Parts of the video have stutters etc. Most of this was due to recording the flights directly on the headset. It was very smooth in the headset :) although I did get some micro-stutters. If you have the Reverb G2 then economically it makes sense to stick with that for now, but if your looking to get into VR then PICO 4 must be a consideration.

I love the pace and clearance of your speach! Thank you! ✌️😎

Best video on setting up the Pico 4 by far! You saved my Pico from being retired, I was desperate as I couldn‘t get it sharp, even with VD. And now the Pico is close to the G2, you‘re right, the difference is marginal. For me, only letters or numbers in magenta color are a kind of blurred compared to the G2 but that is not a show-stopper at all! Thank you!!

Fantastic review Mark and thankyou for the shout out :) I too, never expected to love the Pico 4 this much. On a side note, you just have to play Half Life Alyx with this headset, it's really phenomenal!! Take care. 🛩️

Buy it, Buy it, Buy it..... Even with my AMD 6800 card this headset freaking rocks. And the face comfort thing has either been fixed or they made this thing to fit my head. I have no issues with light leakage or discomfort. The Pico 4 is hands down a major visual improvement for MSFS over the Quest 2. I think all PCVR games actually look better but I'm only here to talk about MSFS and the Pico 4. I debated whether to buy a Pico since I have and for the most part really enjoy my Quest 2. However there is always this nagging issue of clarity with the quest when trying to read gauges and the screens in planes. After watching this post and others like it I thought I would get the Pico and be ready to upgrade to a 7900 xtx or that other GPU that I can't bare to speak outloud because of the price. However I really wanted to spend my coins on a DOF Reality 2H motion rig. Can't buy both and still have a place to live (wifey would kill me). So I gambled hoping and praying that the Pico 4 could deliver a little more clarity with my sad little 6800(not even the XT). Dude this thing not only kills in the clarity category but I also some how am getting about 20-25 more FPS than before. This is with increased resolution HOW SWAY... What the hell is going on. This is with only 2 hours of playing with settings in Steam VR, Open XR, and MSFS itself. Sorry so long winded but I'm so stoked I just want to let everyone on the fence about this know Buy it. I live in Tennessee btw I bought mine from Walmart on the web. Delivered UPS in 2 days with absolutely no issues. Oh BTW I turned off Upscaling in Open XR and what I assume was the Video Compression Artifacts went bye bye. I do have a dedicated wifi network for my Pico that i'm less than 15 feet away from router as well. CPU is Ryzen 9 5700 32 GB of Ram sorry don't now the speed.

Another great video. I tried the pico4 a couple of weeks back, it really is capable of some stunning visuals but, as you stated, it really works the GPU and my 3080ti just drowned under it, i managed about 1fps at the quality needed. I used the USB-C to Ethernet method of connection and it was solid and fast. I sent the pico back as i am not in a position to get a 4090 yet.

Great video and yes, Uwe is a hidden legend helping us all out on VR issues for the most part!

Was a little confusion around broadband connection. Internet Broadband connection yes for MSFS, but excellent local WI-FI is what’s needed for streaming for the host PC. Ideally the PC is wired to the WI-FI router and the headset connects on 5G band. Works OK for both headset and PC on 5G Wi-Fi, depending on where router is. Great video A+

Excellent video as always. Thanks Mark. Kind regards from Professor Shark🤣

Many thanks Mark, was eagerly waiting for this review. Very informative indeed.

Great content as always Mark. Nice added bonus seeing the Pico interface and settings.

I have a 3090 and the Pico 4, and it serves me fine. I have over a hundred hours flying with it, but yes, if Pico ever released a DP-capable version of the Pico 4 (the 3rd gen version of the Pico VR headset was available that way), I would be one of the first to trade my HMD for that. A 4090 would be lovely, especially once frame generation in VR becomes a configurable setting. I think as long as you lower some settings, you can still get smooth, clear performance with the 3000 series cards.

