First the heated Deni Avdija debate, now this? The Battle of the mids continues😂
@NOBUJORDAN26 күн бұрын
I’ve never agreed more with Riv on something more than I do with this debate. Everyone else is being so disingenuous about how bad Ayton is. It killed me listening to them lmao
@NP-nt4hl26 күн бұрын
As a Wizards fan, I do agree that Ayton is better. Cuz Poole is literally taking most of the shots for the Wizards and playing like ass. Ayton was also given more shots on the Blazers than he ever did on the Suns and he is beyond more efficient than Poole.
@NOBUJORDAN26 күн бұрын
@@NP-nt4hl I understand that, but efficiency isn’t the end all be all to a debate. If that’s the case Zach LaVine shouldn’t be on this list at all. He’s the most efficient player out of everyone mentioned.
@khalidfarah238326 күн бұрын
If we’re talking about who I want right now, then it’s probably Poole. But with how bad Poole has been since last years playoffs with the warriors, he’s been really bad, especially compared to before
@TooCleanOjo26 күн бұрын
Facts😂
@tangerinedream10625 күн бұрын
@@NP-nt4hl A big man who primarily shoots in the paint is more efficient than a guard? Wow who would've ever guessed.
@Shortballa1126 күн бұрын
If you had no idea who DeAndre Ayton was and just looked at his stats, you would think he was an all star
@JorgeGarcia-nb5gv23 күн бұрын
Deandre ayton is empty stats for a lot of season dude poole contributed to winning
@ubereats304726 күн бұрын
Ayton shits on Poole
@luvbreeezy26 күн бұрын
yall be in the most random heated debates 😭
@Averagejaylol26 күн бұрын
Bro riv was pissed ash😭😭
@yeatdagoat17325 күн бұрын
this is why riv should never retire. love the passion
@AnthonyEdwardsGOAT126 күн бұрын
That was intense damn💀
@marcusht735225 күн бұрын
I love ya’ll for this shit😂 getting heated about Ayton in 2024 is crazy
@pemp960626 күн бұрын
Jordan Poole is a fine basketball player, he’s just hella undisciplined If Jordan Poole is bad, Ayton is bad/undisciplined too
@Shortballa1126 күн бұрын
Ayton shoots 57% and averages a double-double. And Jordan Poole shot 41% and did nothing well.
@boubacardiallo594526 күн бұрын
Ayton isn’t bad
@Ant2tufffr26 күн бұрын
Not if you actually just watch games instead of trying to guess whos better. The undeniable answer is that ayton is the better player. Point blank. No debate needed.
@dboii974126 күн бұрын
@@Shortballa11Ayton has the worst motor in basketball, he doesn’t love the game, stats don’t apply to this
@dboii974126 күн бұрын
@@Ant2tufffrJP is the better player he’s gives effort unlike Ayton whose said he don’t gaf about ball
@td564726 күн бұрын
Poole just thrived in his role in Golden State. He isn’t a bad player he’s just a microwave offensive guy. Jamal Crawford/Louis Williams-esque
@TheStrive25 күн бұрын
Mid-off during the offseason is peak
@ralph778126 күн бұрын
Lmaoo this is wild. It’s obviously Ayton who’s the better player right now. Bringing up Pooles accomplishments are completely irrelevant since that was 2+ years ago
@jeremiahsmith770626 күн бұрын
9:57 DeAndre Ayton had a bigger role than Poole. First off Poole was like the 5th best player on his team, Ayton was the 3rd option on the Suns team that made the Finals. DA was averaging 16 and 12 on 67% TS in that 2021 postseason, compared to Poole's 17/3/2 on 65% TS in 2022. You've gotta value DA's ability to rebound, and as a defender he's at least average. Poole is a negative defender. But I expect Riv to defend a golden state player
@jeerell26 күн бұрын
dawg jordan poole was a key scorer(he averaged 24 3 4 as a starter 2022) for their team that showed up for em in that championship run. aytons motor is also the reason why they lost remember they was up 2-0 and ayton couldnt do anything to help. meanwhile down 2-1 jordan poole still managed to contribute his scoring to a win
@joshuacezere25 күн бұрын
Drew: "STOP TALKING TO ME!!!!" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 That killed me lol
@officertenpenny809426 күн бұрын
Mo alie cox vs Austin hooper
@mr.raygunz92925 күн бұрын
Riv fucking killed me 💀
@PattysCards26 күн бұрын
Both players only care about their money and stats. Neither are true competitors trying to win games
@HappyAstronomicalModel-lr5we25 күн бұрын
And you know this how. I actually watched Poole play last season. Dude struggled because he was forced to play off ball in the beginning of the season. Once they put him at PG he played really well. Averaging 21ppg and 5 assists. By the end of the season he averaged 23ppg, 8 assists and 4.5 rebounds in his last 10 games. I hate fans that want to voice an opinion don't know what they're talking about. You're such a loser.
