PID Tuning Tutorial - How to Tune Your Drone

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How to tune your PIDs start to finish.
Table of Contents:
0:00 - Introduction
0:48 - How quadcopters and PIDs work
4:48 - Settings to change in Betaflight
11:09 - High and low PID value examples
17:36 - Tuning demonstration and explanation
32:02 - Conclusion
Rates Tuning Tutorial:
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@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

By popular demand I have also made a rates explanation video! Watch it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iJ6EqbVix7-UkoE.html

@dmhans22 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir!

@kalebroberto2363 2 жыл бұрын

Instablaster

@jackbisson9226 4 жыл бұрын

Timmy I have seen LaDrib's, Skitzo's, Joshua Bardwell's, and others. This is the best I have seen out here on KZfaq. This was a great learning session for me. Thank you for sharing.

@jackbisson9226 4 жыл бұрын

A Rates tuning video would be really cool too. Again, thanks so much.

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

@@jackbisson9226 Thanks! That means a lot to me; glad I could help you learn 👍.

@Finalmile_FPV 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve gotta second that, I’ve read a lot on the PID loop and it’s functions but until I heard you describe it in relation to error accumulation and time I never really grasped the tuning process effectively. Thank you for putting into words what my brain couldn’t. That’s the clearest explanation I’ve ever heard

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

@@Finalmile_FPV Thanks!

@volkergoe 4 жыл бұрын

This is by far the best video about PID tuning I have seen so far! Thanks for taking the time and putting those packs into learn me a thing or two ;-) +1 on how you found your rates

@barraca1393 4 жыл бұрын

Never saw anybody display what the lows and highs values do with the quad like you did there, that really changed the game for me. Now I'm feeling more prepared to deal with tuning. Thank you again!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad I could help 👍

@ceziukozak Жыл бұрын

I come back to it every now and then. Best tutorial so far

@TheNadhir 4 жыл бұрын

I have no drone for tuning, but this informative tutorial I can easily understand PID and can relate to my Control Engineering subject in my university. Nice work ! 👍

@BigDFPV 3 жыл бұрын

That was the most least confusing pid tune video, thank you! Great work!

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@segpie 4 жыл бұрын

PIDs have always been a gray area for me so I never played around with them. Now, I'm much more confident because you took the 'time' to explain, demonstrate by both flying and BF adjustments. This type of tutorial was invaluable for me. Thanks so much and keep up the great work. Good job man!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@NSSdt 4 жыл бұрын

Dont forget to make a backup as a beginner! go to the CLI and tipe: " diff all " save all your setting then start your tuning ;)

@GeebusFPV 3 жыл бұрын

My only config/tune is so trash I just want to forget about it. 😂

@MonkeyUdds 4 жыл бұрын

I'm new to FPV (about 2 months of actually flying minis) and I've been searching for a while for how to tune my quad to get a better feel out of it. I've watched about a dozen videos and nothing has come close to this in terms of explaining things in terms that I can understand and have flight video to demonstrate it. I feel confident in being able to start tuning after watching this. All new pilots should watch this. Thank you so much!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@RAK402 3 жыл бұрын

I have been struggling to understand PID's for quite a while now. Your video is the first one I have seen which both explains how they work and provides an actual demonstration. Thank you for posting this sir!

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@SCFPV 4 жыл бұрын

The people that have given this video a thumbs down only did it because they still can't grasp the concept of p.i.d tuning, even when it's explained to them in layman's terms. Great job Timmy! You have successfully taught people what many here on KZfaq have tried and failed to do, and that's how to properly tune a quad, and understand the majic behind the p.i.d loop. Thank you sir, much appreciated!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@barnroof2 Жыл бұрын

Wow, after three days of study about PID, your video is the perfect conclusion. I am ready to apply this methodology to my first Quad / Speedybee F7. Great job , thanks so much.