I've been thinking of upgrading from my Quest 2 due to the lenses and limited IPD selection causing a relatively small sweet spot and rather blurry vision + low fov overall. This may be a contender as it tackles the core issues I've had with my Q2 in the last two years.. certainly comes in at a competitive price as well! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and also the kind words in regard to our Mini-500! Just shared this with the team, they will be very pleased to hear it's being enjoyed in VR! - GotFriends Dev Mykrode

You are the grandad everyone should have. I own the Pico 4, its fantastic. Listen to your grandads folks . Its generally good advice. ps from a grandad.x

First of all amazing video you explained everything quite well. You should really consider seting your VR bitrate to 100 or higher tho, this will make the picture much much sharper!

Hi Mark. Great video again...I purchased a Pico 4 as an upgrade from my Rift S. I run a mid range system AMD Ryzen 7, 32 GB Ram and an RTX3070. I bought the Pico mainly for using with DCS as I had heard good things about it following a lot of research with RTX3070 users. For DCS and my setup I have seen a big improvement over my Rift S. I have used both Pico Streaming Assistant in USB Tethered mode and via WIFI and I have also used Virtual Desktop in WIFI mode only and also use Steam VR. Both give good performance which is further enhanced with your Open XR toolkit settings detailed in this video. Out of curiosity I tried my Pico with MSFS and again I get a big improvement in quality. I am getting about 50FPS and again with the combination of Open XR am getting a much better experience and crucially much better frame rates. I think (as you say) the Pico 4 is excellent value for what you get. What I would add is that I don't doubt for 1 min that an RTX4090 would improve my experience beyond measure but I do have to disagree with you slightly that a 4090 is required to use the Pico 4. For me buying a Pico 4 has been a game changer. Thanks again for the great work and content you put out for the flight sim community it is greatly appreciated.

I bought the Pico 4 upon release. I tried PCVR with virtual desktop, just out of curiosity, really. I was stunned at the quality of the results. I would recommend changing the facial interface.

Can’t wait to get into this. Looks complex but hopefully….

Thanks for this review. I've been using the Pico 4 for about a week and your tips were very helpful. I ordered prescription lenses for the Pico as I don't find it comfortable wearing my glasses under the headset.

Hi I just see your video. It's perfect and clear.

Mark you are the man! Great guide. I'm getting my Pico4 set up now!

Great video. I also bought a Pico 4 after watching Vr Flight sim guy, even tho I only have an RTX3090. I thought I could always upgrade to a 4090 later if needed. However I've found my newly built system- i7 13700k, Asus Tuf 3090, 32gb ddr5 6000mhz Ram, 2TB ssd allows me to run MSFS with Ultra setting and is very playable, However despite my GPU running it on the pico 4 better than expected, I can definitely see there's more potential to unlock so I will be upgrading to a 4090 at some point. Also as far as you needing more batteries for long play time, why not save money and just buy a 5mtr USB type C 3.0 and have it wired! Battery lasts way longer this way.

Really tried with this headset on my rtx 4090 i7 13700 and 6700 Mbs but I never managed the clarity and depth of colour of my HP g2. It's not a bad headset if you've got the right kit but am sticking with the G2 for now. As always great review by Mark,

Would love to move to the Pico 4 from the Reverb meneer, as I love those pancake lenses. But the vrou will cut off my ballas if I bought a 4090 ;) Will have to wait for the DisplayPort version of the Pico4 .

This is an amazing time to be alive if you are a flight sim enthusiast!

Very Good and Clear video : I was able to use MFS in VR with this Headset ! The result is very godd and good point is to record directly the video without using OBS studio or other editing app. I am very happy with it, knowing I will keep the HP Reverb G2 : I need to compare the performance of both devices. Again Thank you Mark for having created and published this very good Video and I highly recommend it to others simmers who want to dig into it, Cheers from Paris !

Very good review, buddy. Keep it going. :)

Beautifull graphics❤❤❤

I'd like to try one to replace my Reverb G2 after seeing your video. Pico does not to sell in the USA, so it is just too risky should I have issues and need to return it somewhere overseas.

With my 'developing' cataracts I am sticking with my single screen Samsung 65"; maybe after cataracts are dealt with eh; thanks for posting and making me salivate about a VR headset eh :)

I have an RTX3060 12gb RAM that I've used for years both with the Quest 2 (4.9k hours in VR) and now, finally with the PICO 4, and I have never had an issue. :) I LOVE LOVE LOVE the PICO 4. Not only does it look better but it also has nothing to do with FB. I also only use my headsets with Virtual Desktop playing Steam VR games.

