Pickleball! How to Figure Out Quickly How to Beat Your Opponent! Learn by Watching Others!

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Жыл бұрын

In this video, exactly what players should to do to quickly figure out how to win a game. When playing a new opponent, a team has little time to decide how to best play against them. Watch this video and learn how to be successful in solving the puzzle.

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@AnnMitt 2 ай бұрын

KZfaq placed this video on my feed today. I really enjoy your analysis on all your videos. I'm learning more from your channel than any rec center class. Thank you. 👏🙌

@pickleballpick-apart9787 2 ай бұрын

That's awesome! I'm glad the videos are helping. Thanks for watching.

@nilkamals Жыл бұрын

Rory I use mostly 3rd shot drops, hardly ever hit hard but if I ever play you I'm going to do so with a backwards hat on.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

Haha! Cool! Thanks for watching!

@jimstaub2308 Жыл бұрын

Rory, I’m with ya on the backwards hat thing. Might as well be wearing their shirts and shorts backward as well. Serves no purpose, makes no sense. Good video.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

@@jimstaub2308 Thanks! Not everyone agrees!

@CurtPrice Жыл бұрын

@@jimstaub2308 Some people don't like the bill of the hat over their eyes while playing... and wearing a hat will keep the sun off of your head. It can also help absorb sweat. Nothing wrong with wearing a backwards hat. Plenty of benefits.

@929mmr Жыл бұрын

I think the guy with the hat is better than you think. I've seen guys like him that have an excellent 2 hand backhand with top spin but will hit drop shots with their forehand. Saw it several times and at least once where he hit the 3rd shot drive which set up the 5th shot drop. I don't see a lot of two handed backhand players but the ones that do tend to have really good control with it and like you said are often tennis players. I was told that it is powered mostly by the rotation of the body and more with the non dominant arm. Good ones also engage the legs more. I think the third shot drive vs the drop depends on the opponent. Dropping in front of some taller opponents (6'2 or more) that have the reach and can snap their shots require such a fine window to have an effective drop that I prefer to drive it at them and set up the 5th shot. Long arms sometimes have problems with hard shots at their body.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

Very good points. It all depends on the player you are playing against. You've got to figure it out. This team did.

@mgary3 Жыл бұрын

RORY, would you be so kind as to post some of your games with your analysis. This would help us with on court self awareness, thanks.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

I'm going to get to it. One issue I have is, most of the players I play with, don't want to be on youtube. Haha. Stay tuned.

@johncraig7548 Жыл бұрын

I don't think we can categorize players based on their paddle. I know a guy that has a cheap paddle (due to his funds), and he is excellent. His shoes are old and worn out, but he's quicker than heck. Remember, we shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

Sometimes not. But, those are things I do look for. Sometimes it turns out I'm right and sometimes not, but, I'm able to determine what my opponent is capable of very quickly. I played this morning against someone I never played against. He was in his 50s and was bulked up. I could tell he worked out a lot. I figured before I ever saw him hit a shot, he would be a banger and would be unable to hit a third shot drop or attempt to reset a shot. He did not. He hit it as hard as he could and often did not advance to the nvz. I kept him in the back of the court and returned his drives to his back hand and he missed quite a few of them. Me and my partner returned ever serve to him and not his partner. We won the first game 11-3 and the second game 11-5. Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching.

@MaximumLagGolf Жыл бұрын

@@pickleballpick-apart9787 One of these days we're going to need to see one of your matches to critique!

@dalevoigt8612 10 ай бұрын

If a person has a cheap paddle look for a wear spot on the face of it. That will tell you if he consistently hits the paddle's sweet spot.

@martinschnur5260 4 ай бұрын

Can’t buy a good game

@CryptoVin Ай бұрын

At the Naples Open? lol

@stevegrey9829 2 ай бұрын

I've yet to see a paddle, no matter how expensive, that makes you stand in the correct position on the court, anticipate opponents' shots, makes you move your feet or squat when required, or makes you choose the correct shot to play. Every time my opponents buy new paddles, I continue to beat them by the same approximate margin. I think spending excessive money on paddles should be waaaay down the list of ways to improve your game, but for most players it seems to be their first option.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 2 ай бұрын

I understand what you're saying. However, if I see a player playing with a $40 paddle made out of fiberglass, I know they're not serious about the game. Like most sports, technology in equipment can improve your game. Thanks for watching.