@TimmyRC Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Deathrattler 3 жыл бұрын

So I was flying quads quite bit 2 years ago; but I had a friend's son do my PID tuning for me....so never learned to do it myself. Just getting back into flying; and I am doing more of my own setups. Thank you very much for putting this video together, Timmy............great, simple explanations of PID.

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@GeebusFPV 3 жыл бұрын

This has to be the best tuning vid!!! From visual examples to step by step tuning guide. The big plus here is we’re hearing your entire thought process, which is GOLD!!! 🙏 time to apply what I’ve learned! 😬😬😬

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@lazerfpv9598 4 жыл бұрын

Dude this has to be the best pid tuning video out there !!! You just explained everything so simply and clearly didn’t beat around the bush 👍🏻 these videos can be so confusing sometimes ! I’ve been flying for 3 years and i still struggle to get my head around pid tuning ! haha 😂 definitely worth a sub and shared👇🏻😄

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@4547-History 3 жыл бұрын

I agree and i have seen so much content out there.

@angrypepper3325 2 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t have said it better.

@tshirtfactory07 3 жыл бұрын

Timmy...im 4:36 in to the video and I already feel like you have demystified exactly what P, I & D actually are responsible for! I've been flying for about 10 months and this is the best and most concise explanation I've heard yet!!!! Thank you! You've made a fan here!!!!!

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Ice-FaceMedia 2 жыл бұрын

I'm definitely not the smartest person on earth, but for over 7 months I've been trying to fly my quad, I figured l wasn't any due to it's crazy setting, I've tried everything, but watching your videos got me from 0-60....now I feel like I've been doing this for years.....I'm definitely appreciating your video Timmy, hats off my friend 🚀

@TimmyRC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@niikpakpo01 2 жыл бұрын

I don't need to hear technical talk or see graphs at this stage of my FPV life. Thanks for putting everything into simple terms. You've definitely earned my subscription.👍🏿

@TimmyRC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@simonbeckmerhagen3546 2 жыл бұрын

I watched this 2 years ago when I started with FPV and it’s still one of the best videos explaining pid tuning. Sometimes I’ll get so lost in tuning my rates that I forget that the cause could more be my pids

@TimmyRC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@lp6525 4 жыл бұрын

That was an excellent video to watch from beginning to the end, and now I understand the PID tuning match better. Thank you for the sharing.

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Mrjasonjohn74 4 жыл бұрын

great and helpful video Timmy! really helps with understanding how PIDs work to effect the feel between the sticks and what the quad is doing. Can imagine how much work went in to do this video! Keep up the good work and sharing great content. thanks again!

@mrfarhanfpv 2 жыл бұрын

Still watching after a year… the knowledge is priceless. Simple to understand… doesnt need a rocket science explanations like “other” fpv youtubers for a topic that already complicated. Thanks bro 👏👏

@TimmyRC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@HyDroneFPV 4 жыл бұрын

I've watch the tuning videos from all the "pros" and not until I watched yours did I feel like I understood all the whats and whys and feel confident that I can get the feel I want. Thanks again!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@rumenradkov6797 4 жыл бұрын

So happy to be here. Today I just made my first real tune of my quad because of you. For so long I was like "in the middle of a desert" with tuning now I feel closer to what it looks like and what should be the behavior of a well tuned quad. Also great channel a lot to learn from. ABSOLUTELY in love of what you do! Keep it up!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@4WingView 4 жыл бұрын

You should do more for dummies videos. Like build to programing. I'm the dummy that needs these videos 😂

@joachimlarsen2k 4 жыл бұрын

I like to periodically watch these kinds of videos just to brush up on my knowledge, and as many others have pointed out this is by far *the* best one! Thank you and keep it up!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@DirtNDrone 2 жыл бұрын

Really glad I found this helpful video as I start into fpv and building my first quad and tune it myself. Very straight forward and with examples of quad characteristic on high and low PID tunes. Thanks Timmy!

@TimmyRC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@christianferreira8887 4 жыл бұрын

The best explanation with examples of the PID adjustment I have seen so far. Thanks.

