын
Even with grounding the aluminum supports the noise could also be coming from what looks like fluorescent lights overhead... Dave504 be like: "SLAP!"
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 3 жыл бұрын
There are Pianos that can go Higher than C8 up to B8 like that Stewart & Sons Beluga 108 Key Piano that came out recently.
@Weedbringer666
@Weedbringer666 3 жыл бұрын
For quite a long time I wondered where I could find strings that long. Thanks for the insight ^^ I already ordered some to make my own build. How about putting a wheel under the string, like a hurdy gurdy ? That's what I will go into when I receive mine. I think I will operate the wheel with the help of a little electric motor, and put the controls somewhere on the middle of the stick. Two buttons to rotate it one way or the other. I'll keep you updated if you want ;)
@SaidTooMuchProductions
@SaidTooMuchProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting, you can email me at saidtoomuchproductions@gmail.com, I'd like to share how it goes too!
@therealhelmholtz
@therealhelmholtz 4 жыл бұрын
piano string florida stick?!?! NOW THAT'S TRVE FLORIDA
@Elektronijaenis
@Elektronijaenis 4 жыл бұрын
You might want to try that pickup in the regular orientation too... Bass player of metal band called KYPCK has a custom one string bass that originally had jazzbass pickups oriented like in your djent stick, but I've seen pictures of it were the body is clearly rerouted and pickups in the regular j-bass orientation... I quess he did turn them for a reason.
@SaidTooMuchProductions
@SaidTooMuchProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually finding out pinpointing a particular spot is better a tone than the sum of all of them
@kouroshesfandiari1278
@kouroshesfandiari1278 4 жыл бұрын
Waited long time
@somatotomy
@somatotomy 4 жыл бұрын
Tune it as low as possible and play it with drumsticks/mallets. I bet you could get some really neat tones out of that
@insomnia863
@insomnia863 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for Mick Gordon to message you ;)
@BaBaBaBenny
@BaBaBaBenny 3 жыл бұрын
I think it'd be cool to ad a second set of alumium bars but with bends in them, almost looking like stratocaster horns, the upper serving as a place to hang the neck strap and the lower as a rest for playing it on your lap.
@mr.fictionaloxymoron3643
@mr.fictionaloxymoron3643 4 жыл бұрын
That distorted tone is awesome on the C0 man... I need more😂😂 sorry I didn't see this earlier I had severe phone trouble Anyway I'm thinking make a top wing for your chest and start picking a bit past the pickup to go all the way to the end... or grow longer arms lol djent on man🤘
@ChaelaThompson
@ChaelaThompson 4 жыл бұрын
Should do it as an upright instrument like a double bass. Would make sense for that scale.
@MichaelEdwardsGuitar
@MichaelEdwardsGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
The tone you get from it is so rich! I would be interested to see a humbucker or active pickup. That way it would have less noise. Also, I don't know your wiring scheme, but twisting the wires also helps. That way all the incoming interference cancels itself. Also, carbon fiber strips for the truss rod instead of the metal could reduce noise. Also if you want to sit with the instrument you could set the audio jack end on the floor and add some weights on that end. That would at least shift the center of mass a little bit possibly reducing some neck dive. Just some ideas, it is a very tall instrument lol.
@ericwinterspruce0110
@ericwinterspruce0110 4 жыл бұрын
I think we're getting into helicopter territory here lmao
@tomgeczy415
@tomgeczy415 4 жыл бұрын
The Seymour Duncan Apollo pickups could be a good shout for cutting noise. They’re linear humbuckers so you wouldn’t need to alter your routing in order to drop it in
@smooches-the-deathmetal-bunny
@smooches-the-deathmetal-bunny 11 ай бұрын
bout to make a fretless standup djent stick out of drift wood
@rzufig961
@rzufig961 4 жыл бұрын
I expect Golden Gate Bridge cable subcontrabass build in a month or so
@rasmusn.e.m1064
@rasmusn.e.m1064 4 жыл бұрын
You could maybe use a golf club or something to hit the string with. That way the lower notes might be easier to reach. Alternatively, you could attach ball-bearing rails to the sides of the plank and make a slide with a slack lever attached to it, so that you can push it up further than you can normally reach. I hope this makes sense.
@SaidTooMuchProductions
@SaidTooMuchProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Played horizontal you mean? I think I get it, that could actually be a very visual performance lol
@rasmusn.e.m1064
@rasmusn.e.m1064 4 жыл бұрын
@@SaidTooMuchProductions Not necessarily horizontally. I forgot that you can pluck the string further up the neck, so that explains the gold club suggestion (thought you had to pluck the string close the pickup). You can look up "contrabass trombone slide" to see what I mean by "slack lever" :)
@DommoDommo
@DommoDommo 4 жыл бұрын
I think if you cut this string into a 3rd and got a cheap shortscale bass and plugged all of the holes except for one tuner I think you could have a really wild djent stick.