@foreverddix872418 күн бұрын
Dude said he watches the blazers 😂
@mattabomb22 күн бұрын
I'm a blazers fan and the only thing ayton do consistently around here is rebounds. Other than that we don't know what to expect out of him on a nightly basis. Js
@scottenglund148626 күн бұрын
Poole has a chip and was a huge factor for the warriors 😂 ayton is a fkin bust 😂
@trenicksbitch23 күн бұрын
But it’s crazy the suns ain’t been no where without him
@icebergnitro20 күн бұрын
Ayton was a number 1 pick over Luka comparing him to Poole Ayton already lost 😂
@chirocket479122 күн бұрын
Lonzo vs Ben Simmons. Expiring contracts, players both claim they will play.
@marcelllocust290426 күн бұрын
Put this clip in the hall of fame 🤣🤣
@peaceful34425 күн бұрын
Jordan Poole struggled because he was played out of position. He can't play off ball. Once they moved him to on ball his average jumped to 21ppg, 5 assists and 4 rebounds. He then averaged 23ppg, 8 assists and 4.5 rebounds in his last 10 games. Stop it!
@donaldf905517 күн бұрын
If you think poole comes close to ayton, never talk ball again. Hes a good middy shooter, an excellent rebounder, can finish well inside, and is a good defender. Wtf does poole do thay can compare to ayton?
@DirtyBlazersFan26 күн бұрын
The Blazer’s were noticeably worse without Ayton. The Wizards were the same or better wo Poole player. People love to hate on Ayton but he outplayed over half of the starting centers he played against
@eazymoneysnipe25 күн бұрын
Joel was just enjoying the fact that he finally wasn’t in the heated debate 😂
@Bkhouma17 күн бұрын
Also scoring is one of the least valuable skills in the league now. There are at least 15 Jordan pooles in the nba can you really say that about ayton
@HappyAstronomicalModel-lr5we25 күн бұрын
In Washington Poole had a hard time playing off ball. That's why he struggled. They moved him to PG after the All-star break. He was solid after that point and averaged 21ppg and 5 assists. Last 10 games his average was 23ppg, 8 assists and 4.5 rebounds! Dude talking about he's a terrible player. Those aren't terrible numbers. If you don't know what you're talking about, which you don't, you should probably shut up. 🤡
@melthagoat567825 күн бұрын
dropped 3 straight banger vids today sheesh
@juhvoncuffee500922 күн бұрын
Ayton is basically trash but played better without pressure on the Blazers . Jordan Poole is good he’s just not a number option which is shown with this past season . Poole is better .
@Ant2tufffr26 күн бұрын
Riv gotta be a lil bit sped or just refuses to watch the blazers
@cortezflowers346425 күн бұрын
Who posted this video we need to speak rn
@pickaside25 күн бұрын
Me
@cortezflowers346424 күн бұрын
Ur being prosecuted for illegal use of a two way device ain’t no way y’all really made this a topic
@dboii974126 күн бұрын
This is a dumb debate😂 I’m taking Poole everyday I can’t have a guy that’s not gonna give 100%
@HappyAstronomicalModel-lr5we25 күн бұрын
Is averaging 21ppg and 5 assists and playing 78 games giving your all? Cuz that's what Poole did after they put him in the position he's used to playing. Some of you loser fans have don't know what you're talking and have dumb azz takes.
@miib826 күн бұрын
riv on fire ngl😭
@anwari622925 күн бұрын
How does Ayton put up empty stats? Phoenix just got sweep their first year without Ayton. Phoenix don't make the finals without Ayton. They also don't make it past the Pelicans when Booker went down without Ayton. Also the whole Zubac is better than Ayton is wild especially when Ayton has played him off the court in back to back playoff series.