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@glenmiller1437 4 жыл бұрын

Really nice job. Probably the best verbal description of PID and tuning I've come across. I think I can do this now and actually improve it.

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@dr07828 4 жыл бұрын

Wow.. This really is the best and most simple straight forward way I have ever heard this explained. Bravo!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@1tracklife252 4 жыл бұрын

Have been flying for 2 years on stock pids..because no one has explained them like you did. Took the computer out today and tuned 2 of my kwads. Game changer. Thanks bro! Keep up the good work 👍👍👍

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad I could help 👍.

@micahokeiley 3 жыл бұрын

Best PID explanation on the net so far, hands down. I've watched them all, but this has been the most insightful. Thank you for taking the time to teach us!

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@creativesymon Жыл бұрын

Utterly brilliant tutorial. I now literally know way way more than I did 30 mins ago. Thank you.

@TimmyRC Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jo3fpv532 2 жыл бұрын

damn bruh this is the first video on pids that i could actually understand.

@kdta91 4 жыл бұрын

This is the simplest explanation for PID of all. Basically P = Responsiveness I = Floatiness D = Bounce back

@mikepawson371 3 жыл бұрын

Mike Pawson "doing kind a floating stuff" Dude you flew insane! Roll flip counter yaw mix boost ten spirals inch from the tree with upside down few rolls. Yea, just little floating stuff. I really have never ever saw this kind awesome flying. And while recording and knowing millions of people will see this and not get shaky hands and nervousness. Just floating stuff.. AMAZING!

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Welcome to the world of FPV freestyle.

@mirospy 4 жыл бұрын

I have been waiting for that! Please more about quad tuning.

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

The wait is over! I hope you enjoyed 👍

@robertalbach3521 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I not only have a better understanding of the PID relationship but connected the dots on how it affects performance watching the flights between adjustments. Great Job!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@levitatedrones6362 4 жыл бұрын

Loved the video. I’ve been flying for years and was going to skip through it As a refresher but I ended up watching the whole thing and learning some new stuff. Thanks!

@thorondor1593 4 жыл бұрын

Words cannot describe how much this relieved my confusion.

@keitharoo1962 3 жыл бұрын

Well done!!! You made it more clear and easier to understand than all of the other videos I've watched combined! Thank you for the lesson. I'm not afraid to do this now.

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@holyghostwarrior 4 жыл бұрын

Very informative video, I've been flying quads for years now and I still feel like I learnt a lot, thank you. 👍

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@sunsetpark_fpv 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Timmy first off - Thank you SO MUCH for this video. I continue to return to it, stripping down all of Betaflight's advanced settings is a WONDERFUL thing, especially for me, a newbie. As I progress and get better at flying, I'll explore those advanced options like antigravity, feedforward, etc. Turning them off made me feel way more in control - it is behaving exactly how I want now. Second - I don't know what you call the move you did beginning at roughly 30:35, but it is freakin incredible, I rewound it like six hundred times and still can't explain it to myself - you have some pretty awesome skills there brother - peace!

@patrickeul 3 жыл бұрын

Loved this so much. It gave my brain the connection it needed to start to understanding tuning. I've watched a lot. Thank you.

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@two3fpv 3 жыл бұрын

As soon as I got to the part where you swapped out batteries I immediately subbed and then bookmarked this video for future reference. Nobody else has even come close to this in terms of clear and concise explanation. I have often felt that even the "pros" who have videos on tuning don't quite understand it themselves, and more less are simply saying: "look, I've played around with all of these numbers and this seems to work for me", as where your video has finally sunk in (after 3.5 yrs at this). Thanks man, off to see your rates video next!

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@tumblew33d 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent clear content. Thanks for taking the time to make this. Subbed.

@lezedits 4 жыл бұрын

Best tuning video, hands down! I've watched Bardwell's a bunch of times and it just confuses me. This i understood immediately

@rozirispandi1199 4 жыл бұрын

More pid tuning video please 👍

@karmakazefpv 4 жыл бұрын

Very helpful and nice way to demo on the process, thanks!