@PickleballJoy Жыл бұрын

Whew! This was actually a better game than I thought it would be. The thin guy in orange was clearly the weakest player of the four. Maroon/White did well to take advantage of that. At 15:56 Thin Orange ran around his backhand; that put him out of position to advance through the Transition Zone. (Rory, it's not No Man's Land; that's tennis.) It cost him. Similar problem at 24:54; he ran around his BH, opening the court for a down-the-line winner by Maroon.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Nice job!

@5ashraf 2 ай бұрын

That tells you he is not confident in his BH, which should be the target. good observation

@Largecanyondog Жыл бұрын

I’m going to tell everyone right now the greatest flaw in pickleball. Warming up with dinks only. The warmup should be just like tennis, ground strokes, serves, volleys and overheads. Why on earth would you try your first serve of the day in a match. It’s soooooo dumb.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. That is a great point. I only dink for a little while while warming up. Then I try to hit at least 10 third shot drops into the kitchen. Then I'll serve three or four times. You are exactly correct.

@Largecanyondog Жыл бұрын

@@pickleballpick-apart9787 dumb may have been a harsh way to say it but it is “pick a part” lol. I would love to do all that but people just want to dink. So I have to go early and hit a ball on the wall

@scottreich1420 Жыл бұрын

FYI, Skechers makes dedicated Pickleball sneakers

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

You are right. They do. I can tell the Skechers that are not court shoes. Thanks for watching and thanks for your comment.

@manntis9118 Жыл бұрын

Show up with a wooden paddle, skater shoes, and a dew rag. On another note, I can attest to the long arm problem, I'm struggling right now with handling 3rd shot drives at NVZ...but can take many balls out of the air on drop attempts. So, adjust based on your observations of opponents and be honest with your strengths and weaknesses.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

Good points. Thanks for watching. Do you really play with a wooden paddle?

@bryanfaz Жыл бұрын

The PB commentators need to correct what a "Ping Pong Grip" is because it most certainly doesn't include the index finger being vertically oriented in the middle of the paddle. The index finger, for a shake hand grip (vs. penhold) is typically held horizontally at the base or bottom of the paddle, perpendicular to the grip.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. So, I've seen recreational ping pong players hold their paddle like that. Am I mistaken?

@bryanfaz Жыл бұрын

@@pickleballpick-apart9787 Well, they would have to be very recreational, as in never played before (or very little). Imagine if you tried to hit a backhand with your index finger in the middle of the paddle. Challenging. I've seen many beginner PBs with their index finger in that position. it must feel comfortable, more control perhaps. Great video though...excellent insights.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

@@bryanfaz Thank you!

@nchambers007 8 ай бұрын

You mention "no man's land" at 16:12 . Basically that's a term that teaching pros never use because the transition zone is often very useful (unlike in tennis ... where they never call it a transition zone).

@pickleballpick-apart9787 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for pointing that out. I think I'll switch to transition zone.

@inApickle_ball 7 ай бұрын

Well done! Is it possible to make the mouse cursor larger so it would be easier to see. Asking for a friend!!! Thanks GOD, Guns & Gumbo

@pickleballpick-apart9787 7 ай бұрын

It's weird. I have made it larger and it's okay when I'm recording but when I render it, it goes back to a smaller mouse. I might give it a shot again. Thanks for asking.

@markheneghan3804 Жыл бұрын

I look to see how big their beer gut is. More than 20-30 lbs, move them around LOB

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

You said it, not me! Thanks for watching.

@Cacheola 4 ай бұрын

The two handed backhand is exploding. Everybody should use it when the time is right. I make lethal crosscourt double backhand shots. More control, more feel. Tennis player, yes. But ironically never double hand. I swap hands occasionally to make a shot and have a pretty capable non-dominant hand, especially in badmonton. I think that's key

@pickleballpick-apart9787 4 ай бұрын

If you played badminton, that translates really well to pickleball. Probably, more so than tennis. Thanks for watching.

@tannergabet8189 3 ай бұрын

Some of these are great tips. Some of them are iffy, and some of them are downright wrong. This guy sounds like a 4.0 haha.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 3 ай бұрын

There are 114 million KZfaq channels out there. I really appreciate you watching mine.

@TheFishwoman 10 ай бұрын

I just bought a pair of the new Skechers pickleball court shoes. Are you saying they are no good and I’m not serious?