@tylukov420
@tylukov420 4 жыл бұрын
First, string should touch the saddle and nut with unwinded part. It will improve both sound and intonation. Second, I recommend to put the tuner on the bridge side instead Third, as already mentioned in comments, try vertical upright bass stand.
@bearshield7138
@bearshield7138 2 жыл бұрын
I thank you for your detailed build notes. I am very interested in contrabass experimental musical instruments and I am starting to build cigar box guitars. Have you tried some sort of resonator and piezo pickups
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 3 жыл бұрын
The thickest string that Kalium makes is a .266 but this .212 is thinner than that.
@PierreMiniggio
@PierreMiniggio 4 жыл бұрын
Actually sounds decent! :D
@Ucceah
@Ucceah 3 жыл бұрын
you could wire a second, reversed pickup in parallel, to act like a humbucker. (both pick up the same noise and humm, but one outputs it in reverse, so the signals cancel eachother out) stick it where ever, as long as it has the same orientation as the primary one. i feel that would even add to the almost comical weirdness of this instrument.
@kingbassk83
@kingbassk83 4 жыл бұрын
Slapp it!
@mamaluigi1579
@mamaluigi1579 4 жыл бұрын
8:43 D00M!! 2016 😎
@Zawmbbeh
@Zawmbbeh 4 жыл бұрын
Make a kick pedal mechanism that locks into the shape of the stick, in cello position, you have leeway on the neck, and use the kick pedal to bonk the string.
@SaidTooMuchProductions
@SaidTooMuchProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Just rig it on the floor and only use kick pedals lol
@Loperfile
@Loperfile 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe try hitting the strings with drum sticks? Also Idk about vertical pickup placements. It might pick up the string 4 times and that low low tuning might be too muddy. Try to mix in a clean compressed version with a highly distorted treble boosted, bass cut to zero A/B mix. That's all I can come up with.
@wbwillie
@wbwillie 4 жыл бұрын
that aside, you might be able to mitigate the action issues by putting an aluminum fingerboard or something on it, that might also help stiffen it up a bit too
@jonathanmatthews6478
@jonathanmatthews6478 4 жыл бұрын
You practically made the motorgrater!
@PhillipRaymondGoodman
@PhillipRaymondGoodman 4 жыл бұрын
Was thinking wrapping some ferro magnetic around the string just where the pickup is would increase the signal strength, surely if it's only picking up the core then you must be losing some of the bass? Though obviously the thickness of the string will effect the speed of its movement through the magnetic field regardless. Also wiring in a contact mic will give you an even fatter sound.
@darlyngton_nyc
@darlyngton_nyc 4 жыл бұрын
Djent by the Foot
@Liad138
@Liad138 4 жыл бұрын
How you only have so litle subscribers
@tedbohlin8582
@tedbohlin8582 4 жыл бұрын
Add a fretboard to get the string to not touch the pickup while fretting.
@mashilmy
@mashilmy 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you better play that in upright position (like double bassist do), so you can easily achieve the top and bottom frets
@PhillipRaymondGoodman
@PhillipRaymondGoodman 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that with this level of string tension just running it through the body would be better than using a screw.
@AnnaandStanleyFNF
@AnnaandStanleyFNF 9 ай бұрын
There was Guitar, Double bass, Octobass now Sexdebass
@tobiasteichmann5882
@tobiasteichmann5882 4 жыл бұрын
You can use fastfret to reduce the damage on your fingers by sliding :)
@mccloud273
@mccloud273 4 жыл бұрын
The true djent stick, wielder of the brown note. If you could somehow find an unwound string of that gauge and tension it may hurt less using certain techniques and may open the possibility of using a bow. I can't imagine it getting picked up by a piezo, so perhaps a 5 string soapbar might work
@ikestoddard2458
@ikestoddard2458 4 жыл бұрын
Yay! Another experiment I wanted to do! You got there first! PROPS!!! Hey, how about those “dot” pickups for single strings? Can you find them and test run one? They are about 25-cent size. I will try and find a reference. I saw them on upright conversions.
@bkern123456
@bkern123456 4 жыл бұрын
Try a piezo pickup. It should pick up the vibrations a lot better
@thatweirdmusician5539
@thatweirdmusician5539 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin I challenge you to build a contra bass ukelele
@nidefes481
@nidefes481 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe a custom made pickup with neodymium magnet, double coil for hum canceling and two pair of pole piece can do the job.
@rabanomartinez7759
@rabanomartinez7759 3 жыл бұрын
There is something that you can do, you should find a way to put taht stick stand up. Yo can also use something to change the way to play that string (the pick Is not the best option lol) There is a show from the blue man and they make something like that Sorry for my bad inglish tho
@zadtheinhaler
@zadtheinhaler 4 жыл бұрын
Put one strap peg about 18" from the nut, and the other near the pickup, as if you're playing a giant Chapman stick. That way, you'll have better access to the lower end of the fretboard.