Great stuff Mark ,another of your video's with a great deal of work put into it! Thanks for an interesting and informative video ,the Pico 4 certainly looks good ,never thought i would see you change from the G2 😀 . i'm still using the G2 and no plans to change as i'm still saving up to upgrade my pc ( waiting to see the reviews in April of the new AMD cpu 6800x3d ( i think its called lol ) . But as HP are leaving the VR space it's always nice to watch reviews of what's new and available as replacement's. Thanks again

thanks this was great

Thank you very much. This Video is very interesting for me.

I have a Pico 4 with MSFS through Steam. I am using a RTX 4070Ti with a 12 gen i7 and 32GB RAM. Using Virtual Desktop. I had the system working briefly can not make the FS work at all. I reinstalled several times but essentially it does not switch to VR properly. I followed the process to set up the computer recommended by others but still no luck. Any idea what is causing this or who I should be talking to ?

this is great most people your age only know pc basics let alone flying planes in vr! so many kids and youtubers totally pass up or refuse to try vr or complain about the controllers or this or that but personally i love it andwish there were more vr sim youtubers out there i have a quest 2 and i was curious if the pico was better or not. btw i fly with my quest 2 in xplane with virtual desktop on my 2070 super gpu and im able to get just enough fps to have a good experience thats with the zibo the tollis gets better fps and the default ga planes more than that but i guess the pico might be harder to run than the quest? but im pretty sure a 4070 ti shoudl certainly be enough to run it my 2070s is leagues below and still handles the quest the pico cant be too far off from that oh and i cant hit full settings i have them turned downslightly

Love the T-shirt 😎😁

Hi. So I’ve been using a PICO 4 since Christmas. My hardware setup is first an Ethernet switch immediately after my computer. Then to an powered USB-C to Ethernet adapter connected to the PICO. By using a switch and Ethernet cables I’m not competing with all the other stuff that’s using my Wi-Fi at home. Finally I can only recommend glasses from VR optician which snaps into place with magnets and I think I saw that they were made by Zeiss which should be a familiar name in optics. Oh I’m running a 4080 GPU.

Hi Mark, Great video, How about the following settings, I7 12700 12 cores, and a RTX4070, 64GB Ram?

Happy for you and that you enjoy it. I recently tried Pico 4 a couple of weeks but never felt it could match the clarity of my G2 at 150-200% TAA and returned it. I can miss the mobility and lenses, but not soo much VD and Steam VR 😊 It’s a real shame Pico 4 can’t go past 3240x3240 (yet) it’s lenses has more to give! If we can supersample the image on the PC side I will probably give it another go. Keep us updated on your experience. Thanks alot!

There is a face gasket by AMVR that is far more comfortable, it'll increase the FOV as well as it is closer to your face. Less light leakage, would recommend. The glasses spacer works with the replacement gasket. I'm using it on a GTX 1070 // Intel 6600K with far less demanding games (HL Alyx etc), VR desktop set to medium, 120% scaling, rock solid 90 FPS. Couldn't be happier considering my asthmatic PC.

I personally use a 3060Ti / i5 1600K / 16Gb RAM / Virtual Desktop app / 60MB/s internet and it works completely fine with medium settings on the Pico 4. I wouldn't say no to a higher GPU of course, though the experience is already superb. DO NOT use the Pico Streaming assistant, the image quality is pretty bad and no settings an be tweaked.

What kind of fps are you getting and how do you get rid of the stutters? I have a pico 4 and 4090. Great video Mark and thanks.

Please throw away your eyeglasses! Get prescription lenses for your Pico4 headset (like VRopticial from Germany with around 1-week delivery, VR-ROCK or VR Lens Lab). The FOV is bigger with lenses in comparison to glasses - your eye is closer to the screen. The sweet spot is bigger too ... as prescription lenses are designed for your headset. Regarding hand tracking: It is considerably better in the new update 5.4.0. It is actually a useful feature especially when you don't use controllers in M$FS. (the hands are tracked once the headset lost sight of the controllers).