@WheresWaldo0524 күн бұрын
I have three players in the same tier of laziness that i would never ever want on my team. Dominayton Lovepunchpoole SleepyWiggo
@James58Rams22 күн бұрын
Arguing about Ayton an Poole an dude switches the topic mid argument to DLo You lost lol
@LUC4Z36 күн бұрын
All those guys are clowns 😂
@richdreams900626 күн бұрын
Jordan Poole is so disrespected he’s better than ayton
@gamechanger11425 күн бұрын
Nah, Poole just a dumb player and takes bad shots. Ayton often doesn't play hard. Ayton has more useful team skills but it boils down to Lazy/a bit Selfish vs. Stupid/more Selfish
@ajluvsu725 күн бұрын
turning an ayton/poole debate into criticizing dlo is uh…
@ogjames969521 күн бұрын
Ayton right now is better than every version of Jordan Poole
@icebergnitro20 күн бұрын
So which one you picking first overall in a lottery? If you picked neither that’s the right answer
@ogjames969519 күн бұрын
@@icebergnitro that’s true and ayton is still better than Poole 💀
@khalidfarah238326 күн бұрын
I don’t even like ayton on the blazers cuz I don’t believe in his march/April runs (even though he was cooking ngl). But Poole was really bad/mid all season.
@thatonefreerangechicken170716 күн бұрын
11:13 ts insane
@codejjm25 күн бұрын
Didn’t watch yet but as a Suns fan, fffffhhhkkkk Ayton
@woke4926 күн бұрын
Ayton average a double double for his career on above average field goal percentage he's nowhere near bum
@kash12525 күн бұрын
Ayton is 7 feet tall and averaged 1 free throw attempts a game last season. BC HES A BUM WHO AVOIDS CONTACT. Like genuinely he will settle for midranges or pass out instead of trying to finish through contact. Imagine Ben Simmons with less passing and slightly less aggression lmao
@ViCtOrE7731025 күн бұрын
Ayton avg 30 FPTs Jordan Poole avg 19 😂 please stop he’s close to Cam Thomas as a fantasy player Ayton is more valuable on stats and also fpts
@partysover432425 күн бұрын
This is why riv is by far my favorite
@standingroomonly113125 күн бұрын
Ayton was good last year-blazer fan
@RespectSteph26 күн бұрын
Both are bad but capping for Ayton is crazy nb wants Ayton either 😂😂
@jamesquinnelly505026 күн бұрын
Riv gotta keep it more professional if yall want the pod to grow
@miib826 күн бұрын
not really. he’s being entertaining and getting them clicks. that’s what matters right now
@chancethegamer.25 күн бұрын
Riv acting like this is what made their pod grow more what are you talking about 😭
@jamesquinnelly505025 күн бұрын
@@chancethegamer. I’m a fan of the pod and riv but you just don’t see people on espn or fox sports debate or argue like riv. Hes proving his point by yelling and getting animated rather than pointing out statistics or facts.
@chancethegamer.25 күн бұрын
@@jamesquinnelly5050 he did pull out stats tho? He pulled out pooles numbers and they wasn’t hearing him 😭 plus with riv reactions they shit grows more and more not everyone wanna be phoning reactions or “act professional” when they just bros chilling during a pod
@jamesquinnelly505025 күн бұрын
@@chancethegamer. brother riv just crashed out. he was mainly referring to pooles stats and play on the warriors rather than what he’s doing rn on the wizards when they were talking abt current contracts. If you look at other podcasters like Kenny beacham him and his guys actually made it big time bc they don’t start raising their voices and pointing fingers and talking over each other like riv does. Nothing wrong w getting in a heated debate with the guys but if they want they’re pod to grow into the mainstream I’m just saying riv needs to show a little bit more self control.
@miib826 күн бұрын
bro also said what has poole ever done on the wizards as if he didn’t have a 37 point game with 7 assists and 7 three pointers😂but it’s all good
@ghandibanks26 күн бұрын
😭😭😭
@alphabah609425 күн бұрын
These guys always arguing about the most mid players. True sports fans🫡🫡🫡