@pickleballpick-apart9787 10 ай бұрын

No. Not at all. When I did the video Skechers pickleball shoes were just coming out. I was not aware they were available. I was referring to people who play with Skechers walking shoes. Thanks for watching.

@CrushDani 4 ай бұрын

Sketchers makes court shoes FYI.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 4 ай бұрын

You're right. They do. But, they're new to the game. I'd much rather play in a pair of shoes made by a company that's been making court shoes for 40 years.

@jorgeferreiro9783 9 ай бұрын

Thin orange guy is actually a 5.0 DUPR player (4.98 to be exact)

@pickleballpick-apart9787 9 ай бұрын

Thanks. I think dupr ratings are flawed. There are many reasons why. I think I'll eventually do a video and explain why I think they are. Thanks for watching.

@dalevoigt8612 10 ай бұрын

That 3rd shot at the 16 min mark was not as perfect as you would think it was. While the trajectory was good his weight transfer was not going forward. He got caught too close to the line and made the shot while backing up.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and thanks for our opinion. I appreciate it.

@tricia3114 Жыл бұрын

May I ask, why don’t you you like the ping pong grip? Asking for a friend.

@Bergarita Жыл бұрын

I embrace my ping pong grip!! I tried to switch to continental but I play better with my index finger on the paddle.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for asking. I think using a ping pong grip with your hand all the way up on the handle prohibits you from having any type of whip. Not that you get that much whip with a continental grip and your hand on the bottom of the handle, but you can get a little. Secondly, when dinking, sometimes you want to bring your hand back at an angle and just flick at the ball. With a ping pong grip it's more difficult to do. And, of course, when hitting a backhand, you can hit your finger. I haven't really checked it out, but I would bet if you watch professional players play, I'd be surprised if any of them uses a ping pong grip. Maybe you know of one that does, but, I really haven't seen it.

@aconneen Жыл бұрын

@@pickleballpick-apart9787 I'm surprised the index finger grip allowed him as much good touch as he had on some of those shots. But you're absolutely right that this type of grip limits flexibility of the wrist and really takes away much of the ability to incorporate effective top spin rolls.

@mlee9049 Жыл бұрын

@Pickleball Pick-Apart Pro player Callan Dawson uses a ping pong grip. Pro player Tyler Loong uses a paddle with a longer handle and places his index finger across the handle instead of the surface of the paddle. This hybrid grip allows the player to retain power on their shots. I've seen a number of players do this... Callan is the only pro player I know of that uses a full ping pong grip.

@PistonsFan4life200 Жыл бұрын

1:47 I'm a McGuffin wannabe and wear sketchers

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Yes I know. Sketchers now make pickleball shoes.

@iKumala Жыл бұрын

the woman in your next vid- Men vs Women- is wearing Skechers shoes. Maybe the brand is adapting. Enjoy the videos immensely.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

Did not realize that. Thanks for pointing that out.

@iKumala Жыл бұрын

@@pickleballpick-apart9787 and I was surprised to see Skechers too.

@sherrillferrill7656 8 ай бұрын

In what world are these guys 4.5 players? 😮

@pickleballpick-apart9787 8 ай бұрын

I hear you! It's that dupr rating system. Thanks for watching.

@dhix2388 9 ай бұрын

i disagree. three decades of tennis/a life time of musicianship /and pickleball. Rarely the GEAR [for show] match the talent.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. What instruments do you play?

@redequal7457 Жыл бұрын

You are not as good as you think. Explain why the tall guy gets caught in no man's land after his third shot, and therefore, he gets a forth hit to his feet, which he misses. He hits the third shot while going back because he cheated up into the court after the serve, and thus, he had to move back to allow the return to bounce before he could hit it.

@pickleballpick-apart9787 Жыл бұрын

Nice observation. Thanks for watching.

@CurtPrice Жыл бұрын

I'm going to agree with this. Hitting a nice 3rd shot drop doesn't always allow you to get to the NVZ. Sometimes it's beneficial to get to the line in stages and work your way up in chunks. You see the pros do it this way from time to time. You don't want to force it and get caught moving forward and then have a ball hit back at your feet. You want to be set and be able to adjust to the shot when the shot is hit back at you. Yes, you want to get to the NVZ line... but not at all costs after the 3rd shot. Getting there after the 5th shot is fine too... if you do it smart.