Great video. Two things for me to do first is probably upgrade my Ryzen 5 2600 CPU and my RX 5700 XT Graphics Card. Another problem I have is that I found out PICO 4 is banned from the US or at least not available. I tried Amazon UK and the 128g is out of stock. Hopfully I can find one because it seems to the bang for my limited retirement buck. Thanks

Hi Marc, i just got my Pico 4 and i am following step by step your guide! i wonder if there a rule how to set up the display resolution (per eye)? i your tutorial you mentioned you set it up to the max but i noticed in the lastest version one can go up even more (i had to stop at around 4800)..

Asus ax55 router gets rid of the stuttering if it's a router issue.

my quest link cable can charge the pico 4 just fine

This handtracking could become sweat. ATM this does not work with Virtual desktop unfortunately. But i can imagine this is great to use in DCS e.g. to enter some numbers in the UFC, especially when combined with the Winwing cockpit addon to get the physical sensation of touching real buttons as well. I hope it will work at some time with VD! All in all it is great that these options are build within it. Before you needed a Leap motion for this.

For me, when I open the flight sim with steam vr open and running normally, it doesn’t load in vr. When I try to press “vr mode” in settings, it just tells me “no vr headset found”

I cannot start vr in msfs (no Headset connected) and there are no settings under the virtual desktop window. Any advice?

Just wanna say Thanks! don't mind the amount from an unemployment like me. but the guide have proven to be doable (50fps) on my mid spec i9-9980HK + RTX3080Ti of course i set openxr resolution lower to 3116x3116

I got al really blurry image in the Pico, I can see maximum 50feet half sharp, the rest is pixeled, got about 30-40fps (limited at 90fps) and the frame rate showed in every eye is 18-25fps. Didn,t find any solution. got 13900k/(autoclock 6000Mhz), 4090 (auto tuning 2805Mhz) 32GB Ram, all overclocked. Steam VR resolution 180%, wifi 5Ghz connected. 😪

hey everyone im just wondering if i use a usb c to cable connect to my PC will i still have to rely on internet bandwith to use the headset?

I now have an HP Reverb G2. Always keep up with your videos. Was just wondering and your estimate I have a i7 CPU and a RTX 3070 card that I just got a few months ago. Do you have an estimate of how well this headset would work or know anyone that you used it with a 3070 card in an i7 processor? Thank you for your continued help.

Out of curiosity, when you were in OpenXR toolkit you maxed out your override resolution to 3240x3240 per eye. How come you didn’t set that to 2160 x 2160 per eye to match your pico’s native resolution? I’m asking because if you render the game at 100% in steam or OpenXR then override in openxr toolkit to native res that usually provides excellent visuals along with excellent frames. Just was curious about this because I am still learning how all these layers work. For example for the G2 and playing DCS, I have Windows Mixed Reality Open XR tools set to 100% render scale. Then when DCS is running I open up OpenXR toolkit, and set Upscaling to CAS with sharpness at 20 - 35% depending on visuals and your eyes. From there I go to Override resolution and dial that down to match the 2160x2160 of the headset as close as possible. The net result for me is excellent detail and an increase in frames, best of both worlds and what I find to be the sweet spot in optimizations for the G2. Naturally I would think the same could apply to the Pico4 here. Thanks for the video and hope to see you trying this out in DCS sometime.

Have you tried Quest pro by any chance? I wonder how it compares to the Pico 4 (maybe it's a better alternative?)

so wired connected would it be an upgrade on the quest 2 ? anyone

Awesome review, skip the battery pack as it just adds weight, get a powered/charging usb c Ethernet adapter + 10 ft usb c extension cable which charges, improves latency and max out the graphics bitrate and no visible compression.

Amca bu islerden anliyor masallah...

A franc sir that puts in the main title that pico4 needs a hight end gpu (like many other vr sets) Thanks man. Any recommendation for my humble 3070? :S. Currently using Rift s, lol. I prefere them to quest 2 for pcvr. Cheers and enjoy!

Great video! Are you using a WiFi 6 router?