@benlow46
@benlow46 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely think it would be easier to play it kinda like an upright bass and sitting on a stool so you are high enough
@shaunrawson6555
@shaunrawson6555 3 жыл бұрын
Will placing the pickup vertically cancel out some frequencies of the string?
@DomZone123
@DomZone123 4 жыл бұрын
you can play the whole album of reflections
@moonchild4806
@moonchild4806 4 жыл бұрын
I think the next thing for you to do with this thing is wind your own string
@danmaycock9238
@danmaycock9238 Жыл бұрын
What if you use another tuner at the bridge for more grab??
@bottomfeederbluescbgs4132
@bottomfeederbluescbgs4132 4 жыл бұрын
Use maple or oak for neck material.
@didi_abdillah
@didi_abdillah 4 жыл бұрын
if Piano String Djent Stick + Pitch Shift Down
@micahhayashida7991
@micahhayashida7991 4 жыл бұрын
ngl this bass sounds like a death grips song
@CableB_
@CableB_ 4 жыл бұрын
Your gonna have to install a leg rest on that instrument
@KYSMO
@KYSMO 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many times you've shat yourself while making this vid by accidentally hitting the brown note! Yeah, not a very original joke... Anyway, great video dude! :D Keep it up! :)
@777fiddlekrazy
@777fiddlekrazy 3 жыл бұрын
*******USE A "WEDGIE" RUBBER BASS PICK AND MAKE A HAND HELD ROLLING SILICONE SLIDE THAT CAN BE PLACED DIRECTLY DOWN ON FRETBOARD TO ACHIEVE NOTE OR TO USE LIKE A SLIDE TO WHERE THE SILICONE 2" IN LENGTH X .5 TO 1" DIAMETER PIN ROLLS ON THE STRING AS YOU MOVE UP OR DOWN THE NECK! (like a miniature bread rolling pin) NO FINGER DISCOMFORTING ISSUES!******* SUSTAIN IN YOUR GLIDES 'n' DIVES WILL/SHOULD BE MUCH BETTER TOO!
@russellzauner
@russellzauner 4 жыл бұрын
*rob scallion peeks round kornar* NEW FOLK INSTURMENTS!
@stephenhodgeman6496
@stephenhodgeman6496 4 жыл бұрын
Also, zip ties make decent low budget frets until they wear down.
@SaidTooMuchProductions
@SaidTooMuchProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Good point
@wbwillie
@wbwillie 4 жыл бұрын
@@SaidTooMuchProductions however there's also galvanized steel wire you can get at walmart or your home center
@bblir
@bblir 4 жыл бұрын
I think a guitar position could work if you made a bigger guitar-style body (like, bigger than a bass g.), and then have this as the neck, but angled. The bridge would be much further down, like an extreme version of how basses have the bridge as far down as they can. So with the body at the traditional position: - the bridge would be like, almost on the floor (additional support for the weight, since it would be really heavy with like 3+ strings) - the nut would be a few inches above your head, and depending on the angle, maybe even at a frettable position The output jack would be kind of a problem, but could be at the spot of the bottom strap button, with the actual strap buttons on the top horn ('d have to be super thick probably) and I guess at around the pickup. Had this idea around the time of the octabass video but I'm writing this now because it's kinda more relevant I guess?
@lawabidingcitizen5153
@lawabidingcitizen5153 3 жыл бұрын
Now bow it!
@jadenblack7712
@jadenblack7712 4 жыл бұрын
It probably wouldn’t have been as awkward if you would have build a body for it
@theworldselimination5638
@theworldselimination5638 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of skate deck are you riding?
@iopvixens
@iopvixens 4 жыл бұрын
13 strings electric guitar tuned like baroque lute?
@RandarTheBarbarian
@RandarTheBarbarian 3 жыл бұрын
That was possibly the dirtiest lowest bass I've ever heard someone intentionally make, I misread conclusion as concussion probably because that was vibrating my brain between my DT 770s... Overall 10/10 phenomenal instrument
@GrumpyTy34er
@GrumpyTy34er 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see these low strings with either an ebow or a normal bow. As one of those "amateur luthiers", levers could work, but what if you used a rail system and basically just made a slide that stayed on the string? Almost like a moving nut but from the top.
@SaidTooMuchProductions
@SaidTooMuchProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, i dont think an ebow will work cuz it needs to make the steel core vibrate all that copper dead weight, it was hard enough on the kalium, one string would be easy to bow with a bow anyway
@SaidTooMuchProductions
@SaidTooMuchProductions 4 жыл бұрын
The sliding lever is interesting levers I can move and just flip down and up might be easy to play if you know where to set everything in place ahead of time
@pedrodargen1431
@pedrodargen1431 4 жыл бұрын
Can you mod a 6 string Bass into a 8 string guitar?
@MrNickRowe
@MrNickRowe 4 жыл бұрын
Building a 7 string at the mo struggling with pickup options... Might have to steel ur horizontal pickup idea
@lilliillliiiljlijjlli7831
@lilliillliiiljlijjlli7831 4 жыл бұрын
we must go lower.
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