@JermFPV 4 жыл бұрын

Great video bud! Very well done. This is the first video I've watched about tuning that actually made sense and I've watched all the big name guys and gals explain tuning. All of their videos made me feel less secure or even scared to even trying tuning, but yours hit home with very simple explanations and great examples. Again, well done!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@TannerP97 4 жыл бұрын

Best pid tuning video I've seen, thank you for taking the time to make it!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Arvebjoe77 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation, thank you for this. I would love to see more of these kinds of videos

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ChrisFloyd 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. I just flew my maiden tonight. The nerves were out of this world. Did ok. The simulator was the trick. I'll try tuning her soon.

@sunsetpark_fpv 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this video. I really appreciate how you stripped away all the more, shall we say, "advanced Betaflight options" so that we can tune from the ground up. I was in the process of attempting this on my own, but your video was WAY better than me turning feedforward down to 25%, and limiting my throttle. :) I am new to the hobby, and am having issues that I believe are due to tuning. My quad has already shown an improvement, on the bench, that I am pretty sure will translate into actual flight. Responsiveness with props off is so much better already. Much appreciated and thank you brother.

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@theriddlerfpv1927 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the helpful pid tuning tutorial Timmy finally an easy and understandable pid tunning lesson. Big like mate.

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@AGILISFPV 4 жыл бұрын

You are a natural at explaining things clearly. Excellent video thank you for making the time to make this.

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@oBseSsIoNPC 4 жыл бұрын

Didn't fly for a year now and needed a quick refresher to make sure I am tuning my quads right, as I was doubting my memory. Thanks for taking the time to make this video, it's all I needed! Flying again! Greeting from highly restricted Alberta/Canada

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@MikeBogartRealtor 3 жыл бұрын

I’m a noob! This has been the BEST PID tuning vid covering the basics! THX!!!!

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@LosFPV 4 жыл бұрын

Glad I found this. Great break downs, I kept at it with trial and errors. Now this makes it clearer.

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ramin3321 4 жыл бұрын

I am currently in a mechanical engineering master and I have followed system and control. You explained PID greatly!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Right now I am a mechanical engineering undergraduate and I have yet to take controls 😂.

@FPVrare 4 жыл бұрын

your getting mature man Timmy i will not forget your advance trick theory 2 years ago it makes me as a good pilot now thank you. and now you have the resemblance of "PBF" Project Blue Falcon the legend your tutorial are easy to get for mostly on beginners keep it up men.

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@4547-History 3 жыл бұрын

Glad i ran across your channel. Thanks for the content. Your explanation of pids are excellent.

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@SpaceFaceFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for letting including time stamps ☺️ I always need to come back and watch a pid tuning tutorial when I make a new build 😅

@lezedits 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the breakdown! Literally no one else goes into what the each value actually does! I can finally have a proper go at tuning now

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@CaptainMavic 4 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate your efforts. I learned a lot and feel more confident on tuning now. New sub. 👍😁

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@chrisowens7470 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, awsome job, and I'll be back for more, love the way you explain things, you Inspire confidence in what you're saying.

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@PyroMatesYT 3 жыл бұрын

This video really helped me out ! You actually took my fear to tune my quad, I do now feel ready to do it. Thanx a lot man and best greetings from germany :)

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@SlavaChrome 4 жыл бұрын

Perfect explantation!!! Even me, who flies over 6 years already, learned something new! =)))

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@pikachua6449 4 жыл бұрын

Bruh this is really the video that ive been looking for. Best PID for quad tutorial. Thumbs up!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jordannovek2911 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, helped me understand better what to look for . Since Ive been flying for only 8 months Im definitely up for any videos on filters etc..... Thx and Peace