Hola , cual es mejor para Simulator pico4 o pici3 displayport ? gracias

I would like to ask you: are you using SteamVR OR OpenXR or SteamVR AND OpenXR?

Thanks for the video. Wrt Virtual desktop, you install it on the Pico headset but what about the PC ? Does it install automatically on the PC as well ? Thanks !

Pity that the Pico 4 (like the Q2) does not support Local Dimming like the Quest Pro's higher quality screens do. Since the new v51 PTC update, msfs night flying with my Quest Pro has never looked soooo good!

As always, great video. Followed it step-by-step. Took a while to realize I could not use my Steam version of Virtual Desktop. Other than that, perfect guidance. Two questions, if I may: 1. Started VR spring 2016. Kept my CV1 as a backup, when I got the Reverb. Now the Pico 4 will be my new backup. Still prefer my Reverb. When I go back to use my Reverb, what setting should I change? 2. What´s the likeliness that there will come up some third party DisplayPort solution/conversion? Once again, thank you for all your great job by SimHanger Flight Simulation !!!

Guys im having blury cockpit texture how can i fix it on pico 4

Thanks for a great video. Got the Pico 4 now, first VR goggles, so can’t claim to know what I’m doing… Running MSFS on an i9 13900, 5800 MHz DDR5 RAM and an RTX 4090…. as far as I can tell, the setting matches Mark’s setting BUT I only get 12-15FPS in VR… anyone with any suggestions please?

Love the videos! So I have an i9 13900k with 64GB 5300mhz RAM and a ASUS 4090, and 1300w PSU. Are there any settings from this video that you think I can bump up even more? ie; Where can I best leverage my components in the settings for the maximum visual experience? My Pico 4 arrives today!! Thanks!

I think my GTX 1080 is not going to get anywhere near the image quality on this video with my pico 4 and flight sim. I've tried everything and the resolution is just not good enough, you cannot read the dials. Isn't it true you will need a rather powerful graphics card to achieve this image quality. Mimimum RTX 3090 I would say.

Great video as always but a question - So i need to download "steam VR" but my game was purchased from Microsoft store. will it still work please?

Great video!! Is this going to run with a 4080 super?

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Thanks a lot! In graphic setting of msfs what do you set?

Hello, Is it also possible to first start the sim, set your settings and then go to VR? My procedure now: -load SteamVR and OpenXR -Start the sim, make my settings, and start to flight. -Turn on the Pico and load Virtual Desktop/SteamVR -Switch MSFS to VR. --After that, MSFS is completely frozen!....

I’m running an AMD 6950xt Red Devil with a AMD5950x CPU and I’m hoping I’ll be able to run MSFS on the Pico. Anyone have a similar setup to mine and get it working?

A very informative video, very nice indeed. I own the Pico 4 and until now i mostly played DCS. But now i bought MFS. Question i have: why the sharpness at only say 70 percent on virtual desktop and the openxr toolkit? Is it otherwise too much strain on your system?

Pico is awesome as same as this channel

What do you use for hand tracking to manipulate the controls in the aircraft? Or do you use other controls?

Hi I have the 3090 i9 10700 32 ram I believe would you recommend the pics vr 4 or shall I stick the reverb g2?

Hi, thanks for the vid. It's useful, but am i incorrect in thinking i can get full HD clarity on my pico 4? Like you you would on a monitor. My PC specs are: 4090, ryzen 7900x, 64gb @5200mhz. I'm trying to tweak my settings, but if im honest i dont know exactly what to look for. Like i said previous, im trying to achieve HD Clarity, but unsure if thats even possible. Any further advice would be great. Thanks

I plan to buy my first VR Gogles, my PC configuration: Ryzen9 5900X, RTX3060 12GB, 64GB, Xbox Series X, Switch, Asus RT-AC86U@Merlin router. Apart from VR games - I plan to buy a HDMI grabber to stream image from consoles to goggles 1080p60Hz via PC in real time (passtrought), in the case of: 1. Xbox Series X - 1080p60Hz -> 60fps 2. Switch 1080p30Hz/60Hz -> 60fps or 30fps-> [VR gogles] frame interpolation 60fps - IS THIS possible? My main concern is not to occupy the TV, but also not to stream to the Switch screen (Sunrise -> Moonlight (homebrew) 720p) and to have a large screen with good blacks and nice colors, WITHOUT STUTTERING. It doesn't have to be super sharp and 90/120fps, but it has to be without stuttering and with WIFI. Will Pico 4 (via WIFI) + hdmi grabber setup provide it for me?

I've just got the pico 4 for msfs. I used it yesterday using the streaming app from pico and it was doing this juddery image movement even when head was still. Got it to work later without that but again today MSFS only has this juddery image movement even when in the MSFS menu screen. Maybe virtual desktop is worth the investment for this? I tried NMS and it was absolutely fine.

How’s the clarity on the horizon? I’ve had 2 attempts with this headset and couldn’t get it dialled in, found the colours a little washed out compared to the G2.

Thanks as always for the content Mark. Hoping someone can help me get my Pico 4 to work with MSFS. I have it connected to my desktop via Streaming Assistant, SteamVR is running and I can view my desktop and run MSFS in 2D mode. As soon as I switch to VR, MSFS just hangs. I'v tried resinstalling SteamVR, MS VC runtimes, OpenXR and switch VR runtime there and back in SteamVR but the issue remains. Tried XPlane 11 and it worked first time in VR so seems to be some combination between MSFS and SteamVR. Scratching my head here trying to get it to work. Can anyone advise?

The head tracking on mine has a bit of delay, only happens in MSFS, not out in SteamVR house or anything else.

I’ve tried everything for the last 6 hours to get my new Pico 4 to go into full VR mode after launching SteamVR through Virtual Desktop and all it does is show a big curved screen and that’s it. I’m fed up of the damn thing now. Also mine has the dreaded ‘wavy lends’ fault where the image is noticeably wavy when looking around, especially when there’s text involved. I’m regretting buying mine and I’m at least going to take it back to exchange it and maybe just get a refund. It doesn’t even look that great with what I have seen so far. The colours are muted and there’s a slight screen door effect and everything looks a little fuzzy. When I go back to my Samsung QN90A, it looks so colourful and vibrant and high resolution compared to this.

Hello! Thank you for review, I thinking to pass to VR. PICO4 or Quest 3... But What you think about hardware that I have: 14600KF + RTX 4070 Ti Super?

Well... bought a p4 yesterday. Nice guide. will keep my g2 for msfs 2020, since it looks much more crisp. p4 looks better then q2 and performance via VD is impressive. But how can somebody really come to the conclusion that it is better than the g2 for this game? (4090, 5800x3d, 32 gb 3600)

Aren't those bitrate settings a little low? Don't most people use 150Mbps??

Great video, I have this too, but I only have a RTX3060ti so will need to down some settings. One question how do you lock the FPS to 45?

Loving this headset for this sim..One problem I have tho as I fly the Fenix A320 and the 737 when I take the headset off there is no way to stop the headset from going into sleep mode…wish there was an option to keep headset in always on mode as I use my quest 2 link cable to keep it charged

Hey Mark. Great video. Do I need to get a version of Virtual desktop for installing on the PICO and then also purchase a version for the computer? Thank you.

No sound going through my Pico headset when plying MSFS. Using headphones but a bit of a pain.

I'm long in the tooth but can you tell me why a stand alone VR needs a 4060 GPU please?

What vr would you suggest for an amd 7800xt gpu and ryzen 9 7900x with 32gb ram

Would you recommend this over a HP Reverb G2? Keeping in my mind that I would use the pico 2 tethered using the USB? I also have a wide IPD and hate headsets such as Quest 2 with such a limited IPD adjustment.

After watching this great tutorial, I was inclined to buy the PICO 4. I hesitated between this and QUEST 2, but since I don't care about dedicated games, I decided to go this way. My R9 5900x and 4070Ti do quite well in MSFS. I only have a problem with setting the controller support when I am in the FBW320 cockpit. They are some kind visible but with no reaction on instruments.... Do you have any way to solve this problem?? I will appreciate your help!

Question about the WiFi connection for wireless streaming. My PC supports WiFi 6 and I can configure it to create a wireless Hotspot. Can this be used to bypass the router WiFi and connect 'directly' to my PC?