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@dronereaper772 4 жыл бұрын

You are a natural teacher, this video makes tuning a lot less scarier!!!👍😉 This was the best learning video on drones I have ever seen. So helpful that I was so engaged in watching this video I found myself call out what values that I thought would reduce the bounce back and I was calling the right PID selection to add or subtract the value from😃. You have definitely taken me to another level in this hobby thanks so much. You definitely got the thumbs up an I subscribed!!!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@LehtusBphree2flyFPV 18 күн бұрын

I absolutely love this video something that Chris rosser couldn't teach us. This is a video I'm going to watch more than once

@TimmyRC 16 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@mosephina 4 жыл бұрын

Well done...very helpful...thanks for all the work Best out there that I've seen I've subscribed

@RubyS.1 4 жыл бұрын

Probably one of the best tutorials I have USED there was another good one but it was old and bf has changed. Thanks much my dumb brother almost gets it now.

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@MusicPhotographer 3 жыл бұрын

Really good video this, perfectly explains the cause and effect to changing the PIDs Nice work dude!

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@causticfpv5857 3 жыл бұрын

Dude you are absolutely one of the best teachers I've seen on KZfaq. You've just earned a new sub here. thanks

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@joseantoniosanchez9057 Жыл бұрын

I've watched this video twice now. Gonna be tuning my Tinyhawk Freestyle 2 tomorrow. We'll see how it goes. Thanks for this vid! Very helpful!

@TimmyRC Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@MantraAerials 4 жыл бұрын

Great! Finally I understand it. Thanks for sharing.

@quadcopterchameleons9289 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Timmy rc! Best PID tutorial by far.

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@SimonCrowther1 3 жыл бұрын

This was brilliant mate. Clearly a lot of effort went into it. Thank you. Best explanation and test I've seen. Subbed. Cheers

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@RYVENANT 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, most pragmatic/practical I've seen. Most others end up delving into more of the science side of things. I like this one because its like "If you're experiencing A, its too much B. If too much C, turn down A" and it's nice to see it in action. Thanks for this man! Now all I need is a bonafide one on RPM filtering, since that seems to be more commonly used now, and I'll be good to go!

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! You don't really have to mess with RPM filtering much compared to PIDs.

@FalcoGeorge 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliantly explained. The best on youtube by far!

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@isramv74 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks for the effort! I´d love to watch more tuning videos.

@TimmyRC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@dougmckay7172 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video! I'm going to be flying my first drone that I'm interested in having a nice tune today so I'm going to use this to take some notes!

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@3more_fpv563 4 жыл бұрын

You make it so clear for me man, thanks for your effort to explain it..really apreciate it, even top fpv pilot doesnt want to explain this..you'r my mpv 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@scottemery2657 2 жыл бұрын

Timmy very good video! I'm new to the hobby, been watching lots of bardwell videos. I'm going to add you to my learning curve for sure. Thanks

@TimmyRC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@mattpatton1983 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome!! Thanks man! I haven’t done much tuning at all and I recently built an x class and this is REALLY going to help me.

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@CJRFPV 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for sharing this. personally I'm just getting into PIDs as my new lightweight freestyle build flies crappy with stock BF values, and this definitely helps me a lot to get the basics of tuning.

@homeofcreation 3 жыл бұрын

I take my hat off for you. Well done and thanks for taking the time and effort.

@TimmyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@starsstripesjacket 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video, I finally get it now :)

@TimmyRC 4 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@angrypepper3325 2 жыл бұрын

Timmy, you are the man, fantastic and very understandable explanations, I’m still quite a noob, your video on rates was the very best I’ve seen, I would have no trepidations on experimenting with the rates, but even though your tutorial on P.I.Ds is a great tutorial, I’d be too worrisome that I’d totally screw up my quad, I’m still having trouble understanding the correlation between the settings and how they react to each other, no fault in your explanation, just my 56 year old brain LOL. By the way, awesome flying, I could have watched a whole video of just your flying. Thanks and keep making videos, you have an excellent talent, you my be the J.B. of quad tutorials 👍👍.

@TimmyRC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!